http://www.nme.com/news/henry-rollins--2/93177
>Cracker Logic
>Homophobic
Is Henry Rollins a fucking pussywhipped cunt now?
>punk musician
>not liberal
>>64287853
>nazi punks
He always seemed like a fucking blow hard to me
>>64287594
In 2016 opposition to the left's Bio-Marxist agenda, however mild, is about the most punk rock thing you can do
why do USA USA!!! hicks go on and on about FREEDOM but then start getting all touchy about something as meaningless as bathrooms?
>>64288480
Cause we don't want big government going around redefining gender for us
>>64288421
I misread that as Bro-Marxist lol. I'm gonna start saying that.
is there anything more disgusting than a self-loathing white person?
>>64288564
one that lets bbc fuck their wife
>>64288564
Furries, transgenderists, drug addicts homosexuals and other Marxist degenerates
>>64288515
gender =/= sex. Gender is societal nonsense of how a specific sex should act. Sex is biological. Any rational transgender person would agree that you can't LITERALLY change the sex, but providing some aesthetic and hormonal changes can help the person with gender dysphoria cope and have a praceful existence.
I'm all for transgender people being allowed to use the restroom that they identify with, and for almost all, will stick to.
Now, for the nonbinary/gender-androgenous/attack-helicopter identifying nonsense, fuck off and pick a bathroom.
>>64288607
furries aren't that bad, they're responsible for some great porn. marxism is also hella based.
the rest i agree with.
He always has been
The USA is entirely cucked now that the minority is against transgenders because of the media forcing it onto the public. these people need help for their mental illness, not to be encouraged.
>tfw tansexual
>I thought the bill was fine
>simply seperating bathrooms by sex
mind you, I went into a wetherspoons once, went into the gents and has some staff knock on the door and say there was a report of a woman in the mens toilets. Awkward but that's life
>>64288638
I hate this "gender is a social construct" thing.
Yes, it's how most members of that sex act and there's total biological reasons for that.
>>64287594
I haven't really read up on the law all that much but isn't it just you have to be post-op to use the bathroom you think you should use?
>>64288653
>furry marxist
please eliminate yourself from the gene pool
>>64287873
>fuck off
>>64287594
>it's another musician's political leanings thread
Just go back to /pol/ please. Just please.
>>64287594
>Henry Rollins is a social liberal, what a surprise
You didn't know this already?
>>64288653
>they're responsible for some great porn
I'm not a furfag (I genuinely wish they would all fucking die), but this is true.
>republicans who believe in "small government" passing laws all around the country dictating bathroom habits
>>64287594
link to the actual article rollins wrote. it's awesome.
>>64287594
>that font rendering
Holy shit, beyond disgusting. Kys
>>64288817
good job man
>>64288564
The perpetually stoned Ben Carson, giving racist white people to say they supported a black presidential candidate while comfortably knowing all along that he never had a real chance of winning the primary, and even if he did, they'd still be supporting someone who hates blacks and thinks whites are completely superior, and paints them as victims in every regard.
>>64288564
A self-aggrandizing wh*te """person"""
>>64289974
>The perpetually stoned Ben Carson
?
>>64290596
In every interview I've seen he looks and sounds high as a fucking kite.
>>64290681
That's just his natural intonation. He thinks weed is a gateway drug and he would intensify the War on Drugs.
>>64290743
>He thinks weed is a gateway drug
...To pizza and potato chips...
>believing the war on drugs is real
you're deluded
>>64290884
His words, not mine.
>>64287594
His unapologetic asshole shtick makes him money.
>>64288653
>furries aren't that bad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1nnNz_Tewk
"As you, my fans, know I’m scheduled to play in Greensboro, North Carolina this Sunday. As we also know, North Carolina has just passed HB2, which the media are referring to as the “bathroom” law. HB2 — known officially as the Public Facilities Privacy and Security Act — dictates which bathrooms transgender people are permitted to use. Just as important, the law also attacks the rights of LGBT citizens to sue when their human rights are violated in the workplace. No other group of North Carolinians faces such a burden. To my mind, it’s an attempt by people who cannot stand the progress our country has made in recognizing the human rights of all of our citizens to overturn that progress. Right now, there are many groups, businesses, and individuals in North Carolina working to oppose and overcome these negative developments. Taking all of this into account, I feel that this is a time for me and the band to show solidarity for those freedom fighters. As a result, and with deepest apologies to our dedicated fans in Greensboro, we have canceled our show scheduled for Sunday, April 10th. Some things are more important than a rock show and this fight against prejudice and bigotry — which is happening as I write — is one of them. It is the strongest means I have for raising my voice in opposition to those who continue to push us backwards instead of forwards."
>>64288607
You don't know what marxism means do you?
>>64290996
He's not wrong though.
>>64288638
t. genders study postmodernist
Hey ignoramus, genders existed as a societal construct for a reason. Women are biologically designed to be mothers, men fathers. I used to think people were just born gay or straight and that was it, but then I realized all gays are born straight then molested at a young age or raised by a single mother after my gf came out
>>64291141
>after my gf came out
you turned her gay f.a.m
there are plenty of queers who were neither molested nor from a single parent household
>>64291234
yes
lmao imagine unironically being a backwards cracker on /mu/
>>64291203
that's just cause the leftist-run media is pushing that shit on kids now
>>64291366
I hate that the far left is doing this to people, and being a liberal of course I get drug into this shit.
>>64291141
That's some nice anecdotal evidence, anon.
>>64291366
>>64291464
you know mallard ducks are commonly gay too
did the jew media force it on the ducks?
>>64291495
We aren't talking about ducks.
>>64291513
the point, my stupid friend, is that homosexuality is obviously natural
>>64291513
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_animals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
damn those jews get everywhere huh they even corrupted the penguins
>>64291464
>>64291611
btfo kek
>>64291548
>>64291611
Yeah, but I'm not talking about animals. I'm talking about humans coming out ass bi,trans, gay, or queer due to media and social trends and pressure.
>>64291763
so you're just saying you'd rather gay people stayed closeted?
lol Brandon you're a sad fuck
>>64291464
That's what liberalism is about. You are welcome to drop by /pol/ anytime if you feel ready to see just how deep the rabbit goes and discover it's the Jews hiding at the bottom of it all
>liberals
>leftists
Holy shit you cunts are uneducated as fuck
>>64290681
I think you're projecting a little bit of your pothead self into an accomplished neurosurgeon who's much smarter than you
>>64288771
Biology isn't normative you pleb
>"Derp people with penises are women!!"
We're living in a fucking dark age.
>>64292421
>I'm pretending that socially liberal attitudes aren't associated with leftism
>I'm actually feigning superiority for not understanding that liberalism refers to both economic and social principles
I love watching pedants fuck up in their pathetic attempt to show off
>>64291763
Humans are animals
Why are white people so sensitive?
