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NO SOUNDCLOUD LINKS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfkz1L_djkY
watching this gave me back motivation and will probably help me not to quit.
One of top ATC also
I can't get the cracked Reaktor to work on my Mac. Latest OS X.
Get this message when I try to drag instruments into the edit window: Error while reading Macintosh HD:Users:Shared:Reaktor Factory Library
Any ideas?
>>64608627
>mfw i see dat boi instead of le orange hate machine
how's this mix so far? i'm a little worried about the kicks
https://clyp.it/dvqhajtb
>>64609160
automate volume, dont sidechain
hereee come dat boi lol
>>64609094
o shit waddup!
herecum dat boi XDDDDDDDDDD
Any recs on software for Yamaha DX7s? Access to patch libraries and patch editors in one package would be ideal. Running OSX but could use windows if i had to.
o shit whaddup
O shit waddup
>>64609255
>>64609160
This is terrible advice. Sidechaining is perfectly fine when it's used correctly. Your mix just sounds off because you have conflicting frequencies and unnecessary frequencies. At 0:41 when that synth comes in it turns an ok song unlistenable. Brash, abrasive hi's flood the mix in a way they shouldn't. I like the energy behind the project, but it lacks in structure, the drums are pretty bad (snare is atrocious), your bass has no bass, and the white noise and sweeps are absolutely toxic.
In summary, you have something good and with a little more effort something very good. Keep messing around with layers and EQ to make the mix more desirable.
>>64609987 Fm7 from native instruments does the trick pretty well. I used to screw around with my Mk1 many years ago and they were perfectly syncronized via midi with all the banks and sounds cross transferable.
>>64609094
>mfw fags are triggered by my mane man trump
>>64609255
>automating volume to mimic sidechaining
Is he the god of Prod?
>>64610656
the really should
>>64610688
dont mimic sidechaining you dip. Sidechaining is just a thoughtless, lazy way to do volume control; limiting and careful microediting is the way to go
https://clyp.it/01tomege
Mixing tips?
Just starting to create dubstep and dubstep subgenres more seriously and I'm kinda going for that "epic anthem" style.
>over 9000 hours in ms paint
https://clyp.it/4zxdbmoi
It feels like its coming along nicely.
What do you think senpaitachi?
Is it interesting?
anybody have any good links to native instruments on os x that works with 10.11?
>>64610727
Hopkins is one of my few huge inspirations.
>>64610776
what
>>64609160
>>64610533
How is that snare "atrocious"? It's nothing special, but it goes nicely with the song
And as for that synth, I think the problem is more with overuse of phasing fx / some stereo effect, and perhaps a touch too much mid range energy
obviously this track needs to be mastered properly too, everything needs to be compressed and touched up in some way I'm sure
post a picture of the project in your DAW if you want us to help you further
and yes that noise is pretty annoying, needs to be much more focused and subtle
>>64609160
>>64610819
and also, sidechain the synth lead that comes in at :40 to your kick and snare a bit, it will allow the track to breathe a little more
>>64610727
no it's not it's a precise way to give rhythm to an element of your mix
>>64610845
>>64610819
>>64610533
How is it now? https://clyp.it/2e0xp1ji
thanks for the advice(s). i like the snare a lot so i'm keeping it, and yeah i need to tighten everything up and *really* need to replace the noises (i just whipped them up quick while i was writing it).
Is the sync lead really that bad? I cut some highs so it's probably better now.
>>64609009
god I love these videos
post more good against the clocks
why is ambient such a bitch to make? like i mean decent ambient not boring shit
>>64610738
dank meme
your clip is good quality alot better sounding than anything ive made so i cant really give you mixing tips
>>64609033
Sounds like its having trouble finding the individual module files in that directory. Have you checked that they're there?
>>64611166
unx is that you?
