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mulatto mix on this bjork joints
https://clyp.it/l1yb4ns3
clyp bump
https://clyp.it/enx2qg3n
Mixing really is everything for a good sounding track isn't it? Any guides for the mixing illiterate?
>>64526375
having trouble with mixing as well. cant figure out how to make all of the instruments on a pad sound distant from one another, I usually end up cramming too many sounds
https://clyp.it/wyc3kp5u
feed me pls
>>64526375
Using the right Instruments and sounds to fill the whole soundspectrum is very important for the overall song, but finding the GROOVE and ENHANCING it is key to a great mix.If you don't do this your mix will never sound PRO.
>>64526469
Check the link for the 'EQ Masterclass - An in-depth guide to EQ' in OP's pastebin.
>>64526375
yes it is. Mix engineers handbook is good, a shit tonne of practice. i've been mixing for 7 years and i'm just finishing an audio technology degree. if you have any questions, i'll try to help as much as possible.
as long as no cunt brings politics into this thread. this general got me through my dissertation with my sanity intact, i want to give back.
so yeah, anything specific or just a general guide?
also google the recording revolution. This link is good to give high quality information and also some great multitracks to work with and practice with, though many people on the forums are pretty... shit at mixing, use the resources though.
http://www.cambridge-mt.com/ms-mtk.htm
>>64526469
to give an impression of distance, it's about filtering out low end, eq in general, amplitude and also reverb.
>>64528255
My stuff gets all jumbled together and it just sounds like a wall of sound. What's like the basics of good mixing. I just want my stuff to sound listenable
>>64528383
ah okay cool.
Your two most important tools are your equalisers and your compressors.
A good practice to work by is to filter out ALL of the low end in a sound that isn't specifically there to produce low end. Like think of it this way, when you're mixing a song you have to decide where you want the main body of the bass to be coming from, for some songs you want the weight to be behind the kick and some behind the bass instrument.
So for starters, filter out anything below the main body of the instrument, this helps to remove low end mud from a sound.
Compression helps to bring a balance and consistency to your sounds.
Panning helps to separate sounds too.
>>64528545
also sorry forgot,
everything needs it's place in the mix so don't have say, 3 instruments that are dominating the area between 400hz and 1200hz, it becomes cluttered and messy.
with everything in it's own place the sound will appear more focussed
>>64528545
>>64528591
Aight thanks senpai. You've been a real help.
>>64529225
don't mention it, keep practicing.
>>64526282
>https://clyp.it/l1yb4ns3
jesus
get rid of that fucking melody right now
also get rid of the first 18 seconds
>>64526328
>https://clyp.it/enx2qg3n
melodies aint your thing uh
what does everyone submix look like?
>>64526282
a discernible snare would probably help the rhythm
rendering is always the least fun
I leave for a few weeks and this happens? Where the fuck is lunga?
https://clyp.it/ne0hsa4n
How is it?
>>64531504
hits hard, but I think the clap is a bit too loud
I can listen to it comfortably at max volume until the clap hits
>>64526282
>>64526328
>>64526492
Is this all the same guy? Each track has the same discernibly awful types of chord progressions and melodies. What type of fabricated reality do you live in that made you put actual time in to these?
>>64531575
Thanks, great advice. Just to be sure you mean the one around 0:48? Or the one in the main "drop"
>>64526469
Try to remove by eqing instead of boosting
Yo, I came here yesterday. A very friendly anon gave me some advice on the mix. I think it's better, but just in case can anyone tell me what they think now:
https://clyp.it/mi5cg4kb
>>64531944
>https://clyp.it/mi5cg4kb
okay, bring the highend on the overheads up a little, maybe a small boost around 10k. bass needs a little more compression but sounds good. drums could do with some more parallel compression, get some of the snappy transients forward a bit more. the guitar is a little too loud, could do with some more lows filtered out of it too. a nice quick slapback would sound good on it too. it's pretty good but just needs some final fine tuning.
>>64532659
>>64531944
that said, that china is way too loud. just came to that part of the song. it's mostly the cymbals and the hihat that need a little more brightness, toms are kind of lacking in weight too
anybody know if this is a legit full download?
http://vstx.ru/post/2382/
i know it's basically a soundgoodiser but i just want something nice for tracking vocals whilst the people are singing before i slap cla-76 on it
>>64529581
bump
opinion gents? i took a song i played on, recorded, mixed, mastered etc 2 years ago, gave it a remaster
https://clyp.it/jn3a4trj
thanks
>>64531594
>talks shit
>doesn't post clip
>>64526375
a good sounding track is everything for a good sounding track. meaning that if you write a shit tune it's going to be shit no matter what
who here like vaporwave?
https://clyp.it/lfm2y0lp
Is the Ableton Live free trial a trial of the Suite or Standard package?
>>64533918
not too sure what you mean?
can you specify? I got a free copy with one of my interfaces and that was a "demo" as such. I'm using a full version of live 8 for my live stuff. It has everything in it.
>>64531944
Hey man, said friendly anon here.
>https://clyp.it/mi5cg4kb
This is MUCH better. Drums cut through the mix consistently, and jesus the backing pad is significantly more satisfying now. Good work holmes I wouldn't change anything. I was thinking the rhodes thing @4:18 was a bit loud but letting it stand out actually fits very well.