>>64292502
Biology is 'normative' by your standards to its fucking core. Reality is against you.
>>64287891
this
>>64291366
its scary how true this is. half of the girls i knew from high school are either bi, lesbian, or a dull on tumblrsjw. i blame social media and society for promoting it. they cant think for themselves.
>>64291763
>I'm not talking about animals
Brandon, I have some news for you...
>>64292575
Yeah unlike us alpha males who blindly agree with everything /pol/ and /r9k/ says
>>64291366
>>64291464
>>64292575
I know this is trolling, but the fact that there are people out there that might legit think this way makes me embarrassed for us all as humans.
>>64292639
/pol/ is full of people who unironically believe it all, the ironic posting exists but it's pretty transparent
every age has had backwards people clinging to the old ideas I guess
>>64292690
>but it's pretty transparent
mate, /pol/ is the epitome of poe's law
they ironically shitpost about being extreme right wing to the point where the extreme right wing thought they were in good company
>>64292639
Dude... most people are much more reactionary than you think. Really.
Around the world, even.
The world isn't actually going 'progressive'. Just a very small minority of writers and intellectuals tirelessly try to make it look that way, because they still buy into this now outdated idea that everything is based in words and representation.
>>64292723
Sorry to break it to you, but /pol/ isn't being ironic. They're dead fucking serious.
Also, going reactionary or reactionary-hybrid is the next step. It's actually the more 'progressive' direction right now.
Reality-based views (rather than the idea that "everything is a social construct!!!") are going to define the next era.
>>64292723
That's what happened to 4chan in general. The whole site, but especially /b/, throwing around "nigger" and "kike" all the time and the ironic racism attracted actual racists.
>>64292799
>Sorry to break it to you, but /pol/ isn't being ironic
as someone who ironically shitposts on pol about the day of the rope and national socialism, I disagree completely senpai
>>64292738
Most people don't give a fuck. A lot of people in the modern world look at everything in a "how will it benefit me the most" way, and if it won't they don't care. Or at least in the western world. (and some of the more modern parts of East Asia).
The reason a lot of progressive stuff is getting passed in the US is because people look at it with a "why not? No skin off my back." viewpoint. The majority of people are the hyper paranoid groups that feel like the world is on some kind of downward spiral.
It's almost as if the reactionaries are online just fighting each other while the rest of us normans go about our every day life.
>>64292800
Well, yeah, all that seemed like shitposting at first, but the spread of information the internet engendered opened up vectors of inquiry into geopolitics and the anons with that interest schooled themselves on it all, and, well, shifted to what identity politics leftists would call 'far right'.
It's more than just memes at work, though... all the most cutting edge theory is going that way, and art too. To be schooled in world happenings is to come to a fucked up realization that /pol/ is actually right about a lot. I don't agree with those of them on like blanket racism stuff but the anti-globalist sentiment and rejection of identity politics and poststructuralism for realism is happening with all the best thinkers now. I'm so not kidding.
>>64292944
So basically you just drank the kool-aid of the community you are part of?
>>64292944
kill yourself
>>64292915
So not fucking true. Most people have very 'normative' values. They might say why not to gay marriage in the US or Europe, but they're generally pretty reactionary. And it comes down partly to the 'how will it benefit me the most' thing you refer to... it's not in a peoples' interest to challenge their natural reproductive strategies or the structures that enable it, or to do away with their own cultures or ethnic basis.
Self interest is perfectly reasonable to a degree.
>>64291548
Ducks can't be homophobic. People make decisions based on the information available to them. You are retarded.
>>64293019
No, I'm not part of the /pol/ community. I'm aware of what goes through there. I have my feet in various communities, some more than others, and get exposed to various conflicting currents.
Other worlds I'm connected to actually have a secret shift happening right now that is very against post-structuralism and identity politics, and these aren't reactionary 'rednecks' or angry losers, but the most active, creative and vital people one can imagine.
The left in its current form is about to become embarrassingly outmoded.
>>64293048
ducks are naturally homosexual
penguins are naturally homosexual
cattle are naturally homosexual
koalas are naturally homosexual
chimpanzees are naturally homosexual
humans just get tricked into it by jews
So what's up with the weirdly high amounts of patience that right wing and "classical liberals" as they call themselves, seem to have? I only ask because they seems to be the only people with enough tolerance to watch 20+ minute video responses of people whittling down points and details of randoms on youtube. How can they stand it?
>>64293288
Yes, right, progressives don't tirelessly obsess over minutae concerning gender or racial representation in media
>>64292523
nah people with penises have xy chromosomes
>I've painted this apple orange
>now it's an orange
Why do libtards have such preposterous opinions?
>>64293416
nah, studies show that apples painted orange had orange tendencies to begin with, otherwise why would they be painted orange
>>64293351
Are you one of the people who makes those kinds of videos?
You took that post rather personally.
>>64293416
They're bad people, anon
They're history's cannon fodder. Born to be wrong and to lose. Genetic dead ends.
>>64293416
>people are fruits
get better metaphors.
>>64293481
There was nothing in that rebuke suggesting personal investment. Learn to argue better.
>>64293530
You didn't even present anything to argue about. You just took what I said and tried to say "lel the other guys do it too!" in a hyper defensive way. Most normal people wouldn't be so defensive without some kind of personal investment.
Not to mention, you didn't answer the question.
>>64292523
Excellent summary my dear fellow
>cuckservatives
"You're either a MANLY man or pretty docile girl- that's what God/nature/Reagan intended and that's IT"
>lolberals
"Gender is somehow both a social construct and an innate organic structure. It is also subject to change based on completely subjective, non-material bases,"
>implying gender classification isn't fully ideological and is shaped by/reinforces the material base of society
>>64288638
>rational transgender
Trying in vain to keep this music related, what is the best Black Flag album and why is it My War?
>>64293847
because the puppet on the cover is cute
>>64287594
>rich old white straight dudes realize their strong hold on society is collapsing
>Henry BTFO of them.
Based HENRY.
>>64288920
>he doesn't realize this law was created because of a different law that was passed
why bother talking about things you have no clue about
>>64293811
I bet you enjoy getting fucked in the ass, because black cocks are 'fully ideologica' and shaped by the material structure and what not. I myself feel proud to be white, free from HIV and mental illness. Which in the view of numales makes me the devil
>>64293511
fine
>I've put a rubber glove on this penguin's head
>now it's a chicken
>>64292875
>I shitpost so everybody else must also!
>>64294027
>I myself feel proud to be white, free from HIV and mental illness
You're the poster who brought up black cocks out of fucking nowhere
>>64293919
All the countries not run by old straight white males happen to be third world shitholes. Coincidence?
>>64288480
>start getting all touchy about something as meaningless as bathrooms?
because having men pretending to be pre-op trans inside a toilet with girls is absolutely fucktarded
the only solution is to literally build an extra toilet structure and pipeworks into every business in the country.....which will probably bankrupt 50% of small business in the US (as they are already struggling to survive)
>>64292639
But you do accept that North American academia and media has a left wing bias, right? We're not even talking about social issues, which is also true, but simply just economic/governance issues.
