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Beginner information and FAQ:
>http://www.reddit.com/r/Guitar/wiki/index
Music Theory:
>http://www.justinguitar.com/
Guitar chords and inversions
>http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php
String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
>http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/
Floyd Rose Setup Video Tutorial:
>http://youtu.be/umY5NBKg5AA?list=PLcm7Ag6Q-OkZAmlY6dAhS2ZL9TUMeRZdI
Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar
Impulse Response Pack
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/svtfxjtillrdwt8/Gods+Cab+1.3.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/4n28zkjw0zgmdj9/ASEM+RECTO+V30+L2.wav
Free VST downloads (amps and effects simulators):
>http://www.vst4free.com/
ASIO drivers (essential to use VSTs while playing):
>http://www.asio4all.com/
JACK Tutorial for Linux audio production
>http://libremusicproduction.com/articles/demystifying-jack-%E2%80%93-beginners-guide-getting-started-jack
>Advancing Guitarist Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/cvfno10fv4lf4a8
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg
Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/zq35xorj2iaqh22
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/oflu4wdwofhqqtb
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/jmu86f7dj8bdxcd
Old Thread: >>65021794
why are they so based, bros?
>>65043072
Why are all kinds of music forums just filled with autists and idiots? This is literally the only place that I've found where people aren't THAT cringeworthy (most of the time).
>>65043111
glorious nippon takes pride on the shit they make
love my prestige, only would sell it to fund a goal guitar
>>65043072
>>Post gear
89' MIA Fender strat, G&L asat classic tele, 60s martin
>>Post desired gear
I dunno, something good for metal
>>How long have you been playing?
14 years
>>Fav guitars?
Love flying Vs
>>Fav guitarists?
Petrucci :^)
>>Projects?
I have only ever written short little riffs. Might be more motivated if I had some way of recording
>pics coming soon™
>desired gear
I need something in the range of 1-1.3k, a 24 fretter, set neck or neck through.
Any ideas? Ibanez seems to be all bolt on. Was thinking of a cheap no frills DC127
Also, my strat is missing one of the locking tuner knobs. Anyone know where I could by one? New or used doesn't matter. I've looked online and only ever found full sets.
>remembered that I used to post tabs in Ultimateguitar back when I was 14
>check my posts
>all xX_brootal_Xx meal songs that I autistically transcribed note for note
>saw that for some retarded reason I included my full name
>our address
>our home phone number
>mobile number
>link to my Friendster account
>even my birthday
>want to purge all my posts even though those numbers are not in use anymore and we've moved to a different city
>no idea what my username and password because that was 10 years ago
>panic.tiff
>constantly message the mods begging to delete all my tabs
>get ignored
>mfw
In this ITT: stupid /gg/ related shit we did when we were teenagers
>>65043456
Carvin should fit the bill nicely.
Check Reverb/Ebay as that config seems to be quite common.
>In this ITT:
stupid /gg/ related shit you're doing RIGHT NOW.
>>65043459
I don't think it's possible to buy just one. I'd take this chance to upgrade all of them. I've got a set of Sperzals on my RG8 and they're facking joocy
Really loving my setup atm. The Tonal Recall should be here as my second delay in a week or two and then I'll be mostly set.
Except for the reverb. I love the Procession, I really do, but it's way too over the top and it's kind of a one-trick pony. I need more traditional reverb options, ideally a Strymon flint but something like a BlueSky or a Neunaber will also do.
>>65043147
You must have missed the past few days
>>65043456
ESP and Schecter both make what you describe. I personally hate both's necks but if you like fatter necks than Ibby's then more power to you.
>>65043456
>having a minimum price
Congratulations, you've memed yourself.
>>65043147
>4chan
>where people aren't THAT cringeworthy
uh
>>65043562
Fuck. I was hoping to do it on the cheap because of finances right now. I guess I'll have to wait.
>>65043579
I really like your hand painted pedal. There isn't enough support for artisan tone painters. Just think, by paying $600 for $30 worth of parts, you're probably paying that guy's rent for a month.
>>65043648
You almost definitely won't get OEM but here: http://www.stewmac.com/Hardware_and_Parts/Tuning_Machines/Solid_Peghead_Guitar_Tuning_Machines/Gotoh_Schaller-style_Knob_Individual_Tuners.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=shopping&utm_campaign=2016-05-gp&gclid=CMSPi_6t6swCFYpufgodH9kPgA
May not match exactly but it will work.
>>65043672
Sweet. Thank you so much!
>>65043728
No problem mang :)
>>65043456
>Ibanez seems to be all bolt on
Why not an RGT?
>>65043668
And you still have the plus side of making people like you mad and butthurt about it. It's really a win-win-win scenario.
>>65043769
There are no newer 2016 prestige are there? Or else it seems good.
>>65043939
Thank you for always letting me make fun of you.
I treasure our relationship.
>>65044705
>le master troll
Always a pleasure, man.
Glorious Fender master race report in.
>>65044731
Why do you have a cable connecting the power in the the guitar output on that TS9?
I need help dudes!
I really want to learn Horizons by Genesis (Steve Hackett). The only good lesson I've been able to find is this one, and the tabs out there seem to be lacking:
>http://www.totallyguitars.com/target-songs/616-genesis/6744-horizons-genesis-guitar-lesson.html
Do you fellows have any sneaky tips to get around the paywall? Or know of this lesson being hosted elsewhere? Its a long shot, I know. But I don't want to pay $20+ of my peasant currency to learn one song.
NB: I have a terrible ear so learning it myself is pretty much out of the question.
>>65044750
>he doesn't loop his pedal's outputs into their power inputs so that they get powered up by the power of the guitar
baka do you even generate electricity with your guitar playing?
>>65044750
It's obviously a patch cable draped around the pedal. You can see the end off the top left corner by the knobs.
>>65044750
Not sure if srs, but no its a patch cable just laying around the pedal as to avoid draining battery life.
>>65044795
try getting a cookie editor plugin and seeing if there's anything really obvious that stands out.
>>65044723
whoa dude, you're not supposed to make fun of me, I'm supposed to make fun of you. You're gonna end up hurting my feelings!