>>64533312
see:
>>64531504
>>64533918
its a trial of suite for 30 days
I've been using a 4 track for a while and now I want more tracks. What are some top notch interfaces??
does any daw have more obnoxious shills than cockos reaper
i swear some of these fags have serious autism
https://clyp.it/wulpmunb
>>64536867
ableton live
why do all my synths sound so electric?
>>64537570
oh fuck i nearly forgot about them it was super bad when bitwig was announced i remember
>>64537596
those are the worst, and a close third would be FL fags, they're all so sheepish with their shilling and praise of it (this coming from an FLfag)
>>64526119
https://clyp.it/war2xx0r how is this?
Can someone give me tips/advice on how to better mix these? They're all done on a tascam 424 and I don't plan on moving to digital any time soon. Well, at least until I feel I can create a listenable EP using just 4-track cassette.
https://clyp.it/hufdl5ts -
I forgot to turn on some of the effects until the 1:15 mark, and I should've mixed the glittery/candy-ish sounding part a bit lower. Oops. It was tough for me because I tried making a synth sound without having a keyboard track and instead only changing the EQ for the tracks and ping pong recording them over and over again.
https://clyp.it/grm2d1sq -
The second demo is better, it starts like half-way through. I don't know why this one transferred to computer so loud. My bad.
https://clyp.it/5n5uotey -
I made this one to go with a whole song, but lost the cassette it was on. I like this one for the most part but it's all like "hissssss" and it reminds me of the band Pastels when I listen to it :)
Any help would be appreciated. Also, most of these are the better part of a year old, but I haven't improved much since I took an extended break from recording music up until recently.
Apologies for the long as shit post, I'm just excited to be getting back into music and want to do things better this time around.
>>64534960
preSonus
FocusRite
>>64537581
As in synthetic? That's just how synths are unless you drop money on them and tweak them a lot.
>>64538457
This, been using a FocusRite for forever now and I've had zero issues with it thus far
Could I get some feedback on this please?
https://clyp.it/eaoz4xf0
>>64538802
i know somone who uses focusrite in real life with no issues
i use a steinberg interface myself with no issues
i had a lexicon interface once and it was super shitty i wouldnt reccomend them
>>64538916
I had lexicon before moving to a steinberg mr816x and couldn't be happier after the switch
are you me?
>>64538347
A listenable EP will probably want some digital these days unless you acquire some serious analogue equipment. In the meantime, some thoughts.
Track 1: make the second drum that comes in have some more high mids, less low. Sounds too wooly. I would suggest some reverb on the "pad".
Track 2/2.5: put a high pass on the guitar mics, please god. There's a metric fuckton of background noise. Musically the first one is very meh, and that coupled with the bad recording just makes it not enjoyable to listen to. Not much to say for the second one, very simple but suffers the same sonic issues as the first part.
Track 3: Probably the best out of all of them. Has some slight clipping issues but they're small.
If you want to just touch them up I suggest downloading Audacity, can help to get your levels right in there. Honestly you're not going to have something you can send to someone until you get better equipment/better room. Good luck though!
>>64539126
i have a lower end steinberg interface ur22 model
>>64538840
Nice smooth low end, like that shaker percussion fade in at the start. Good use of synths. I would add some reverb to the clap in the drop, and use a heavier bass synth as well. It still sounds like its building. Good stuff otherwise.
ok /prod/ i am thinking about getting this for when i am not at my daw
do you think it is worth it ?
>>64539294
If you're getting it to learn sure or just play with ideas, sure. Does it have midi/USB out?
>>64539332
yea it says i can connect to my computer but only through usb to host only
my interface has midi port but those keyboards are kind of expensive compared to this one
it is mainly for practicing though
im not even sure if i could send the sounds to my daw maybe i would have to mic it ?
>>64539492
Any decent quality daw with virtual instrument support should automatically detect it.
>>64539143
Thanks for the response
i don't use mics :( but if I put an EQ unit (I have four of these big ones that are the same size as an spx9-00 but taller) in between the guitar and the input, would that do? I think two of them have high pass filters. Or would it be better to record the track clean, and then put the EQ in the effect loop and pingpong it to another track?
I'm not a big fan of the two demos, either. The only thing I do like is near the end of the second one where the wah-wah effect kinda twirls in and out with the tremolo effect.
I have an Otari 1" 16 track but the motors only work half the time and I don't have a standalone mixer. Would it be worth investing in repairing that? Or would the switch to digital be a bit more fruitful?
Oh and I have audacity, but I can't edit the individual tracks and instead get a mixed-down version since I don't have the right cables to record each track individually.
Part of me thinks that audacity is the one creating the clipping because it usually records to digital almost too quiet and I need to amplify before exporting as mp3, so maybe I'm just doing that wrong.
>>64539546
thanks friend
>>64539210
Thanks for the advice! Maybe it'll actually sound like it has a drop now lol
what's better, algorthmic reverb or convolution?
>>64541116
it depends what youre going for really
>>64541213
orchestral stuff mainly but i have an analog synth.
What are some daws with interesting or different workflows? I find the regular workflow in most DAWs kills all the creativity in me for some reasons. My best songs come from fucking around in sunvox and extempore, so I think weird workflows help a lot.
