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>a rolling stone writer said this
>>64321588
people were praising Bowie for having a large number of writers writing for him?
>>64321588
how many writers did Bowie have? Eno, Fripp etc. all did large portions of their work with him but albums like Station to Station are just his own work
These are both "professional" music writers saying this shit. What the fuck.
>>64321727
haha look at their faces
>>64321727
HMM HOW INTERESTING THAT IN THE UNITED STATES WHERE 7 OUT OF 10 PEOPLE ARE WHITE YOU WOULD NOTICE A LOT OF WHITE MEN SAYING SOMETHING
>>64321727
lmao lmao
You guys are just sad
>>64321727
>who seem to all be white guys
SHE'S FUCKING WHITE WHAT THE FUCK
somebody make an image of the Bowie credits next to the Beyonce album credits and send it to them
>>64321886
hi jes skolnik or j. escobedo shepherd
>>64321588
Proof that modern music critics are talentless hacks who care more about social justice than critically looking at an album
>>64321913
i don't have a twitter but here's the link:
https://twitter.com/alshipley/status/724349703006105600
>>64321727
>jezebel writers
>>64321890
white people in america are always trying to one-up other white people.
>>64321929
Marcel is the only smart one out there who actually cares about the music desu. He will guide us to a new era.
>>64321913
Oh my god somebody please do this.
>>64321727
>lmao
Who uses "lmao" anymore? "lmbo" is more current. These cunts think they're hip and have their finger on the pulse of culture?
>>64321961
>>64321913
If I did this would they dox me?
>>64321727
Can "lmao lmao" be a meme?
>>64322004
no.
>>64322001
lmdo
>>64322004
It would be extremely painful. I hope you're big enough to handle it.
>mfw MRA Mantano will go against the cuck grain and give a low score to piss people off
>>64321890
>I'm not like all those other white people. I am aware of my privilege and hate my people for what they did. Hahaha watch me mock white boys
>>64322027
>>64322023
I just think they'll say it's hate speech and get my account deleted
>>64322041
I think you mean Marcel. We were hyping/anticipating his upcoming review in the last thread.
>>64322042
I'm a leftist and a liberal but you're right lots of white liberals are like this
>>64322065
why would you get your account deleted? literally nothing would happen to you if you did that.
just tweet it. nothing that serious would ever happen.
>>64322026
Whoa there. lmdo is transphobic, mister.
>>64322093
leftists aren't liberals
>>64322114
Sorry, I meant lmngsgo (laughing my non gender specific genitalia off)
>>64322093
yup im hardcore a leftist and would probs be called a filthy SJW by lots of people but white people going out of their way to insult and belittle other white people for being white is one of the whitest things ever.
>>64322065
Fucking do it jesus christ.
>>64322065
why the fuck would you get your account deleted??
>>64322093
I don't expect anyone on /mu/ to not be left leaning since most people here are 17-25 college kids
>>64322004
>>64322065
DO YOU NOT KNOW HOW TWITTER WORKS HOLY SHIT
>>64322093
>>64322142
Same, I'm a hardcore liberal. It grosses me out to see other white people go on these crusades on the behalf of minority groups. Typical white savior complex.
what's the point? please explain
>>64322208
Yes but this is also 4chan
I don't understand why /mu/ is so liberal compared to a board like /fa/ where they're just as racist as the rest of the site
What is it about you faggots?
>>64322212
Are you really surprised people on 4chan don't have social media accounts?
I don't have any friends. A lot of people here do not have friends.
>>64322231
>I'm not like those other liberals :^)
>>64322267
I always notice people who are more in to music tend to be more liberal, could someone explain to me why?
I mean there's definitely a middle ground lol. You don't have to be a "one man band" and do everything yourself, but having a bunch of professional writers, producers, and instrumentalists write and compose pretty much every aspect of the songs is not the same as what Brian Wilson did on Pets Sounds or Eno's and Wonder's work (yes people are comparing them to Beyonce in the replies)
>>64322231
The absolute worst thing the internet has done is give a voice to these fucking idiots who think talking about politics on twitter makes a fucking difference. You fucking build a constituency based on the things you want to change, and you run for fucking office. This complaining on the internet does FUCK ALL.
>>64322267
/fa/ probably would be anti racist if it wasn't so popular.
>Marcel
the person who recorded this shit once:
https://clyp.it/l2b0k4xq
>>64322267
4chan in general used to be fairly liberal. Sure, there was racism, but it was mostly humor. None of the unabashed bigotry and vitriol you have on neo-4chan.
This obsession with traditional conservative values and calling everything degenerate is a new development. It's a worldview that would get you laughed off of 4chan pre-2010.