>>65045079
thanks, I'll give it a shot. I actually just found a really good tab on songster, so I'm learning off that in the meantime :^)
Has anyone here played with a boss gt-100 for an extended period of time? I played with one and fell in love with the pedal fx, running into an actual amp but didn't get a chance to use the amp sims, and I understand they take a lot more effort to use. The features were pretty incredible though. Van anybody speak to the quality of amp sims? I'm mostly interested in milder gain settings.
Did the crazyaga meme finally die?
>>65045680
You're a real fucking faggot you know that? This crazyaga shit wouldn't be an issue if it weren't for all the newfags who can't even deal with the presence of a single autist.
Here's a simple guide:
-Don't reply to him
-Don't talk about him
>>65045690
>>65045722
Haha, just a question. Didn't realize it was such a hot button issue
>>65045787
kill yourself.
>>65045816
>>65045722
crazyaga detected
>>65045833
There's no way that cunt will post without a tripcode.
Share your boards
Pic related
Inb4 "muh toan"
>>65045877
There's no way that cunt would call someone a "fucking faggot" either, he's too much of a fucking faggot
I got a new 2x12 today. It's a stereo cab with a separate input for each speaker. Each speaker is 4ohms, which is what my amp likes so I've just been playing through one of the speakers. It's loud as fuck but what would happen if I used a cable like pic related to plus into both cab inputs at once? Is that bad for my amp? Does that create a rating of 8ohms since it would be both 4ohm speakers at once? I'm an idiot but I hope someone will be able to help me out.
>Gear = pic-related
Amp is an Egnater Rebel 20 through a Fender cab, pedals are PolyTune Noir tuner, Bad Horsie wah, JHS mod EHX Soul Food OD, Fender analog chorus, EHX Memory Man w/ Hazarai
>Desired gear
I dunno, probably a Vigier but I'll never be able to afford it without an endorsement.
>How long have you been playing?
10 years
>Fav. guitars?
Strats, Jazzmasters, hollow bodies, nylon string acoustics
>Fav. guitarists?
Guthrie Govan, Nels Cline, Jimi Hendrix, Eric Johnson
>Projects?
Currently playing lead guitar and keys in a prog rock band, writing an introductory essay to music theory for an upcoming blog, working on developing a solo jazz piano/guitar set
>Talk about and play music
Sure. Here's a short recording of me improvising over a backing track:
https://clyp.it/zmyzf3ce
>>65045940
> inb4 kek joyo
I almost never use it, more than enough gain from the amp.
>>65045976
Should have a mono switch on the back to use both speakers on one input.
>>65045985
So do you love the tone print thing as much as I do? I still can't get over how I can hold my phone over my pickup and zap a delay to an four slots on my 3x delay
>>65045989
nope, no switch.
>>65046038
Yeah, it just werks and there are some very good ones available.
I want a Vapor Trail though, it seems to be great.
>>65045722
>>65045816
Crazyaga pls go
>>65046069
it's not him. He's very opposed to swearing and being mean. Now shut the fuck up about him.
>>65045985
TC shill please go
>>65046067
>Vapor Trail
Had to Google but dude yeah that thing sounds cool. My flanger also utilizes the bucket brigade
>>65046081
Crazyaga, we get that you're upset but there's no need to be so rude to everyone else.
>>65046086
kek, wish I got paid shilling... got them bundled for cheap on eBay, was the cheapest alternative I had at the time to a multi-effects
>>65046120
Eh, if you got it cheap it's not that bad I guess
>>65046138
Not him but what's wrong with owning more than one pedal from a single company? I own five ehx pedals. Does that make me a shill too?
>>65045985
(Pic related)
>>65046228
EHX shill pls go
>>65046228
yes
>>65046228
Meant to reference this but I accidentally
>>65045940
>>65046238
>>65046242
Are you guys certain you aren't just a little green?
>>65046228
I have a question about your Holy Grail Max. Do you use the reverse very much? I'm looking at the Neo version of the Holy Grail and it's pretty much the same minus reverse, right? I need something that does plate.
>$25 for paint and primer
>$10 for clear coat
>$20 for an excess of sandpaper
Why is it a bad idea to refinish my MiM Tele again? It's cheap as shit and the current finish is chipped off everywhere.
>>65046261
o shit waddup
>>65046312
Do it, then. You might be able to make it look good. What color?
>>65046316
Tumblr meme pls go
>>65046312
Who said it was a bad idea? It's mainly because the value will drop, but frankly who gives a fuck if you don't want to sell the guitar.
Can anyone tell me why some people have such a hard on for (modern day) Orange? The Orange amps of today even the expensive ones aren't anywhere close to sounding like the old Orange amps that made the brand famous. Old Oranges had massive amounts of clean headroom and were medium gain amps at BEST.
The worst part of it all, the prices. For the price that you can get a new higher end Orange, you can buy a Matamp, Green, or Electric which still use the designs that made Orange famous.
>>65046261
EHX pls
you already make enough money
stop shilling on 4chan
>>65046312
it adds character, people will think youre and profesional at guitars if the finish is fucked up
>>65046284
I find the reverse reverb is pretty bland on its own. Reverse delay with the time like all the way down into some other reverb works out better. It's funny bc initially the reverse setting is what sold me. Fucking epic plate and hall on the grail IMO.
>>65046358
They have the texture of a real orange. That's fucking amazing
>>65046334
Surf green. Once saw a Stratocaster in the color and I loved it.
>>65046351
Not planning on selling it at all, the telecaster is one of my dream guitars. I asked about refinishing here before and the major opinion was to not refinish.
>>65046362
>needing body damage for street cred
>>65046312
the thing with chipped paint is you have ti actually remove it instead of painting over. That's pretty difficult. Ultimately you'll have to decide if it's worth it to you.
>>65046358
they get paid to play them and they look cool. Sounds like a win-win to me.
>>65046312
Why not buy some cans of Reranch nitro lacquer and use that? They sell all the primers and clearcoats you need too.
>>65046374
cool, that's about what I figured. I'll go with the Neo, then.
>>65046380
I was probably one of the people who advised you against it because it's really difficult and 9/10 times it comes out looking like complete shit unless you're a professional. But I think you should go for it, it sounds like it's a project you want to do and you like the guitar. You can't fuck a body up too bad. just don't excessively sand in any important areas. Sanding finish off is a fucking task.