>>64294187
yeah sure, intelligent people are left wing ""biased""
>>64294095
...............
>>64294245
that's a meme forced on that world by blatant activists with an agenda so that those like you who want to fancy themselves intelligent will uncritically fall in line with every progressive position. if it were such a natural tendency, the indoctrination in those places wouldn't be so forced. and it's not like intellectuals have always been left wing, or held the views that progressives today hold (it's definition continually changes, it's meaningless)
basically, you're a tool
>>64294037
kys
>>64294245
Do you have any evidence that political views are causally related to intellect? Also, how do you quantify this intelligence? IQ? Is intelligence a social construct?
>>64294336
I think it's much more likely that you will, tranny
>>64287853
Punks are going to start turning hardcore republican in a few years.
>>64294245
Also, are you claiming that media CEOs are so-called "intelligent people"?
>>64294330
yeah the current progressive issue changes but the constant trend through history is that the more intelligent people are ahead of the curve on social issues, and the uneducated stay intolerant
>indoctrination
lmao
What the fuck happened here?
>>64294439
>filename
Well asians do better than whites in general
>>64294405
biological Marxism is an attempt to redefine humanity which could result in a dystopia that makes Lovecraft seem tame in comparison. They are going for gender, family and our very DNA, the most basic elements of the human condition
>>64294336
The suicide rate of trannies is about 20X higher than the rest of the population. People introduced to their corresponding hormone (testosterone or estrogen) often change their mind about sex change.
You can read about the sex change regret out there on sexchangeregret .com/
It sucks being part of the .03 percent of the population that wants to chop their dick up and shove it inside their body while taking copious hormones and facial surgery. Just consider that you just might be a fag.
>>64293416
Human aren't fruit
>>64294037
Men and women aren't different species.
>>64294457
We must deconstruct Asian-American privilege.
>>64294481
epic I like watching conspiracy rant videos on Youtube sometimes it's really funny seeing these delusional people gibber till they froth at the mouth
>>64294405
>history is that the more intelligent people are ahead of the curve on social issues
yeah it sure worked out well for the Romans :)
>>64294522
>be Roman
>tfw getting your dick sucked by thirty different guys in a crazy feat of debauchery
feels good man
>>64294481
Do you mean orwell?
>>64294405
you're so far up into it you can't even see it
anyways, I have ascertained that you are spiritually and structurally WRONG - you are hereby consigned to that status where you will shrivel, along with your waning lifesource, in your self-imposed exile from the regenerative powers and comforts of eternal truth
have fun pussssyyyy
>>64294562
No, lovecraft. Think The Shadow over Innsmouth
>>64294562
he means Hillary is literally Cthulhu ?
>>64294481
>human condition
ewe lad
>>64294135
If a cis male with bad intentions wanted to enter an unsupervised bathroom he wouldn't need to pretend to be pre-op. He wouldn't even need to pass as female, though it would help. Denying trans people the right to use their preferred facility does nothing to prevent this.
>>64294522
it probably did
>>64294578
>you are spiritually wrong
lmao he believes in god as well
>>64294725
now you've done it
haaaave fuuuuuuuuun suuuckeerrrr
>>64294506
Just because a man has his dick chopped up and shoved into in his body does not make his dick a cunt. Just because he views himself as a woman it does not make him a woman. Reality is different that fantasy.
Just because a man takes hormones does not mean he is a woman. Men and woman are fundamentally, structurally different. It is measurable. Gender is not assigned by society. There is a great study in which monkeys are given the choice to play with trucks and a doll. The girl monkeys would choose the doll and the guy monkeys would choose the truck. Hormones have an effect on our structure and behavior. The X and they Y DNA effect behavior and structure greatly.
>>64294766
>There is a great study in which monkeys are given the choice to play with trucks and a doll. The girl monkeys would choose the doll and the guy monkeys would choose the truck.
absolutely bullshit
>>64294830
why don't you read a book or something you liberal fucktard?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-29418230
male monkey selects trucks
female monkey selects dolls
>>64294830
https://www.newscientist
com/article/dn13596-male-monkeys-prefer-boys-toys/
You were saying?
There's another good study in which a baby had his dick chopped up and turned into a tranny cunt "accidentally" while he was a baby. He grew up and was treated as a girl. He rejected everything and rebelled and became a butch tranny. Even with hormone treatments in his teens he remained male.
>man: I'm a duck
>doctor: you're insane!
>man: I'm a woman
>doctor: of course you are! What a sensible thing to believe!
>>64294766
>The girl monkeys would choose the doll and the guy monkeys would choose the truck
What?
Monkeys have no conception of syntactic structure, let alone dolls or trucks. Even if you concede that hunter-gatherer societies have gender roles to an extent, they would still have no idea what modern inventions represent.
Of course you didn't provide a source.
>>64294935
I guess gender isn't a social construct after all....
>>64294981
Read
>>64294941
>>64294672
your utopia is a nightmare for any sane person, we'll all be brown, genderless, low-IQ blobs with no individuality and obey communism for all eternity. truly heaven on earth! I am a white European and I think my culture and my people deserve to be preserved, what? does that trigger you?
>>64294981
>they would still have no idea what modern inventions represent.
You're an idiot m8
The female monkey selects the doll because it resembles a baby monkey that it can look after.
The male does not have the same desire to nuture........so it selects the cars and trucks instead.
It's not rocket science.
>>64295060
but what about the trans monkeys?
>>64295107
>but what about the trans monkeys?
they selected the construction tools and started building a seperate bathroom
more like black fag
>>64295060
cased closed
Judith Butler BTFO
reality: 1
politics: 0
>>64295107
We can chop their genitals up and give them cancer causing hormones. Then when they realize they've made a monkey mistake we can find someway for the monkeys to commit monkey suicide.
>>64295007
Okay, watched the video and read the article. Actually very interesting. Kind of a small sample size, but thought provoking.
The part at the end is particularly interesting
>Wallen cautions against over-interpreting the results. The plush and wheeled categories served as proxies for feminine and masculine, but other toy characteristics, such as size or colour, might explain the male’s behaviour, he says. Or the male monkeys might seek out more physically active toys, he says
>“There is likely to be a biological tendency that is amplified by society,”
This would indicate that biological differences such as strength and size lend themselves to different social roles in societies where these play a key part in society (what Marx called 'primitive communism') However, it's possible these distinctions would diminish if struggling for power and resources was nonexistent.
