>tfw you show LRD and Coil to a normie pleb friend and he loves them
why did /mu/ lie to me that these artists are not accessible?
What songs/albums did you show them?
>>64309734
Heavier Than a Death in the Family and Horse Rotorvator
I love Coil so much! *changes last.fm avatar to vaguely fascist symbol* They speak to me so much. *unfriends black people on Facebook* I think their album Horse Rotorvator is a true underrated masterpiece of modern music that normal people just can't get. *makes vague philosophical status update* Anyway, what other bands do you guys like? I love Current 93, Death in June, This Heat, the list goes on...
>>64310011
forced meme/10
>>64309723
you happen to have a very polite friend who doesn't want to hurt your feelings and is good at lying. probably because he's used to it, because that is a prerequisition for your friendship.
>>64310011
hahaha
>>64310011
I don't get it?
Nothing is inaccessible if your friend sounds passionate enough about it.
You could probably show him some Onkyo and he'd learn to like it if he's a close enough friend.
>>64310385
John Balance and Peter Christopherson were friends with David Tibet who's a friend of Douglas Pierce who's a worshipper of inner emmigration fascists Ernst Jünger, Julius Evola and Yukio Mishima.
>>64310490
oh and they collaborated on one or two C93 albums together in the early 90s or so. Big deal.
>>64310490
>who's a friend
Not anymore!
>>64310385
>>64310490
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVWEqQnjT0M
>>64310508
not? I didn't know that.
>>64310490
Douglas P. has repeatedly said he isn't a fascist.
>>64310530
top wew
>>64310550
Then he's lying. Sorry, I don't buy his bullshit. His lyrics drench in fascist ideology.
>>64310465
I don't know how I could convince anyone to like onkyo.
I can't even describe what I like about it so much myself, so I have no idea what I'd tell to other people.
>>64310535
Tibet was collaborating with Tiny Tim. Tiny Tim is a massive homophobe. Tiny Tim called Douggy P. a faggot. Douggy got mad and told Tibet to stop working with him. Tibet slammed the phone after saying some autistic thing I forgot and never returned any calls after that. Douggy has said that John Balance and Peter Christopherson refused to listen to his side of the story, so he wasn't friends with them either.
Now, all Douggy has are fascist fans who thought the semi-ironic aesthetic was serious.
>>64310572
And Future also raps about fucking 20 bitches a day and murdering people, it still doesn't mean he does.
>>64310609
>semi-ironic aesthetic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMm0muZ7F5U
>>64310627
but he still raps about fucking 20 bitches and murdering people, so does Douglas P sing about a holier-than-thou-fascism
>>64310691
It's all just an act.
>>64309723
I've this same general experience on many occasions. I've shown people who aren't too into music shit like Swans, Venetian Snares, and Acid Mothers Temple and have never gotten the stereotypical "lol wtf anon this is too weird".
>>64310733
yeah, it's superficial, dull, sell-out, meaningless and a laugh, the kids love it tho. the whole elitism thing is just a joke really. just copy and paste some obscure fascist and ultra-reactionary philosophers and you're good to go.
nah... you might swallow that turd. I don't.
>>64309723
I really liked LRD on first listen if that says anything
>>64310815
Me too, but I've already been familiar with plenty of "extreme" music.
>>64310733
of course it's an act! but that guy follows it with such dedication, and on several occasions has expressed his admiration for certain authors, that only the most naive cannot add one and two together. he's taking it serious up to the point where it becomes damaging. it's very convenient.
the whole point of this is actually to not draw too much attention from the dumb nazi crowd. they don't want skinheads and politically active neo-fascists to show up at their concerts. they are part of a third school of fascim, an exclusively cultural one which does not want to get involved with politics or terrorism.
>>64310011
I'm pretty sure most Coil fans are leftists nigga
>>64310877
So, he isn't a threat to anyone?
Why not listen to his music then...
>>64309723
that friend of yours
he ain't no normie
>>64310877
I never said that he is a threat or that you should not listen to his music.
I said that it's bullshit to think he's not a fascist or a sympathizer of fascist and reactionary ideologies. how blind can you be to think it's all "ironic", don't you listen to the lyrics? don't you know what authors he's referencing? don't you know what he's saying in his interviews? do you really only hear the music?