>>65046434
>recommending reranch
Jeez, he already is complaining about price and you want him to use reranch? They cost more on the basis that they're vintage correct colors, which they aren't.
>>65046449
I think a key to getting a good result with a DIY refinish is to use paints made for idiots at home, not the same paint guitar manufacturers use.
>>65046434
I was likely going to go this route, I was going to check local hardware stores for car paint prices first though. Curious about their shipping rates..
>>65046449
Thanks senpai. From what I've read, going slow and doing a lot of lighter coats in lieu of doing one heavy is the way to go.
>>65046398
I got an orbital sander lying around that I got in a garage sale eons ago. It shouldn't be too hard with the right sand paper.
>>65046478
I recommended reranch because a lot of people have used it and enjoy the results. Supposedly they're much better than just using automotive stuff.
>>65046358
Matamp and Green are the same company.
>>65046377
The "real" Orange amps were made by Matamp.
>>65046565
They're different distributors.
where do you even buy Matamp and Green amps from
>>65046602
http://matamp.co.uk/amplification/
http://www.greenamps.com/green-amps-green-cabs.html
http://www.electricamp.com/main.html
IIRC the guy that runs Electric (usa, the last link) started to take peoples payments and not deliver on orders. Not sure what the full story behind that is.
>>65046581
You're thinking of Matamp UK and Matamp US/Electric Amp. Green and Matamp UK are the same company.
Any other rickfags out there?
>>65046645
Last two links are the same guy. They're not the same as the Matamps. Guy is dodgy as fuck and delivers to Vietnam veterans faster than anyone else.
If you're in the US I'd still go through Matamp UK to get a Green made.
>>65046697
I never heard of it before but it looks really ugly t b h
>>65045984
I can really hear the guthrie govan in your playing style
>>65046312
It's not, use duplicolor paints and minwax gloss, they're nitro based.
>>65046701
Yeah, honestly if I was spending that kind of cash I'd just buy from a local custom builder. Theres a guy here that runs a company called Steamboat and they make some pretty cool looking amps. Had the guy work on my VB-2 after the hot bias was red plating my tubes, he biased it a little cold though.
>>65044731
delicious color
>>65046754
Wow, thank you. That's one of the best things anyone's ever said about my playing. Huge compliment.
So my birthday is coming up and I'm thinking about asking momma for a mastery bridge for my jag. I'm looking for a bit more sustain and from what I've heard mastery bridges add some sustain. Does anyone have some experience with them?
>>65047001
if you want sustain play something other than a JM/Jag
Mastery are great either way.
>>65047056
Yeah, I'm aware short scale guitars aren't good for sustain, and I'm not looking for much just having issues especially at the higher frets where it almost sounds like a dead fret. It could just be a string height adjustment that I need.
That being said the fact that you say they're great is really all I needed to know. Just making sure they're not a waste of money.
>>65047001
I have one on my Jazzmaster and I love it. The tuning stability is great and it's a solid, well-built piece of hardware. As for sustain, it seems to hold notes much better than the stock bridge. I guess it would depend on what your current bridge is. I don't know if upgrading to a Mastery or Staytrem is worth the expense if you've already got a tune-o-matic and what you're after is just more sustain. There are a lot of other ways to get that including string type, string height, scale length, pickups, playing technique, pedals, etc. I was planning on replacing the absolute shite stock bridge on my JM anyway so I knew the upgrade would be worth it.
>>65047097
They're a huge waste of money. It's just a bridge, it's not going to give a Jaguar more sustain. Coming from someone who bought a replacement JM bridge because it was absolutely necessary.
>>65047102
it's a classic player HH, so it does have a tune-o-matic. I haven't had terrible tuning stability issues, although I have been avoiding using the trem. I think if I oiled up the nut it would help. I upped the gauge from the 9's it came with to 11's. I'm not sure if the nut needs to be filed for them but it seems to be ok.
In the end I wasn't really expecting a huge change but since I wouldn't be paying for it it wasn't a big deal. They seem like solid bridges, just wanted to be sure it wasn't a gimmick
>>65047197
It's not a gimmick but it's also definitely more for musicians who play consistently and understand the value of good hardware. If you've done all that already and you've got the TOM bridge I would have your mom spend that money on like, a used valve combo amp or something, since having the bridge replaced will cost at least $250 if a competent luthier is taking care of it. Just my opinion, though. if you're satisfied with your set-up and want that extra bit of gear to put your satisfaction levels over the edge a bit, then I say go for it.
>>65047197
It sounds like you need a professional setup from a shop, not a $350 meme bridge.
>>65047284
>>65047296
appreciate the advice
I had a sneaking suspicion this was the case
>>65047337
A good setup can make it feel like a new guitar. Cliche but true.
>>65043579
lmfao. it looks like you bought all this with your income tax. I just hope with all these pedals, you're not just a blues/pop guitarist. otherwise, the noise these pedals can make is kinda wasted
>when your mate snaps his leg playing a show
>>65047543
I love how the rest of his band doesn't even stop playing to help him.
>>65046697
Yeah, I'm one of the bassfags though.
>>65047680
probably didn't notice
>>65047680
It was about two seconds after it happened
>>65043482
>Submit a MLP tab to UG circa 2011
>it became the most popular tab for the song
>gets high ratings and got a total view count of almost 15k
>UG gives me free lifetime access to their pro features
>regret being into MLP and want to end myself for even liking it in the first place
>want to delete and unlink my tab from my account but I'd lose the free Tab Pro access
>>65047795
Getting free tab pro is easy as fuck
I've only uploaded like 4 MBV and 2 Dino Jr tabs and they gave me tab pro.
>>65047865
Did you submit your tabs before UG started implementing the tab pro thing?
IIRC you get tab pro for free if you contributed at least one thing to the site prior to the release of the premium features
>>65047910
oh that makes sense then
yeah my account is from like 2007 or so, lmao
>>65047795
>Doesn't post the actual link to the tab
you might as well now
>playing an instrument yourself badly instead of listening to someone else play it well
>>65048149
Quick question to all, should playing musical instruments be viewed as 'competitive', like sports?