>>64295232
>However, it's possible these distinctions would diminish if struggling for power and resources was nonexistent.
nah, all that shit is still very much alive in us
>>64291495
>appeal to nature
>>64293511
>>64294506
Ducks aren't human either
>>64295232
Those distinctions give people individuality. Communism is fascism. There's a reason my girlfriend's parents fled Russia. There's no way around it. There will always be distinctions between great and lesser in a society. Power will be measurable by mind, body, and soul even in the most equal playing field. People are not the same and that's what makes life beautiful. Homogenized societies devolve into fascism fairly quickly.
>>64295345
and men can't become women
>>64295354
wait, I though fascism was a good thing
>>64295297
the denial of nature/reality will be your undoing. such a strategy can't sustain itself.
>>64295432
>some ducks are gay naturally therefore humans can be gay naturally
>>64295007
>>64294941
>>64294935
the paper is not very good and I do not think repeatable. The only significant result is that the male monkeys interact with the male toys on average around 10 times and the female toys twice (females are not seen to pick female toys more), but this is literally a sample of 11 monkeys. Completely fucking meaningless really
you take another 11 male monkeys at random and who knows what your new monkeys will prefer, it's just much too small a sample
also they have excluded 3 male monkeys to get that 11, for no good reason (they say because they interacted fewer than 5 times - absolutely unnecessary if they knew how to do statistics properly)
basically they fiddle the data as much as possible, comparing every conceivable pair of datasets in an overtly dishonest way and still the best p value they can get is p=.04 (p=.05 would be called insignificant)
it's a garbage paper
>>64295297
>>64295345
jesus christ redditors are retarded
>>64295458
you do know we evolved from other animals right
>>64288480
faggot pls go
>>64295505
>I'll just call him a redditor
We also evolved from primates, does that mean it's natural for us to throw our shit at each other?
>>64295505
damage control: the post
>>64295458
Of course people can be gay. Nobody said a fag won't suck dick. He's allowed to. Everyone is allowed the freedom to pursue what truly makes them happy, but trannies should know about the stats and the numerous reports of regret for post op trannies.
20X higher suicide rate
Cancer from the hormones
Broken genitals (if they have them chopped up by the doctors)
And desire to become the opposite sex can be curved by taking hormones of their birth gender. They should know this. I think a lot of these people are just gay and should give bumming a chance before they mutilate themselves.
>>64295432
who's the one denying 'nature' here? /pol/ is as guilty of picking and choosing statistics that suit their ideology. the extreme black and white mentality creates lots of blind spots. You are either an Alpha Redpilled free-market National Socialist or a numale cuck sjw faggot. When both are absurd stereotypes that barely exist outside of the internet.
>>64295545
You can rely on the papers backing shitty articles for regressives to have bad statistics behind them, you will find it's true for every shitty article your stormfront friends give you
>>64295556
he's already arguing against the /pol/ guy, read the threads deeper
>>64292525
What is libertarianism my retarded friend
>>64295458
I don't deny same sex people are going to fuck around sometimes - I do. it's obv not a legit reproductive approach tho and kids need a (real) male and female parent
I don't buy into the gender theory nonsense though. I don't care what a person wants to do with their body or how they want to dress... but it's just dress up and/or mutilation. I'm not going to call it anything more just tpo be nice or progressive, i don't give a damn about being 'progressive', it's dorky
>>64295551
>desire to become the opposite sex can be cured by taking hormones of their birth gender
OK here is another claim that is complete utter bullshit. Is there an incompetent paper behind this one or are you just straight lying this time?
>>64294481
tfw trans people are worse than Lovecraftian Elder Gods
Hahaha omg 4chan...never change.
>>64295556
i'm neither of those, i have views that fall on both sides of the fence
leftists are much funner to pick on though
>>64295505
>you do know we evolved from other animals right
>>64295505
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwXQRJHeZyU
>>64295659
Don't waste your time. These people honestly believe there's a secret cabal of feminists trying to take away their videogames. You can't make up people this stupid.
>>64295681
lol, molyneux is a literal cult guru by now.
Jesus Christ this board is worse than /pol/. Easier to bait, too
>>64295710
>These people honestly believe there's a secret cabal of feminists trying to take away their videogames
Why are we making such dumb assumptions all of a sudden?
>>64288638
You should be able to do whatever girly shit makes you happy as a guy without having to call yourself a woman. People will give you shit I guess, but calling yourself a woman isn't really going to help.
>>64295681
if essentially all closely related animals display homosexuality (which is necessarily natural) you need to give a good reason that we would completely evolve out of homosexuality
do you have a reason we would evolve out of homosexuality while the hundreds of other species observed do not? It needs to be a reason so compelling that we disbelieve the gay people we see are naturally gay
>>64295710
yeah I know I usually don't try I just quite enjoyed reading the paper about monkeys playing with toys because it made every single mistake in the book
>>64295048
Hey, it's not my fault you can't construct a meaningful personality around anything other than your skin or genitals.
>>64295354
>Communism is fascism
They are literally on opposite ends of the political spectrum.
>>64295804
>if essentially all closely related animals display homosexuality
Yeah, ducks are super closely related to humans
>>64292799
It's the same with memes on every board. It all starts ironic until new people come in, don't get it, and unironically adopt whatever viewpoint. Even here on /mu/ this happens.
>>64295822
no wonder they don't like talking about ethnicity and genetics
>>64288607
I'm every one of these. Well, I'm not an addict. But I dabble.
>>64295822
>>64295837
I already linked to a wikipedia list but I'll keep spoonfeeding https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_displaying_homosexual_behavior
>>64288771
Gender ROLES are a construct. And not the fact that gender roles themselves are a thing, but rather what represents gender roles from culture to culture
>>64295822
What about dolphins? We at least belong to the same class.
>>64295697
>>64288771
gender is constructed. sex is not. idk why people this ignorant even make youtube videos
>>64288607
idiot
>>64295924
I wasn't arguing against you
>>64292502
>Biology isn't normative you pleb
this is what lefitsts actually think. they pretty much admit facts and reality don't matter if they contradict the whims of the oppressed
>>64295884
>Gender ROLES are a construct
"no"
>>64295989
nice meme
>>64295814
They aren't. Both right and left spectrums of thought lead to fascism. There are two kinds of people
1. Authoritarian
2. Fuck-offitarian
There are people who want to tell you what to do and people who want to live your life in peace. The left and right are both guilty. The religious right is a manifestation of fascism, and the SJW liberal is a manifestation of fascism.
Communist societies do not work well. There are problems with European countries too. You haven't lived there. I have family in Berlin who do not think it is paradise. They are mired in political problems as well. The narrative that European countries are pure and wonderful is a lie. Socialism takes away peoples rights and robs genuinely talented people of their right to succeed.
>>64295814
Please tell me which peer-reviewed political science journal you are submitting your paper on "Fuck-offitarianism" to.
>>64296085
meant for
>>64296027
>>64287594
He didn't use the word cracker to refer to all white people, just the trashy degenerates ones
>>64296085
All of them.