>>64322304
probably because they think they're some kind of big shot intellectual or something
come to think of it that's probably why
music really is terrible
>>64322336
It's a lot less popular than /mu/
>>64322353
You can't even make racist jokes on /mu/ without triggering someone anymore
>>64322320
TFW a 'progressive' told me to kill myself because I asked what he does to help minorities in real life and off the internet
>>64322267
we still have a shred of integrity
we're obnoxious hipsters but we're not fucking racists
being a racist locks you out of enjoying like 70% of music anyway
>>64321727
IT'S HAPPENING
>>64322386
typically a lot of people who are progressive and claim to be outraged by bigotry never actually help the causes they claim to support. probably because it's easy to moan on the internet than actually do something meaningful.
>>64322386
>tfw minority and get told to kill myself on 4chan because I'm a minority
>>64322456
Everyone already knows she used a variation of a line from my girls
>>64322272
Hmmm I wonder why? Maybe because they fucking freak out over fucking beyonce of all people. It's a pop album. People like it. Why are there like 9 threads about it with nothing but beyonce hate? Why can't mu just ignore her and go talk about deak or some shit?
>>64322353
Do you remember when they called those people stormfags? Now everyone is a stormfag
>>64322490
It'll be okay eric
>>64322417
>being a racist locks you out of enjoying like 70% of music anyway
I'm a racist but I'm not too retarded to not be able to separate politics from music, nigger
>>64322506
>>64322456
I don't even know why they needed to credit that to them though. It's pretty tenuous - all she said was "material things" and it's not even an actual sample...
>>64321913
Here's an image of the credits toghter if anyone with twitter want to use it
>>64321727
why do white women always emphasize the "white" guy part? they're white devils too
>>64322386
>volunteered in community kitchens and pantries for the homeless and working class families
>volunteered for English language tutoring services for immigrants
>volunteered to organize rallies
>mfw I get told by an Internet slacktivist that I'm not doing anything to solve issues
I guess I can't be a real liberal if I don't have a hashtag or thousands of twitter followers.
>>64322565
FUCKING TWEET IT ALREADY:
https://twitter.com/alshipley/status/724349703006105600
>>64322559
Fear
They know anco don't placate darkies
>>64322553
>I'm a racist
>nigger
wow really laying it on thick with the edge there bucko
>>64322267
>just as racist as the rest of the site
Just because nigger is thrown around doesn't make this place neo-stormfront, most posters don't give a fuck about it
Marcel or die
#getbehindmarcel
>>64322603
what are you going to do about it? redirect me to /pol/?
>>64322559
probably out of honesty or artistic solidarity
>>64322527
A lot of these threads are being spammed by /pol/ leakage.
>talking race politics on a nepalese whistling bulletin board
just as bad as talking about it on twitter
>>64322615
I never said the whole site was /pol/ tier, but nobody else gets upset like /mu/ does if somebody calls kendrick Lamar a monkey
>>64322572
>b-but my subjugation at the hands of men
>well, not mine, but people I've read about
>>64322636
I think you misunderstand, I don't give a shit, your "racism" means literally nothing to me.
he's objectively right, though?
it's no secret that david bowie relied on other a lot for his music?
>>64322490
New season when
Theres a difference between collaborating with other artists as equals and sharing credit, and sampling and plagiarising other artists' work and then add their name to the credits simply as a legal obligation
>>64322703
are those questions or a statements?
>>64322702
okay then stop replying, I never asked for your approval you cuck
>>64322597
This.
If you were a black person, would you piss Panda off? Have you not read the things this man has done?
>>64322703
I mean my favorite david bowie album relies massively on the support of brian eno so collaboration or support in art doesn't particularly bother me. but if somebody actually tries to put bowie and beyonce on the same level in terms of receiving songwriting assistance they're very wrong. And I do like beyonce's music btw.
>>64322644
>honesty or artistic solidarity
i don't see what there is to be honest about, really. do anco somehow have a claim on the phrase "material things"? not falling prey to consumerist ideals or materialism is also a pretty common subject in music.
>>64321588
>jes skolnik
lel, i remember when this self-involved cunt tried to make a name for herself on pitchfork by writing an op-ed calling out a noise rock band which had then just put out an LP in a whopping edition of 500 copies for having "problematic" themes in their music
nobody bit
fuck that slag
>>64322677
It's not all the same.
>I'm going to call Kendrick Lamar a moneky because I'm an edgy teen and I think it's funny.
That' stupid, but it's not the same as.