I know some people who would practice on ends just to win a competition, but when it comes to that point, is it still considered playing music, or just a self jerk to perfect some muscle memory?
>>65047543
Holy fuck, did anybody film that happen?
>>65046697
Reporting for duty
>>65045976
It's a parallel splitter, so your impedance would be halved, creating a load of 2 ohms.
>>65048189
You should practice it as like you would practice sports, always pushing your own limits.
But playing it is not, the best performance is about being precise.
>>65043579
What kind of patch cables are you using there?
>>65048189
I never treat guitar as a competitive aspect of my life. I just pick it up and play, sometimes noodle over backing tracks for hours, play along to songs I know or figure them out by ear, read tabs, write songs/tabs. The moment I sit down and decide to improve a scale run's speed by an extra 5bpm because so and so can do it faster than me, my love of guitar is zapped.
I was a national level gymnast in my younger days so I know a lot about competition, guitar is expressive for me as faggy as that sounds
>>65043072
Shimmed the nut on my bass, literally solved all the problems I had with it. I probably did a bit of a hack job on it but it's definitely not moving so I'll just leave it as it is.
That said, I think I'll need to redo the setup and intonation because now the action is a bit higher than what I'm used to.
>>65050285
Take it somewhere and have a proper nut cut now that you know what you want. It's not expensive and far better to get a good nut on there.
>>65050436
Nothing like a good nut.
I'll do that eventually, but the thing is there already is a nice brass nut on there, the previous owner just cut the slots too deep. So after my sloppy setup it should be done for now and if I decide to play it for the next years I'll get a new nut and have a professional setup done.
Honest question here. which do you think is a higher act of virtuoso, vai/petrucci/satch kind of shredding, or the jazz kind of 'shred'?
two clips to compare,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql_bHgaQQZE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TbHc5i4O2tc
>>65050590
the jazz one, its so much more sophisticated and interesting
>>65050590
Either of those shredders are more interesting to me than Malsteem.
But jazz seems more sophisticated and interesting as said before. There's some musicality to it that gets lost if you just shred mindlessly
>tfw is way easier for me to be fast than to be melodic
Just fuck my shit up senpai
>>65050590
Playing fast doesn't mean you shred. Shred is more an act of showmanship.
Picking Yngwie is sorta cherrypicking though, he has absolutely no sense of subtelty compared to vai/petrucci/satch/a whole lot of guitarists.
Just listen to the second guitar solo at 3 minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5OmzUEm504
>>65050728
>>tfw is way easier for me to be fast than to be melodic
>Just fuck my shit up senpai
Same, I can play fast but it's useless if you can't play anything worthy of it.
>>65050285
>>65050436
>>65050550
By the way, since I never had a professional setup done, is there usually a big difference? Like, I don't always know 100% what I'm doing but right now my bass plays very smoothly and I just set the intonation to be as close as I could possibly get it, what would a professional do differently? Just from experience, was it worth it to have the setup done professionally vs doing it yourself?
>>65050590
It's both kind of the same. Pat Martino is pretty much a wanker, not that I don't like him but he's really just spitting out notes as fast as he can most of the time.
I would much rather listen to chill players like Jim Hall or Billy Bauer
>>65050903
a basic setup is just - intonation, truss rod adjustments, string height, and pickup height
if the luthier actually knows what he's doing he will make sure the nut height is good too. the nut is really the only difficult part when setting stuff up, if it isn't at a good height then he will have to either shim it, sand it, and/or file or fll+file the string slots if they aren't quite right
the nut stuff i'd take to a luthier, personally i'm just not confident enough doing stuff like that to my nut
>>65050590
i like listening to jazz fusion guitarists way more than the vai/satch type of players
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuY0_JCHaF4
i'd honestly say al di meola has the most accurate and dynamic picking hand i've ever listened to
>>65050975
Hmm, thanks for the input. I suppose when my hackjob of a nut shim gives in or doesn't satisfy me anymore I'll take it to a luthier and have a new nut cut to exactly my preferred string gauge with the perfect height as well, and at that point I'll have him do a complete and total setup with my strings as well.
Guys, I have this guitar.
For recording purposes or for different sound/whatever purposes, wat du recommend?
>>65051218
You want another guitar? Something with Humbuckers would be the logical choice. I would get a Gibson SG
>>65051218
If you really want something completely different, get either Baritone/7 string (although SSS 7 strings only exist as luthier made instruments) or a Bass VI
so the band i'm in is playing at some type of church party in august
i guess covering burzum is off the table now
>tfw want to get a kiesel aries to play jazz but don't want to be part of the djent stereotype
What's a good HM-2 replacement?
Or any tips on how to find one? Would it be easier just to build one?
>>65051445
You could always play some Antestor...
>>65051445
You could always cover some christian metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BC5VesTbFhg
>>65051767
eBay
Arion Metal Masters go cheap if you can't be bothered spending the money on another HM-2.
>>65051767
Behringer HM300 sounds almost identical, same circuit.
>>65050825
>Picking Yngwie is sorta cherrypicking though, he has absolutely no sense of subtelty
He is just locked into one specific style. The others explore a lot more with other styles. Yngwie's fucking great at what he does.
>started playing at 14
>got ok at 19
>meet gf and abandon guitar
>after uni, move to australia with new gf
>things go to shit, 26 back home
>wanna get back to guitar
>tfw you had all the time in the world before to get good
>tfw you're a old fuck now
>tfw i will never be able to play with others and have fun
I'll get the noose.
>>65052257
>started playing at 20
>got decent within 1 year
>didn't fall for the mojo demons aka women
All you need is a bit of autism and 4 hours of practice time every single day.
>>65052257
>tfw I'm 24 and started playing the guitar 1 week ago
>tfw I don't want a gf so I have all the time to become good when I'm not working
Is there still hope for me?
>>65051990
But the HM300 will break if you look at it wrong.
>>65052334
Not really, just don't stomp the shit out of it.
>>65052257
Man, there's plenty of great guitarists that never even touched a guitar until their late 30s to early 40s who've become well known. You have plenty of time.