>>64541275
well convultion reverbs use realistic spaces i think that would be good for orchestral but you should experiment with both
>>64541737
trackers is the only thing i can think of besides using hardware
>>64539595
OK some good tips are that if you can do something earlier in the signal flow that affects the base sound (not fx) its better to do that. EQ in the chain early would help a lot. I would suggest playing each instrument individually then make a new track for each one and do it one by one, this way you can do a makeshift multitrack and at least have some mixing power.
Also, at your budget level its definitely easier to go digital. Analogue only really sounds good if you can drop a decent chunk of money on it, and there's no point really doing that if you're only really trying to make demos.
[spoiler]if you're in Sydney I can record you properly[/spoiler]
>>64542734
Mfw spoilers in clover are fucked
https://clyp.it/mtnbmfni
Feedback on this, I scrounged this up in a few minutes but I'm looking for tips on the prod. Thanks!
>>64542845
Something is out of time, its either one of the drums or the synth. That or youve swung something a lot, which can sound bad when its only a 5 second loop. Tone-wise its pretty good.
>vocal mixing
>big loud layered rock song
Now I know why they pay people for this shit
I hate mixing so fucking much
>>64542963
Parallel compression is your friend, friend
is this any good?
https://clyp.it/tnnsu2t0
>>64543020
/prod/ wise its good, panning eq etc is good. If its a backing track its fine, as a standalone needs to go somewhere, gets a bit repetitive (understandable if made as a loop on its own)
>>64543079
thanks. nothing was panned or EQd actually. and yeah it's a loop. i just don't know where to go with it.
>>64543122
Just hang onto it and eventually you'll get some ideas.
Now I figure it's time I stop giving nice advice and get you guys to fuck me, this is a WIP which I was using as a basis for a rap instrumental. Its come a bit further but I'm on my phone atm
https://clyp.it/yzzxy1qj
>>64543187
And yeah I'm aware this is really quiet, forgot to bring my levels up when I bounced it and its just used as a demo for the vocalist
>>64543122
Just good samples then.
https://clyp.it/lums2xqx
/Prod/
How'd I do?
Which good 61 key midi controller is good for a beginner?
I can't decide between Alesis VI61 Advanced 61-Key or an M-Audio oxygen 61, or a Novaton Launchkey 61 USB Mk2
>>64543932
A little bit bland atm but that'll change as you work on it, not bad. Sounds like an anime introduction.
>>64544445
it do? didn't think about it that.
Are Roland Juno-106's any good? Found one in my dad's attic.
>>64544510
Admittedly I don't watch very much anime but yeah I get that vibe from of it
>>64544540
the last anime(s) I watched were Pokemon and Yugioh. The new stuff, I'm not a genwunner
What DAWs does everyone here use? I commonly use Reaper, Reason, Ableton and a little bit of Fruity Loops
Just bought myself a novation control and midi fighter 3d for pretty cheap on eBay, just need to carve out a chunk of time where I can actually get into some decent production.
If any of you guys have a novation launchpad, I highly recommend checking out launchpad95, it's kind of a push emulation and it adds loads of functionality
>>64543020
I like it, I'd add an arp synth to it and maybe with into a chord progression, do some modulation on the synth, maybe add some glitch effects to the drumline or beat repeat
>>64545058
Ableton, I like the workflow in it as well as the bundled instruments fx and functionalities. Incredibly versatile for live performance too
>>64545058
Pro Tools. Everyone I know hates it for electronic stuff but I really like the workflow, fantastic with two screens.
>>64545296
Same guy, do wish I had some of the operator sounds from Ableton.
>>64544513
you fucking nigger, its analog and everything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOjx8wht7TA
>>64544513
they've been used by sigur ros and tame impala, their pretty well sought after, though also pretty common
https://clyp.it/m1zabuh0
how do I juke
>>64545708
Is that vocal sample swung? Sounds like its lagging just a bit too far after the beat.
>>64545730
nope, I just think I didn't trim the sample well enough
I extended this into an intro of sorts and now I'm stumped lol
https://clyp.it/2hbf1qmw
rate my production please, spent 3 weeks learning how to do this
>>64547523
Not bad, needs more to do something with. Tone is nice on that bass.
>>64547618
wow thanks dude. im hopefully gonna be one of the up and coming new mainstream stars. im going for "EDM mashed with Death Grips". :)
>>64547683
You probably won't go mainstream with a target audience like that but good luck to you
How do you "get good" at actually making songs (melodies, composition, ideas, developing a personal style etc)?
I feel like I'm at a decent level using my DAW, I have quite a few samples and VST synths, but my songs and ideas are just so bad. Most days I open my DAW and give up after 30-60 minutes of not coming up with any kind of idea or interesting start point, and it's just killing me. I've been doing this shit for 2 years and I don't have any songs to show for it. I mean I've finished a couple, but I just hate them after a week.
I don't even think the kind of music I'm trying to make is that complicated, but for me it's driving me insane.
Here are some examples of stuff inspiring what I would like to make:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1EtvSEM3k5w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkIz7LyGwmE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtWXA4ey-sU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stKE-mSF1X4
>>64547869
Layers. You're not gonig to have songs just materialize in your DAW. Usually you need to go in with a melody in mind, doesn't even have to be complex. Using that, build some drums and bass beneath it. Add a high pad and maybe some textural sounds beneath. Thats a good start.