>>64294135
> being this retarded
>>64296027
Also, don't think I idolize the EU (or the Soviet Union for that matter).
Every human society in history has been shitty, with virtually no exceptions. Any reasonable alternative would need a massive shift in material and ideological structures that I am almost certain none of us will see in our lifetimes.
>>64295884
they're essentially the same in every culture.
that there might be like one tribe somewhere where there is an exception doesn't prove a thing
>>64296085
>Please tell me which peer-reviewed political science journal you are submitting your paper on "Fuck-offitarianism" to.
Is this any way to post on 4chan, dude? And you're a tripfag? What are you looking for here?
>>64291495
>>64291611
>hey, look, some animals display homosexuality
>let's hold gay parades, allow same sex couples to adopt kids and throw people in jails for questioning it! It's perfectly natural!
>>64294135
Pic related, you already have those.
>>64295416
Fascism is still collectivism.
>>64296159
prove me wrong then dumbass.....
>>64296238
There's good and bad. You can look at every society and find shitty things. You can look at every society and find good things. View the romans. They were dicks, but they were great artists, traders, builders, and civilizers. It's just how you choose to look at reality.
All societies reflect the people. If the people are shit the society is bound for shit. It requires massive individual revolution to create a better society. We all share the responsibility for society and how it behaves because it reflects our inner self. The individual must create paradise within himself to create paradise in the world around him.
>>64296362
yes, my bigoted friend, homosexuality is natural and you would make a terrible scientist
>>64296362
>Pic related, you already have those.
Can you imagine the shitstorm when trans people are told to use the disabled toilet??
Never going to happen
The only viable solution (to prevent predators from pretending to be "trans") is a 4th bathroom in every business.
>>64296027
>Both right and left spectrums of thought lead to fascism
Facism is a right-wing system, and while intrinsically authoritarian, is not synonymous with authoritarianism, which manifests Communism as well.
>Socialism takes away peoples rights and robs genuinely talented people of their right to succeed.
No, quite the opposite. Judicious application of socialist ideas gives anyone who is genuinely talented the opportunity to succeed, as opposed to only those who are born into wealth. Also, no European country is communist or socialist.
>>64296432
Can you imagine the shitstorm when trans people are told to use a 4th bathroom??
Never going to happen
In fact they're going to change bathrooms as they please when they change gender. In every state.
and this will put absolutely no one at any risk
>>64296432
>The only viable solution
2bh the sane solution would be to intern all the trans in a mental institution, so they can't go around bothering normal, decent people
>>64287594
>pussywhipped
There is nothing about women in that headline you autist.
Punk has always been "progressive" and anti-establishment, that's kinda the point. You're deluded if you think Black Flag was ever /pol/. It's possible to be a leftist and not be nu-male, which is essentially what punk is.
>>64291763
>obese
>bigot
>tripfag
good god
>>64296555
>anti-establishment
but nowadays the establishment is marxist and anti-white.
>>64296555
punk is essentially about being edgy for the sake of itself in the most lazy, obvious, inherited way
"fuck fascism!!"
>>64296590
l m a o
no
>>64296591
but fascism is bad anon
>>64296555
they're too wrapped up in memes to understand
i unironically fear for the future where all these meme-obsessed /pol/ neo-neo-neo-conservative children grow up to vote and run things
>>64296610
fascism is just a clunky attempt at conceiving and acting on what is life itself realized
>>64296555
>Punk has always been "progressive" and anti-establishment
but the stablishment is literally leftest liberal cuck buckets right now
progressives ARE the establishment
>>64296637
aka, it's only flaw is that humans can never realize such perfection, it's romanticism that forgets the inherent tragedy and flawedness of humanity.
as such I'd call myself a romantic, but there's much I quite love about fascism
>>64296615
what is Trump's popularity
>>64296447
If you want to view examples of the left becoming fascist just view SJW university politics.
>>64296637
Fascism is not about hatred or discrimination, but about loving and supporting your own race. I simply don't want my people to die out. How does that make me 'evil'?
>>64296615
they're not gonna run shit, the real threat comes from their equivalents on the left, they're the ones with actual influence
both of them are just different paths in the opposite direction away from personal freedom and individualism
>>64291763
I can see why people say you're an insufferable faggot now, stick to memeing about Lavren please
>>64296590
>>64296656
It isn't though, that's a very warped 4chan perspective. He was arguing against the literal establishment in that article - you know, an actual governor. The "establishment" isn't just whatever you don't like or what's popular amongst outspoken teens on social media.
The fact a few major media sources/creators have started pandering to young leftists to take advantage of them and make some profit doesn't make those political views the "establishment."
>>64296615
Agreed. It's a very basic high school mentality. Leftists are the cool kids at the moment and 4chan is upset and unable to see the bigger picture.
>>64296701
I don't think that's evil. I think that's the truth behind every culture, whether they admit it or not. I support every culture to feel that way, it's fair game, healthy, beautiful.
That's why I say that fascism is just life. Women go for strong capable men. Men must compete in the world. Peoples and cultures love those like themselves and are just trying to survive and thrive and realize their own image in the world.
When I say it is clunky, I just mean that the aesthetic-cultural vision of a person or people shouldn't expect reality to perfectly mould itself so easily to that vision, it's a struggle and always an imperfect one and a work-in-progress. But it's still right... because it's just... reality.
when will the /pol/ kiddies stop leaking into other boards again
is it because it's an election year?
>>64296884
>But it's still right... because it's just... reality.
I mean that this essential struggle of existing and thriving is reality.
When people are all "it's not fair... give me, GIVE ME!" I just think, "COMPETE MOTHERFUCKER, LIFE IS NOT NICE. YOU WANT IT, STEP IT UP"
>>64291495
That's true. They also have sex with dead bodies.
theguardian com/education/2005/mar/08/highereducation.research
>>64296939
So the Jew media force that on the ducks too?
>>64296939
I'm sure the progressive crowd will get to that cause eventually
>>64296893
/pol/ kids like music too
>>64296893
Yeah some people have lives and care about what will happen to the world. It's not like people here only browse one board on only one website. At least I hope that's not what you do... If so I'm so sorry bra
>>64296413
I am actually a physicist. I am also sorta bisexual (it's complicated), but it doesn't mean I would ever support lefties. I'm from Russia, alright. We've seen where their rhetorics lead.
>>64296447
The Left-Right political spectrum should go. I mean, where do you put Islamists? National Bolshevics? Greens (there are Green nazis too, you know)? The main measure, in my opinion, is how much freedom does an ideology suggest. On such scale fascism is hardly distinguishable from communism, while capitalism seems much more appealing.
>Judicious application of socialist ideas gives anyone who is genuinely talented the opportunity to succeed
But it will never work. Like it didn't work previous 100 times. https://youtu.be/7dAmroKyzGY Socialism is a delusion.
>>64296893
it's because 4chan is getting majority redpilled, haven't you noticed?