>>65052257
its never too late anon
i hadn't played seriously for ~4 years until a few months ago and im gonna jam with a high school friend of mine soon
So anyway I have this super shreddy Ibanez RG, and what's a good humbucker I can put on it to get the standard Jazz rolled-off highs tone?
I really really don't want to get a hollow body.
>>65052373
I had a behringer EQ, shit broke by itself, I never played it outside of my appartment. They're not bad pedals but they're completely unreliable.
That makes me think I should get an EQ pedal, I'm sick of my amp's unintuitive tone knob.
>>65052416
Just use the middle position and lower both the volume and tone knob, that should already give you a smooth tone.
>>65052508
The middle position is a single coil. Doesn't really give the sound I want.
>>65052309
>didn't fall for the mojo demons aka women
You did good man.
>>65052330
>Is there still hope for me?
Let's hope so. I'm wondering too.
>>65052381
An example? Not being a dick. Genuinely curious.
>>65052409
>im gonna jam with a high school friend of mine soon
Good job mate. That's one of my dreams.
>>65043561
not playing guitar.
>>65043561
Moping because I'm getting old
>tfw mentally tired and unable to pick up new music theory
I picked up the guitar recently, got a pacifica 112v and I noticed that whenever I play a chord and lift my fingers at the end there is something like a strange metallic sound from strings. I only tuned my guitar but I don't have it set up or anything, is that sound only me playing badly or should I adjust something on the guitar itself?
>>65053535
Does it make the same sound as it does if you hit all the strings very lightly without fretting ? If so that's just bad muting technique.
hey fellow shedders, what do you think of my sick new toans?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s12e8jmn8vAz
only cost me 10 grand, what a steal!
>>65053558
Yeah it's something like that but much stronger. I just realized that it's the same as when I pick a string and right after touch it again slightly with the pick itself.
I guess I need to work on this, I just wasn't sure if the guitar was badly adjusted or I was just bad.
Anyone know how I get in the ball park of a Bob Mould tone? Seeing him live quite a few times and browsing the Internet he sends a dirty signal to a delay where it's split and sent through something called a harmonizer and sent to a tube amp and solid state amp.
Is there anyway to achieve that "wall of noise and harmoics" without spending a fortune?
Pic related. His early 90s setup
I'm going to buy a medium-high gain distortion pedal. Ya'll got any recommendations?
Walrus Audio Iron Horse and Earthquaker Devices Acapulco Gold have piqued my interest if anyone has played either of those.
>>65051767
Flea markets have them cheap.
>>65051990
No it doesn't.
https://clyp.it/latko352 MIJ HM-2
>>65049886
They're Evidence Audio SIS Monorail solderless patch cables. I really like them.
Pic is previous iteration of the pedalboard.
Anyone know any good guitars with an unfinished neck other than fender? I can't stand necks with a finish as they get sweaty and sticky way more quickly
>>65047543
fucking mudsharks
>>65054573
You want satin necks.
>>65054573
You can sand down or make any finished neck satin and smooth with a scotch brite pad in 5 minutes.
>>65052330
yes but your improvement will be drastically faster if you knew the proper way to practice.
And that goes for all of us
>>65054676
>>65054733
Thanks guys I'm gonna try it on my cheap epiphone first to see how it turns out
>>65050259
>I was a national level gymnast
How would you say this informs your playing? r8 your flatpicking?
How do you manage to play like this?
How many years of sweat and tears does it take?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FeptLky2mU
>>65053789
for a wall of noise doubling the signal in pretty much any way will get you close. There are ways that don't involve two amps.
>>65054824
I'm practicing a few hours every day using JustinGuitar, the practice schedule is pretty good there I think, at least for now.
>>65054959
if you ONLY practice this song, you could probably in a 7 months to a year if you practice at least 5 hours a week
>>65055735
>falling for the Rainbow Machine hype
>using the Rainbow Machine as a chorus
also why the fuck would you place your Arpanoid in the middle of your chain?
Omg and a Tera Echo? Fuck man! come on.
What kind of music do you play?
lmfao
>>65055847
You're the same guy shitting on everyone's remotely expensive/vast boards, aren't you?
Sounds like you're mad jealous and butthurt about being poor.
>>65055847
>not even mentioning the fact there's more pedals than speaker inches
I mean come on
>>65055968
I have a 4X10 in top of the 1X15. I haven't gotten to 55 pedals quite yet, maybe someday.
>>65055913
the only reason I'm shitting on you guys, is because I've never seen any of you come up with anything other than indie or blues. Also from experience. I used to have a 2 board setup and it was so fucking cumbersome and even the guys that use effect pedals a bunch, don't press this many.
Also you plebs don't even scratch the surface of these pedals so it's like they gave you guys a bajillion options and you fools only stick to one
if there's one thing I love is hearing crazy sounds and trying to figure out how to recreate those sounds
>>65055968
but great choice on the freeze pedal. Bill Frissell, Fripp and Nels Cline sold me on it. brilliant fucking concept
>>65046727
john lennon played a rick you dip i dont even own a guitar and i know that
>go on talkbass
>no idiots asking why they shouldn't add a 115 to their 410 rig
Feelsgood
>>65052309
>mojo demons
Kek, I'm proud of you!
>>65052416
Air Norton may I presume in the neck?
Lower volume, lower tone controls.
>>65053611
At least use a more realistic price if you try to bait. Could also lose the word toans and the exclamation mark to make it realistic. 3/10
>>65055993
It's your money, I'm not responsible for what you buy.
>>65056066
I've been wanting a freeze for a while but 135€ seems a bit steep for what it is
>>65054573
musicman.
>>65055735
This is the indie equivalent of 10 string guitars tbqh
>>65052416
Gibson Classic 57 like they use in their expensive archtops
Does anybody here know of an amp sim that models something with a mid sweep knob? Most of my favorite sims from a distortion perspective use tone stacks that I'm not really fond of, and I'm wanting to keep my rig as close to 100% digital as possible. I might grab one of these pedals (or a Two Notes Le Lead) but I'd like to see if I can find a preamp that does what I want first
Like, I love how the Ignite Amps stuff and Amplitube 4 sound for high gain, but I just don't like compromising on the mids and sticking EQs before and after only goes so far.
>>65056459
I have one of those too.
