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Old Thread: >>65278593
oi cunts give us a quick hand please. In the song 'I should live in salt' by the National theres this instrument that comes in over the drums and acoustic guitar and I think its a bass but it has this weird effect on it and i don't know how to describe it but you'll notice what I'm talking about. WHAT IS THE EFFECT?!?!
heres the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPIB3ojwqdg
also thinking of getting a VI bass, any pros/cons?
My bass strings have finally arrived, properly balanced tension, all within 1 pound of each other with an extra light g string. Should be interesting to see if it's worth the effort.
>>65291638
thats some type of synth, thats not a bass
>>65291542
>Daemoness
Top tier. Might be too edgy for you memers but the craftmanship is superb.
>>65291683
would a synth pedal on a fender VI be able to replicate something similar?
>>65291638
What time? Early on there's a synth but the other synthy type sound is just swells with an eBow or something.
>>65291676
If you don't like balanced tension try steadily going higher tension as you go lower and running a slight camber on the bridge.
I've tried both ways and ended up settling with that. The high string is 13lbs and my lowest is 17lbs.
>>65291691
Daemoness is top quality but the guy is definitely best known for his inlay work. I've played a couple and they are similar in feel to high end Jacksons if you want a point of reference.
>>65291683
>>65291638
Sounds like an Ebow with some kind of swell effect to me.
This is kind of close.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEjO5fgLPRM
>>65291796
Billy Sheehan does that because he bends a whole lot and drops down the e string to a d quite frequently. Seems interesting but having all string at the same tension seems to make the most sense if you stay in one tuning.
>>65291796
>that inlay
my god
what the hell is everyone's obsession with a klon? i mean it sounds alright but i don't see any reason why people are paying thousands of dollars for it
>>65291944
It's more to do with how perception is perceived. A plain steel string at 17lbs would feel awkward so progressive tension tends to feel better.
Obviously that's not really applicable to bass.
>>65292131
Yeah he does some great work.
>>65292497
TGP
Retarded hype.
It's even more retarded when you can get some of the great modern amps for the amount of cash some of them go for. For $2500 I'd rather get a Mesa head.
>>65292510
I would seriously get a custom with the /gg/ burdies inlayed if I had all the cash in the world. Not the pleb PRS ones but the real qties.
It is literally impossible to find white pickup covers for a 5 string p bass.
>>65292497
It's warm, dynamic and clear. The real klon (gold version) is the best overdrive I've ever tried, something about the copies doesn't get it 100% right.
To quote Nels Cline "“I've written about it before. It's an amp in a box. No more worries in the world of AMP DU JOUR about overdrive tone. It will always be OK. The Centaur will take care of it. Consumers: It's worth the wait to get one. I've had this thing for years now. What did I ever do without it? Let them poor boys hate, We outchea eating good yyeeerme"
Here's a clip I recorded with one a while ago.
https://clyp.it/y42dvcmp
>>65292654
the soul food sounds 90% identical to it
that 10% the klon does that the soul food does not is not worth the extra $2,000
i guess if someone is rolling in cash and wants to be picky i can sort of see how paying that much is justified. i'd get one if i had the money but i would never bring it out on gigs
>>65292654
Maybe I'm just jaded, but if no one told me I was hearing a klon, I wouldn't know, before thinking it was one I'd think it's:
Low gain pups or with the volume rolled and tone rolled a bit down, slight overdive on the amp.
Some cheap overdrive with almost no overdrive induced. Hell, a fucking blues driver.
I mean, I don't know if you're trolling with your post but the playing and tone sounds like it's chasing for that Santana at Woodstock SG loaded with P90s sound. Which is not hard to do nor worth it 2k.
>>65292733
Everyone I know that has one bought them at the original price, I agree that it's retarded to pay $2000+ for one. The soul food didn't really come as close as people say imo. At lower gain settings they're close but it's the higher gain compression that is totally different and for me that's the best sound out of the Klon.
.Too rich for my bloodI though. 'll have to make do with my lovepedal overdrives..
>>65292654
>Something about them doesn't get it 100% right
AKA, placebo effect kicks in to justify your waste of money
>>65292905
>Hell, a fucking blues driver.
i'd bet if someone put an EQ after a blues driver or a tube screamer and tuned it right, it's going to sound almost exactly like a klon
>tfw your shitty interface shits noise all over your tone
>So much noise that the amount of gating you need to cover it kills your dynamics
https://clyp.it/ughuxy2k
I'm currently saving up for one of these. From what I've heard, these things sound cool as fuck. They also don't have any standard tuning, which is very appealing.
>>65292905
It's a telecaster into a JC120 (or a Traynor 2x12 I don't remember) no overdrive on the amp at all, not touching volume or tone knob at all.
The differences between cleaner and heavier gain sounds are all controlled by picking dynamics, which is why it's such a good pedal imo.
>>65292949
Hell fucking yes, that's what EQs do after all.
I bet we can do this in a lab with lab conditions and shit, analyze the output, and the graph will be so closely matched that this meme will finally fucking fall into obscurity like tone woods finally did (or are in the process of being accepted as just feel and look and not TOAN in electric solid bodies).
>>65292990
>The differences between cleaner and heavier gain sounds are all controlled by picking dynamics
Every single overdrive? unless it's a pedal that forces clipping (aka distortion) or has a heavy compressor part, every single overdrive, the only thing it does, is boost the fucking signal that comes from the pups.