>>64547869
>>64548116
>Usually you need to go in with a melody in mind
For you, maybe. I have great success with making accompaniments first and laying melodies on top of them. It's easier that way, becuse my brain understands harmony and rhythm better. Melodies are incredibly complex, but when you have a _context_ for them (the accompaniment), the direction they push and pull in will be more obvious. Also, melodies by themselves are rarely as interesting as melodies that interact with something else, like an accompaniment or a counter-melody. The most important reason though, is that melodies rarely DRIVE music, unless it's certain styles of classical or other obscure music. Usually, it's rhythm that makes music tick, and therefore, it makes more sense to start with that.
All methods work though, but they yield different results. If you have something specific in mind, picking the right "composition approach" is actually the decisive factor. If you don't have a goal in mind and just want to see what you can come up with though, it doesn't matter what method you use.
Experimenting with different methods is important though, because different people's brains work differently, and you won't necessarily do good by using the methods that others prescribe to you.
Your resultless "flailing about" in your daw is an important part of the learning process. Your brain will slowly and intuitively understand what approaches work and what doesn't. Failing is only one step closer to something good. It's important and necessary. Experience is the key.
>>64531065
What is this again I remember using this some time ago
>>64548399
>I have great success with making accompaniments first and laying melodies on top of them
Can confirm
How the hell did you guys ITT figure out how to make music? Do you use FL or what do you use?
I dont know where to start or how to make sounds out of nothing, what the hell. The pastebin makes no sense to me at all
>>64531504
Like this for example, how do I do this?
>>64548530
ruskie freeware sunvox
>>64548753
by channeling the power of my peanus weanus, of course :D
yes, my peanus weanus! haha :D :D!
>>64548753
>I dont know where to start
>want to make music
>look up how to make music
>make music
>>64548753
>Like this for example, how do I do this?
Ableton, FL Studio, Logic, no idea actually, but just pick any DAW, figure out its features, look up tutorials and go ahead
>>64548753
Not to sound mean anon but you sound like a normie who walked into a comic store asking how Green Lanterns fly.
But seriously, lots of tutorials, press keys, fuck with shit. Most of us do that. Everyone states at stage 1 like you.
Just don't do anything too extreme, don't choose a Daw cause someone said it was good but I will tell you this:
FL - this daw is common in most circles with people who want to make music easy and fun. Most people outside this daw hate FL cause it's "easy too use." If it's too "easy" it's clearly not for them and it has to be complicated. Has an easy flow, good piano roll and good support.
As I've said in my /g/ threads, /g/ likes shit to be complicated. They hate the easy way out which is why everything is coded to them.
Ableton - This Daw is like FL but backwards. This daw also has a shit piano roll but most people who learn it, swear by it being the best daw they'be used and the easiest once they know the tools.
Logic Pro - I don't know much about this but I hear a lot of bands use it, a lot of orchestra people us it and so on. I would guess it's better for live work
Lmms - This is as if Ableton and FL had a retarded cousin. The cousin liked what their big cousins did and said"I can do it too!" and made this janky ass looking interface and makes you feel like a 12 year old that is disorganized as hell. Some how this can work right dunno much
Those are the ones I've used and tried out or looked into, aside from that I say google it
>>64548753
I bought AudioMulch years ago along with Wavelab. I'd make noises in Audiomulch by using the inbuilt signal generators and randomly messing about with automation and adding effects, then I'd record that and chop it up in wavelab and put it back into AudioMulch.
I think AudioMulch is a great way to start learning about sound and sound design. Plus it's really basic but has so much creative potential due to all the automation and feedback loops you can make.
Thinking of getting a Rycote kit for my Zoom H2n, but I'm not sure how much improvement I should hope for.
Does the foam grip and shock mount make a huge difference on handling noise? Because right now, it's pretty hard to keep my hand and fingers still enough.
How about the fluffy thing? So far I've been avoiding wind entirely so I didn't have trouble with it, but does it actually stand up to any more than the slightest breeze?
And also, is Rycote alright at these things or do you know any better alternatives?
>>64548858
>>64548962
>>64549029
Thx a lot
>>64548962
Logic Pro is not for live work at all. i've used it in sound installations and can work for live but it is not a live use application. Ableton is more for that. Logic is very similar in purpose to Pro Tools, both of these i use. I prefer logic though.
>>64548753
>/prod/ a fortnight ago
>>64548753
I >>64549029 was going to say this >>64548858 too, but I forgot.
Most daws have a free trail 30 days is standard, some like AudioMulch have 60days some longer, some just bump up a message asking you to buy after the trial runs out.
Tbh I have used almost every DAW over the years, and they pretty much all work the same, some are linear like protocols, cubase, logic. Some are loop based like ableton, maschine. Some are a bit more unusual like Audiomulch, Sunvox.
The best way to get started is download a trial when you have a spare day and sit down and work your way through the getting started parts of the manual. Maybe try this with a few different Daws you like the look of until you find one that you enjoy working with. Also if you have some friends that /prod/ then it might be worth getting one they use as they will be able to help you out easier?
