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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pa0a5WYTB9g
Oh hey look this is the third song off of the new album that's in the key of D.
Last album half the tracklist was in D.
I wonder if Gira's just completely fucking given up
this song is about his wife getting raped or something right? i commend her for it. and she has a nice voice.
its a fuckin A+ song
It's shit
(didn't listen btw)
>>65202053
but do you like the song?
>>65202073
It's completely mediocre.
This album's gonna get so fucking panned by P4k.
Same fucking shit as TBK
>>65202106
feeling like a 7, this is going to be the point where they demarcate from swans.
pfork want to cultivate a pop aesthetic
>>65202038
Boring af desu
>>65202161
No, it'll be panned because it's just the same shit. Not because of any bias you're imagining.
bretty gud. i wish that second half was longer cause its super good.
>>65202161
p4k is gonna pan it to hell and back cause of the rape stuff
>>65202176
oy vey good goy
at pitchfork we only pick the highest quality records
I like it. Its strange for them to release a song thats not very representative of what they're mainly known for but they probably couldnt release some 25min banger.
>>65202038
i liked it a lot actually, but i think the song's theme will not go very well after the recent accusations of rape.
and p4k will pan it for feminist cred
>>65202264
thats true but I am glad Gira didnt cut it. I like it a lot on The Gate back in autumn
Do you guys actually care about the score some nu-male music website is going to give to an album?
lmaoing @ ur lives
>>65202327
yeah, he was right no to cut it, years from now nobody will remember these accusations and the album will still be here
i always download the live fundraiser albums but i only listen to them after the studio album is out
>>65202053
>still this butthurt about getting wrecked in that other topic
rape
>>65202542
How did I get rekt? Go on, tell me.
>>65202600
>all this denial
>>65202053
But anon, its in B triple Sharp.
>>65202717
kek
>>65202677
Nice explanation.
so this is the first song on the album yea ? if so, that's a mighty fine start.
>>65202748
nah I think its somewhere on the second disc... first track is one of the two "Clouds"
>>65202781
hm . I'm interested to see how the album flows.
>>65202823
you can check 30s excerpts here
https://www.amazon.com/Glowing-Man-Swans/dp/B01E0ZPC7Q
they're mostly pretty useless because they usually fall into some transition part of the longer songs, but the People Like Us and Finally Peace ones are ok
>>65202739
Nice delusion.
>>65202870
Fuck that sounds awesome. "The world looks red" sounds quite beautiful actually.
>>65202053
what is the point of this post?
I enjoyed that
Hyped af
>>65202176
> depression cherry: 9,3
ok anon
Is jarboe dead? I loved her stuff, even her solo albums but I can't find what happened to her
>>65205064
She's performing in Australia in a month.
>>65202870
AAAaaahhhh Man these excerpts are good but I just can't the overall feeling of the whole song.
But it's probably gonna be a lot calmer than TBK i guess.
Do people still care about the Larkin stuff? The only place I ever see it mentioned is here
>>65205064
Gira left her out when he reactivated swans
L E A K W H E N
>>65205064
I'm 90% sure I saw her at a Sunn show last month, I was going to ask but couldn't find her afterwards
Is Gira gonna leak his own album again?
>>65205926
What city?
If p4k panned things for feminist cred they wouldn't have BNM'd Father John Misty and Ariel Pink recently
They also panned tf out of Charli XCX and she's an outspoken feminist.
>>65206114
>>65206088
it's easy to say bullshit like 'pitchfork gives albums by black artists a free ride' or 'pitchfork will pan this for feminism' if you disagree w their taste or think their writing is bad (which it often is, but uhhh maybe lemonade is just a good album to them and A LOT of people guys)
also this song is great but it does kinda sound like Bring the Sun mixed w/ The Seer Returns, I hope they do newer and more experimental things with this more melancholy/ethereal mood they're returning to
>unironically discussing and knowing about what p4k does
>>65202106
>>65202161
>mfw this track gets BNT after y'all said this
So do you nerds like it or not?
I'm incapable of making my own decisions.
>>65206177
This, same format and melody structure. The call and response. But nether the less still decent.