>KENDRICK LAMAR IS A NIGGER. HE IS PUSHING FOR WHITE GENOCIDE. ANY WHITE PERSON WHO LIKES HIS MUSIC IS BETRAYING HIS RACE! ALSO, HAVE I USED THE WORD KEK YET? KEK!!!!
You have to be pretty stupid to not see why people get tired of your /pol/ shit.
>>64322771
he's truly one scary dude for non-whites
>>64322731
>you cuck
Keep throwing out buzzwords, I'm just giving you the tiny bit of attention you seek when you post your cool internet words like nigger and cuck.
>>64322582
stop using things like 'community kitchens' and 'volunteering' to hide the fact you aren't joining us in the social media revolution
>>64322798
>he actually went for the le /pol/ boogeyman meme
Nice job now we all know that you're an idiot
>>64322857
Keep replying, cuck
>>64322582
This tbqh, fuck zernie panders
t. a minority
>Jes Skolnik
How old is this fucking creature?
I figured she was in her early 20s but she legit looks like she's pushing a (quite undignified) 40.
Why do all these yuppie white Twitter "personalities"/scenester Pitchfork-writer wannabes look so drained of life?
>>64322786
You bit you moron
>>64322953
how so? by mentioning it on 4chan like two years later? pffft.
>>64322938
I would say because they have no life, but I'm posting on 4chan, so it'd be hypocritical.
>>64322786
well, the fact that you remembered that disposable article and the fact that she wrote it shows that she at least made an impact on you mate
do pitchfork even have black writers? if so, how many compared to the white ones? if lemonade is a very black album and based on the experience of black women then maybe they should actually have a black woman review and talk about the fucking thing rather than a white person saying "wow white people what r u doing!!"
i'm a liberal but i'm anti-pc, anti-feminism, and anti sjw bullshit.
i believe we're already equal and at this point people are looking past equality
>>64323050
you're giving pitchfork too much credit, they write grabbing headlines that get shared on twitter despite the articles saying nothing and going nowhere
>>64322786
Is that the one about Rectal Hygienics? I forgot about that. All I can say is that if you're unknown Noise Rock band's lyrics can offend someone enough to write an article about it in a widely-read online publication then you've probably succeeded at what you tried to do.
>2016
>being a liberal
>>64322938
damn shes ugly
her hair is bad too
>>64322385
>You can't even make racist jokes on /mu/ without triggering someone anymore
oh no what a shame
>>64323174
>not being a liberal
>still mentioning [current year]
>>64323174
>Being a conservative
>Voting against what's best for you because you consider yourself a temporarily embarrassed millionaire
>Voting against what's best for you because conservative figures have brainwashed you to think that minority groups are ruining your life
>>64322565
Led Zep has writing credits the fuck? Sampling, covering?
>>64322818
Eat a dick tripfag
>>64322093
I'm the same; helping the poor, fucking the rich and equality for everyone is my jam. But americans are fucking crazy and have to take everything to extreme. In europe it's only the right that a crazy. These extremists ruin our fight for equality by taking it too far where people can't express themselves anymore...like we should 100% get rid of institutional racism, not attack the white guy with dreadlocks.
back to the music https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqH_0LPVoho
>>64323285
this, tbqh
KEK WHITE BOYS BTFO
>>64323285
shut up and let me watch my transformers bluray you cuck
>>64322353
The dynamic flipped. Racism wasn't the big hotbutton it is now. Used to people would just laugh off racism and accept it as just part of the trolling game. Now people get so offended by everything that racism is edgy as fuck again. 4chan also used to be filled with wierdos into weird shit and did weird shit to piss people off. Now that everything taboo is being brought into social acceptance by liberals, traditional values are the new way to lash out.
Traditional values are the new counter culture. The kids of these hardcore liberals will rebel by becoming fox news republicans.
>>64323480
>Now that everything taboo is being brought into social acceptance by liberals
like what?
>>64323422
>even comparing bowie and beyonce
lel
>>64323285
>free market is bad for you
>welfare is sustainable
>if you vote conservative you are le racist!!
Please actually do some research, you are a fucking idiot
>>64323480
>le social conservatism is under attack meme
wew
he is right though
mick ronson wrote a large part of the spiders from mars era tune with bowie just doing lyrics
bowie himself said ronson wrote almost all of the album the man who sold the world
>>64323504
Transgender, polyamorous relationships, anti-STD shaming, removing the stigma from pedophiles, fetish culture being taught during sex weeks on college campuses, cuckoldry, "sex workers" rights, acceptance of whoring yourself out as a viable way of making money.