I shouldn't have studied a fucking science. Black magic drives me mad.
here's the guitar I lust over;
Fender Classic Player Jaguar HH in Olympic White
>tfw making drone metal and running 3 delays
>>65293063
>tone woods
>not TOAN in electric solid bodies
Fucking kek
ok so we've mostly established now that a klon is a meme status pedal
what other pedals are meme status? part of me wants to say a tube screamer, but i like tube screamers and still use them after all this time...
>>65293139
Boss DS-1?
Ubiquitous but it sounds like shit.
>>65293063
If I had to guess the Klon is somewhere in between an Overdrive and a Distortion, the saturation in relation to picking dynamics is really unique.
Take a look at this, is there anything that stands out from a regular overdrive?
>>65293151
I can't help but look down musicians that use these. It's a shameful bias but it's there. Like, that shit could have been a perfectly fine MXR distortion+...
>>65293151
i remember when i first tried one of those out, my friend had one and i plugged into it. even at 14 years old i couldn't fucking stand the sound. it's so dry and squeaky sounding. ugh.
>>65293154
On paper, sure.
But don't pretend it adds up to any sort of noticeable difference or uniqueness.
>>65293073
It's pretty, one of my bandmates was actually thinking of getting one eventually for studio stuff while I'm modding out a Jazzmaster for eventual studio stuff too, offsets are cool
>>65293139
A Klon, TS808, Strymon stuff, and EQD stuff are all memes. Not saying anything there is neccessarily bad but that is the general opinion I find
>>65293347
i thought the strymon timeline was supposed to be pretty good? i see it on a lot of peoples boards now
>>65293387
All Strymon stuff is amazing, all hate comes from jealous poorfags tbqh.
>>65293347
I've been playing for two and a half years on a Squier Standard Strat, and the other day I was at a music shop and decided to try a Jag and it was heavenly
the scale length was so much more fitting, the electronics on it are great, it's just all pretty
>>65291542
does that have a zero fret? What's going on here, it seems like the distance between the first fret and the nut is extremely small
>>65293139
>forgetting this legendary pedal
>>65292960
Compress to shit, reverb the fuck outta it, add layers and shit, pan, etc. And it could be nice for a glitchy, ambient album.
I had a 10 buck interface, by Beheringer, that was super noisy, I said fuck it, no more, and got myself a scarlett. DI Box to level signal and have a ground option to also avoid noise from whatever is in the chain.
Save up famaladingdong, get yourself a nice interface, they are worth it.
>>65293139
>>65293151
They can only be a meme if they legit achieve nothing extra that other pedals do for substantially less money, or if they are bought for the cool factor and nothing else.
TS and DS-1 are so cheap and work as intended, they aren't hyped to be anything they aren't (unless they are custom versions or boutique'd up).
I'd say Strymon, especially the blue and big Sky are indeed memes. Not because they aren't good, but due to the price (100 more than competition at least) but more so the fact that people bought them because of hype, and not because they are just another fucking reverb stompbox.
>>65293154
It has an IC that regulates voltage.
I fail to see any magic. It's just an easily reproduced schematic as you can see by having it there. Components are easily sourced and can be copied at home. Hence why klon clones are popular and cheap.
>>65293404
They are good, but you can pop up in reddit or any forum (including here) and there are people who still have shiny brand new ones because they just bought them because of the hype.
>>65293387
I never said they were bad, I said it's a meme, kinda like offsets, doesn't make me not like them
>>65293416
Save up and go for it
>>65293404
I agree
>>65293434
i think that's just the angle of the picture. zero frets are usually much closer than that
Whenever someone comes up with a reason for their guitar/pedal purchase that isn't just pure preference or based on FACTS I want you to remember one thing: electronics aren't magic. I can solder together a Klon clone and it'll sound exactly the same. They can't add any "secret spices" or do something crazy with it, it's electronic components soldered together by someone, that's it.
daily reminder that bass players are useless weirdos and should kill themselves for choosing such a terrible instrument
no one likes you
>>65293446
the HM-2 is definitely a meme too.
I used to have one on my boards and people would always come up and say
>LOL SWEDISH DEATH METAL. DIME UP ALL THE KNOBS BRUTHA
(I still use it every now and then because it sounds great )
>>65293491
the guy who created the pedal apparently has some super dooper secret type of capacitor which makes the klon sound the way it does
i don't know anything about electronics but i'm assuming this is mostly just bullshit
http://www.premierguitar.com/articles/20210-builder-profile-klons-bill-finnegan
the guy sounds kind of like a cunt
>>65292960
Why not just embrace the noise, do what you can to augment it, and become the next Takashi Mizutani ?
>>65293533
sorry, a diode, not a capacitor
>>65293462
>I had a 10 buck interface, by Beheringer
That's exactly what I'm using. The Scarlett Solo is what I'm saving up for, it's just frustrating to deal with in the meantime.
>>65293536
Because I am not a fag.
>>65293500
Daily reminder that I started playing 2 years ago and get gigs all the time even though I'm just mediocre. Playing a terrible instrument is kinda great.
>>65293575
no one expects bassists to be good kek
t. terrible bassist that doesnt even know notes, just tabs in semi popular band (in my state at least)
>>65293520
>>65293446
you guys like shitty distortion pedals? Fab Tone by Danelectro was the awesome for low volume shredding
>>65293446
i think we can justifiably throw the entire boss line of pedals into the meme category
they are such visually hideous pedals too
>>65293446
I have one from 15 years ago.