>>64549094
ah ok, funny enough, my brother is in a band, im doing edm stuff and his band uses I think Logic for recording.
>>64549055
Yep the deadcat wind sock is very good, you can see videos of it somewhere. I also have a H2n but I never got around to buying that kit,but that's the one I'd buy for sure. The shock mount will work too. I've kind of gotten over the need of the shock mount though as I tend to sit mine down on a mini tripod now instead of holding it.
>>64549205
yeah for recording, not live performance. unless that's what you meant but we had a misunderstanding.
I record/mix/master with mainly logic and sometimes pro tools
>>64549205
If you look at Logic you'll see that it's very much set up for EDM music, the synths and sound libraries are very much hiphop and electronic music orientated. It's a good all rounder really, and has great recording and audio editing features.
>>64549055
Forgot to mention Rycote are one of the best at making deadcats and shockmounts, which is why that kit is basically the same price as a h2n!
>>64549283
if i remember it the way i think i do, it was just too confusing for me.
then it might of been pro tools
>>64549431
Pro Tools has a good workflow but it just takes a bit longer to learn, and I would say is more shortcut reliant.
>>64549431
Logic is pretty straightforward really. I used to use cubase and when I bought a Mac a few years back cubase wasn't available on macs so I bought Logic, the transition was pretty seamless really. I think the biggest learning curve is working out the features of any DAW once that's done if you change DAW then it's just a case of finding the function you want in the new DAW and most functions are in the same places really.
>>64549589
It's not the first time someone tells me
"It's not what tools you have but it's how you use them" which is honestly true, even if I put down lmms but that's basically true either way.
>>64544513
no dude they're awful, send it to me and I'll dispose of it properly for you :^)
>>64549655
It's totally true I think. I know people are always shitting on Fruity Loops and it does look like a bit of a joke, but if you go back to 10-15 years ago and see what features were in DAWs you'd be surprised at how far pretty much any DAW has come. For instance I have cubase on my iPad which is far supirior to the cubase I was using when I first started out and the iPad version would get shit on feature wise by any PC or Mac DAW.
I've been using Maschine recently and I'm really liking how basic that is, I've not used my proper DAW in months.
>>64549802
well, it's totally true to a degree. I agree for music production that it's all down to preference with slight variations but i do foley/sound design to picture and find Logic Pro 9 (very important it's not logic X) and Pro Tools best for that, cubase a friend used and it crapped out on him a lot but is still also capable. not sure about FL video work since i've only ever seen a few people use it and they're annoying EDM kiddies.
>>64549317
>>64549229
Thanks, happy to hear that.
This sound okay senpai-sama
https://clyp.it/0z0z5bpl
>reduced to installing ubuntu on a chromebook to use LMMS
I miss my /prod/ computer so much right now.
Keep or trash?
https://clyp.it/ow40i0n0
>>64550931
Sounds pretty cool.
I'd keep it, save it for a rainy day.
>>64551064
>save it for a rainy day
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmVvdBk0c94
>>64542734
Well, I've been saving up for a decent computer for a while now since what I'm using is basically shit (pentium 2, 512mb ram) and sometimes it'll crash transferring the "mastered" two tracks to pc.
hmm. This is just random, but would it be a good idea to try and get really clean sounding recordings on the 424, then transfer each of them to PC for mixing and mastering? That way I can still get that 'tape sound' but it'd be coupled with the accessability of using a computer?
and no i'm pretty far from australia, i live at the northern tip of Maine, usa. i'm closer to canada than anywhere else worth mentioning in the states haha
>>64552145
Getting clean tracks would be smart, then you can maybe do some rudimentary panning, balancing etc. Definitely get your hands on a better computer. Also, look into a simple 2/2 or 4/4 interface, they're not expensive but if you want to do any home recordings you kind of need them. You can still get the tape sound if you want but starting clean is often better.
>>64552145
Have you tried pic related?
I like them and they both double up as a great tape delay unit, the J37 is a bit more versatile though.
I actually use the J37 as much as my actual tape delay.
Bump
https://clyp.it/l2fwkdl4
feedback on this would be very nice
>>64551064
sounds really familiar actually
Does anyone know that feel when listening to Steely Dan on brand new monitors?
Feels good man
>>64548962
What do i use if i want to make shit like eccojams?
And i don't mean le ebin slow down 80s pop song and press save, i mean getting a fucking lush ass sound with some sweet stereo delay and having the samples not turn to shit when you manipulate the pitch/speed.
tldr what does Lopatin use
>>64544513
no it's utter shit, worse then the yamaha psr models.
give it to some kid to learn keyboards or better yet.... give it to me :^))))
>>64554639
>i mean getting a fucking lush ass sound with some sweet stereo delay
Cant really help with your question as no idea what an eccojam is, but try something like N.I Replika or waves H-Delay for nice delay effects, Valhalla make some tasty reverbs for some lush sounds too
>>64554639
Lopatin uses Ableton but I'm fairly sure you can replicate his stuff with any daw
>>64554744
>>64554710
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8fM-CGQVCY
thanks
how about them samples tho? is it more about equalizing and trimming them right then the daw you use?
I'm a fl babby but i used audacity for any sample-based projects, now i got some midi controllers and i'm ready to start sampling in a daw.
>>64554834
>how about them samples tho?