>>64611166
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhLj24b9yGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQkC6AkfPmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qNKgtzEWCs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv4O7XL0d0w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEHySFyN4Jc
>>64610727
>Sidechaining is just a thoughtless, lazy way to do volume control; limiting and careful microediting is the way to go
for fucks sake
>>64610727
jon hopkins isn't that special
>>64611166
>>64611648
best ones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toMvOFOgEjM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dB4-uYqplXc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQkC6AkfPmo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xepdHwUvC3E
>>64611648
always loved MNDSGN's video, just the vibes he has is fun to watch.
inspired me to get stoned off my ass and do the same thing
>>64611283
>dank meme
Thanks I worked really hard on it.
>your clip is good quality alot better sounding than anything ive made so i cant really give you mixing tips
Welp, I guess that's good then lol.
>>64610738
In the little steps between those anthem synths try out a more bass heavy synth fill, some modulation and automation on it. There's not that much low in this mix, at least that I could hear.
>>64610776
What native instruments? You know thats just a brand right?
>>64609009
>that sweater
>that mug
Comfy af.
>>64613440
Good idea.
I'll have a couple of verses of that and a couple of verses of the synths as they are now (ofc I'll change and rearrange the sounds etc).
Here's another dubstep thing I did last month https://clyp.it/gmxr2mgq
It's a bit "heavier".
>>64613849
Sounds pretty cool. Give the snare more mids, sounds too wooly next to that kick and you're good.
>>64611065
It's a bit better. Definitely tighter mix. I'm glad you at least are aware that the sounds need polishing. I would keep the underlying chords, they fit, but the lead still needs work. I almost feel like it should be another octave up it is less annoying now but it still just doesn't work.
>>64610738
Pretty good production but wow those chords are godawful. I mean jesus can you really not hear that they don't make any musical sense? Those slight theory mistakes turned a good start into novice garbage.
>>64610749
>Is it interesting?
You tell me Mr. Fouronthefloor
>>64609255
>>64610727
>limiting isn't lazy
fucking KEK
>sidechaining isn't precise
I rarely even have to use sidechaining in my work and I still know this is retarded. You can alter the ghost signal to be anything, automate every little parameter of the compressor/limiter/gate in use, and still do those said microedits if you really feel the need.
Give me ONE good reason that you are anti-sidechain other than that people tend to overuse it.
>>64611166
>like i mean decent ambient not boring shit
What the fuck did you just say? Who the fuck do you think you are you stupid cunt faggot?
are you some kind of ambient police?
how the fuck do YOU deicide which ambient is boring and which isnt. Get off your high horse.
I bet you're music is shit anyway.
Post your stuff please
>>64613979
Thanks.
I mixed this one on my dad's Rokit 5 G3's. Now that I have a pair of Yamaha HS7, I should mix it again.
>>64614105
Good point. I have a mean cold so my hearing is fucked up.
I'll redo the chords.
https://youtu.be/kYKrch5oAgE
>all of that gear
>all he does is a shitty beat with shitty samples
>>64614340
he only had 10 minutes
>>64614354
That's no excuse to use shitty samples and a bass that's way too prominent in the mix.
>>64614405
i wouldnt have a kick drum after 10 min
>>64614507
thats the whole point of this thing from what i can tell is to just get something done quickly and commit to it
>>64614340
>>64612864
>>64611648
holy shit is this how producers work?
its just random shit. no thought whatsoever.
dont you people have anything to tell with your music? no wonder its shit desu senpai
>>64614634
nah
it's all about aesthetics and streetwear brands now.
>>64614634
Y O U T U B E V I D E O S
evens: make a new song
odd: order pizza and cry in bath tub
0: both
>>64614977
>>64614977
rollin
>>64615010
We have a winner, hope you're using a laptop
>>64614977
>>64615096
Fuck that, it's 2am.
I'll eat the rest of my popcorn and cry in my bed instead.
>>64615071
tfw no money for pizza atleast i have a reason to cry
>>64614634
>dont you people have anything to tell with your music
it's just music, that's how i look at it
i'm not so pretentious , i don't really have a message for people
this is also exactly how i listen to music, it's all about the sonic and harmonic quality for me
>>64615238
this
are there really people out there that put on a song because they want to hear the statement it makes more than they want to hear the actual sounds?