>>65056459
it's the growing boutique pedal culture. Gotta get the craziest pedal to play Creep
>>65056552
nice! do you have a sample of your playing?
>>65043613
I think the point was more like 0-1, 1.3 at the most.
>>65056552
I keep looking at their multiscales and wanting them, but my Interceptor came with such nightmarishly awful fretwork that I figure the expense to get a good Pendulum/Intrepid playable is going to throw the price up into regular brand (e.g. Ibanez) tiers.
>>65056545
You don't need to go out of your way to find a preamp with that kind of EQ, everything in the stack is post-gain anyway. You can put a parametric EQ after the preamp and achieve the same effect.
>>65054885
I was saying it to show I have a strong understanding of competitiveness and goal setting, and guitar playing isn't like sports training at all
>>65050590
oh easily martino. malmsteen just seems like hes going up and down scales. which he his.
i think holdsworth combines the 2 the best.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zMi2mCe7CKg
extremely melodic while still blazingly fast (and clean) and more interesting than malmsteen
>>65056701
4chan is 18+
>>65057240
wtf I'm 25. I just really want to hear what that 8 string and all those pedals gets you
>>65055628
>7 months to a year if you practice at least 5 hours a week
Jesus.
What if you have some previous experience? I guess that estimate it's for someone that never touched a guitar before.
>>65052381
>until their late 30's or 40's
genuinely can't think of one man. it really isn't bullshit that your brain is more malleable when you're younger. best time to start is like 9-15
>>65047296
Ahahaha
Who can't even set up a guitar shouldn't play.
>>65057343
>8 string
Did you even look at the picture?
>>65057798
no but who cares. it's more than 6. let's fucking hear that chapman stick
>>65056552
How do you play that without any of those lower stringers rattling? I played a Legator 8 and it was a mess.
>>65057952
How do you play on your G string without the lower strings rattling ?
>>65057343
I was just bullying because of the rick and morty picture
>>65058037
very carefully. Guthrie says, "use a fluffy hairband.
>>65057952
>>65058037
>>65058131
I swear to god guitarists are such plebs when it comes to muting.
>>65058037
What are you asking exactly? I play a 6 string. You can mute with both your palms. The problem with 8 string is that there typically isn't enough flesh to compensate. I can't imagine how a 10 string must feel.
>>65058175
I don't play extended range, faggot. Why would I know a anything about something relatively niche?
>>65058131
Guthrie only uses it when doing two handed tapping. If you can't mute the strings when playing in a regular way, you need to rethink your technique
>>65058175
Well at least if they're playing clean it's not overly annoying as it is on bass. But I cringe every time I hear my friend play because his muting is shit.
>>65058178
>there typically isn't enough flesh to compensate
Use your forearm. You can't run out of flesh to mute the strings, that's just not possible. I mean you probably didn't spend enough time on it to get that, you're not to blame.
>>65058218
>proper technique is niche.
>>65058218
>muting your strings is niche
Fucking guitarists.
>>65058280
"not as bad" doesn't mean that it should be acceptable, sure they're not droning in the background and muddy everything up because they're in the higher registers, but it's still sloppy as fuck.
>>65058344
I'm not advocating for letting your strings ring, but on a clean signal when someone's playing casually it doesn't bother me much.
>>65057952
I have a fretwrap and big enough hands to mute everything properly.
>>65058280
>>65058344
playing an 8 string is still niche. Knowing how to properly mute an 8 string is niche. I didn't once suggest proper technique isn't common, you fucking morons. Stop being so fucking argumentative.
>>65058441
>knowing how to put your hand/arm on the strings is niche
Do you also need someone to wipe your ass ?
>>65058466
>reiterating the same bullshit
You're a special type of retarded.
>>65058488
t. faggot who still can't understand how to mute strings
>>65058405
It just annoys me when people don't learn it because they don't mind, proper technique should be enforced on new players so they don't make these mistakes IMO.
>>65058441
Muting an extra string or two doesn't require any specialized techniques, it's literally just an extension of all the normal techniques so stop trying to justify your sloppy playing.
>>65058542
he's right. I thought it over and I'm retarded
>>65058542
>should be enforced on new players
guitar playing licenses when
im new to guitars how do i mute effectively
>>65058921
put your hands on the strings you don't want to play
>>65056009
You're so buttthurt and mad at other people having more stuff than you, lol.
>>65058974
its not that easy :\
>>65059005
it's exactly that easy. You touch the strings you don't want to produce a sound.
>>65058975
lmfao. the only pedal from either setups that I would want is the warped vinyl. but I committed to the charlie foxtrot and I've got no more space on the board except for maybe a tiny pedal. I need a tiny envelope filter/auto-wah. Just got into funk
Why is someone either A. A jealous poorfag, or B. Overcompensating for bad playing?
There's plenty of rich musicians who use minimal gear, some that suck and some that play amazingly. There's plenty of musicians with huge effects boards that can sound great with or without them.
You don't have to be an accomplished artist to want to use less or more effects, or want to use higher or lower end gear. It's a personal choice.
>>65059206
all I want is to hear how both of these guys are using all those great pedals. trying to get inspired here
this is probably a stupid question, but...
how do i use the rest of the fretboard?
all tabs i see only ever use the basic chords, and i've never really went further up the neck than the third or fourth fret.
how do i learn to use the rest of the fretboard?
>>65059250
Nobody owes you any explanation about how and why they chose and paid for their gear.
Your douche attitude only makes you come off as an envious, poorfag, edgy teenager.
Grow up.
>>65059455
Damn that guy hurt your feelings, guess his comments hit home.
>>65059389
Stop playing simpleton music
>>65059487
This tbqhfam
Had a guitar for almost 2 years now and I still can't play chords. Wtf is wrong with me.
>>65048189
As far as developing your abilities, you should always be competitive, driving yourself to be the best you can be.
But when it comes to performance, what matters most is making it serve the song. If you can play it competently, stay within your abilities AND make it sound good enough that people have a good time, that's really all that matters. Ultimately, nobody cares if you play Wonderwall or I'm Yours as long as you can do it well enough to bring back that feeling they had when the words REALLY meant something to them for the first time.
>>65059814
You put no effort into learning how to do chords well.