I stopped using it quickly, but it has seen non meme duty.
Never sold it, who'd buy one? I'd get like 5 bucks, plus I can crank it up, and rip some shitty shred solo to annoy the neighbors.
>>65293574
Is it white with an insanely bright led? fuck that interface. One of the worst purchases I've ever made.
>>65293500
Everyone begs you and treats you like a king for just being the bass of the band.
And if you pull double duty as a guitarist in your own band or somewhere else, you still get mad pussy.
>>65293632
This, my first months with the bass I gigged with a bands and I only had to play roots and fifths and I just followed the guitar.
And you only need a DI box and the bass.
>>65293533
>>65293571
>muh hand picked components!
There is variance in the production of semi conductor components, but it's ridiculous to claim that you could hear a difference in a circuit like that.
>>65293711
after reading that article i think i'm safe in assuming the "creator" of the pedal is just full of shit who doesn't really know what he's talking about, and he's taking credit for all the work those two guys from MIT did.
>>65293674
They werk and are spare change cheap.
Memes but certainly cool. Also most shit we grew up with had at least one boss running through it.
>>65293711
Exactly, otherwise we would hear them even in non "hand picked" components simply thanks to the error margin in them.
There is no reason a pedal should ever be bought for that much money.
>>65293678
>Is it white with an insanely bright led? fuck that interface. One of the worst purchases I've ever made.
Black with an insanely bright LED.
Dirty chink mofo.
>>65293763
>Memes but certainly cool. Also most shit we grew up with had at least one boss running through it.
yea true. i still have some piece of shit ancient boss delay in my closet. i think i have a boss stereo chorus in there somewhere too. i'm pretty sure the boss chorus pedal is the reason i fucking hate stereo chorus. i just get reminded of that hideous 1980s sounding piece of shit pedal.
Hey guys, how did y'all go about learning the notes of the neck? mainly for improvisation purposes. I can name the note if I think about it for a second, but it's hard for me to organically pull the notes I need for improv stuff.
Do flashcards help? considering picking some up.
thanks friends
>>65293799
SHIT, yes, the exact same shit, just differences from the year I guess.
It's such a piece of fucking shit.
See the tape? it shone even through it, what the flying fuck.
It was so noisy man, it almost made me cry like a parent with a newborn who can't shut up.
I kept it to remind myself of my failures and shortcomings in life, to strive to never be such a piece of shit myself nor fall for low quality again.
>>65293881
scales are good for that. if you keep practicing them you won't even need to think about the note names.
the easiest way to memorize the fretboard is knowing the octave shapes.
>>65293947
That's not really helpful at all but thanks. I guess. Idiot..
>>65293932
Mine is a chink knockoff, thats probably why mine's black. It doens't have the Behringer logo.
I bought mine fall of 2012. I'd been using a Digitech GNX4 for years and the sound sucked ass, and I'd just bought my first nice guitar so shit just wasn't cutting it. I grabbed the interface for cheap just so I could pirate Guitar Rig and see if it was an improvement over the Digitech.
It was, but over three years later I haven't gone through with buying a better interface. Or paying for Guitar Rig, lawl.
>>65293881
I first learned the 6th string, because root notes, and only whole notes, since you can know b and # from there.
After that I learned the 5th, same way.
After that someone recommended me to learn all the notes in all the strings but only up to the 5th fret (because it repeats after that in the following string).
In the end what motivated and didn't feel like a chore was a mix of doing scales and knowing the notes I was playing and saying them in my head, the roots of chords, and so on until it stuck. I could play the scales slowly but nicely, while still thinking of the notes, after that you just know them and that's it.
>>65293752
>>65293763
>Without the buffer there is a very noticeable degradation of the signal due to the capacitance inherent in guitar cables
AHAHAHAHAHA! Damn right he's full of shit, maybe he's a bat and his guitar produces ultrasonic overtones, Jesus fucking Christ. I encourage every musician to learn very basic electronics, you'd be amazed how ridiculous some of this shit is with a tiny bit of extra knowledge.
>>65293996
..... says the person who needs flash cards to remember 12 notes in different positions
>>65294026
Are you saying there isn't tone loss in using a super long cable?
If you have a pedalboard full off true bypass pedals you WILL lose a lot of high end vs plugging straight into the amp.
>>65294033
Wow fuck you
Fucking troll
Someone answer my question SERIOUSLY please >>65293881
>>65293151
honestly, if a DS-1 sounds like shit it's because YOU sound like shit
>>65294089
Kill yourself.
>>65294012
>I grabbed the interface for cheap just so I could pirate Guitar Rig and see if it was an improvement over the Digitech.
>It was, but over three years later I haven't gone through with buying a better interface. Or paying for Guitar Rig, lawl.
My sides, exactly the same.
Now I have a scarlett 2i2, but still use pirated guitar rig. Do it bro, may clean line signals come to you.
low/medium action or high action
>>65294062
Coax cables act as low pass filters, correct. But he's talking about a single pedal, the few extra meters of cable you use to connect it to the amp make no difference whatsoever. This is the same bullshit that people claim sometimes, "I can hear the difference between a 3m and a 9m cable". The cut off frequency for that filter is in the realms of ultrasonic frequencies, there is no difference.
>>65294089
>Wow fuck you
yess yesss let the hate flow
>>65294129
Wtf. I come here for a little help and this is what happens? Come on guys. Why are you being mean for no reason
>>65294062
This is why I plug a metal zone (turned off) in the chain. Acts as signal strength "keeper" and it makes gear heads uncomfortable seeing my pedal in a live situation... always expecting me to jump into it and see what I do in the song with it.