What's with this meme that Current 93 is supposedly racist?
David Tibet litetally gave Mike C-town (a black guy) his latest album for free.
>>64311075
Tibet collaborated with neo-fascists and racists in the 80s. that's with that meme.
>David Tibet litetally gave Mike C-town (a black guy) his latest album for free.
just like the colonial British gave the poor africans the railroads for free, huh? Did you know I gave a dollar bill once to a homeless guy? It's true!
oh, btw...
https://twitter.com/mykectown
>Music Nazi
there you go... it all checks out
>>64311075
It's probably due to him associating with Douglas P even though that was decades ago. Plus the Swastikas for Noddy LP from the 80's has a sketchy speech on it from Boyd Rice. People don't realize that Tibet changed a lot after getting into Christianity. If you watch any interviews with him when he was younger, he's literally what /mu/ would consider a wrong generation edgy teenager.
>>64311016
It isn't ironic. It's just this imagery he is trying to create. It doesn't mean that he supports fascist ideals or is a fascist himself.
Like Steve Albini said:
>I am well aware, thanks, that good people can make ugly art and that ugly people can make good art. Ultimately the function of art is to express something and move an idea from one person to another, and the tools of that can include revulsion and discomfort. Having been in a few bands myself, thanks, I know that the uninitiated can mistake these devices as windows into the soul of the creator. I am never quick to judge a person based on a superficial reading of creative output. Peter Sotos is a lovely fellow whom I trust implicitly, despite his writing evoking a truly primal disgust in me, to use another rapey example. Douglas P. from Death in June said it best in an interview, when the journalist remarked that he seemed like a nice fellow, which was unexpected given that the his songs are often repellent. "Oh, that's not me," he said, "that's the crazy people we sing about."
>>64311196
>Peter Sotos is a lovely fellow whom I trust implicitly, despite his writing evoking a truly primal disgust in me
guess he conveniently ignored the part where Sotos was arrested for possessing child pornography.
>>64311148
Isn't Rice just an edgy fucker who doesn't really believe in anything?
I find it hard to believe that somebody is a nazi who also thinks that rape is good.
>>64311196
I'm not trying to disprove that he seems like a nice middle aged gay man. his art has fascism written all over it. there's no denying in that. and DIJ IS moving an idea from one person to another, quite effectively so.
>>64311016
What interviews you idiot?
>>64311248
ideologically Boyd Rice is morally below fascism. he's a proponent of the most primitive ethics thinkable. that's his hallmark.
he's not an edgy fucker, he's an alcoholic who doesn't give a shit, and wants to rape women all day. that's Boyd Rice in a nutshell.
>>64311146
How the fuck is a simple gesture of simptathy like giving an album away to a fan comparable to some colony receiving a railroad for economics reasons?
Are you retarded?
Donald Trump May Not Be a Fascist, But He Is Leading Us Merrily Down That Path
>>64311334
you really expect this conversation to go on if you spit out insults?
>>64311391
you don't get a joke, do you?
>>64311248
Who knows. He pretends to be a Nazi on on a white supremacist TV channel while listening to 60's girl-pop records in his tiki bar on the side. The English post-industrial scene was just so ideologically convoluted that it's borderline impossible to tell who was just playing around and who was sincere.
>>64311146
This entire post gave me cancer.
I hate this fucking board so much.
>>64311237
And he was released.
>>64311436
Coil were definitely gay nazis though.
>>64311429
I didn't read your whole post but now I have I admit hat last part kinda gave it away
Can someone tell me what are these so called "military temples" that John Balance referenced so often in his songs?
"Triple suns (sons?)" too?
>>64310011
>This Heat
>fascist
can someone explain this shitpost to me?
>mfw people freak out about artists being potentially fascist/nazis/white supremacists/whatever
Separate art from artist, dudes.
i really like live four. it has some songs really good songs i cant find in any recorded studio session. snow falls into military temples is probably the most "music" out of their stuff they have IMO, so its a good consistent listen without needing to isolate my sensations.
time machines is otherwordly. does anyone else dig coil for this almost non-music music? in other words, their construction of frequencies, sounds, and energy seems more focused as a sound ritual or spiritual conduit than creating conventional songs that emulate their energies and ideas
>>64311439
talks about cancer, posts k-pop webm
NO, I HATE THIS FUCKING BOARD A LOT MORE THAN YOU!