>>65059814
ez senpai. learn the moveable major minor and 7th chords and then practice them while watching tv. muscle memory kicks in then and you're good
>>65059881
It's really hard.
>>65059952
I don't know what those are. I use tabs for everything.
>>65060001
>don't bother learning chords
>complain you can't play chords
Apply yourself, I've been playing for two years and the only chords I can't pull out of my ass are non-major/minor chords with extensions.
>>65060111
what do you mean by non-major/minor chords with extensions?
like 9ths or 13ths (dominant chords) or diminished or augmented?
>>65060001
how is it hard? guitar is one of the easiest instruments to learn chords on, every shape is moveable. not the same with piano
>>65060111
>>65060165
I'm trying. I used to play bass. I never fucked around with chords. My fingers keep muting the strings and guitar strings are harder to press than bass strings are.
>>65060243
>I'm trying.
Yet after 2 years of trying you don't know what major and minor chords are?
>>65060141
Fancy chords like Bsus4add9 just to pull some random exemple.
>>65060243
>guitar strings are harder to press than bass strings are.
They're not. Unless your guitar is setup like garbage, but you'd notice that after two years. Being used to bass isn't an excuse, that means you have at least some musical background and experience. Basic chords aren't hard, stop whining and practice your chords.
>>65049192
Okay, thanks. I just searched Y cable to get that pic. Is there some kind of mono splitter where I can send 4ohms from the amp's output through each 4ohm speakers? That would be ideal.
>>65060311
>Bsus4add9
this isn't a chord you'd ever have to use
>>65060243
honestly the shapes are easy, just learn them. especially major and minor shapes
>>65060358
this is what I'm trying to do I guess, double my signal. Is this possible?
>>65060243
>he doesn't play chords on bass
>>65060444
Hey you never know, it sounds neat, and if I'm not wrong you could use it instead of F# Dominant 7th for some more interesting sounds.
But yeah I was saying Bsus4add9 just to take the piss out of it.
>>65060819
Fuck, it's minor seventh, not dominant seventh, I don't know why I said that.
I have relatively hot humbuckers into a tubescreamer into a dirty amp - how do I make my taps (think 'hot for teacher' intro) get roughly the same volume as my picked notes? Compressor?
>>65060924
yes. ideally you want to tap harder though
Gear - Cheap Ebay Guitar
Desired Gear - I was hoping I could get some help on that. I posted something in the last thread, asking what guitar would be good for slow blues/heavy metal (think SRV and Electric Wizard). Response was http://www.andertons.co.uk/solid-body-electric-guitars/pid23424/cid671/epiphone-les-paul-custom-pro-in-ebony.asp
Is this a good one to get? I've been seeing mixed reviews on Epiphone's products.
Years playing - About two years
Fav guitarists - SRV, Albert King, Hendrix, Jus Oborn, Greg Ginn
i have some electric buzzing issues with my guitar, /gg/.
when i'm not in contact with any metal parts on my guitar, my amp buzzes really loud. but as soon as i touch any metal part on the guitar, the buzzing reduces or goes away completely, depending on the settings. but no matter the settings, the buzz comes back when i'm not in contact with the guitarparts.
what's going on here?
>>65061112
Electric wizard use SGs, not LPs.
You're never getting the same sound without some big ass fuckstacks though
>>65060477
The same thing will happen with that splitter too.
It's a simple matter of physics when you try to power two speakers with one output, and how much impedance the amp sees depends on how the speakers are wired.
A splitter connects the speakers in parallel by definition, so the net impedance will go down. If the two impedances are the same as yours are, the total impedance will go down by half.
>>65061547
so what I want to do is impossible?
>>65061193
So, what should I get?
GUYS
Anyone got a pdf or epub or something of Hal Galper's "Forward Motion" book? I desperately need it can't find it.
>>65061189
Most likely a grounding issue, i.e your amplifier is plugged into a non grounded socket.
>>65061189
It's a simple grounding issue.
All audio circuits need a ground point so they can throw away the random noises that float around their circuits. That way they can run at their most quiet.
The third prong of your electrical outlet is what most people think of as a ground point, and it is the most common. What most people don't know however is that the human body is ALSO considered an electrical ground point. It's not as good as that third prong, not to mention very dangerous and perhaps fatal under the wrong conditions, but it IS a ground point.
And that's why your amp doesn't buzz when you're touching the strings of your guitar.
>>65061568
Yes. A 4 x 4ohm speaker array could give you an impedance of 4 ohms.
Most amps can handle some mismatch. The output devices just see a difference load.
>>65061769
The amp is grounding you, not the other way around.
>>65051767
I found one in with all my shit. Have no idea where it came from, never saw anyone i know with one. I looked up the serial #, it says it was made in '87
>>65061597
Not him, but does your current guitar have neck whip? For what you want pretty much any guitar with a humbucker will be fine. So that doesn't narrow it down much. What you need to look for is hood playability and value. Or, alternatively and what I recommend to beginners, a good neck and hardware. Taking your frets to get fixed is the only way for a beginner to be sure of good frets is to have them leveled, unfortunately.
Anyone here will tell you that you can get a lemon from any brand and price point.
>>65061841
what? Are you saying my guitar was picking up the electrical currents running through my body, and touching the strings kills these frequencies?
>>65061841
You're a tard. He's right. If you use an extention cord or something without a ground for your amp it wil usuallyl buzz, and when you touch it like other anon said the buzz goes away. How would the amp be grounding you then? It wouldn't.
>>65061903
>How would the amp be grounding you then?
Should have eaten those broccolis fuckface
>>65061895
Yes, we generate emr through some bodily processes. Creating a ground reference seems to quite us down to a manageable level.
>>65061895
Yeah, that's what he's saying. But don't listen to him. Your body does generate some kind of electricity, but the noise isn't from you. It's from the outlet it's plugged into. You know the amount that can power your house. Not the insignificant amount from you. Otherwise every piece of audio equipment anyone everywhere ever goes near will buzz unless they touch it.
>>65061939
>broccolis
Bed no dessert...
>>65061868
Neck whip? No, my guitar stays in tune just fine. The only problem I've had with it is breaking strings. When I bend the high e string up to a whole step, it has a tendency to break. I've broken it three times in six months. I'm not sure what the problem is. I'm planning on asking an older, professional guitarist about it and go from there.