>>65294135
After years it's like whatever man, as long as it doesn't make my hand bleed when doing a super hard chord or I can sweep pick the panties of moms around the world without problem, it's alright.
>>65294207
Troll or not, you got two legit answers.
>>65294014
This was actually very helpful! Thank you!
>>65294158
Ok that guy is a big time corksniffer.
>>65294135
medium to lower medium. low action is for shredders that play very very lightly, you lose some dynamics if you have low action because you can't really dig into a note, it will just be buzzed out to shit
>>65293520
>the HM-2 is definitely a meme too.
Not really. If you max everything it'll sound terrible. It can sound great if you actually tweak it a bit.
https://clyp.it/latko352
>>65294135
For good all-purose action, the trick is to set the string at the height where when you bend up from the string below it your finger pushes the string rather than sliding below or (worse) above it.
Basically, when you fret a note, the distance from the center of your finger to the fretboard is the height you want.
>>65293881
Flash cards? Please.
>>65294014
This is a pretty good approach, especially the part about mixing scales and saying notes in your head.
Don't stress about it too much unless your teacher is Joe Satriani (who Steve Vai said once cancelled a lesson on the spot because Vai took longer than two seconds to identify a note at random on the fretboard). A lot of ridiculously talented players can't name notes immediately (watch a Paul Gilbert instructional video if you don't believe me). Scales are great because they'll help you create different moods throughout your improvisations. Once you can move through multiple scales starting from different roots around the neck, start thinking about fucking around with intervals within each scale for more interesting phrases (for example, playing major sixths and sevenths over the minor is a great way to make differentiate your phrasing and play cool, unexpected lines). Then you'll start thinking about specific notes more organically as you play.
I really think knowing intervals is the most important element of improvisation, though. When I'm improvising I'm thinking less about the specific notes I'm playing and more about the tensions and resolutions created by moving up a half-step for a bar before going back into the key, or going from a minor arpeggio to a diminished lick, or adding a major sixth to a pentatonic run, etc.
>>65294299
Calling things a meme is a meme nowadays. Don't take it seriously
it's probably best to ignore it entirely until the kids move on to the next cool meme
>>65294089
>>65294207
>>65293881
you are a child
>>65294503
this
you got good advice, and you complained about it because you're too dumb to understand it
fuck off
>>65294364
>I really think knowing intervals is the most important element of improvisation
Exactly
Scales are just known/common sets of intervals with certain harmonic qualities.
But this is why scales are cool, they "tell" you how intervals sound and behave.
Like how the blues scale has that tritone right in there for the root? and that's what makes it sound either evil or deep or soulful.
This is why players that have "discovered" scales like to tell others to practice scales, but for some reason those who don't are always sort of afraid of scales.
>>65294503
>>65294550
Yfw i wasn't even the guy that asked the question
Yfw he hasn't posted anything except the question
>Mfw his face when yfw you got tricked
Yet again i have deceived and outsmarted you dimwitted buffoons
>>65294461
>nowadays
>>65294706
nice lol
>>65294729
nowadays and the last year
>>65294706
what kind of faggot trolls a /gg/ thread
you have the entire rest of this shit board to do that
>>65294706
Nice dude, heres your (You). Now off the the next thread!
>>65294135
how about j mascis action
>>65294838
What gauge? depending on it, it might not be so bad if you like to plant chords hard or work above the 5th fret mostly.
i have accended to the realm of 8 strings
wanna get a multiscale soon but this is what i have. agile septor 827 rn cp cf, passive pickups great for clean and djent alike,string .9 - .80, forced to use 9s cause of the 27 inch scale length.
>>65294899
>no whammy bar
What are you going to do, just MAKE VIBRATO with your FINGERS?
>>65294899
That's the most retarded thing I've ever seen.
>>65294896
He just uses 10-46
>>65294995
why? it extends your range. just look how this guy uses it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O46v33hpx4Q
>>65294838
>>65295030
I legit have never heard J Mascis even though his guitar is famous now. I expected something completely different.
>>65294941
dont need one for the music i play.
>>65295048
>why?
Because (judging from that clip) the most retarded thing I've ever seen makes the most retarded music I've ever heard.
Seven strings I can understand. Eight? Play a fucking bass.
>>65295134
get out of the mind set that instruments cant be modified. the low bass can make chords sound full and huge.
look at this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiERPVIEvSc
>>65295050
what exactly did you expect?
he's one of my favorites
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J37765jkAyo
>>65295221
So basically it's for losers who don't have a bass player to jam with. OK.
>>65295134
also they alow you to play basslines and melodies at the same time.
>>65295267
view it how you want but they are useful in their own ways.
>>65295232
It's super cool, well executed, I expected something either lame or shoegazy.
Really cool, I also liked his solo acoustic work.
>>65295221
at least its not a 9 or 10 string ( please kill me)
>>65295221
>Rob Scallon
I don't believe you "two" posters aren't one troll fucking up the thread. This is too cliche of a conversation.
Anyone have any experience with Chapman guitars? Thinking about picking up an ML-1. Seems like a pretty good axe for a guitar in the $500 range.
>>65295421
I'd just buy an RG421 or S521 which are cheaper and have that mahogany body and look.
Also I'd never support anyone who starts videos with
>GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEETINKS
/mmg/?