>>64608627
O SHIT WADDUP!!!
I have a tascam midistudio but I want to start using DAWs instead. This is probably a stupid question but would there be any way to sync the mixer via midi to the DAW so I could use it to control the mixes in the actual daw or nah??
I still want to use it but I'm not sure if I can only use it as a separate mixer or if I can still use it for recording
>>64616524
If I can't get it to work, what are some good interface mixers that'd work with FL studio, reaper, and/or ableton?
Anyone got any experience with the free Softube bundle? Downloading it now, any thoughts on the Saturation Knob?
>>64609987
They have one in my college and my teacher used it with reaper and found tons of "ReaBanks" online
not dyin'
If I use the free version of FL Studio 12, but with VSTs other than the included ones, will I be able load my songs?
>>64619849
probably not, just find a crack m8
>>64619849
if you mean the demo version i dont think you can save and load at all
>>64615238
>it's just music
One shouldn’t do that: music is the product of the highest human intelligence, and of the best senses, the listening senses and of imagination and intuition.
And as soon as it becomes just a means for ambiance, as we say, environment, or for being used for certain purposes, then music becomes a whore, and one should not allow that really; one should not serve any existing demands or in particular not commercial values. That would be terrible: that is selling out the music.
>>64615453
>are there really people out there that put on a song because they want to hear the statement it makes more than they want to hear the actual sounds
Sometimes I just write whole chapters of nonsensical sentences because I just want to see words I like.
Sup /prod/brahs. Tried something new today with a recording. I'm thinking it's gonna be my new format moving ahead.
I put the waveform/spectrogram as the video, so you can jog and scrub the play bar to the exact event you see. It's tricky getting the pic to really line-up perfectly but it's still better than a pan-scan pic or just black. Opinions/yay/nay?
https://youtu.be/EAqB0iL1ZVI
>>64620419
I like this anon's ideas
is bitwig a good choice of DAW for linux?
>>64620750
its the best choice for linux imo
o shit waddup!
>>64620838
n-nothin'. waddup with you anon?
>>64620800
do you have experience with it? whats the learning curve?
>>64621036
not really i only demoed for the 30 days but it felt like using ableton to me which is pretty easy to use
>>64621185
ive only got experience using FL studio. are there any major problems with it you found or is it a solid daw?
>>64621325
well its alot newer than other daws so im sure there are more bugs than older softwares and i didnt really see anything that stood out to me
bitwig is the only daw that nativley supports linux that isnt some shit like lmms or ardour
>>64619849
there's cracks for 12 all over the fucking internet you idiot
>>64619849
you could just find a torrent. but if i were you i would learn ableton instead
>linux claims to be superior
>users have to bend over backwards to run basic programs
penguinfags BTFO
>>64622288
(You)
>>64622288
so yesterday we got /pol/ and today we get /g/. Any chance we can get a chill board like /k/ instead of this shit?
there are no good digital drum synthesis options... i want a fucking tempest so bad
How do these new cloud rap producers get rid of the instrumentals of old memphis rap songs?
I tried on Ableton while watching a YT Tutorial on turning any song into acapella using the M/S (?) option in EQ 8
, but I could still clearly hear the drums and instrumental
Any tips on turning a song into acapella?
>>64623149
Haven't heard of that method but have you tried the phase-flip with an instrumental?
>>64619849
12 is shit, use 11
when making a melodic EDM drop (this for example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jGow4nmYkkA ) do i just have the bass be the same as the chords or what? do keep the same notes as the chords but use the rhythm of the melody?
>>64624841
Usually you'll use the root notes of the chords with a different rhythm, usually closer to the kick. It varies however.
>>64622943
Hell yeah, I didn't know there were other /k/ommandos here
>>64625862
Hey there /k/omrade, where from? What sorta /prod/?
>>64626088
That state where those sperglords shot the blm protestors.
Mostly chamber works and recording bands, but I also like to do house sets at parties.