>>65205527
well swans aren't that popular desu so obviously outside of music nerd communities no one talks about it
>>65202053
Stop pretending you know shit about music because you know what keys are
>>65202038
God damn there's such beautiful subtlety in the instrumentation. I'm in love with that organ that comes in every so often throughout the song.
>>65202053
michael gira doesn't know how to play guitar, he's said a million times that he just finds open tunings and fucks with them. it doesn't make it bad
This song is incredible.
>>65208009
He doesn't do that, I've covered his songs. Him and Norman both use standard you pleb.
>>65208009
when will this meme end? do you even play any instruments?
How do I into Swans?I can't find any working dl,can someone help me?
>>65202062
Fucking white knights I swear to god.
>>65208510
stick your cock up the first hole you find
>>65208510
>not knowing how to pirate
>being this retarded
>>65208510
Just go to youtube, spotify or anything and listen to "the Seer" Skip the title-song if it's too much for you the first time, Second part of the album is also the best.
you have to like repetition and drones a lot though
Hyped as hell, not listening to this track because my ear's fucked up at the moment but man am I looking forward to this.
>>65208510
well you first have to lie to yourself into thinking swans is anything more than hipster hogwash
I like it, the intro kind of harkens back to World of Skin era with the blunt lyrics performed by a woman.
his wife's vocal melody is fucking really good, blends well with Gira, song is great man
also who gives a shit what pitchfork say, swans have always been a niche band until their most recent reformation, if you're an actual fan then mainstream critics shouldn't inform your opinion, form your own.
>>65206012
Atlanta, apparently she lives here now
>>65202038
Idk guys.
I thought this song was very, very boring.
Literally nothing interesting is going on and then halfway through it turns into Bring the Sun, and i don't need 2 of those
>>65202106
It'll get a boring 7.5ish rating. Partly because P4K loves Swans but Michael Gira is also a rapist so they'll be sweating.
Is that fucking Jarboe?
>>65202053
Being this defensive about anything you see on here is dumb.
Don't put so much emphasis on being angry and trying to prove that you are better than people because you don't like Swans.
tfw no Swans discussion ever again without half the thread being a about rape
>>65208886
Yeah, she lives in Atlanta.
>>65209315
it's annoying how people constantly say swans fans are irritating hipsters when every time somebody professes to enjoying the band or wanting to have a discussion about them, a wave of swans haters will be at the ready to tell you how much of a poser you are for enjoying their music.
I don't think i've ever actually seen in my life a band where the detractors are more off-putting than the hardcore fans.
>>65209276
I'm assuming that that's the song with his wife and that that's his wife singing, this is a known thing whatever it is but I'm too lazy to look it up to check so take this as you will
>>65209561
Death Grips
>>65206308
i thought it was really boring desu. i hope his dumb broad of a wife (who has decent taste in music) doesnt take complete charge of this whole album and make swans go out with a dud
>>65210058
this
>>65209561
I've been a Swans fan for a long time and I don't really mind nu Swans fans.
>>65210194
This is the only song his wife has any involvement in.
>>65202106
This sounds more The Seer than TBK
I like it as an intermission track. It comes after the 20min Frankie M and moves into the 29min title track. Reminds me a bit of Some Things We Do, but it does have two distinct parts unlike that song from TBK. Definitely enjoying the heavy use of choir and coral vocals over the snippets I have heard.
>>65202038
Wow, if this song was by....idk...some band you've never heard of, you'd all completely ignore it. Its mediocre AT BEST, predictable and conventional even....
>>65212422
this is a worthless criticism
>>65210632
There are a surprising amount of subtle nods to The Seer on this album and I love them all.
>>65212505
Did you listen to it? please please PLEASE tell me how this is good. The melody is so obvious its practically cringe, the accompaniment is sparse, and not in a good way. There is nothing interesting, unique, catchy, or jolting about this track. HOPEFULLY this track is barebones, hopefully the rest of the album is far better. hoepfully theres some effot put into it AT ALL
>>65212617
Settle down. For all intents and purposes this track is an interlude and gives you a chance to breathe between the behemoths that disc 2 is composed of. It's very necessary.