Sounds like they've just sampled Toto or whatever it is used a time stretch and pitched it down, chucked it through a delay and a reverb. sounds pretty bad to be honest!
>is it more about equalizing and trimming them right then the daw you use?
Yes, as with most styles of music if you get all your samples nicely EQ'ed and sounding good before you start then thats a good start. You can pretty much chop and edit samples in any DAW nowadays, but I prefer to do mine in a separate Audio editor. I usually spend a few days chopping and making samples when I can't be fucked to write actual tracks
does anyone know how to download the audio unit vacuum pro? thanks m8s
>>64554233
bump
>>64554233
>>64556263
What sort of feedback are you after?
Sounds well produced and chilled to me I like it
>>64556187
>>64556187
>does anyone know how to download the audio unit vacuum pro? thanks m8s
a quick google search took me straight to the download page. Come on mate put some fucking effort in!
http://www.airmusictech.com/product/vacuum-pro#.VyjsyIRlmV4
https://clyp.it/s4n4v3qe
thoughts on this?
idc about the mix or anything at this point
but does it work?
is it cheesy?
>>64554233
It's quiet, other than that it's cool
>>64557287
If those 0:45 seconds are used as an intro, yes, that'll work
>>64557287
Bring a bassline of some sort in at ~0:22 and you've got a decent sounding rap instrumental on your hands.
https://clyp.it/pmm0cakd
did a mastering of some years old thing I had lying around that sounded like ass, put all my new knowledge to use. does it sound decent?
whats the difference between mastering and mixing, which is more important?
also, as a beginner should i focus more on songwriting or audio engineering?
joelmaufive said he was studying audio engineering for 10 years before even writing 1 song and that sounds super retarded to me desu.
>>64533792
can i get a comment or two on this clyppie
>>64554639
I've never heard of that genre. And also like I said before anon, it's not what you use, it's how you use it, pay attention to the thread my friend
BTW HI THREAD! How are you today?
>>64558260
there are different definitions depending on who you ask
mixing is more seen as audio levels and getting the sound "right"
mastering is more seen, especially nowadays, as finalizing the song and making it loud
you can study either as you please, songwriting takes more creativity most of the time i find
>>64558260
Mixing is the application of balancing, doing levels, panning, apply FX, processing such as EQ and compression, so on and so forth. Mastering is like mixing after the fact but is more about adjusting a mix for different mediums such as CD, radio etc. Mastering can also involve some EQing and compression. Mixing is definitely more important to learn, since they're essentially the same skills except that a good mastering engineer has usually over 20 years of experience in the industry and some very expensive gear and software specifically designed for mastering.
>>64558260
I can't do both songwriting and producing(mixing+mastering) at the same time. Songwriting is 100x more fun, producing is like math class (although satisfying when you get it right).
I recommend songwriting first.
>>64558273
Vaporwave is nice when well made. This honestly isn't, sounds like you've put some effects on a track and just slowed it down. If you want a good example of vaporwave done right look up Yung Bae and Architecture in Tokyo.
https://clyp.it/abuxr2et
Just made this. I know it's lacking oompf but idk what to add to it
>>64558260
>>64558382
I'm this (>>64558364) anon
Depends on what you want to do. Do you want to be an engineer/producer? Then mixing and knowing those skills is more important. Do you want to produce for the purpose of putting your own stuff out? Then focus on songwriting.
>>64558422
thanks for the listen, i honestly didn't like it much either, upon listening to it after a day
>>64558425
Possibly a heavier bass synth with longer transients? You're right, its lacking oomph. Also, you could maybe use a stronger kick to keep the song moving.
>>64558493
The thing with vaporwave is that the good artists usually still write the song completely themselves, then apply all of the effects that the genre is known for. Just attempting to turn another song into it will never produce results of the same quality.
Is there a way to make Kontakt search for missing files/libraries automatically?
I updated to w10 and my file path name changed, so now every time I load an old project kontakt asks for files and I have to manually direct it to the folder, and this is really annoying.
>>64558290
I've noticed you've been recently posting a lot of yotsuba. Any particular reason? Also are you a regular?
>>64558512
Well I'm pretty shit at producing, but I'm always up for suggestions dawg
here's the updated track (so far) and I also sped it back up to the speed it was. I forgot I slowed it down for dramatic effect
https://clyp.it/p5wyaj4s
>>64558955
Yes I'm a regular and just cause I can
just got an sp-555 and its sounding like this. is it fucked up or am i doing something wrong?
https://clyp.it/gwml4ddk
>>64559148
is some kind of effect on or is the sample rate maybe really low? are the outs alright?
>>64559148
>https://clyp.it/gwml4ddk
if theyre just samples from a card then its probably fine
just try sampling other stuff and see how it sounds
>>64559118
Oh, just noticed the .ogg
Guess you're not an old regular
>>64528274
>it's about filtering out low end
this is not right. high-end frequencies do not travel nearly as far as low-end freqs. there can be some variance when environment absorption/reflection is factored in but as a rule of thumb, highs go first.
there's a pretty good max for live device created by robert henke out there that will do this. if someone just wants to approximate the effect manually you're better off using a high-shelf + low pass combo.
