>you kids and your computer crap music. REAL music is played on a guitar, not on soulless machine.
What is *the* one album/artist you would use to prove such a pleb wrong?
But he's right OP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDBM0q7L9do
Cosmogramma
Endtroducing
Richard D James album
The Man-Machine
I probably just ignore them because they most likely won't budge from their stance unless they go out looking for other music themselves.
>>65383445
He's right though, kid.
Gary..., numahhnnn
He's right. A DAW or a synth Will not provide you the same experience of a guitar. Pianos, drums and keyboards have no place in the real music industry like guitars do. You're just being a try-hard for the sake of being different...
>>65383510
>A DAW or a synth Will not provide you the same experience of a guitar
I'm pretty sure people using those things aren't trying to provide the same experience as a guitar.
>>65383492
Pleasure Principle and Telekon are legit great albums
>>65383455
>>65383474
These are the underage that post shit like this >>65383445
Hes actually right.
>>65383455
>>65383488
>>65383531
shut the fuck up nerds
yeah,
>>65383609
All that bleep bloop and video games has rotted his brain
>"It's just pushing buttons"
...........
>it's just plucking strings
>its just pressing keys
>its just blowing air into a tube
>it's just hitting a stick to a surface
>>65383522
Would a guitar player be worse at fingering women than a keyboard one?
Think.
HEARD IT BEFORE
sorry, heard it before
>>65383445
show him some nu metal
let that pleb argue that's better than the shitiest electronic
>>65383698
computers cannot display emotion. if you actually played an instrument youx understand but like all other anti instrument fags you cant but for some strange reason think you know shit
Kraftwerk - Die Mensch-Maschine
>>65383784
>computers cannot display emotion
the brain is a fucking computer
I guarantee you that if a computer generated piano music you wouldn't even be capable of telling the difference, stfu
>>65383787
This
Kraftwerk was 70s so legoodtimes men can dig them
@65383784
>computers cannot display emotion
>>65383784
yeah because you literally press "MAEK MUSIK" in your DAW, its not like you still have to program and arrange the music in it, and in 99% of genres you literally have to program it in such a way that there is swing/movement and not robotic quantizations....
>I know I know, replying to b8.....
>>65383821
you can't even reply to people properly. Go back to r/lewronggeneration underagecancer. They really are never going to be as effective or profound as an actual instrument. Though I understand a talentless kanye hack fan that cant play anything wouldn't understand. Either way. Fuck off back to your shitty board
>>65383445
Thanks Gene Simmons
>>65383784
I agree if you are on a small jazz concert at your local bar. When you're listening to a mastered, perfectly played song that you have on a CD, then what is the difference if an artist played it himself or used pre-recorded sample?
>>65383859
oh haha wow, you input certain shit and the computer digitally and flawlessly churned it out. How emotional! talentless hacks shouldn't be allowed on this board
People here are b8ing really hard
>>65383915
So here we have the liberal schlick of getting triggered. Pointing out you're triggered doesn't work anymore so now you people just hide behind irony thinking it will dismiss any opposing points.
I would start to tell him that basically computer music is basically like music based on synthesizer and sampler/tape machines, which are generally not considered by baby-boomers to be "soulless machines".
As a distinguished Frenchmen of good taste, I would tell him to listen to the aural delicacies produced by the GRM with the great minds of Xenakis, Bernard Parmegiani and François Bayle, as an example of the prototypical refined sounds you can achieve if you push the understanding of this technology far enough.
And then I would tell him that the young people of this generation, who release their pieces on the Mego record label and hang around the Cafe Oto in London, are still seeking their voices in the realm of the multitude of alternate universes expressible within this medium.
>>65383445
Op here;
Personally i'd go with portishead. I could bang Beth Gibbons for her voice anyday.
>>65383886
>you input certain shit
you mean, like in every other every instrument out there?