>>64322565
>HOL UP
kek how is there not a song called "WE WUZ KANGS N QUEENZ"
>>64323422
wow, they failed us
>>64321588
lol lemme find out people who never mentioned Prince now have him in their dp
>>64323285
>being a progressive
>voting based on how you want to be portrayed in future history books rather than based on policy
>having no understanding of economy and voting solely based on social policies
>ruining your country because john oliver told you that its important for insane people to be allowed to piss in the wrong stall
>>64323620
That's not fucking at all what I'm saying you cocksucker. 4chan has always been contrarian. The racism here became more serious the more people began seeing racism in everything.
>>64322267
4chan is inherently counter culture. There is a current culture of liberalism so 4chan instinctively acts against that. Most people who post here are 17-25, most people between 17 and 25 who don't post here hate Trump, for example, so people who post here "like" Trump
>>64323775
I think it's just people here enjoy being edgy
>>64323767
>Traditional values are the new counter culture
?
>>64323698
None of those are bad things in the average liberal's eyes.
These aren't anomalous agendas pushed under the guise of liberalism: those are THE core liberal agendas.
>>64323788
Counter culture is usually viewed as edgy by the people on the outside of it. Also filtered :^)
>>64321727
>who seem to all be white guys
i hate the jews
>>64323811
Hes right, when was the last time you saw a prime time show extolling the values of sex after marriage and the nuclear family. Last one in memory is the cosby show t b h
>>64323826
I didn't say bad. I said taboo. Regardless of how you feel about these things they have always been on the fringe of society.
>>64321727
two giant pairs of problem-glasses taking up their pic-frame lmao lmao
>>64321727
White guys strike again!
>>64322565
hip hop artists tend to be really generous with giving people credits. pretty sure someone like soulja boy having a credit just means that he got coffee or something
>>64323811
that makes sense. liberalism and the progressive dogma is absolutely the mainstream media's (and therefore public consciousness') ideology of choice, so those who go against in in the form of right wing extremism would probably be fascist, which places emphasis on traditional values
>>64323910
Beyonce is not a hip hop artist but I guess where you're going, Frank Ocean credited his dog as a producer.
>>64323852
Not all black people were kings and queens of tribes. The vast majority of them were slaves. White people could say they were kings and queens too because most of europe had monarchies but the majority of them were probably poor farmers.
>>64323285
>Conservatism
>against our interests
wew lad I bet you also believe that leftism is still the counterculture
>>64323698
I'd say half of those things liberals don't generally support. I think the sample group you're pulling from might be on the more extremist side, but they don't represent the majority of people's beliefs.
>>64324009
>>64323826
>These things are the core liberal agendas
>The average liberal doesn't care about these things
*record scratch*
HOL UP
white men
>>64324074
mfw nobody liked the remix
>>64321588
Is this really a surprise to anyone? Rolling Stone has been bad longer than most of the posters itt have been alive.
>>64324074
*sucks air through teeth*
SO YOU BE SAYIN
>>64324094
PAAAAAATRIAAAARRRRRCHYYYYYYYYY!
>>64323994
None of us were alive in medieval times u fucking retard. We all have thousands if not millions of people from those times that we descend from directly. It would be weird if you didnt have any royal ancestry
>>64324062
I have literally never heard a liberal advocating for the rights of pedophiles or "fetish culture" being taught in schools, and stuff like polyamorous relationships make up a very small percentage (and I'd say just as many conservatives support it because religion). Even if a select and vocal minority champion those positions/issues, they're hardly the core agendas.
>>64323994
if you go back far enough most people are probably descended from royalty since only the elite of men had harems
something like 1:23 men:woman ratio back in egyptian times procreated
>>64323698
>acceptance of whoring yourself out as a viable way of making money
It's been viable for the better part of 5,000 years.
>>64324163
http://yournewswire.com/nintendo-specialist-publicly-advocates-pedophilia-in-shocking-speech/
Her twitter account was also used to complain about patriarchy and "white dudes" and etc before she eventually got fired for doing nudes
>>64324144
Thats the fucking point you mouth breather. Saying you WIZ KANGS N SHEIT is pointless.
>>64324122
*furiously starts drafting a new post on the pitch*
THESE CACS BE LIKE
"DAVID BOWIE BETTA THAN QUEEN B"
DAVID
BOWIE
Y'ALL
NIGGA SO WHITE HE PRACTICALLY TRANSPARENT
S M D H F A M
>>64324214
One outspoken person suddenly is the voice for an entire political alignment and ideology? You can cherrypick issues from any side, it doesn't make it a widely accepted and endorsed viewpoint. I could go on twitter and find a variety of wackos with messed up philosophies, I'm not gonna go making broad generalization based of them, though.
