Holy shit I didn't realize the backlash was this huge
a massively hyped comeback single by a canonized group featuring two of RYM's favorite rappers and it has a 3.26 within 6 hours of being released when every release gets massively inflated ratings initially? RIP the avalanches legacy
>>65352747
3.26 isn't bad though
>every release gets massively inflated ratings initially
fair enough
>>65352768
for comparison, Radiohead's Daydreaming currently has a 3.94 and that's after a -month-
>3.26
>backlash
really not that bad, it's just not a top track i think everyone can agree on that, it's still good desu
also,
>electro swing
holy hell /mu/ really fucked that shit up
it's just a hip hop track with a polka beat and calypso samples. alternative hip hop if you have to label it
>electro swing
Its not fucking electro swing
>>65353008
Yes it is, just because theyre mu core doesnt mean they are now autists
>Plunderphonics
Just because the first album was Plunderphonics doesn't mean this is. Can anyway explain to me what makes this more Plunderphonics than any other Hip-Hop song?
>>65353008
it definitely is
like caravan palace
>>65354499
artist association, rym's guilty of it heavily
they labelled the bends as "art rock" just like they did for kid a, none of which have any indicative qualities belonging to that (pointlessly named) genre
>>65352768
>>65352823
Anything below 3.5 is not really good though and anything below 3.3 is quite bad
>>65352800
fuck they really messed up everything
>>65352747
RYM score is about as good an indicator of quality as amazon user reviews
Since I Left You is my favourite album of all time, so I was hyped as fuck for this comeback. I feel a physical lump of sadness in my chest from how painfully mediocre their new tunes are.
Perhaps it'll grow on me, but I doubt it. It's just so tacky, especially the vocals.
3/5 is an accurate rating.
>it's not electro-swing, it just happens to sound exactly like it
>>65354593
If you believe in average scores, that is
>>65355287
Exactly. People that saying that this isn't electroswing are in denial. I heard the electroswing comparisons before I listened, and also some dissenters to that, so I was doubtful. But the second that sample kicked in I just cringed. I'm glad I don't have any emotional connection to The Avalanches, because I would definitely be really disappointed right now
>>65354593
completely depends on the genre
rym is notorious for underrating everything besides rock
>>65354593
Hello, Pitchfork
Whoever posted on the video that it sounds like Fatboy Slim is 200% accurate.
This a fucking travesty.
>>65355020
>Since I Left You is my favourite album of all time
The album is decent, but holy shit you need to listen to more music.
>>65356957
this is a stupid argument
there's a difference between not listening to a lot of music and calling SILY your favorite album and listening to a lot of music and still loving it. sure, the former is much more common, but it's not like it's unheard of for someone to love something popular even if theyve heard a lot of music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjfspM5sDIA
F I F T E E N
Y E A R S
>>65356884
But Fatboy Slim is good
>>65356884
Fatboy slim>the memevalanches
JUST
>>65357273
not in his later years
>>65358789
cringe
I'm afraid to listen to it. Although, none of the songs on SILY really stand out on their own as much as they do in unison. Personally, I think Frontier Psychiatrist is the low point of the album.
>>65356837
>>65356856
>this damage control
>>65354942
RYM ratings are the most accurate ones on the internet
It's really kinda bad. DOOM is a guy who can add so much to a track, just look what Gorillaz did with him... In here he is just... there. Danny Brown is annoying as usual. idk.
>>65358650
>electro swing
haha the fucking retardation.
I'm fucking done with RYM.
HOLY SHIT HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
>>65354593
I see it like this.
>below 3.20 = bad
> 3.20 - 3.30 = average
> 3.30 - 3.40 = above average
> 3.50 - 3.60 = good
>>65359624
Okay so we are doing this on purpose now
>>65359643
This. The average score of the song should be hidden for a certain amount of time.
>>65358714
Fair
how was this made by the same people who made Since I Left You
>>65359636
On a 5 point scale, average should be 2.5
>>65359944
it isn't, though. the median of rym ratings is something around 3.5
>>65359759
This is a good idea
Doom saved the track.
Danny Brown has one of the most annoying voices I've ever fucking heard.
Not even a real Avalanches fan but anyone who's denying that this was pretty good is wrong
on this board: overreactions
This is not electroswing, the fuck is wrong with you, /mu/?
I would lying if I said that I wouldn't want the entire track to be like 3:14 - 3:36, but fucking hell I also disliked Radio and Frontier Psychiatrist on SILY at first, and usually skipped them at first. Today I love them along with rest of the album.
I would bet money with any of you shitters that the rest of Wildflower will but nothing like this.
>>65360061
I am a real avalanches fan and anyone who think's this isn't good went in for the cherry and expected it to taste like chocolate.
What did they mean by this?
s u c k s
>>65360110
94% of they think it's good.
The chorus sounds exactly like Squirrel Nut Zippers' Hell
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLYB9pvww2M
>>65360088
it is electroswing, though
prove me wrong
looking forward to getting really into something that mu hates. trolling grimes haters was getting a little old
>>65360181
Electroswing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j95HbhTl60k [Embed]
Not electroswing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m2zGncgLjw [Embed]
Guess which one Frankie Sinatra shares the same genre with.