>the computer digitally and flawlessly churned it out
>flawlessly
nope, whatever you lack in the music dept., the computer will only amplify
>>65383915
I know right, but on the other hand, I have legitimately encountered people like that IRL
>be me, amateur "electronic music" producer
>putting together a live show for a friend's dance performance
>mix of live instruments+synth/sequencing (no computer)
>spend months working on the sound design/sequencing/triggering, then the live parts, then the live vocals etc
>my boss heard about it
>"It's not real music because its a machine"
>tell him is just an instrument like any other
>"nah its not real, like a guitar is"
>try and explain how hard was to design the melodies, the sound itself, arranging everything, etc
>"MUH COMPUTAHS"
>says the guy who plays "BABY BABY I MISS U SO MUCH" 2 chord guitar songs and can't even play live without his instructor on the rhythm guitar
old people think DAWs work like this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oGFogwcx-E
>>65384004
>All these talentless poseur artists that have zero artistic merit to anyone that actually knows music theory
Why do le computers r emotional muzak underage kids always literally expose themselves are tryhard poseurs with zero knowledge?
>>65384056
To be fair, there are tons of people who when playing "live" do just press a button and play whatever they made and people think this is how it works in the studio too. It would help people get over the "computers aren't real instruments" (or synths or whatever else) if a lot of othe mainstream dance artists didn't just play prerecorded music at their shows.
>>65384056
No, not really. Not at all actually. You input shit and it comes out without you having any effect over its physical sound alteration. And yeah it comes out flawlessly to whatever you put in
You underage fags will the end of creativity, the electronic artists worth a damn are 1/10 billion compared to the rest of shitty boring bleeps with no emotional or artistic merit behind it
>>65383976
you sure le triggurd that liberal
>>65384119
You know that with analog synths the person playing the synth has full control over the waveform of the music right? I'm not quite sure how digital synths differ from this but it's no more "press button get sound" than a guitar is "pluck string get sound".
>>65384119
whether or not you are baiting is irrelevant, you're a stupid faggot either way
Brian Eno maybe
>>65384112
>mainstream dance artists
key word there. electronic artists do play entire live shows all the time. well not EVERYTHING is live, but then, comparing a rawk show to a bleeps show is retarded. rawk is (loosely) about how tight the band plays, the musician's ability to play their instruments, etc, bleeps/electronic music, its all about sound design / mixing / improvisation. I mean, it would be retarded for a producer doing a live show to physically play a sequence on the keybiard instead of simpling triggering the loop/sequence and then he can focus on playing with the sound and whatever else. if we were to follow the same way rawk shows are, there'b be a guy non stop banging pads on a drum machine, another guy on the bass synth, another on the lead, another on the counter lead synth etc etc retarded and expensive
that's what I tried to explain to my boss and he just didn't get it. and he isn't the only one
>>65384164
Again, no not really. They input the music and the computer churns it out. Itll come out the same every single time and will remain robotic and unaffected by the musicians current mood or feelings. Objectivism is not emotional you dumb fuck
>>65384173
Haha anyone that doesnt turn a blind eye to logic to be progressive and smart like me is dumb by default oh wow
>>65383784
And neither can a guitar, or piano, or trumpet. They're all inanimate objects,you dip
>>65384357
>"Itll come out the same every single time and will remain robotic and unaffected by the musicians current mood or feelings"
>what is aftertouch
apply yourself b8man
>>65384383
Objects that habe infinite levels of subtle alterations to the sound even after the music itself is written.
Electronic will never have this.
>>65384407
This is wrong.
>>65384395
After touch is still part of the original creation process. Sorry
>>65384407
this is true
>>65384407
>"infinite levels of subtle alterations"
>what is VCO drifting
>what is analog synthesis
>>65384427
but its processed by the "computer", you gigantic retard
>>65384407
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/random
You dipshit.
>>65383445
You can't argue with idiots like that OP just ignore them.
>>65384451
>Computer chosen random number input
>>65384445
See above
>>65383784
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8A0xATTk88U
>>65384472
aftertouch is not a "random number" though, mr b8
>>65384510
actually anything that is "unscripted" in a computer is either a 0 or a 1 every time
>>65384357
anybody who uses the word logic is a fool who doesn't actually understand what they're talking about
keep baiting though le meme man
Geogaddi
>>65384567
wew lad
>>65384588
this is you
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DZ1tWsnLeQ
>>65384613
what a surprise that the calculated bleeps can be emotional too >:( faggot Is an underage redditor
Thanks for exposing yourself in reason to dismiss you
>>65384565
again, this is poor b8. the 0 and 1 are simply what the computer translates from my own input, which will vary from keystroke to keystroke
1/10 apply yourself
>>65384637
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HoCKlNsolc
>>65383445
Probably Fetch by Melt-Bananna. Blew my fucking mind when I found out there was no drummer.