>>64626165
>youre a sperglord if you shoot chimp lives matter protestors
uhh
>>64626391
I meant for spouting memes. Also, I thought you were the guy whining about /pol/ and I didn't feel like spending my hangover watching another shitstor, otherwise I was going to replace protestors with dindus.
>>64626414
I'm not the guy you responded to initially :^)
>>64626447
I still have the star tribune article with the saigamarine quote clipped up somewhere.
>>64609987
Dexed my dudette
>>64620419
>Sometimes I just write whole chapters of nonsensical sentences because I just want to see words I like.
this might be a valid comparison if words didn't have actual meanings
>>64626414
>>64626391
oh good, they're back to make the htread better, like they always do
>>64608627
is the wiki dead?
>>64627865
http://mu-sic-production.wikia.com/wiki//mu/sic_Production_Wiki
I would appreciate it if you guys could rip my mix apart.
I'm new so I obviously know it's shit, but please some technical advice and I will give you imaginary shekels.
https://clyp.it/wnete0ls
not really related to production but how do you clean dust off your gear? Especially mixers, those are a bitch to clean.
https://clyp.it/g3qfmi0q
Started something atmospheric today, this came out instead. Uhh.
What do you think?
>>64628922
i use a vacuum cleaner and a lens cloth
>>64628922
yeah i just use a soft dusting brush with the vacuum. use your best judgement though, if there's anything that might get sucked off and sucked up then don't do it. but this works fine on my hammond, interfaces, controllers, etc. if i need anything wet i usually use a guitar polish liquid. windex is used a lot but windex can make some plastics turn yellow permanently, and you won't know for a few weeks when suddenly the shit turns a gross shityellow
>>64610727
Alot of what people use sidechaing for can be done with Lowpass filter and ADSR. But people like Slugarbed and Samiyam used it in creative ways. Its like autotune it can be used as a fix or can be used as an effect.
You shouldnt be sidechaing cos you want your kick to be louder in my opinion.
I've been considering getting this to thrown on my master for live performance effects.
I know i could potentially just build my own macro effects chain in ableton and get a midi controller to specifically use for this, but the interface on the RMX 1000 just seems really user friendly and it comes with a VST version.
anyone with one of these, or opinions?
Not really /prod/ but we talk about gear so...
what do you guys use for outside recording?
I've got a Tascam DR-40, a AT897,
a boompole and a deadcat for the mic...what should I get next?
Not really literate in gear but if I want to learn to play the keyboard and use it as a midi for FL or Ableton what is a good and relatively cheap one?
>>64629486
Oh hey a DR-40 bro! I moastly do stereo ambient recordings and this is my typical loadout. My mics are MXL 603s with omni capsules. I have a shotgun mic that gets minimal use, and a parabolic mic that i have a hard time finding good use for as well.
>>64629486
Oh and in terms of what you should get next, depends what you want to do. What kinds of recordings do you do now and where do you want to go?
>>64629733
Nice looking setup man, how much did that cost you?
>>64614152
don't have anything right now worth sharing and i meant anybody can make something sound "ambient" with a pad and a lot of reverb
>>64614634
>10 minutes
>>64614977
rollin
>>64629938
I built it all up one piece at a time. First I got the DR-40 for about $130 and used that alone for awhile. But then I got the mics and the set of omni capsules for them, so then I could build and use a Jecklin disk, which led to me getting the external preamps so i didn't have to use the noisy DR-40 preamps which meant i needed another phantom power supply, etc. All-up there's probably around $1000 there, which is incredibly cheap for the quality recordings I can get with it. But I save a lot of money making my own windmuffs, making the jecklin disk, the tripods were on clearance for $9 each, etc.
If I bought a super high quality recorder (instead of all the other separate components) it would have cost me 3x as much. I just have a bit more bulk to carry and setup but you do it for the dollarydoos
Here's an updated pic with my pack all packed
>>64629733
>>64629754
Thanks for all the infos and sharing your setup it looks very cool. I've heard several times that I should get one of those preamps...I plan on recording several sound sources in the street for a sound installation project so I'm looking for a more "precise recording" kind of gear than a atmospheric one (but also for multi use like interviewing).