I really really hate the video.
song is ok?
>>65359944
On RYM, since you can rate things 5 stars but not 0, the average -should be- 2.75. that is, there are 10 ratings possible, including 0.5 and 5.0. The middle two are 2.5 and 3.0.
The majority of people tend to rarely if ever use the bottom 3 or 4 ratings however.
>>65354576
What the fuck are you talking about
this whole electroswing debacle just proves /mu's/ close-mindedness over stupid shit. If you write off an entire genre then you aren't really a fan of music. That being said, the song was alright.
>>65360219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbQgXeY_zi4
I guess this must not be electroswing then
>>65352747
>electro swing
should be a 2.26 desu
>>65355468
>I'm glad I don't have any emotional connection to The Avalanches, because I would definitely be really disappointed right now
my feelings exactly
>>65360219
Frankie Sinatra has way more proeminent brass band sounds than that Gramatik song. the copy on the itunes release page goes deeper: it's calypso/klazmer influenced track. it's not hip-hop, lad
>>65359553
it literally is though. keep denying it.
>>65360219
the first track is way more similar to frankie sinatra. confirmed electroswing
>>65359759
this tbqhfam
>>65360385
It literally isn't though. Listen to electro swing. Electro swing has EDM influence, and this has none.
>>65358978
lol im guessing you dont listen to anything besides rock?
>>65360391
Bait.
>>65360361
Never did I say it was hip-hop, buddy. Also, it doesn't have to have the same instrumentation as anything Gramatik uses. It's just clearly not Electroswing.
>>65360338
If you sincerely can't here how that song you posted has swing to it, and Frankie doesn't, I can't help you.
>>65354593
Danse Manatee has a 2.4 and it's one of the best pieces of noise pop ever
Avant teens need to shut the fuck up and go back to tumblr
>>65360493
>Never did I say it was hip-hop, buddy. Also, it doesn't have to have the same instrumentation as anything Gramatik uses. It's just clearly not Electroswing.
what's it, then?
>>65360539
i think he's saying that anything below 3.5 is not good *by rym standards*. and that makes sense since 3.5 is the median score
>>65360493
I think you're talking about the "swing" part of Electroswing where everyone else isn't. So you would call it a necessity to the genre that 8th notes are swung, right? What other major/minor differences would you argue
bros...
>>65359979
not true, btw
>>65352747
none of the critics like Pet Sounds when it came out either
>>65360569
Downtempo Hip-hop :^)
it's almost like they were always a shitty pop group tailor made for shitty "summer music cd" infomercials, and the autist teens circlejerking them online were only doing so because of an unconscious feeling that they were "supposed to" like it, and without the context of the time when they were initially active said autists cannot find in their new (also bad) music what the reviewers they have parroted did in SILY.
>>65360631
Average: 3.63
Weighted Average: 3.57
Film Average: 3.21
Weighted film average: 3.22
sharifi said:
Weighted distribution for music:
0.5: 1.02%
1.0: 1.44%
1.5: 1.71%
2.0: 3.99%
2.5: 6.69%
3.0: 15.61%
3.5: 22.39%
4.0: 26.47%
4.5: 13.08%
5.0: 7.55%
Weighted distribution for film:
0.5: 2.77%
1.0: 3.80%
1.5: 4.29%
2.0: 7.71%
2.5: 10.09%
3.0: 17.61%
3.5: 19.17%
4.0: 19.46%
4.5: 9.16%
5.0: 5.93%
>>65360655
you just said it isn't hip-hop. are you retarded?
if everyone in this thread died in front of me I wouldn't blink
>>65355020
it was always tacky.
>>65360684
I said I never said it was hip-hop. Now I have.
>>65360708
it's not hip-hop
>>65360616
>It's electroswing, but without the swing!!!
k.
>>65360731
No, it's downtempo hip-hop.
Frankie Sinatra definitely sucks but I'm still 10/10 hype for Wildflower, SILY is one of my favorite albums and I just remember countless threads where we thought we'd never hear the follow-up, the follow-up is in a month and I'm hype as shit it's just a little concerning that the new single is as bad as it is
>>65360680
anon speaks the truth
>>65360764
not a genre
>>65352747
>two of RYM's favorite rappers
>Danny Brown
?
>>65360731
You could call it trip-hop, you could call downtempo hip-hop.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=whScLb0aAiM
This is also downtempo hip-hop. Notice some similar?
the autism in this thread is incredible
>>65360879
meant for >>65360795
>>65360879
lol dude, by calling it downtempo hip-hop or whatever you're totally dismissing the clear caribbean/calypso influences to the sound. it's not fucking downtempo. it's way closer to electroswing than whatever hip-hop subgenre you're trying to tie it to, though
post yfw there are people in this thread right now that will unironically listen to and enjoy captain beefheart and mr bungle but will dismiss the new avalanches as >le wacky reddit music
>>65360933
It literally isn't though. You might as well call Pink Floyd's The Wall a Metal album, since it has heavy and distorted guitars.