>>65384565
What do you mean by "unscripted" ? It's always zeros and ones.
But when you use for example 24 of those 0 and 1 to yield 16777215 possibles values of voltage 44100 times in a second, you can generates some good sounding shit with a computer, and that will be rarely corrupted unlike analog stuff which is sensible to physical shit (e.g. temperatures, method of playback).
Ask them to stop living under a rock.
>>65383445
Don't bother trying to prove someone's tastes wrong, you'll look like an idiot.
>>65383445
>implying recording and manipulating sounds that don't come from instruments, wasn't done before computers
>>65383784
https://soundcloud.com/spookypianostuff/nocturne
I did this thing drawing notes in Cubase and changing the velocity with the mouse. It's more emotional than like 90% of the Rock I've heard.
Ultravox - Rage in Eden
Done.
>>65383445
boc
>>65383510
using this logic, might as well dismiss oranges because they taste different than steak
>>65385673
Only Black keys + A and D
You're cured now, thank me later
Go on you can play piano now
>>65383445
The only thing a pleb like this would enjoy, Tame Impala
>>65383445
Pendulum
>>65385732
huh?
>>65385755
attack and destroy
>>65385771
I don't this meme.
>>65383784
Computers can, however, emulate whatever their owners tell them to quite accurately. Computers are only vessels into which you pour your mind; that's kind of what computer programming is. Take your thoughts, pull them out of your brain, shove them into a computer, let others experience your thoughts via the computer. Same goes for electronic music. It's not that the computer needs to have any sort of attitude on its own, but rather what you put into it that allows you to really open yourself up in an authentic, organic way and let others experience it.
Or, you could use it to make dumb pop music.
It all depends on how you use it. It's a neutral medium. Just like a guitar.
>>65383784
>>65385983
>>65386012
lol the difference between how you two respond to the same thing is hilarious
>>65383445
Lorn, Aphex Twin
https://youtu.be/4l4f5-kZirg
https://youtu.be/ihyQf8mww3o
>>65383445
THIS IS THE ONLY REAL ANSWER.
>>65383529
This and Burial
>>65383445
>>65384786
>band has no drummer
>>65383445
Discovery
All of these:
>any Flume album
>any Bonobo album
><>Jungle's album Jungle (seriously fucking listen to this)
Alt-J? i actually have no idea how any of those bands above make their fucking music
also Burial and Aphex Twin and I'm sure I'm missing something
>>65383748
Piano players usually have longer fingers
>>65385720
this lmao
>all these le wrong generation faggots
lmao this is fucking sad /mu/, i didn't know i was on fucking facebook
>There are retards on this board RIGHT NOW that still think electronic music isn't real music because "MUH COMPUTERS"
take your meds, grandma.
>>65383445
Eat shit, /mu/core-fags.
>>65388208
this
If electronic music is soulless then why do I cry myself to sleep while listening to pic related lmaooooo
>>65384472
Analog synthesis isn't processed through a computer, filters and gates on a synth (that change it from a basic sin wave or whatever to an actual sound with decent timbre) is literally the equivalent of choosing the strings and having fuzz boxes or wah pedals and shit
cant believe kraftwerks hasnt been posted
>>65383510
>can't play piano or drums
>too dumb to use ableton
>thinks he can play guitar because he learned wonderwall
you're probably the faggot that tries to play guitar to your friends. I bet you have "top 10 guitar solos" favorited on youtube. fucking faggot. go listen to van halen and jerk your dick some more fuckface
>>65385673
>https://soundcloud.com/spookypianostuff/nocturne
>>65385732
>>65385755
>>65385771
>>65385790
I think hes teaching you a new key
>>65383784
(You)
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I bet you don't know what is Max/MPS you fucking kiddo.
>>65388824
A good example but probably wouldn't be a good idea if you were actually trying to prove it.
Plebs probably couldn't handle autechre, is what im trying to say.
Kraftwerk and Venetian Snares, especially pic related