>>64296954
No they didn't but it's looks dumb as shit because they do it in hope they can reproduce.
>>64296977
Yes, but there's been an undeniable influx of them as of late.
>>64296982
>he's trying to use the 'I have a life' argument and says he uses multiple boards on this shithole
Get a better argument and stop being retarded friend
>>64297002
It's getting obnoxious tbqh
>>64296893
>>64296991
>I'm from Russia, alright.
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>>64297029
>It's getting obnoxious tbqh
in all likelihood it'll happen to you too, honestly. it's a simple matter of seeing the statistics
>>64297035
I'm not from Russia m8
thank fuck
>>64296615
on an everyday level, 18-23 year old liberal females are the worst people in the country.
they troll openly but can't even admit it. they just have an attitude like "well that's life, now you understand how it feels, etc etc." but it's like... no that's not life. you're just being a fucking asshole. there's still such a thing as being a fucking asshole.
>>64297059
>in all likelihood it'll happen to you too, honestly. it's a simple matter of seeing the statistics
lol. /pol/ is statistically illiterate
>>64297059
I may be retarded, but I'm not that retarded
>>64297095
holy /r9k/ batman, what a post
>>64297029
>Get a better argument and stop being retarded friend
Ok I have a better one. Music and politics go hands in hands. Almost every genres can be associated with a political philosophy. Just look at punk, metal, hip-hop, electronic music (yup there's a reasoning behind the vaporwave asthetic). It's all related, you like a certain type of music because you relate to it wether it's political, philosophical, maybe it just sounds good to your ears which would mean you don't care about politics (which is a statement in itself).
>>64297149
This is a completely fair post that I agree with. Now /pol/tards just need to actually discuss their ideas as they're relevant to music and they'll actually be worth having around here.
>>64297095
They're just loud. Go outside every once in a while, the average woman barely has any interest in politics never mind an aggressively left wing agenda. College kids have always had and will always have left wing politics. It's actually quite a standard reaction to being exposed to new ways of thinking, which people are at this age. Maybe it's just more visible to you because now they have facebook, twitter and god knows how many other platforms to parrot their opinions. Try not to get so triggered by it lol
>>64297035
It's not like I wouldn't enjoy watching America getting ruined by lefties. Go on, step on that rake.
>>64294095
Ya know, there's a magical place called Eastern Europe where that rule does not apply.
>>64297193
Not sure that's going to happen since their main interest is politics but yeah...
>>64288421
lol
>right wing conservative reactionary
>punk rock
just fucking lol
>>64297209
your english is very good but sadly I don't think you're right that letting trans people in the toilet equates to an October revolution
>>64297097
I swallowed some of it, have to say, but not all of it.
I bet that 80% of /pol/ didn't expect to go that way when they first approached that board. probably thought they could troll and even cointelpro /pol/, but as one anon one time said, /pol/ cointelpros YOU.
it's not just a bunch of dumb propaganda, it's really a steady diet of all the information that you realize are very very actively kept out of the media - incredibly despiriting - and you start to get a sense of it all coming down to a corporate neoliberal globalist agenda vs those who still want some degree of the local and vernacular. as someone who enjoys travel and culture, I find myself siding with the latter.
I don't buy into the 'jews are evil' idea or 'blacks are all criminals' memes, but the globalist issue is very real and central, and I really haven't yet heard a convincing argument as to why globalization is supposed to be a desirable situation for anyone.
>>64291076
well said, really
About to read this thread
What am I in for???
>>64297227
far better than america imo. they are economically fucked because of communism and left-wing jewish oligarchs but they got good traditional christian values and no 'diversity'
>>64294508
Why can't chinks be creative with last names
>>64297272
I think that could be said for repeatedly visiting and interacting with any community though. Had you visited one equally left wing you probably would be more left right now.
>>64297314
feces
>>64291076
He still got paid though the lazy fuck.
>>64297314
dialectical gridlock
there's no getting through the culture war
>The article – titled 'North Carolina, I Love You, But Your Governor Is An Asshole'
I love him but the irony of Rollins calling literally anyone an asshole. lol
>>64297314
bio-marxists btfo repeatedly
He's always been a pretty weak man. That's why he gets assmad easily, that's why he has a punk band to rage and whine about things, that's why he now goes around attempting spoken word, being a glorified motivational speaker, and doing interviews for people who still care what he has to say. Guy's physically tough though and has deep blue puppy dog eyes if you're into that.
>>64297326
that's not true, I live in the thick of progressivism and have always been connected to various very leftist networks.
I've been feeding myself their ideas for years now and was very open to it and supportive, but I ultimately care about what's right and achieving it effectively, not about being left or right for the sake of itself... and seeing the dysfunction and dishonesty in the left over the years first disillusioned me to their tactics, then their fundamental theories. there are many things about me I actually side on them on, but not for the same philosophical reasons, and with the same assumptions about how reality works. as far as my giving 'right wing' ideas a chance, I'm just as skeptical there and disgusted with all the Trump shit and whatnot, but I really agree that globalism is a bad idea. for me it's coming from the same place that I have sympathy for all indigenous people. I'm also a huge environmentalist though.
but the gender shit, all that... such a distraction imo
>>64288653
they make some good vore so I deal with it
>>64297447
this
>>64288653
>marxism is hella based
>>64294135
just have non-gender bathrooms. boom. suddenly we don't need to build a damn thing and the problem is solved. woweee!
>>64297427
I don't have a grudge against the guy but he is a dick. And there's two videos of him being a dick:
1. Girl makes a reference. He immediately walks up to her and tells her how much of a hipster she is (when she's obviously a big fan of him) and all sorts of assumptions about her. He got that assmad, that quick, for no good reason.
2. Kid interviews him in the 80s. You've probably seen it. You'd think, Gee at least he's grown up, but that mentality is still an underlying part of him. He's just a shitty person all around.
>>64297506
this
also gender in itself is pointless, just give it the boot already like all other shit ideas
>>64296867
>The "establishment" isn't just whatever you don't like or what's popular amongst outspoken teens on social media.
lol
>government has gone ultra liberal
>media has gone ultra liberal
>academic institutions have gone ultra liberal
HURR DURR DA ESTABLISHMENT IS NOT LIBERAL DOE
fuck off idiot
In the US right now.......liberals are the establishment
>>64297542
the US is center to nearly far right friendo, good job buying into memes though
>>64287594
Will you fucking leave the board already Montie? Nobody likes you, and you have done nothing but contribute jack fucking shit to /mu/. Please step away from the computer and go stare at your donkey instead. It'll do good for all of us.
>>64297247
Thank you.
It's all about precedents. Americans have already ignored their Constitution once to enforce same sex marriages (I'm okay with marriage itself, but the court's verdict was literally unconstitutional). It won't be long until they start arresting people for expressing their opinions like it already happens in Europe. Or they would ban guns. What would stop them?