>>64324318
>One outspoken person suddenly is the voice for an entire political alignment and ideology?
I never said that. The post said they literally never heard a liberal advocating for pedophiles, and I gave an example.
>someone has the nerve to compare Bowie to fucking Beyonce
Are you sure these people are real music critics??
>>64324386
ikr
just bcuz le wacky space man dies he's everywhere
no 1 be like
'nigga u old'
lmao
>>64324339
Fair enough, but the original poster who brought it up was implying that it was socially accepted amongst liberals and that's simply not the case. I can't think of any political affiliation where it's orthodox.
>>64323285
holy fuck progressives are the worst because they pretend like minority conservatives don't exist
>Professional music critics
>Fiercely defending mass produced pop swill
How much are you willing to bet these people are receiving favours on the side?
>>64322007
Pls post on based [s4s]
>>64321727
>both wearing trigger glasses
wew lad
Rolling Stone is terrible. Why would you people even care?
>>64324485
and then there's this nigga........
>>64321727
l m a o
>>64323422
/mu/ BTFO
I'M SO GLAD AS AN OPPRESSED MINORITY THERE'S ALWAYS AN INSUFFERABLE WHITE WOMAN (SOMETIMES MAN) TO DEFEND ME FROM THE EVIL WHITE (ALWAYS MAN) SPECIALLY ON TWITTER, WHERE THE REVOLUTION IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO HAPPEN FIRST
>>64323422
this Al Shirpley dude is right by the way. music credits are completely different nowadays. just being in the room will get you a writer's credit. but i don't expect /mu/ actually know anything about music. stick to your memes, kids.
>>64324285
POUR SOME COFFEE ON THAT CAC
>>64324701
white women are your saviors
deal with it
>>64323937
>>64323858
I agree that it might be more powerful in the media, but when it comes to the establishment and actual governing bodies it hasn't
/mu/
I have a serious question. What happened to white people? I'm Hispanic and came to this country over 25 years ago and I've seen the white race turn into the biggest limp-wristrd faggots I've ever seen. It's so embarrassing to watch you guys turn into this.
>>64324809
niggers happened
>>64321929
true that
>>64323422
White boys NEVER know what they're talking about.
>>64324809
fashionable 'progressives' misconstrued the last half century of left thought and castrated it enough for it to become trendy
how does this tweet make you feel /mu/?
>>64321588
Wow, more proof that Rolling Stone is completely retarded. Bowie wrote most of his songs on his own, Beyonce has never written a song without a co-writer and a ton of her songs have a ridiculously large number of co-writers.
>>64323422
A better example would have been Diamond Dogs or Young Americans
>>64321588
>>64321727
i mean they're not wrong.......
>>64324894
very 2016
>>64324894
"Stop making me hope Beyounce dies tomorrow"
>>64324894
confused
>>64324894
She will get triple the coverage, since she's on her way to becoming a real legend like MJ and Prince.
Poor Bowie is in a league below them.
>>64324894
Making me wish for Beyonce's sudden death.
>>64324894
why do you guys spend your time searching through dumb people's twitters to trigger yourselves? who cares what some random retard says? you got nothing better to do?
>>64323422
Goddamn it, you memers fucked up. You should've used Blackstar as an example instead of Ziggy Stardust. Blackstar is 100% Bowie except for one song.
>>64325000
honestly? no otherwise I wouldn't be on /mu/
>>64324894
Glad that there will be one less idiot in the world.
>>64323752
>having no understanding of economy and voting solely based on social policies
Wow, that sounds exactly like the altright retards from /pol/
why don't we talk about music? rolling stone magazine isn't music, nor it never cared about music.
Why are you all so surprised about the stupidity of bullshit critics?
ffs this board...half the posts is dick measuring and teh other half is talking about irrelevant stuff. was 4chan always like this? this shit looks like facebook.
>>64321727
WHITE MAN SPEAK
WITH FORKED TOUNGEEE!!!
I made a brand new image. Someone tweet this at the faggots. This is your chance to redeem yourself, /mu/.
>>64321727
lmao a trannie
>>64324742
I love it, being sarcastic, antagonizing people, being annoying to a fault, the civil rights movement would be so proud of the Twitter activist
There's nothing more attractive than a white woman who is ALSO a shallow, stupid social media politicker.
/mu/ - Politically Incorrect
>>64325196
>beyonce btfo
no one is going to give a shit. let it go.
>>64325209
the common enemy is the white male. destroy them at all costs.