>>64559472
Ive been here on and off for a few months, some shit happened so I wasn't here. I'm the one that posted the Discordapp link and the one that tried to help make a thread and the thread accidentally spiraled out of control cause we got into a dumb fight cause the OP was about treating all DAWs equal which we all know is BS
>>64559628
>few months
Exactly. No need to be offended, these threads have been around for years.
>>64556163
>sounds pretty bad
You have shit taste.
>>64559797
I actually assumed he was an old regular that had started tripping for some reason.
>>64559357
>>64559380
I just tried sampling a song on my phone and it still sounds distorted. Starting to get worried now
>>64559797
>>64559939
I'm not even tripping tho. It's just a name I've been using on /g/ and /mu/ and I sorta got noticed so yeah. Even if, I'm not offended, I just wanted you to know I'm not 100% new basically.
I may've been here for almost a year or so, I don't remember when I started but I just stayed here cause this community is really nice to me and not an asshole like others. We should use names here. Not as an attention but since a lot of guys here don't wanna be a chat room, we could at least benefit from it. I would think. I say we should give it a try and see what happens. If it becomes a problem we just stop
>Duplicate file here
FUCK YOU 4CHAN
>>64560548
>We should use names here. [...] If it becomes a problem we just stop
this never works, ever.
What i'm working on atm: https://clyp.it/hkzjx13w sorry for shit mix
>>64560548
atleast youre not soundccloud kid
>>64560627
This is why I hate this community
Fucking /pol/
>>64560059
What kind of levels are you sending to the sampler? If you're plugging a cable into the headphone jack of your phone you'll be sending an amplified signal to the sampler - it might be worth turning the level on the phone down and adjusting the recording level on the sampler to compensate.
https://clyp.it/lztcwxjv
some feedback would be sick
i am fully aware that the very opening transition sounds like shit. i'm more interested in yr opinion on what follows
>>64560654
>Fucking /pol/
what are you on about?
>>64560654
trump hype! #MAGA2K16!
>>64560720
i miss jeb
Posted the beginning of this earlier,
added to it between LoL matches
https://clyp.it/p24rfek4
I feel ok with the overall arrangement I got.
Next up is more automation, changing the progression a bit and add variation to the drums
>>64560635
the overall arrangement is nice, but it doesn't hit hard yet.
keep on it
>>64559483
You're right that high frequencies don't travel as far though, but the only reason people think bass travels a lot farther is because those are the ones you hear in your neighbors system or that car with the boom systems passing by, the thing is that they turn up the bass really high which gives the illusion that it travels farther, but in reality it is just cranked up to compensate.
subbass isn't that audible when close up unless turned up quite high, so it ain't going to be traveling far. The frequencies we're most sensitive too are around the 1-4k khz range, so those should be extenuated.
tips:
Volume - further away, lower the volume
Intelligibility - things that are further away lose their subtleties. You shouldn't hear any clicks, plosives e.g. Ka, Pa, Ta, etc or the the ess sounds of someone speaking. Removing the fundamental frequency of voices helps with this a lot.
environment - you want to give the illusion of space, so choose the right reverb and delay.
stereo - you're more aware of the direction of things that are at a distance. something up close doesn't need to be that dynamic, because it's right there.
>>64560864
me too hombre
me too
>>64560627
I tried at least.
who /cruz/ here?
>>64560548
Pretty sure that is tripping is it not?
Literally no one was tripping here except orchestral guy. I personally like the fact that we are all anons here really, why would it be a good idea to all have names? I don't use the chat either so I am interested
Who /moving to cananada/ here?
>>64561227
You're not even saying or doing anything of interest to the topic of this thread to justify your posts being identifiable.
If you want attention and everything you post being attached to a name, go to reddit or another board where shitposting is welcomed.. If you can't handle being anonymous than you don't belong here.
and stop samefagging, we know it's you
>>64561464
No, this is now tripping. Tripping implies you have a trip code. I have a name.
I was thinking the reason it would be good
Would you like to come to the discord?
>>64561507
Read up above this. I'm not samefagging, cause that would imply I was anon 100%. And I am talking about music, programs and the rest of what's going on. I'm just trying to keep the thread happy. Why is that a big deal anon?
>>64561554
Fair enough, but why do you want/need a name on an anonymous board for anyway?
>>64561691
I've never really liked the concept of anonymous in the first place. Not like an attention whore thing, I just like names. Which is why I kept Anonymous but with .ogg so I could just barely standout. It's like going to a festival where everyone is wearing black but I'm wearing a touch of red going down the side of it. I forget what it's called but my chef jacket has it.
the rim?
>>64561554
>I'm not samefagging, cause that would imply I was anon 100%
Oh, I hadn't realized that once you type in a name in that field it is permanently attached to your 4chan account.
>I'm just trying to keep the thread happy. Why is that a big deal anon?
I'm sure like you're perfectly aware of how you'd be samefagging, you're also aware of how people don't appreciate attention-whoring, being a tripfag/namefag unnecessarily, and posting anime pictures.
What you're doing is shit-posting, nothing more.
And this is my last response because I've added you to my filter.
kill your self.
>>64561771
>>64561771
>Oh, I hadn't realized that once you type in a name in that field it is permanently attached to your 4chan account.
don't you dare tell any one anon!