After all, I think that it is toilet owner's decision whether he wants to allow or forbid men to use women's toilet, not government's.
>>64288653
>furries aren't that bad, they're responsible for some great porn. marxism is also hella based.
>furries aren't that bad
>>64288903
>>64297710
hello SA
>>64297542
then why's it passing an anti-LGBT law
>>64297693
>he arbitrarily values absurd property rights over the good of the people
lmao
>>64297542
Again, you're mistaking a few high profile organisations who are simply out for easy profit for the establishment. Both law makers and the average American are not leftists or SJWs. I know it's fun and important to have a purpose and something to stand against, but find somethings better, for your own good.
>>64297564
There are literally less than maybe 15 countries in the world out of over 200 countries that are more left-wing than the US government.
>>64298062
should clarify, I meant by the standards of developed countries
All Punk musicians are pussy whipped cucks. I love how people always said back then "you didn't fuck with the punk rock fans", but in truth the only "big menacing guy" was the overweight faggot.
Punk rockers would get their asses kicked by metalheads any day of the week
>>64297447
You have to go back
[spoiler]but they actually do, well some of them[/spoiler]
>>64294356
top fucking kek
>>64298097
Even by those standards it's still not right wing it's most likely dead center, if not just left of center.
>>64292604
Except /pol/ is right a good amount of the time. Only people who hate /pol/ are butthurt progressive millennials voting for Bernie Sanders
>>64298192
>no universal health care
>extreme war on drugs
>strong conservative religious presence in politics
>extreme military spending
nah
>>64298202
nice meme
>>64298202
>progressive
>voting for Bernie Sanders
sure. Did you have anything bad to say about me?
>>64298262
why do you want to condemn your future white children to live as second class citizens in a marxist sharia tranny dystopia
>>64298297
this bait doesn't deserve to be bitten
>>64292639
>makes me embarrassed for us all as humans.
>>/reddit/
>>64298334
you forgot a meme arrow there friend! have one on me ;)
>
>>64298297
it's a small price for him to pay as long as he gets to feel 'smarter' than working class whites, you see
>>64298231
Sup Carl
>>64298262
Yeah, you're an idiot who won't wake up to reality.
1. Socialism doesn't work. And if you say "Oh but it works in Sweden and Denmark", go ask the poor souls over there paying extreme high amounts of taxes. And the only reason Denmark is so 'happy' is because they're popped up on anti-depressants the doctors their hand out like candy
2. Universal Health Care doesn't' work. The NHS in the UK is a joke. You sometimes have to wait months just to get a normal doctors appointment.
3. $15 for minimum wage doesn't work. It hurts businesses in the long run, and this is a proven fact
4. Taxing the 1% to death isn't gonna get rid of all our debt, you're a deluded fool to believe that.
5. Social Justice Warriors are the most hate filled, most vile people out there. You think the right wingers are bad? Take a look in the mirror. You people yell down anyone who you think is wrong, you refuse to listen to reason, you assault people, you threaten people, and you get so damn triggered every little thing offends you.
You're going to end up getting cucked later in life buddy.
>>64298297
Its too late for him. He's probably typing from his "safe space" area at his university
>>64298384
god damn people aren't kidding about an influx of /pol/ teens, this gad to have taken too much effort to type for it to be bait
also excellent stale meme there friendo
>>64298384
Yeah we're gonna need credible citations to all those 5 claims
>>64298384
>if you say "Oh but it works in Sweden and Denmark", go ask the poor souls over there paying extreme high amounts of taxes
yeah that's very much part of the deal. I want more taxes, it empowers public services
literally all your other points are just obviously false
>>64290471
Honestly
>>64298423
>Points out logical facts
>HE MUST BE A TEENAGER!!!!!!
Sorry friendo, not everyone over 18 is a Progressive cuck like you
>>64298442
>yeah that's very much part of the deal. I want more taxes, it empowers public services
>I want more taxes, it empowers public services
>empowers public services
I have nothing to say about this, other than you are so fucking deluded in lala land. I hope you enjoy barely earning enough money because you have to pay most of it to your government while they go help out Muhammad and Tyrone. People in Sweden would kill to pay the taxes we pay here in the US
>>64298540
yes, I am aware that immigrants get a lot of the taxes because they have no money
this does not upset me because I see them as
wait for it
valuable people
>>64298540
No, your inability to understand that my post wasn't a statement of what I necessarily found correct (in addition to that shit meme) is what outed you as a teenager, at least mentally.
>>64298231
>Universal gay marriage
>Affirmative action for women and minorities to help them
>Some of the most liberal abortion laws in the world, even with republican state restrictions
>Anti-discrimination laws
>Hate crime legislation
>Legalization and decriminalization of marijuana across the US
>Legal rights to transgenders in numerous states
>A generous welfare state(higher % of GDP spent than Canada)
>Strong environmental protection laws
You seem to think that Sweden is somehow representative of what most developed countries are, when that's just not so.
>>64298540
>logical facts
no
>you have to pay most of it to your government
no
>People in Sweden would kill to pay the taxes we pay here in the US
no
>>64298540
>>Points out logical facts
Show them then.
Show your credible citations.
>>64298570
I love you anon.
>>64298570
>valuable people
Ok Sven
http://pamelageller.com/2015/11/uk-14-muslim-men-accused-of-gang-rape-with-13-year-old-girl.html/
http://www.frontpagemag.com/point/175434/1-4-swedish-women-will-be-raped-sexual-assaults-daniel-greenfield
http://www.allenbwest.com/ashleyedwardson/mainstream-media-wont-tell-you-why-sweden-is-now-rape-capital-of-the-west
https://www.darkmoon.me/2016/muslim-migrants-in-germany-rape-russian-child-for-30-hours-then-get-massacred-by-angry-russians-in-reprisal/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35231046
>>64298588
So let me get this straight: Because I don't share your liberal viewpoint I'm a teenager? Because if I read your post right, that's exactly what you just said, and it further backs up my viewpoint that liberals will just yell and scream in your face and tell you that you're wrong I'm right
>>64298570
>this does not upset me because I see them as
>wait for it
>valuable people
ohohohohoho
>>64298614
Yes, but most of those are to a lesser degree than elsewhere, even other European countries than Sweden
>>64298657
No, my post was about the fact that the US was comparatively right wing. It had nothing to do with my own personal views other than that you fucktard. Try thinking about something outside your tinfoil hat and maybe you'd develop decent reading comprehension.
>>64298727
What are you even talking about? Now you're just making shit up as you go along to sound smart.
>>64298746
My post is >>64298231
You responded with "Hi Carl" because apparently you can't actually give a non-meme response to somebody.
>>64298657
I do not care about statistics it's just a basic christian sense of valuing other people's lives. You choose to hate people over statistics - that's called racism and it's not a good trait
>>64295911
But that's not the point.
Gender is a BIOLOGICAL occurrence that has been formed through sexual dimorphism, not a social construct.