>>65061903
>earth ground is only ground
there are different ways to go about grounding and baiting
>>65062015
where does it break?
i had a guitar where the high e would always break at the bridge, i sanded the bridge so it was less sharp and boom, haven't broken a string since
>>65061568
Yes.
With the speakers you have now it's impossible.
The best you can do is what you're already doing-run two speakers at a time.
Your Crate cab has 8 ohm speakers in it and they're wired in parrallel pairs, creating two 4-ohm banks of speakers.
If you connect those two banks in parallel, you'll have an impedance of 2 ohms.
If you connected them in series-parallel like in my picture, you'd have an impedance of 8 ohms.
To get a 4x12 cabinet with a total impedance of 4 ohms you'll need to change the impedance of your speakers. Either 4 speakers of 16 ohms wired in parallel, or 4 speakers with a 4-ohm impedance wired in series-parallel.
Since 4 ohm speakers aren't common at all, your best best is with 16 ohm speakers, as found in almost every Marshall cab in existence. The plain old Marshall 1960 cab has a 16/4 ohm selector switch so you could run your amp through that if you wished and it would work just fine.
>>65061983
Every piece of audio equipment doesn't receive signal from high impedance pickups and a long cable.
>>65062060
I'm only able to run one speaker at a time.
Refinishing an old guitar.
What grit sandpaper should I finish with before starting the painting process?
About to go at the old finish with 150.
>>65062029
What? Where do you think it goes? It's all trying to get to the ground. All of the ground wires to your house are attached to a pipe driven like 5 feet into the ground. There's 2 fat black hot wires wrapped with bare neutral aluminum wires going to a house off the pole. The ground is attached to the breaker box to get all of that static/interference shit out.
>>65062048
Breaks in the middle. I'm bending at the 8th - 12th and picking right over the center pickup and it breaks somewhere between the two, probably at the pick.
>>65062076
Put the buzzing guitar on the stand and walk away. Does the buzzing go away? No. Then it's not you.
>>65062090
It's only a 2 speaker cab? My bad-I didn't notice that detail.
Either way, the math still doesn't work for you. Wire the 2 speakers in parallel and you get 2 ohms; wire them in series and the impedance becomes 8 ohms.
I actually have an old Ampeg stereo 2x12 cab that's done the same way except the speakers are 8 ohms each, which is A LOT more compatible with most amps.
>>65062193
The farther i get the quieter it gets. Could it be because the amp is farther away?
>>65062231
No
That's obviously not it.
hey guys, trying to learn my jazz chords - but is there a good place to find 7th chords charts? Not talking minor or major 7ths - just 7ths
>>65062210
Yeah it's 2 4ohm speakers with 2 seperate inputs, one for each speaker. no mono switch. I guess I'm just gonna keep using only the left speaker, then. It's really loud, I can only turn up to 3 in my house. I hope there aren't any problems when I take this to practice. The shop who traded it to me will probably just swap me again if I can't keep this one.
>>65062285
jazz isn't just about 7ths
>>65062306
yeah, but I've got some 7th chords on these standards that are bugging me.
Like Gb7, how the hell do I do that?
>>65062285
If it's "just a 7th", it's a minor 7th.
I don't know why that is, but it is that way.
Major 7ths are their own thing, and are specifically noted as such.
>>65062326
Make an A7 chord and move it up one fret higher
Done
>>65062326
Gb - Bb - Db - E
http://www.jamplay.com/tools/guitar-chords/1-standard/7-g/55-b7
>>65062327
That's not right.
If it's just a 7th it's a dominant 7th.
>>65062349
>>65062352
these
>>65062327
this anon means the 7th itself, not the chord. The chord is a dominant 7th
>>65062327
>>65062365
I was going to say, then why would there be a notation difference between G-7 and G7?
>>65062327
To clarify, the 7th referred to in a 7 chord (like an A7) is the minor 7th. There is no minor 3rd in the chord.
>>65062383
G-7
G7
Both include minor sevenths, but th G-7 has a minor 3rd, while G7 has a major 3rd
>>65059389
Learn the notes on the fretboard.
>>65062414
Isn't Gm7 more common than G-7 anyway ? I've never seen G-7 before
>>65062466
It's in these old handwritten standards haha
>>65062466
yeah, I hate the minus signs. Doesn't matter though, they mean the same thing
>>65062193
Fair enough. If your body is the ground, then why does touching the cable end not produce silence?
Grounding the cable end to a decent ground like the chassis definitely does.
I just buried my guitar cable in 5 ft of dirt. Amp still hums :/
Any tips on how to force yourself to throw away the boxes your pedals came in?
>>65062680
sell pedals
>>65062552
Because you haven't completed the circuit yet.
>>65062651
kek, did you at least use a good tonedirt?
>>65062015
>>65062145
Does anyone have any idea what my problem could be?
>>65062349
That would be a Bb7
>>65062306
>guy asks about the first step to playing jazz chords (7s)
>"jazz isn't just about 7s"
Classic /gg/
>>65062680
Keep them to preserve the tone of the pedals
>>65062651
Capacitors in the dirt are most likely dry and dead. You need to replace them.
>>65062800
So it is. I should have told him to play an E7 chord and move it up two frets.
Forgive me
this is my luthier built baby
>>65063102
she is so pretty
>>65062327
that's not right, don't try to educate people if you don't know theory yourself, you could set them back
How do I get really good at guitar fast with very little effort
>>65063234
>fast
>very little effort
pick a new hobby.
although it will difficult to succeed at anything with those expectations.
>>65063283
okay, how do I get relatively good at guitar with some effort
>>65063350
work 40 hours a week in a really depressing job that takes away your enthusiasm for just about everything apart from sleep and your guitar skills will flourish.
>>65063118
Whats the offical term for that colour guitar or has it just de-coloured overtime ?
>>65063396
Fuck this guy
Just practice
>>65063474
it's just an off white colour straight.
i suppose it's supposed to look like an aged white guitar from new.
Thread's about to 404.
New one please?
>>65063589
Right? Who the fuck sleeps..?
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