>>65295486
I'm kind of considering an RG but I prefer 22 frets and like that the Chapman has a vintage style trem. Not really a fan of locking trems.
>>65295574
The RG421 is stoptail, which is why I like it actually.
That said, the chapman is more classic strat configured and in looks, so it's easier on the eyes too.
>>65295367
Ah I see, glad you digged it. His solo work is pretty good. Amazing he still lays on the fuzz live on his acoustic stuff but of course not that surprising. I havent listened to JM + The Fog yet tho but apparently its mostly just like mid/late 90s dino jr anyways. This song live is really some of his best stuff imo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGDtxuvfWKA
>>65295622
I happened to try out this special run Guitar Center has, same sort of setup but comes with the EMG 57/66 set. Felt really good but I find it difficult to get used to such a thin neck.
>>65295664
Yeah, I'll probably dedicate this week to checking out his stuff and learning songs because they sound fun af to play and sing along.
>>65295831
yeah their songs are really fun to play. the lung is prolly the most fun imo
>>65295232
Sound like October All Over
>>65295916
huh that does sound incredibly similar
>>65294299
>If you max everything it'll sound terrible.
Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Vbi0DA7j18
How is she keeping the harmonica on her guitar? Is there some sort of rig or is she just good at balancing shit?
Gonna need to post some 7ender to purify the thread.
>>65296589
looks like she's balancing it
The rigs aren't very expensive, so I don't know why
Some porn
>>65296827
That's one hell of a balancing act, then. I thought she somehow taped/rigged it to her guitar. Is there such a way to rig it to your guitar, or are you referring to the ones that go around your neck?
Hmm, Daddario single strings don't come vacuum sealed. That's a bummer, thankfully I only ordered 2 "sets" at once. Also, I underestimated the thickness of a .135 string, pretty sure I could use it to tow a small car or as an elevator cable. But I'm sure it's just something to get used to (just like paying 10 bucks for a single string, that also takes some getting used to).
>>65296613
>7ender
The memes never stop.
>>65296978
If you look at it it tilts at one point or another
I was talking about the neck rigs too. That'd be much more convenient than on the guitar
>>65296827
>>65296978
Yeah, nevermind all that. She gets up at the end of the video and the harmonica doesn't move. How?
>>65296922
wow dank guitar and dope dubs
>>65297099
it's impossible to stop noticing them now
on-topic, tho, I kind of want an abomination like this so that I can piss off people who hate fun
good morning, everyone.
i've been asked to perform a song with a little girl for an event, but i struggle to come up with a song we can cover. i'm on guitar, she sings.
does anyone know about a simple acoustic song that is relatively short and easy to sing and play?
so far we've tried All of Me by John Legend, but she thinks the lyrics are too long to remember.
>>65297317
Maybe that's stupid, but Disney songs? Like, she probably knows the lyrics to a bunch of them already, they're usually good songs and shouldn't be too hard to cover on an acoustic.
>>65297317
Knocking on Heaven's Door
>>65297317
We're Going To Be Friends by The White Stripes is a nice song.
Something by Norah Jones would be good too, like Come Away With Me, or Sunrise. They're easy to play and the lyrics are quite simple.
>>65297382
i really liked Sunrise. it's going to be a nightmare to convince her to listen to it too, since she has such shitty taste in music, but i'll definately try that song.
>>65297353
good suggestion. i haven't seen any disney movies since the early '00s. but i'll check some songs out.
>>65297196
That finish isn't natural enough.
If it's not a matte natural wood finish you're doing something wrong. Maybe you could ask them to carve the edges to get one of those exaggerated reveal bindings that that one meme guitar has.
Also the pickguard needs to be a way stupider in colour. Black doesn't show your random and unique edge that you bring to your music.
Also that guitar would look way better in multiscale desu senpai
https://reverb.com/item/1715863-way-huge-aqua-puss-delay-tone-bakery-creme-brulee-pedal-combo
Is this a good deal? Or is there better alternatives like a Behringer VD400 or a Fulltone OCD Chinese clone?
how do you guys shop for used guitars?
i have recently decided that i want used gear, and i'm doing okay at it. but sometimes i miss little things when i'm in the shop- the biggest mistake was that there was a considerable amount of fret buzz at the first 4 frets on a mim tele i bought recently. it's okay because i leveled the frets in no time but still i feel like an idiot
how do you guys check everything under the anxiety-riddled moments of shopping with a salesperson hovering over you? what's the quickest/ best way?
>>65292654
Wtf? My Sparrow is a weak fuzz suitable for nice garage rock and if I roll the fuzz down and raise the volume It sounds like this
>>65297847
don't buy behringer, super low quality components and qc. even at the price point
>>65297883
I go to Buyee.com, pick out a guitar I like and bid on it.
>>65293139
Boss Slow Gear, Foxxtone Fuzz, Moserite Fuzzrite, Univox Fuzz (debatable), Expandora Fuzz, JHs MUDDID, Strymon, Zvex certain models, those super boutique $2,000-$5,000 delay, tremolos and reverbs (I know Zvex had one powered by a candle, CME eats those up there was a replicator delay made out of a shitton of old wood and gears same with a demo they had recently about a tremolo from Denmark
when do you feel like youre playing your best
>>65298001
completely sober, no injuries, after a day off of work, when it's warm outside, and i haven't played in a few days
almost never happens
>>65297317
Adventure time theme song
>>65297891
Really I can get them new for $25, I saw Charlie Moonheart use one live with his music man combo and a 70s Mustang and I loved the time from it
>>65292588
>great modern amps
I like the way you think.