>>64321588
>David Bowie
>wrote his own songs, multioctave singer, played the guitar, the keyboard, harmonica, saxophone, stylophone, viola, cello, koto, thumb piano, and drums
>Beyonce
>needs forty people to write one song, plays no instruments, makes sure to reference several different fashion lines and consumer products in each one of her songs
Modern media criticism is an inbred circle of upper middle class progressives trying to prove to one another that they're the most open-minded and tolerant of commercial entertainment. They usually have no formal skill and no independent ideas, but lots of safe ones that they make sure to run by everybody else first.
Are you confused by the increasing frequency of albums, films, literature, and television programs that receive "universal acclaim" nowadays? Then stop reading Metacritic, the AV Club, Pitchfork and Rotten Tomatoes, and the rest of their ilk, because the establishment critics that contribute to these sites are generally incapable of independent thought.
If you want intelligent media criticism, you're going to have to make the effort to seek out academic writing, cheap and word-heavy blogs, and the opinions of actual artists making the media you're interested in.
"I can be le femenist to, please fuck me"
>>64325196
relying on wikipedia credits is fucking stupid to be honest cause the credits often times are wrong.
Also, I'm pretty sure the bass player said that he wrote the intro to the track Lazarus
>>64325262
Is that retard implying that Courtney didn't ride Kurt's coattails? She would've never become a mainstream success if she wasn't married to Kurt.
>>64325262
You should tweet them Bjork and Kate Bush, then tell them to shut the fuck up
>>64325341
yeah she's a bad example for that guy to bring up. she basically rode kurt's coattails, then corgan's after kurt died.
>>64322041
If he does that, I will, for once, agree with the faggot.
>Al Shipley
Writes for Baltimore City Paper, Complex, Rolling Stone, Noisey, etc.
>J. Escobedo Shepherd
Writes for Jezebel and Rookie Mag.
>Jes Skolnik
Writes for Bandcamp and Pitchfork.
This is the future of our music critics and what they believe in /mu/. Beware.
>>64322353
4chan is and always has been a counterculture website, no matter what normalfags nowadays try to say. back in the dubya era, the site was a lot more liberal because the climate of america was a lot more conservative. under obama, the climate is much, much, much more liberal. and people are reacting to it. funny how i remember people calling him "brobama", that shit wouldn't fly today. 4chan's political alignment will sway in the opposite direction of whatever the president's is. if trump gets elected, maybe the site will become more liberal again. if shillary wins, expect more of the same.
>>64321727
M U H
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SOMEONE JUST SAID THIS IN RESPONSE TO MARCEL
I wonder how based Marcel will respond.
>>64323380
>In europe it's only the right that a crazy
>the european right
>crazy
>DUDE LET'S IMPORT THE ENTIRE THIRD WORLD LMAO WHAT COULD GO WRONG, DON'T LIKE IT? U A NAZI OR SMTH BRO???
versus
>maybe we shouldn't
>>64325560
Wow, I never thought I would side with Marcel. That JohnOBrien guy is a massive faggot.
>>64325560
>the most important pop music right now
No. Not even close to that.
Beyoncé is only getting attention because she's being socially conscious and people recently have been on this annoying wave of thinking that if an album comments on something socially than its a 10/10.
>>64325560
this is why i dont use rym
>>64325560
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA BASED MARCEL
>>64325660
damn marcel bringing the bantz
>>64325660
holy shit
i never would have expected marcel to go against the p4k-approved grain like this 3 years ago, but he's come a long way. based.
>>64321588
You're obligated to credit someone if they even so much as improve a line/bar.
>>64325660
Holy fuck Marcel actually got smart
>>64325000
>you got nothing better to do?
>as he posts on 4chan
fuck off redditor
>>64321588
is that in english? i literally can't read that
>>64325609
>Beyoncé is only getting attention because she's being socially conscious and people recently have been on this annoying wave of thinking that if an album comments on something socially than its a 10/10
kek, he literally says this when she received the same, if not more acclaim when she released Sex: the album.
>>64325769
what
>>64325660
kek
>>64325660
IS MARCEL BECOMING OUR GUY????
i always saw this kind of potential in marcel. no matter how lefty fucking shit he went, he was always reluctant to hate himself for being white, like his contemporaries anthony fantano and pitchfork. is this his awakening?
>>64321727
posting in le epic thread xDDDD
>>64325660
BASED MARCEL
>>64325840
oh wow, great input fagtron, and you're just so above it all? give me a fucking break
>>64325660
top kek m8
>>64325560
>she represent the voice of a group often silenced in several facets of life.
So is he just ignoring every black female singer from the last 60 years?
>that comment section
holy fuck rym is sjw central
>>64325660
damn
marcel found a way
>>64321929
>modern music critics are talentless hacks
lel just modern?