>>65360933
calypso isn't swing dipshit
>>65360619
lmfao
ITT: nostalgia goggles
>>65361062
>being nostalgic about a song that came out less than a fucking day ago or so
IF YOU REMEMBER WHEN FRANKIE SINATRA WAS RELEASED, YOU'RE FRIDAY WAS AWESOME!
I doubt every track is going to be some gypsy melody like this. I think its mostly the progression that ruins it for me. the rapping doesn't really fit their sound either I dont think
Reminder that RYM cannot into electronic of any form
>>65361109
Idiot. Everyone is comparing Frankie Sinatra to the songs from Since I Left You era.
>>65359636
4.00 to 3.60 = Great
3.50 to 3.40 = Good
3.30 to 3.10 = Above average
3.00 to 2.80 = Average
Below 2.80 = Bad
>>65354593
MMmmm, no most releases that get a small number of reviews hover around 3 or so. I think it's because people who review more obscure stuff tend to give lower average ratings.
>>65360684
Wew that's almost exactly like my rating scale
>>65360703
Yeah but it was fun tacky, they did a good job creating an appealing texture to their work with cleverly picked out sound clips to create little retro vignettes mixed in with modern sound and it worked.
And then they release this pile of shit.
>>65360986
contextual differences bud
it's a pretty dumb and annoying track desu
>people pretending its no electro-swing because hurrrrrrr R3ddit
pathetic
>>65354532
it sounds nothing like that, you fucking moron
>>65361443
XDDDDDDDD fast and bulbous xdddd
>>65361469
Not him but desu if someone played this for me and I didn't know who it was by I would have guessed Caravan Palaces before The Avalanches.
>>65360619
ahahahah
>>65361201
Literally no one is doing that
>>65361524
>knowing who caravan palace even is
back to le reddit
I just don't understand how they thought it was okay to release this, what was going through their head that made them think this was a good idea.
>>65361597
Of course they are, you can't listen to this in a vacuum.
I have it on good authority from certain insiders that the song they released is a joke song.
Prepare for the actual album. It is going to change music as we know it forever.
>>65361661
well yeah
there's no sound in a vacuum
>>65352768
It's actually awful considering it's the first day since it was released and was made by a well liked band. Most artists like that get over a 4.0 by then.
Expect it to go bellow 2.5 on a few months.
I wish more rym's fanbase wasn't so retarded, it seems like a decent site
>>65361808
>pretending rym and /mu/ don't have the same fanbase
>>65361796
>it's bad because rym said so
when are you going to kill yourself worst trip
>basing your tastes on a score
not saying this is what they're doing, but i think the idea is worth sharing
>album is so immensely over-hyped, there is absolutely no way they could live up to hype regardless of how good the album is
>release weak song to minimize hype
>drop album in it's full glory
>way better than lowered expectations
>>65361904
there is still hope
>>65361904
this song is not bad fuckwads
I can see it being on Since I Left You at the time and nobody would have noticed an incoherence
It's not appalling but it's not that great either. Hoping it's like a TPAB first version of I thing desu. 21 songs means there ought to be some quality
>>65361956
i never said it was bad, just said it was a weaker song
why so defensive?
>>65361956
>I can see it being on Since I Left You at the time and nobody would have noticed an incoherence
You are completely delusional
Just made it below 3.00, how long until 2.50?
>>65361878
When did I ever say so?
I said it's awful on terms of average ratings (what the poster I replied was talking about), not on the way I personally judge musical quality.
>>65362057
kill yourself
the way you judge music is just as autistic
>>65360180
i had the same thought
Hell is 10x better tho
>>65362078
Judge objectively or personally? :P
I agree it's autistic, but I'm not an autist at least
>>65361483
XDDDD missing the point xddd lel
electroswing amirite??
>>65362139
>I'm not an autist
false
>>65361956
i suspect you only listened to SILY a couple of times long time ago and dont' remember anything about how it sounds...
>>65362163
>listening to memeheart
>making fun of any music
epin
>>65362205
False
>>65362247
There is nothing wrong with Beefheart. It isn't even that inaccessible compared to stuff like Beatles' self titled
just listened and oh wow this is awful
>>65362311
exactly, it's not inaccessible at all
I can't get over how bad this new track is I just can't
>not understanding that an aggregate cannot always be used to judge the quality of a work
>thinking that an average will accurately predict how enjoyable a piece of media is
Ratings on RYM and the like are baselines, you have to look at individual reception and maybe even, god forbid, form your own opinion on something
>>65362858
Literally no one is basing their opinion on RYM averages you
>>65352747
>Calypso
My sides.
>>65358714
neither were the Avalanches
this song sucks
>>65361870
this
rym's top 100 and /mu/'s top 100 would look very similar, rym is just a fair bit more dadrockish.
>>65361201
even if you don't compare it to since i left you it's still bad
>>65352747
JUST
Remember when i by Kendrick came out and everyone hated it because muh vibes muh pop this album gonna suck and then the album version turned out to be a massive improvement?
>>65363994
i loved i (i actually liked the single version better too) but let's hope this is the case
that being said, the track isn't awful, it just has nothing good going for it besides the video lol
>>65361599
You know them enough to think they're reddit-tier, so why don't you take your own advice and go back to fucking reddit.