>>65212617
>the melody is so obvious its practically cringe
i'm not even sure what to take away from this statement, it's an obvious melody? it clearly isn't as it flirts with dissonance at around the 1:14 mark, with the drone in the background conflicting with jennifer's voice. notice the subtle details such as the gothic organ, the electric guitar picking, the drum rolls all building into a strong groove at the 3:04 mark. this is, to me at least, satisfying as jennifer's voice wasn't particularly tuneful and kind of hearkened back to jarboe's vocal tones. then the vocal hook with jennifer's "I'm ali-ii-ii-iiive" is excellent. works well off the guitar notes being played in the background and gira's chanting.
I mean you may not like it, but that's why i personally do. my point is saying that if this was made by a different band nobody would care is a silly criticism because it doesn't actually say anything about the music directly and makes assumptions about people.
>>65212617
not the anon but stop typing and leave my board, thanks.
>>65209612
it is
>>65212803
Fair enough
>>65212831
The notes that the singer hits are predictable, thats how i feel, i don't know how else i can say it. The accompaniment is too detached from the vocals imo to give it the flavors you're describing.
>>65212920
I STILL feel like you're letting the idea that its a Swans track make you think its better than it is.
Not going to leak the record out of respect for Gira and co., but would anyone be interested in additional tastes of the album that aren't confined to 30 seconds? This album is brilliant and I feel like this single isn't really indicative of the hype it deserves. Will make a new thread if there's enough interest or if anyone has requests. If it's a bullshit thing to do and no one cares, disregard.
>>65213423
SWANS MAKES ME FART KAKA OUT MY KAKA BUTT
does anybody remember me from old swans threads?
>>65213444
jog my memory plz
>>65213518
i basically posted about kaka and the swans
>>65213423
if you're real dude can you post some of the world looks red/black?
>>65213741
Will do. Give me a few minutes.
>>65202038
Oh shit waddup. I am pretty excited. Not sure if it will be my AOTY though.
>>65208510
Soundtracks for the Blind, The Seer, To Be Kind. Listen in that order
female vocals are bad
>>65213898
why do i care about your AOTY?
>>65213898
>I am pretty excited. Not sure if it will be my AOTY though.
nice blog but I didn't ask for it
http://www71.zippyshare.com/v/1q066Vlt/file.html
Shit, are we about to witness one of the best 3-album streaks in the history of music?
/hype/
>>65214492
sounds awesome
>>65202062
You commend her for getting raped?
>>65202038
That song sounds like an extremely watered down, uninspired, and "Swansified" version of Jandek's Nancy Sings.
>>65209561
Radiohead
>>65214677
To expand, I'm actually quite a fan of Swans and loved their output up until TBK, which sort of lost me. This new song just sounds boring as fuck. They're getting way too formulaic with their music now, whereas in the past until The Seer they'd been doing something new with every album.
Post-breakup swans is bland as shit.
>>65213423
LEAK IT DEAK
>>65214492
HOLY SHIT LEAK THE RECORD
>>65214770
>apocalyptic neo-folk
>doomy tribal post-rock
>two hour magnum opuses
>thirty minute epics
>psychedelic jams
>bland
kek
>>65215006
>apocalyptic neo-folk
What ? When did Swans turn into Current 93 ?
>>65208510
Just torrent the discography and start listening.
do you have to like rock to get into swens?
>>65213423
If you can, how about the part of FRANKIE M that begins the main chord?
>>65202053
fucking music theory fags. kysmm
new swans albums power ranking
1. the seer
2. the glowing man
3. my father
4. to be kind
I cannot fucking wait for this record. Just fucking leak it senpai, I preordered the album anyway.
>>65214492
HORY SHET
POST MORE
>>65214492
what the fug
>>65214492
FUCKING LEAK IT
LEAK
>>65202053
Take this D, boi.
>>65215690
I'm not 100% I got the exact part you requested that captures the beginning of the "main chord", but I tried.
http://www54.zippyshare.com/v/SVhQ4zPy/file.html
Please order this record if you haven't already.
>>65216011
already done! thanks for posting these
again requesting you to please leak it I have had a very bad day my man
>>65216036
I know you and a lot of the people who give enough of a shit to lurk this thread are hyped as hell and probably already have the album ordered, but I have obligations to the source that had given it to me. Really sorry. It's been a shit day on my end as well. If anything, Glowing Man is a beacon of hope just a few weeks out and will probably sail past all of your expectations. Hope things get better for you.