>>64324809
I, too, am Hispanic and have seen the same happen to our people. Mainly from those at around college age.
>>64325884
>last 60 years
>right now
And "every" is a huge stretch. Not every black singer makes tunes about social issues.
Based Marcel BTFO out of /r/indieheads on his Twitter.
>>64326096
LMFAOOOOOO
BASED MARCEL
>>64321878
closer to 6 out of 10 now.
TICK TOCK WHITEY ;) Brazil is about 25 years away!
>>64326096
that comment he posted a picture of is maximum cringe holy fuck
>>64325168
underrated
>>64326096
Why when a large group of people like something, there are angry people desperately trying to prove why they shouldn't?
>>64326096
likes my weird music? lmao
>>64326176
what do you mean?
>>64326096
likes my weird music
>>64326096
dude likes my weird music lmao
>>64325560
proof that spiderland cucks are plebs
beyonce sucks
>>64326309
you can bet your sweet ass she does
>>64326309
/thread
of all the popular artists she is hands down the most boring, shittiest one.
100% dull music
>>64326096
kek
>>64326200
That guy's posts all read as "it's not that great!! don't think the album is great!!".
Like, whoa man.
>>64326507
wtf are you talking about
>>64326390
and i want to fuck her ass
>>64323380
>In europe it's only the right that a crazy
In Europe, leftist German politicians openly celebrate the future extinction of the German people. In Europe, rape in Sweden increased 11% in just one year as a result of leftist immigration policies. In Europe, it is illegal to vocally oppose unfiltered mass immigration into your country. In Europe, leftist governments and government-run media will deliberately coverup mass rapes committed by brown people.
I'm sorry but European leftists have gone much, much, much further than American leftists.
>>64325660
Why is everybody celebrating?
That's a weak reply.
>>64326693
it just shows that he's not an idiot unlike most other music critics
>>64322304
because music is emotional, and people who are conservative obviously lack emotional depth (rationalizing why poor people should struggle, why races should be ranked against one another, etc. etc. etc.)
Holy shit this album is bad (Beyonce's that is)
>>64326941
yes but i'd totally fuck her ass
>>64325000
Its the 4chan mentality
>making myself angry is so edgy and cool!
>>64326840
>people who are conservative obviously lack emotional depth
:^)
>>64326096
ya he really seems to hate r/indieheads
>>64322093
I'm a "right-wing hippie" so I don't give a fuck.
>>64327024
who could blame him? that place sucks
>>64325560
people who always say things like this (are overly concerned with protecting the 'underprivileged') always have a very certain way of typing and presenting their arguments that really irritates me. they talk as if they know and interpret everything perfectly
>>64326693
it's better than going on a long triggered rant
honestly that post doesn't deserve a well thought out reply
>>64325660
A real human bean, and a real hero
>>64327162
this
I also cant believe that now Marcel might actually be worth posting about here other than his shilling tendencies
>>64327290
hi Marcel
>>64327290
i can definitely see him blowing up within the next few years. as time goes on, of course.
>>64326096
that comment is cringe as fuck but his need to post it on twitter and then keep going on about it for another two tweets might be even worse
>>64325560
>if you aren't a black woman you can't comment on this album
>he proceeds to comment on the album
Hol up, when did Marcel become anti-SJW? A little over a year ago he was a typical pitchfork drone who regurgitated all of the stupid white privilege nonsense.
>>64327315
you don't even know your own irony anymore
>>64327315
hey bb ;)
>>64327330
It's possible for a person to discuss the concept of disparity between races and not be retarded
I don't know if that's what he did though, I don't keep up with his shit
>>64327330
I don't think he's become anti-SJW he's just a sensible person.
>>64327324
he's actually the first music critic i can think of who has broken the recent mould set by SJW publications like p4k and stereogum and is actually unique and doing his own thing without any SJW nonsense without being blatantly "i'm anti-SJW." that's what makes me feel he's going to be huge when he's an adult because he stands out.
>>64322456
>Led Zep and Jack White credit
what's going on here?
>>64328757
The Led Zep credit is the 'When the Levee Breaks' drum break being sampled on that track, nothing else.
>>64322582
>Hosting a syrian refugee family
Guess I'm a trump voting swine.
>>64324754
disregarding the fact that american republicans and democrats are nearly the same in many aspects, you are mistaken if you think that society, collectively, pays the most attention to the "reality" of the governing party. we are much more interested and entertained by the media, which is overwhelmingly liberal. this is why news networks do their best to dress up the droll, boring politics into a battle, into entertainment that can be fed to us since that is what we understand- is pleasure and stimulation by being amused. hence why we focus entirely on the personality and characteristics of a candidate rather than their actual content, plans, ideas.
we live to be entertained. anything else does not matter, it's all about the image. and if the image is boring, we don't care.