>>64311701
at least kpop threads are on topic, whenever i go outside of them all i see is ironic shitposting and similar garbage
>>64311701
>>64311439
man, korean culture must really be sooo suppressing. reminds me of the victorian age, all that suppressed feelings and desires, there's semen and other bodily juices stalling up and giving people a miserable life.
>>64311841
why would you say this?
>>64311779
of course they are on-topic. because no-one else cares about them. except for a self-contained group no-one bothers to post in them.
>>64311841
It's all because porn isn't legalized in Korea.
>>64311852
just look at her simulated orgasm on that couch. she's banned from showing her tits so she's making up for it by thrusting them into the camera.
korean culture has TABOO all written over it. I pity them.
>>64311906
i think you're just seeing things, she's only like 18 i doubt she's similating an orgasm or even knows what that is
>>64311903
exactly. and porn is just the tip of the iceberg.
well, if you're into exploitation of hidden desires and manipulation to get power over people, you can easily blackmail your korean girl into sexual slavery. if that turns you on...
>>64311951
>she's only like 18 i doubt she's similating an orgasm or even knows what that is
this is b8 right
>>64311951
I seen what I saw, man. k-pop is selling sex, in case you haven't noticed.
>>64311701
I'd rather have kpop leak out onto the entire board than listen to this tumblr bullshit anymore
What would John Balance think of k-pop?
>>64312007
>kpop leak out onto the entire board
I bet you do, you destructive repressed cunt.
>>64312020
easy. it would make him depressed.
>>64312007
>tumblr bullshit
people are wrong! and they have to be corrected if they are wrong!
>>64310011
keked
under-rated post
>>64312020
I don't know about John Balance, but I'm sure Boyd Rice loves it.
>>64311480
Coil were gay in the way Ernst Rohm was gay.
Coil were Nazis in the way the Thule Society were Nazis.
>>64312020
from what i understood from listening to coil, i think that he was pretty much disgusted with the modern world and only liked gay pagan roman shit
so he would hate it
>>64312020
Not gay enough, not dark enough, not enough drugs, and the synths aren't slow enough.
>>64311439
>I can fap to this
Wait- can I fap to this? How old is she? Please advise.
>>64312159
she's 18 i think
she's an autistic trainee who won a survival show simply because of the sympathy card and because she can't do anything right
>>64312151
That's a shame.
Sleazy would have probably liked k-pop boy groups, he was into 10-18 year old Thai boys after all.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6_wEJV_eoY
>>64310629
OH LET US START TODAY
TO LIVE AND DIE THE SAME WAY
reminder that this track is on par with some of the best Di6 songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMU5pS_hL1o
>>64312450
meaning: to die as a soldier in a war
>>64312502
that was written by Michael Cashmore, the guy responsible for C93's folk melodies in the early 90s.
Never liked Coil, way too derivative and boring. I guess that's why is it /mu/core.
>>64312832
who is this semen demon
>>64312832
oh, damn. you can see her plastic surgery scars...
coil is shit music for edgy manchildren
>>64312020
He was a huge Kate Bush fan, so who knows?
Coil is for edgy manchildren who want to like something "transgressive" despite not being gay, but think they are too cool for Throbbing Gristle
Les Rallizes Denudes is for edgy manchildren who are too hipster to like Sonic Youth.
At least K-Pop fags are shamelessly in it for the cute girls/boys and don't pretend they're not into it for the "muh mysteriousness" image. Average K-Pop song probably has the lyrical depth of the average Coil song, too.
>>64313418
Except Kate Bush is legitimately amazing and has two masterpiece, whereas k-pop is vapid garbage with no redeeming qualities.
>>64313517
>too cool for Throbbing Gristle
What do you mean?
If anything Throbbing Gristle is far too inaccessible and therefore preferring TG over Coil gives you more hipster points.