>>64630163
Yeah a shotgun mic is def the thing for that sort of project! Every time I find or hear something that's perfect for the shotgun mic it goes away before I get it going (one single frog, woodpecker, owl, etc).
Beginner music producer, only things ive made so far have just been me and my mic recording everything. I was wondering if the Focusrite studio pack is a good beginners pack for recording stuff? http://m.finn.no/bap/webstore/ad.html?finnkode=45285887
>>64629071
>>64629176
thanks m8s I've just been using a swiffer cloth cus I thought a vacuum might be bad, but I'm def gonna try it now
>>64631108
if you have really old equipment with plenty of dust inside i suggest taking your time and disassembling everything and thoroughly cleaning the inside
a dude i bought my Dx7 from did that. Showed me the insides and everything, thing was looking brand new honestly.
Was working on this again, messing with main bus compression and my kick. I'm always worried about kicks probably cus i focus too much on them and then get boring cus i'm just hearing 'thump thump thump' all the time, what do you guys think?
https://clyp.it/gv43kitf
I've asked this before with no luck...
do you guys have standard routing for your submix? do you change it up every project? Do you separate drums into different busses, or just keep them all on one bus?
pls respond
How does james blake get the luscious, incredibly dynamic synth chord swells like in retrograde and used thorough out his new album? I know he uses the prophet 8
>>64630744
Seems okay if you're willing to spend the money. The interface is really good quality/value, unsure about the microphone and headphones but if you're a beginner, (i think) it's best to start with mid-quality stuff so that you know how to use your tools effectively.
>>64631744
I think it really depends on what youre making. Right now i'm making stuff where drums all go into one bus, but in the past i've made different busses for different parts, but usually will all go together at some point.
basically try different stuff, copy someone off a tutorial on youtube, etc.
>>64631754
Just listened to retrograde...
sounds like FM synthesis... 3-4 oscillators, all tuned with each other (maybe slightly detuned, but not supersaw level). Pitch envelope is added to make the first chords play at a much lower pitch and bend up to the true pitch of the notes.
similar patch was used on Moderat - Running, after the breakdown...
>>64631869
thanks! you are right, i should just try out different routing options and see what i like. i guess i'm just eager to establish something so i can build a Lemur template for a standard submix i'll always use... currently my submix is Drums/Bass/Rhythm/Vocals/Leads/Misc... i've liked it for mixing, but it doesn't jive well for live performance stuff...
Someone on here the other day said they separate their drums into multiple busses, and run all other music into one bus. I assume they just put that bus through a multiband comp?
I'll see if i can find some other options on youtube.
https://clyp.it/valbe1xn Been listening to a lot of lil yachty, and this is an ode to metro boomin called Metro Impresses Me
>>64632130
I know you're wrong because retrograde is basically all saws and subtractive, no FM. Not the guy asking btw, just happen to know this.
>>64634468
yeah, meant subtractive
Yo /prod/, I have a present for you http://thirdworlds.net/files/bottomless-pit-stems.zip
>>64632665
>multiple busses
Dave Pensado has a good example of how he does things on this Into The Lair episode;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ranVw1E7tb4
Summarized, he tends to use little bits of compression from multiple plugins on each instrument, busses them into groups and adds a little bit of glue compression there, then routes the groups to the stereo bus where there's another finalizing compressor waiting.
ok so fuck crying in a bathtub i made a little tune instead. not sure where to go with it which is my problem 99% of the time.
thoughts? https://clyp.it/rcid00aw
What do you guys think is the best source for samples and loop packs online? Just for anything and any genre like maybe drum one shots for instance. What have you had the best experience with?
>>64630163
shotgun mic. best for low prices would be a rode ntg2. they're not great microphones in comparrison to say, the sennheiser me66 etc etc.