Is a new Jackson pro series king V for €450 a good deal if you're a faggot who likes metal?
>2016
>buying pedals when you don't even record or play live
I thought this was /Guitar General/, not /Gearfag General/
>>65298001
>>65298035
i pretty much feel like im playing my best whenever im about pretty frustrated with my own guitar playing and just things in general but that's probably not the best way to have that feeling
>>65298001
When the backing track is super inspiring. Very rarely happens, and I'm too lazy to make my own backing track, and I'm too much of a loser to get in a band.
What's the bare minimum I should spend on a used acoustic guitar just so I can learn my way around the instrument?
>>65298466
really depends. i own 10 guitars and i bought a nylon string classical from a pawn shop for $40 and it plays as nice as my $400 acoustic imo.
buying a guitar is mostly luck, but make sure you play it first and everything checks out
Does /gg/ know how to read sheet music?
It's good for you and you are one step closer to being a session musician.
>>65298466
Just buy a cheap electric guitar (Epiphone/Squier, or a used Gibson/Fender) and then you'll have something you can gig with until you can afford a nicer guitar (and even then you can use it as a backup).
You don't need an amp to learn on an electric guitar, and your neighbors will thank you for not going acoustic.
whats a good "first song" to learn?
do you long time players still remember your first song?
>>65298740
ACDC - Back in Black
>>65298740
I can't be certain but it might be The Church - One Day.
I just played the rhythm parts to the song, very simple and it helps to given a good idea of how chords can be used to 'garnish' what the lead guitar is playing.
>>65298740
I remember the first riff I learned. NIB by Black Sabbath. I could only play the power chords part, couldn't manage the little pull off licks at the end.
>>65298740
i don't remember exactly, i know i started just strumming g chords and switching from g-c and then from c-d and so forth for like a week. if i had to guess i'd say needle in the hay by elliott smith, but that was after i spend a few weeks dinking around just strumming chords
>>65298740
good firsts are whatever is easy enough for you to pull off but is also a song you like.
Mine was breaking the law - judas priest
>>65298740
Highway to hell was the first song I learned.
>>65298740
Mine was ITAOTS
>>65293154
To be fair, it's a totally different design from most overdrive/distortions out there.
>>65294133
is the 2i2 good at keeping signals noise free? I'm looking at getting one used on craigslist then flipping my behringer mixer to compensate. that thing was noisy as fuck whenever I loaded up BIAS
Is it worth using a pick with a classical?
I'm poor atm and I don't have a proper guitar with metal strings, but wan't to learn how to play with a pick
>>65298740
Кинo - Пaчкa cигapeт
:^)
>>65298972
If you use a light touch and thin pick, sure.
>>65298983
Man I fucking love Kino. Can't imagine that as a first song though, with that beautiful intro and all. Especially when you have to play the bass line as well.
>>65298972
why not?
>>65298972
>>65298972
>classical
>pick
>metal strings
>>65298740
Don't remember first song, remember first electric guitar song though.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ4_u4lRYUU
hehe
>>65299140
Don't get me wrong,
I was wondering if I could play nylon strings with a pick, because I don't have a guitar with metal strings
>>65299229
yes you can. Why wouldn't you?
>>65299271
I'm a newfag and I have never used a pick in my life??
>>65299293
You don't need picks
>>65299293
i thought classical guitar was strictly fingers only.
>>65298972
a-are you me?
>>65299293
you don't really need one but it just takes some practice like everything else.
hey /m/ates.
I need advice on what to buy :/ I've been playing my yamaha pacifica 112v for about 3 years now, and now i can finally afford something better. Im looking for something that is super comfortable to play, especially neck wise, cuz im fucking clumsy with my fingers n shit. I was thinking about a fender jaguar or something, they look nice, what other choices are there? Telecaster looks cool, but sounds too bright for me, i guess.
>>65299435
>git fender strat
>git gud
>>65299435
Go into a shop and try everything. The way you handle your neck isn't universal, we can't know for sure what you'll like better.
And I really mean try everything, regardless of looks. I hate the retarded inlays and gaudy finishes of Schecters, but they play great, especially the newer models with thin necks.
Worry about pickup config and electronics later, most companies offer enough variety to cover anything you want.
>>65299435
What's the upper limit, Fender American Elite series are fantastic.
Guess I'll have to go into a guitar shop :/ those awkward fucking places, I feel this shitty energy when i go inside one for some reason, but oh well .
>>65299515
I was thinking around £1,000 should be enough for a decent guitar, these Elite toys are around £1,400 I see.
I guess what I want the guitar to be is lightweight, and have low string action, buzz-free though of course.
>>65299525
that just means you're a fucking pussy afraid of being judged by either your taste or your playing
I guess so...
>>65298740
kino - cuckoo
>>65298614
I can read bass clef decently but it takes some time before I find the right positioning on the neck.
I really hate this shit though. That's what you get for playing with a horn section.
>>65299770
Oh god why.
And why two flat on the G(?) instead of a doubleflat ?
>>65299816
One is the key signature, the other is an accidental.
Either way there is no context to that, that anon is just being a baby desu.
>>65299847
Oh right.
Babies are people who complain about sheet music being too hard to understand or thinking theory limits creativity.
>>65297317
Hallelujah
>>65299379
It's retarded to use a pick on one unless, like that guy, you are literally too poor to have an alternative to practice picking on but that doesn't mean it's not possible or anything.