>>65216096
it's cool man, thanks for the snippets I'm sure someone'll blow their load early and leak it soon enough.
>>65214492
>TFW WE GET AVALANCHES AND SWANS LEAKED IN THE SAME DAY
This is proggy
>>65216096
NIgger p[lease. I can't wsait for the seventeentyh. I don't even know if my CD will show up on the date.
>>65216136
>>65216230
I'm fairly confident it'll leak in a week or two. Someone always slips up. If the first leak is a shitty 128 kbps rip I'll be swift to remedy it, but that's about all I can do for the time being.
>>65216011
>http://www54.zippyshare.com/v/SVhQ4zPy/file.html
Oh yeah, I got whatever the most super-duper deluxe version is.
>>65216391
Could you upload the ending of The Glowing Man? I've wanted to know how they would do it on the album for like a year
Why is everyone asking for more snippets? You're just going to ruin your experience of the album.
Also leaker guy, you are a lucky lucky man.
>>65213423
Can you give an extended preview of 'People Like Us'? Me and my girlfriend listened through the samples and she seemed enamored by it so it'd be cool if we could hear a little more.
>>65217811
The Glowing Man the song that is
>>65202038
Swans fucking suck man. I enjoyed CoG but SFTB and TBK really disappointed me
ITT: Talentless hacks
>>65219396
>I enjoyed CoG but SFTB and TBK really disappointed me
That's an interesting opinion.
>>65219069
>>65217811
Leak man come back!
>>65218837
Mr. Snippets here. I wholeheartedly agree with your perspective here, and wouldn't want to listen to any singles beforehand, either. My only exposure to the new songs was during their last tour and they've changed quite a bit since then. But there is undeniably something to be said about going into a Swans album blind. I just assumed that most of the folks who are eager to check out these samples have already listened to whatever else is out there. Plus the album is such a massive labyrinth of sounds that as long as no one is playing these clips repeatedly until the 17th, I don't think it'll spoil all too much.
>>65217811
You REALLY wanna' hear the ending of Glowing Man? I can't give away all the good stuff, friend.
>>65219069
I can do that for you.
>>65219862
So what do you think of the album as a whole then? Are you able to give a mini-review?
>>65219862
>as long as no one is playing these clips repeatedly until the 17th
uh
>>65219888
>You REALLY wanna' hear the ending of Glowing Man? I can't give away all the good stuff, friend.
Fine, but it better be worth waiting 3 weeks for then.
>>65219862
How different does The Glowing Man sound compared to To Be Kind? Is it less heavy?
When Will I Return just appeared on What CD
>>65206177
I disagree with their taste sometimes and I agree sometimes, I think their writing is awful 100% of the time these days.
The vast majority of Swans fans are over 30, at least that's what I've noticed going to their shows.
>>65220022
The actual note that it ends on is less "epic" and more of a chance to catch your breath after finding your way through the title track... which is probably "post-Swans" at their noisiest and grooviest.
>>65219920
I don't want to oversell it or hype it up too much, but as a huge fan of both Seer and TBK, I couldn't be happier with the way the album turned out. It's like a perfect blend of the two with far more memorable moments. There's nothing quite as dense as the droney second half of Seer's title track, or the middle Bring the Sun; that is to say the album is a lot more gratifying upfront, and easier to revisit.
That isn't to say the album is a stroll in the park though. The riffs that Swans bring this time around are abundant, and they are good. So, so good. I really think Gira's compositions are on point more than ever. Since it's Swans, there is of course noise and dissonance to be had, but I do feel like the songs are structured and layered in the best way possible.
If you're into the music this iteration of Swans has been outputting, there's no way you're going to be disappointed with Glowing Man. After a week and a half it's easily cemented itself as my favorite of their post-hiatus releases. At least for the time being.
>>65220230
I would call it heavier as a whole. Some of those noisy, jagged horns from tracks like A Little God are there, but the true heaviness comes in the relentless repetition of riffs. All of the powerhouse tracks feature at least one or two movements of pummeling guitar that I can't get enough of. Frankie M. especially. I can't not lose my shit every time the last few minutes of that track comes around.