Audio Technica shotgun mic isn't worth the money.
http://vstx.ru/post/2382/
anyone know if this is a legit full free good download?
i know it's a sound gooderiser but i just want something to quickly chuck on a vocal track whilst they're tracking. CLA-76 would be done for final mix
so this is a work in progress
i just want to know if the part in the middle contrasts well with the 1st and 3rd parts
https://clyp.it/kxa3kstf
>>64638667
ik the transitions are a bit rough
>>64636295
splice is alright if you dont mind paying 5$ or whatever to download individual samples from commercial packs
i mostly use classic drummachine samples or try to design my own sounds
>>64632665
those speakers always remind me of clear dildos lol
I don't know much music theory at the moment (I'm learning) but are there any specific things for helping to write acid jazz/nu-jazz/neo-soul/related stuff?
>>64608627
o shit waddup!
>>64641767
yikes
>>64641767
learning scales and chord progressions is what im doing at the moment
i think it helps out to do so
>>64641767
An envelope filter
>>64641767
It can be good to learn some songs from the genres you like, either by ear or if you can find sheet music.
>>64635774
bump
>>64638667
transitions could flow a bit better but this is pretty nice. everything sounds pretty damn great mixing wise, and i think the sections work nicely together
Alright m8s I'm fucking tired of putting off learning how to do all this shit.
What is the best DAW to make Future Funk?
>>64642285
>What is the best DAW to make Future Funk?
any of the popular daws really
they are just a tool for you to make your music and you can do any style in any daw
https://clyp.it/ju4ukp0v
Feedback me lads
>>64635774
>https://clyp.it/rcid00aw
not really mix related but at around 0:18 you have some elements that arent really in the same key - the bassline and guitar part don't really seem to complement eachother harmonically there.
>>64638667
sub seems a tiny bit loud also imo the middle part is more interesting than the other parts, i would just scrap the other stuff desu and expand on the middle part, maybe vary the percussion a little more too
https://clyp.it/qrsawtrw - something i'm working on right now. used 1/4" tape for the occasional pitch bend and tape saturation. snuck a little chrono trigger sample in (the organ) - it evolves into something a little more clubby than i usually do so i'm not really sure on that part, also don't really know where to develop it from here.
>>64642285
torrent FL Studio
>>64642530
this isn't really my style but i feel like some of your bassy sounds need to be tamed just a bit, might just be me though. also that hihat sample you have is kind of annoying
but this has a really nice groove to it. very fun track to listen to
>>64642654
damn i didn't notice that before. thanks
i like the pitch bending on your track a lot, wish i could fuck around with some tape stuff. sounds nice and warm. melodies are nice
>>64642530
don't listen to a lot of music like this (kind of reminds me of playing hotline miami though) but something seems off in the rhythmic feel of that arp that comes in the middle, just seems kind of stilted and doesn't really groove nicely.. also the midrange synth part thats doubling the bass seems a little loud in the mix, especially around 1:20
>>64642832
thanks! you can pick up a decent stereo tape deck for not a ton of money, multitracks can get really expensive though. i just use a teac a-2300 and sometimes bounce stuff to tape and back after ive mixed it in the box. as much as i love the sound, i also cant help but feeling i'm using it as a crutch kind of - like an instagram filter for audio or something. i wish i could produce and mix really really clean tracks in the box, but they never seem to have quite the same polish and depth compared to a lot of stuff i like to listen to.
>>64642323
could I do it Garageband?
>>64643116
garageband is pretty limited but you could. limitations arent always a bad thing though, sometimes they help the creative process for me. i would probably recommend ableton, pro tools, or logic though.
>>64643194
Thanks breh
Do you rec any good links, so I can familiarize myself with said DAW?
>>64643267
i dont have any in particular to recommend, but i know ableton has great tutorials built in and there's a ton of stuff on youtube. i'd recommend just dowloading a demo and diving in. it will be weird and confusing for a while but just keep on truckin.
>>64643194
>limitations arent always a bad thing though
yea for me if i have too many choices i wont get anything done sometimes
>>64609009
This is really impressive, if only for how fast he's able to get a nice melody going.
https://clyp.it/xeid14u1
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