I don't plan to perform foor other people just play songs for myself.
what type of guitar can i get that will last long and wont break the bank, but allow me to play music like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waY8jaL-3Es [Embed]
>>65300030
>what type of guitar
An acoustic one.
You can play that expensive guitar you bought, right?
You aren't just buying gear and telling yourself you'll learn one day, are you?
>>65300038
steel or nylon strings?
also, I dont want to have to tune it every 10min
>>65300030
Seagull is pretty good, and very reasonably priced.
>>65300097
Probably steel seeing as that's what the guy in the video is using.
>I dont want to have to tune it every 10min
Electronic tuners are a wonderful thing anon but why are you even concerned? It's not as if you'll have to tune any guitar that regularly.
>>65300150
The last guitar I bought went out of tune ever 5-10min of playing. It was horrible but it was cheap.
>>65300183
In that case the main piece of advice I can give you is don't buy a guitar that is literally broken. I can guarantee that that simple trick will prevent such a problem.
>>65293073
I had a japanese hardtail version of this. they play alright but I found the extra roller knobs to be more for show than practical use. Also the body is bigger than I thought from seeing pictures online.
>>65298614
i played trumpet and baritone horn in school. i'm rusty as hell on it because i rarely practice reading sheet music though. so i can read music, sort of, but reading music for guitar is kind of fucked up because you can play the same thing in different positions. i think ultimately the best way to write out music for guitar is putting both tabs and regular sheet music together, so you get the rhythmic notation and an easy way to understand how/where it's meant to be played
>>65300351
>but reading music for guitar is kind of fucked up because you can play the same thing in different positions
This is my main problem with it. How the fuck do professionals who can sightread pretty much anything do it?
>>65298307
It's definitely not /whiny bitch general/, so shut the hell up.
>>65300368
years and years of experience
they probably run through every possible variation in every possible position and pick which one suits them the best
>>65298740
Intro riff to smoke on the water i thought was what everyone learned first.
First all the way through was nirvana - lithium. Nirvana songs are like guitar kindergarten.
>>65300368
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiAbqfaYGwk
that reminds me of this. segovia chewed one of his students out for changing segovia's fingerings. i used to think segovia was just being a cunt, but when you look past his cuntness, he's kind of right. the thickness of the strings change how a note sounds, middle C on the B string sounds different than middle C on the G string
>>65299585
I think the only people that don't feel that way have only been playing for a few months, or one of those faggots who's parents always told them everything they were the greatest thing on earth.
>>65300083
Who actually does this?
>>65300674
A shit ton of people. I'd wager around half the anons with expensive as shit guitars, amps, and pedalboards are actually really sloppy mediocre players
>>65300608
i've been playing for like 17 years and i absolutely hate trying stuff out in music stores. the people working there are almost always judgmental assholes who think they are the end all be all of taste and knowledge. i always leave music stores with a bad taste in my mouth. there's just something about that job that turns people into douchebags.
>>65297891
>people still lumping all behringer products together
I have never seen anyone on a forum ever complain about the quality of a behringer vintage time machine. What I have seen, is a majority of people preferring them to memory man in blind tests.
Behringer is a company that makes some shit but you can easily see all over the internet that they have some seriously good equipment among the shit. I have no idea why people get pissy over them when at their worst it's still hard to complain for their price.
Literally every budget company makes something utter crap, yet they get the kind of treatment fender or something would get. "Wow, my opinion's changed, I really don't don't respect behringer anymore." Are you kidding me? Take a moment to consider the overall shittiness of vintage gear that's held up on a pedastal because of some of the great tones they yielded.
>>65300674
>>65300735
i hate to say it, but my dad is like this. he has way too much money and keeps buying expensive vintage guitar stuff that he doesn't use, and i can't/don't want to use it either because it's usually old crap that's too valuable or too fucked up to do anything with other than look at.
he just bought 2 old peavey amps because the guy from lynyrd skynyrd has them....
>>65300674
A guy I used to work with bought an old Ovation Ultra GP for like $2000 dollars and then hung it up in his studio.
He played keyboard.
Guys, i'm wondering something.
How does Jeff Mangum get his sound on his acoustic guitars, they seem to have a really special sound like the strings are fat and slow or something.
I just really love the sound and wonder how to replicate it.
>>65299581
These features are a question of good fret work. You should go have your pacifica leveled and dressed, and set up. When this is done it'll play as well as any guitar at any price, ignoring personal preference involving things like neck profile.
Paying lots of money for playability doesn't make a whole ton of sense. Paying lots for a guitar with a good stock tone instead of buying pickups doesn't make a whole on of sense either. If you want to get a nice guitar just so you can feel like you have a nice thing, go ahead. Just be aware that it's mostly for the sake of that feeling.
>>65300847
Condenser microphone being recorded onto tape most likely.
>>65300739
Dude you're playing guitar, you are going to play in front of audience, and you're always going to find at least one judgmental cunt, no matter what you do, stop caring so much about what a handful of person working in a store will think. They don't mean shit.
>>65300847
You've been asking this question for three thread I think it's time for you to start using google
>>65300847
again?
>>65300739
They were douche bags before they got the job. It's like it's a job requirement. I'm lucky I'm in a small market, the shop here is family owned and cool as all hell, no pressure sales, get whatever you want, have a pretty large inventory, great prices, and let you play all day if you want. The one time I went to a GC, I couldn't wait to get the fuck out.