Why are you so mean anon? what did I do to you? I literally didn't even do anything to make you mad on purpose. Get over yourself anon. For god sakes, it's the fucking internet, it's not like im PURPOSELY shit posting. I'm here to talk about music, production, give what tips I can, and ask for help on occasion. you're just an asshole cause you can't get over the fact someone is doing something you don't like.
Again, get over it and grow up, if namefagging was a big ass deal, they could of easily removed it and added ID's back now couldn't they right? OK then
>>64561864
>could of
ok now you're putting yourself into filter territory
>>64561771
>What you're doing is shit-posting, nothing more.
Glottal agree with you here. It seems everytime I read something here that's a total shit post or is someone giving out advice when they seem to not know what the hell they are on about it seems to have anonymous.ogg attached to it.
The description of what DAWs are good for what is a classic example, ogg has quite clearly only ever used fruity loops. The rest of their posts are just shitposting for attention IMO.
>>64562104
I'm just sayin is all
>>64562124
I'm giving you exactly what I know. Why would I care for attention? Get over yourself and grow up. If any one else said it, you wouldn't care.
You care way to much about a fucking imageboard if you seriously believe this. Are you 12 or something? Cause you're acting like a child
>Stop doing things I don't like!
>>64562212
Mate have a read of every post in this thread that has your name attached to it, then decide for yourself "is this post helpful or am I just shitposting?"
>are you 12 or somethings?
No I'm not, are you? If not why are you spamming children's cartoons on a /prod/ thread...again not relivent.
>>64562382
>am I shit posting?
No, I am asking how you're doing, and so on. I've answered questions for people if I think I have the answer. I'm sorry anon but I want to be nice, I want to be helpful, I want to see how people are doing and try to be helpful. Sorry you don't like this idea.
>children cartoon
1 manga
2
>dissing Yotsuba
You don't even like 4chan do you to insult it's mascot like that, do you anon? At that point, you basically said you hate 4chan. If all you do is be an asshole in the first place, why are you here? Just google your questions, goto 1 of those stupid forums and read answers. At least those people are helpful and nice most of the time.
>>64561098
as i understand it high frequencies are attenuated significantly more than bass and sub bass frequencies:
https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Engineering_Acoustics/Outdoor_Sound_Propagation#Attenuation_by_atmospheric_absorption.5B5.5D_.5B6.5D_.5B7.5D
i would like to see a graph with equal loudness compensation but i'll still stand by the assertion that you'd have some high frequency loss over distance.
>>64562474
not him but all those other forums are shit as fuck like kvr and gearslutz
always faggots trying to start shit there
>>64562655
I've never seen it prolly cause I've only googled a handful of issues.
Most of the time it's something tech related, look for my answer and I leave. If there's a lot of arguing, where the hell are the mods?
>>64562761
they are basically shills
if you have a problem with ilok or whatever copy protection you will get shit on by mods even and other users accusing you of being a pirate
its pretty cancerous
>>64562474
>dissing Yotsuba
Right...ok then. So I'm dissing 4chan now because I don't know it's mascot is some important child's cartoon?
To be fair I don't use the rest of 4chan. I come here because I like it. I too give advice on subjects I know about. I give feedback on clyp.its. I post prod related content not weeb cartoons, pretty sure there's another image board on 4chan for exactly that?
>>64562897
one of those etlitest(?) forums where if you don't buy it you're not a real musician basically?
sounds dumb.
can you fucking idiots stop shitting up this thread with pointless posts about yotsubaposter.
>>64562927
If you've been here long enough you'd know it.
We both do the same things here, why not just drop and get along?
Who cares if I posted Yotsuba, the point is, I'm trying to keep the air in this place light and nice. But you want to shit on it and make an argument out of nothing. There's no point to this argument cause both are opinions anyways.
I bet all you wanna do is be mean to people don't you anon?
>>64562986
this thank you anon.
>>64563024
>this thank you anon.
Jeeezuz fucking christ! Do you think they might have ment you as its you that's posting Yotsuba?
>>64563209
Yes, I know that too. I'm just agreeing with you anon. Is it now a problem to agree with people all of a sudden?
tfw if you click inside the rectangle i put it plays the highest note
also has anyone used retrolouge 2
>>64563450
what is the advantage of a soft synth like that as opposed to something like serum?
>>64563827
serum is completley different with wavetables
this is just a regular va synth and serum can probably do everything it does
>>64561088
It's generic, but sexy. The production is great, but the hook is lacking
>>64564275
>It's generic, but sexy
thanks :3
>The production is great
it turned out okay so far, but atleast 20% of it was luck.
>but the hook is lacking
ye, it's what I'll look into next, but I guess for the amount of time I spent so far, I've already gotten quite a bit of the song done
>>64563209
>posts ABOUT yotsubaposter
probably not you shit-eating illiterate
lil interlude probably on my ep im working on
as usual i cant tell if it sounds lofi or just bad so i need to know if im on the right track in terms of sounding intentionally shitty
https://clyp.it/zs0bow13
where do you guys find studio quality acapellas?
i have a really hard time finding them
preferably female pop vocals
ty mates
>>64547523
What synth did you use for the sound? Pretty cool sound, you could turn it into something decent
hey guys, how do you feel about this? i was trying to make something with a water vibe
>https://clyp.it/ekuse15z