>>65220380
The actual note that it ends on is less "epic" and more of a chance to catch your breath after finding your way through the title track... which is probably "post-Swans" at their noisiest and grooviest.
Cool. Do they end the song the same way they do at the end of this vid?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z6t9qYbQmA
>>65220380
holy shit thank you mr.snippets
I have a question for you. I was a bit disappointed with the BBC excerpt of the title track. Its perfect until the heaviest part starts, when he shouts "I AM A GLOWING MAN I AM". In live versions what followed was just a really sharp and overwhelming wall of noise, but in the BBC excerpt it seemed like the noise was more in the background and the vocals overshadowed it. Is the final version the same?
>>65220557
There's a little bit more after that, but I'd call it more of a comedown (or atmospheric) than anything else. It doesn't go on for too long, but it sets the stage for the closer. A lot better than if they abruptly dove into it after those rise-and-falls, in that video.
>>65220597
>>65220418
i just wanted to ask if the reason you have it would be any indication that others do as well, and that it would leak anytime soon
im interested in pre-ordering it from young god but i always want to hear a record first
>>65220597
Damn son, this'll probably be my favorite Swans album
>>65220568
I know exactly what you mean, and I want to say it's more towards the subdued side. But "subdued" in that context is nothing to shake a stick at. There is so much going on in that song and it's all so good. It also features the closest Gira comes to Apostate levels of crazy. You guys catch this excerpt from the upcoming DVD yet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_h1i-WxVUs
>>65220621
I believe my copy was obtained from someone who received it to review. It's 320 and features no watermarks or anything. I'm willing to bet that plenty of people have had it for a few weeks now.
Initial hype aside, I do think it's my AOTY. Or at least for the first half of the year. My first listen was in the dark of my room with some decent headphones, and it was definitely surreal. Everything I was hoping for and then some. You will have no regrets pre-ordering it, and I couldn't encourage it enough.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5W2kdrLlz7U what song is this on the album? Or is it even there?
This all sounds ace. The one thing I've been wondering is what the 'Cloud' tracks sound like as openers. The live versions sounded quite structureless and chaotic, is this still the case?
>>65220813
Absolutely. That's the second of the two Clouds that kick off the record. Unknowing, I believe.
Which reminds me. I don't think the album starts off with as strong of a hook as Lunacy or Screen Shot bring to the table, but it's a stage-setter for sure. There's some really lovely piano buried in that track, and throughout the album. The first 30 seconds of the final track wouldn't be out of place on AMSP.
>>65219396
kysmm
>>65220829
You beat me to it, but yeah. The initial Cloud that kicks off the album is a little slower, but its 25 minute followup goes places, and goes Hard at some points. There's a few parts in the song where Gira has made it sound like the world is ending, right before slinking into a lumbering bass groove that builds into the hypnotic riff you get a taste of, in that video you linked. So damn good.
they'll just never fucking top "love will save you"
>>65220568
This
I was a little disappointed too when I noticed that those wailing guitars and wall of noises were gone from the song. But whatever, Gira probably knows what he's doing and it'll grow on me.
I want the album so bad but at the same time I don't want it to leak because I want Gira to be rich
fuck
>>65222259
I feel you my man
>>65214492
LEAK IT ANDY
>>65202823
Those Cloud tracks were basically straight drone and from what I hear that's mostly the case on the record. Curious to see how people respond to the album starting with 40 minutes of that after TBK was so streamlined.
I got this swans song stuck in my head and i can't figure out what it is!
It goes something like "can you me to the stair case" not 100% sure if that's right
>>65223456
no idea mate, what swans period should it be? any other clues?
>>65223456
Shit I had it but I accidentally it
>>65223531
>>65223528
Idk but he says that alot really fast it's really fucking with me
>>65223456
>>65223428
There's actually hardly any drone in the entire 2 hours that the album runs through. The Clouds are definitely not drone for what it's worth.
>>65223559
Could be literally any song by them then
>>65202053
Why the fuck would the key that a song is in ever matter? Keys don't dictate similarity in any way you autist.