>>64328925
I agree with all that, but you still missed the point of my post, which is that when it comes to actual lawmaking things are only just now shifting towards being socially liberal
>>64323084
>i'm a liberal
kill yourself.
Which one of you fuckers did this
>>64329069
kek
>>64321727
problem glasses every fucking where
why do white people have zero chill about LITERALLY EVERYTHING jesus fuck you guys are so excessive with it all wtf
MARCEL GOING BACK IN
>>64329196
this was in response to someone bashing a person who hated Lemonade but had a LUM album rated 5 stars btw
>>64329173
that's how we made our millions
>>64329196
now this is just dumb, he was actually btfoing people before but now he's just going 'my taste > your taste lol :^)'
>>64321727
lmao lmao
>>64322140
top of the keks
>>64324809
>I have a serious question. What happened to white people? I'm Hispanic and came to this country over 25 years ago and I've seen the white race turn into the biggest limp-wristrd faggots I've ever seen. It's so embarrassing to watch you guys turn into this.
liberalism/progeressivism/socialism/communism
mental disorders 2bh
>>64329287
no he was sticking up for someone else
>>64323752
>no understanding of the economy
I'm sorry but what? Economists don't espouse typical conservative economic rhetoric, partially because the conservative establishment (the establishment, not conservatives in general) doens't want to (and really can't) cut back spending in any meaningful way and partially because the economic history of the US after recessions has relied on government spending more than consumers and investments. Another thing is that conservatives like to bundle decreasing taxes with decreasing taxes on the upper echolons even more because of "muh investment" which historically has done next to nothing in anything but an economic boom. So yeah, people gotta learn there economics! But then again thats just the liberal university professors brainwashing the american young!!!
>>64324339
That was just an anecdote to make his statement more effective because people on 4chan like to speak in memes
>>64328953
i suppose that's true, but i was really trying to say that it's no longer the law the governs us, it's the media through its influence on society's opinion. a faux pas is just as powerful if not more than an amendment.
>>64329509
that pic may be a meme but everything about it is true. we can never have racial, sexual, and gender equality until we abolish a system that requires a lower class to function.
>>64330080
Yeah, let's try communism for the millionth time. I'm sure this time it won't cause endless suffering and death. :^)
>>64330205
No one has "tried" communism. Countries have tried to attain a communist society, but aside from say revolutionary Catalonia et al., no one has achieved communism.
>>64330074
I wouldn't go that far, but yeah, media influence is certainly moving it along
>>64330250
this anon knows what they're talking about
>>64330074
i mean, not really. maybe in a few years when more gen x-ers and millennials come into power.
the thing is, boomers are still running shit, and most boomers aren't as interested in the the left leaning narrative of the media and pop-culture. the young people who ARE consuming said media and agree with it's ideals generally don't won't to put the time into getting those ideals into government (ie. they won't vote) - at least on a large enough scale. i agree that we're heading in the direction you're talking about, but we aren't quite there yet. quite a bit of "traditional" and conservative legislation is still getting passed.
>>64329509
fucking ahuviya
this guy
for anyone not in the know
https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Ahuviya_Harel
>>64330250
>dude stalinism isn't REAL communism LMAO
>>64330250
>No one has "tried" communism
this fucking reddit meme again........
>>64330352
>>64330309
well, okay, i agree maybe i'm going a little too far.
>>64330250
>>64330309
>no true Scotsman!
Fuck you commies and your bullshit excuses.
>>64324122
KEK
>>64330205
we are getting to a point where our current system is either collapsing or turning into some sort of dystopic neo-feudal surveillance capitalism. the market does not longer = freedom, and probably never did. In power is being centralised like never before and equipped with hi-tech instruments of control that make the Stasi look downright quaint.
>>64330352
the media is not leftist, far from it. they might have embraced identity politics as a marketing tool, but deep down they are as neoliberal as ever. Even supposedly 'left-leaning' outlets like the Guardian, MSNBC or the NYT freak out whenever a more than slightly left of center politician comes into the scene. Remember all those op-eds about support for Sanders or Jeremy Corbyn actually being about sexism or white privilege?
>>64330747
yeah, you're right - my comment was reductive. the progressive nature of the media is pretty shallow.
>>64330747
>>64330809
Wow, i'd never would have guessed id see this dialog on 4chan
>>64321727
white men say things but theyre wrong because theyre white lmao lmao