>>65300888
>Dude you're playing guitar, you are going to play in front of audience, and you're always going to find at least one judgmental cunt, no matter what you do, stop caring so much about what a handful of person working in a store will think. They don't mean shit.
the thing is i do play live, i've been gigging around for a while and i (mostly) have fun doing it
>>65300735
I bought an expensive guitar because I knew after trying it out that I wouldn't be as happy with anything else. I'm bad but so what? I enjoy what I do. What else would I spend the money on that would be as worth it? I'd much rather spend the money I'd saved up on a nice guitar then have it slowly whittled away by transient pleasures like coffee.
>>65300888
Wait what, i don't think i have. I'm actually quite sure i have and why wouldn't i have googled it already?
I didn't get an answer and i thought you guys would be knowledgeable on this stuff, I'm sorry if i'm annoying you but i'm just wondering
I'm also not asking about the sound on the record but the general sound when he plays acoustic live too.
>>65293154
klons are weird.
I had a klone and built one too
I thought the overdrive in it was probably the worst sounding overdrive I've ever played, it was super mid range honky and stiff feeling. But if you put that way down and put the volume way up it make everything feel much more dynamic.
It'd be interesting if anyone could take that volume boosting/dynamic aspect of the klon and tack it into something like a fuzz and get rid of the horrid overdrive.
>>65293674
retard
Boss pedals are awesome.
Affordable, available everywhere, sound awesome, built like a brick shithouse, no TGP corksniffing gayness
>>65301009
>Boss pedals are awesome.
>>65300994
maybe the pedal just didn't work with your amp well? that seems like the opposite of how the klon is supposed to sound
>>65298740
I think my first song was Susie Q by CCR, at least the main riff
maybe something by the Who, Substitute maybe
my scarlett solo focusrite interface keeps making my pc crash. doesn't even show a blue screen, it just turns off and back on. i've always had trouble with it but now i'm literally back to using my webcam mic. should i just buy a recording mic from best buy? i have the most up-to-date official drivers and its still shit. also the focusrite website has "click here to remove virus!!!" ads so i'm starting to think they just have shit drivers
>>65301009
yeah what is this fool talking about Boss pedals are great, sure the modeling stuff and most of their distortion and overdrive pedals are shit but there's a lot of very nice effects they made
>>65301083
>chorus pedal
did i just go back in time to the 1980s?
>>65301009
You can't expect the boutiquefags to see the truth, anon.
>>65301060
This is the main way of using Klons, crank the volume, put the gain way down. The gain sucks.
I'm in the market for a distortion pedal. I play mostly noise rock, drone metal, shoegaze, etc. Loud stuff with lots of texture and sonic presence. Currently im running a big muff which i love but it's hard to dial in a sharp edge on the high end while preserving it's low growl. So i borrowed a ds-1 from a friend and started running it into the big muff. It's a little closer to the sound im trying to achieve but also seems to make my signal sound a little hollow when i turn it on.
So I'm looking for recs. Preferably $130 max but I'm willing to shop used or save up for a couple weeks if anything really grabs my attention
>>65300943
I'm in the same position except that I have chops but not good enough musicality and basic theory knowledge, it's something I'm working on.
I got way more motivated to play after I bought really good guitars. The mindset is between 'fuck, this is a dream to play, I love it' and 'this is a great instrument, I must get good enough to do it justice'.
>>65301098
angry charlie or a pro cat rat
i just bought an angry charlie and it's honestly the exact type of distortion i've been looking for my entire life.
>>65301089
>he doesn't use chorus
damn what a pussy
>>65301089
Please be nice to the 80s.
I can't decide to spend 350 on a used AC10 or just find one of these for like 50 bucks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJZUU_ZJHzc
You think it sounds pretty spot on for a cranked vox at 3:30
>>65300735
I consider myself a good guitar player but I don't think I do my guitars justice as primarily a cello player (pic related). That being said, after spending years searching for an electric I enjoyed, I spent a fair bit of money to secure two late model Wolfs. No neck has ever come close to it.
>>65301130
the 1980s must be erased from history
>>65301139
Please take that back!
>>65301098
try running your tube screamer into the big muff, it and fuck around with the knobs. it will clean up the bottom end and make the top end a bit more clear. david gilmour does something similar.
>>65295664
Speaking of Dinosaur Jr, what's the best way to just get the crazy distorted sounds that he triggers halfway through some of the songs off of their second and third albums?
I guess I'll link exact timecodes of what I mean
https://youtu.be/fnaMpzgHMn8?t=184
https://youtu.be/B6YiJSBWdu0?list=PLFgtLCsn09X0ncjGYYy8ccYmmvfGVosDg&t=162
I assume it's just an additional overdrive or distortion after a big muff but I've been having a hard time emulating that specific sound
>>65300083
I can play that 2000€ bass I own, I'm just not very good at it.
>>65301213
or I suppose it could also just be a wah after the big muff like usual except he just has it open all the way and doesn't modulate it at all? damn, that might just be it I answered my own question
>>65301009
They'd like them if they were $100 more, and had a bird on them. And their friends said they were cool.
What's worse - untalented gearfags insecure about their playing inadequacies or talented poorfags insecure about their cheap gear?
>>65301213
that kind of sounds like a phaser going into 3 different distortion pedals
it also kind of sounds like he's making the spring reverb in his amp move around. if you move an amp around that has a spring reverb it makes that springy weird sound
>>65301242
Poorfags definitely. They're always so bitter about Gibson, Strymon etc..