>>64298839
sex and gender are not the same thing. read a book.
next
>>64298837
>being this spooked
wew lad
>>64298839
in what way is it a biological occurrence
see >>64298864 and also consider the fact that there are cultures that have three genders
>>64298837
Say that to the women who were raped by those "innocent little migrants". Say it to their faces that the rapist's lives are valuable.
Fact is, Muslims in the Middle East CAN and WILL NOT assimilate. They are thought from birth Islam is everything, and Sharia Law is the only law that matters, not the law of the nation they live in. That's why there are no go zones in Belgium, the UK, Sweden and France. These are simple facts.
Ask any Muslim to condemn Sharia Law, which is pure misogynistic, barbaric, pro-pedophilia, and honestly racist, and they simply will not do it.
>>64298864
>"this deeply leftist text with a blatant agenda written by a dyke asserts that gender and sex are not related, without demonstrating any scientific evidence, but simple recourse to other politically-biased gay theorists"
YES I AM FULLY CONVINCED NOW, THANK YOU
>>64298890
It's a biological occurance because it has been created and molded by sexual dimorphism and natural selection. It's not some oppressive thing that the men came up with one day, it's ingrained into our minds because of evolution.
>>64296447
Ben Carson was born into a household below the poverty line, raised by a single mother, and became an Ivy League educated neurosurgeon
>>64298922
we are not talking about the rapists you stupid little shit we are talking about the immigrants overall. I can guarantee that the average immigrant's life is worth much more to me than a hateful shutin neckbeard like yourself
Muslims do assimilate, almost all of them do condemn Sharia law and "no go zones" do not exist. I live in the UK.
>>64299001
you literally do not know what gender means so you have nothing to be angry about. If when I say gender you read it as sex then you have no idea what I'm saying
>>64299012
The occurrence of gender has certainly been shaped by sexual dimorphism but it is not innately linked to it. Also ignoring the memey bit because it adds nothing of use to your post.
>>64299001
You don't need academic texts for it, evidence has naturally occurred in some cultures completely detached from western academia
Examples can be found at the Wikipedia page for Third Gender
>>64298727
>Yes, but most of those are to a lesser degree than elsewhere
You're showing your ignorance. Look at a map of countries where gay marriage is legal, look at a map of countries where drugs are legal or decriminalized, take an actually look at what welfare is in places like Germany. You'll see that the US is to the left in many ways.
The metric for comparison is absurd, you compare the US against a handful of European countries that have welfare states that are more robust to varying degrees as use that a justification to pretend that makes that US somehow far-right. Comparing it to fellow NATO countries, OECD countries, the G20, GDP per-capita, etc the US falls very much in the center or left-of-center and not at all to the right or far-right.
>>64299111
those are primitive non-white cultures, though, we might as well live in mud-huts and sacrifice infants to the river god, then?
>>64299170
That's irrelevant to the fact that such cultures prove gender is a concept that develops separately from sex by their existence. Nice try at deflecting though.
>>64299111
So it's shaped by it but "not innately linked"?
What is that supposed to mean? You proved my point.
>>64299170
jesus christ these reasoning skills are how you people end up on /pol/
>>64298727
>>64298231
Also Nicaragua, Venezuela, Argentina(until very recently), Brazil, Bolivia, and Ecuador are arguably more left-wing than the US.
Are you going to tell me that the poor are as protected in those states? That sexual and racial/ethnic minorities are given as much protection and as many equal rights? That transgenders have as many rights there as in the US? That consideration for religion plays a larger part in US politics than there? That abortion laws are more generous there? That women have more rights in those leftist countries than in the US?
Try and get some perspective some time.
>>64299292
Gender as a social construct exists separately from sex. It largely evolves from it, but as time goes on it can easily become completely detached from it (it just generally doesn't.)
>>64299381
They're economically liberal rather than socially liberal. There's a difference.
>>64299391
>it can easily become completely detached from it
why would you even want such a thing? thats gross
>>64299455
I've not stated my opinion on whether or not I'd want that to happen, I've only said it was possible.
>>64298423
Nice refutations m8
>>64298442
And I don't, because I like being able to take home more money at the end of the day, but I guess that doesn't matter since you want to force me to do the "right" thing
>>64299433
I guess you're trying to say they're economically left-wing? Because economically liberal doesn't describe Venezuela and I don't think you know what it means.
Secondly so what? So those leftist countries don't count now? I want you to list all the countries that you think the US is to the right of so we can see how far right the US really is.
>>64298621
Actually you do pay a good amount of it to the government in Sweden, just income tax is 57%. No thank you
http://www.tradingeconomics.com/sweden/personal-income-tax-rate
>>64298864
>read a book
How about recommending something to read instead of the classic SJW "educate yourself" response.
>>64299623
just a wikipedia or even dictionary definition of gender would do, you don't really need any background knowledge
>>64299551
well of course I want to force you to do the right thing
you're not entitled to keep your money from the poor people who need it
fuck you
>>64299623
good to know you're able to justify your anti-intellectualism with a stereotype anon
>>64299680
you should be focusing on getting rid of money in itself tee bee ayche
>>64299680
>you're not entitled to keep your money from the poor people who need it
Actually I am
>>64299659
Made up definitions by tranny wiki mods that cite sources as papers written by tranny women's studies majors?
>>64299784
better than whatever nonsensical made up definition you hold anon, at least theirs makes a logical distinction between sex and gender
>>64299765
>good to know you're able to justify your anti-intellectualism with a stereotype anon
I'm not you retard, it is a classic SJW response and is pure retardation because it expects to know where I should be looking to "educate myself". Providing sources is always nice, but I guess that's too much work for some people
>>64299784
we are talking about a DEFINITION of a WORD. this is not a big scientific claim.
it doesn't even need sources at all/ anyone who can speak english should know what gender means
>>64299827
Looking at the post you responded to that's a fair point, but you could easily look up "distinction between sex and gender" and have various perspectives on what you need to know
I remember threads about Cosmo qucikly getting deleted for "not being about vidya" on /v/, but the exact same sort of thing goes past bump limit on /mu/. This board is a trash bin
>>64299912
>uses /v/
>has an opinion
>>64299912
blame no fun mods deleting everything other than obvious /pol/b8
>cut your balls off and shove your dick inside you to make a vagina
>this somehow magically changes your DNA
>retarded people actually believe this
>>64299843
I don't recognize gender as a separate thing from sex. Gender expression can be masculine or feminine, but you'll always either be male or female .
Here's what pops up when I search gender definition btw.
>the state of being male or female
>>64299970
>biological sex and physical sex is the same thing
>retarded people actually believe this
>>64299145
If you're going to argue that the U.S. is socially democratic, that's fair. If you're trying to say that the U.S. isn't significantly more militaristic and capitalistic than the vast vast majority of Europe, then don't accuse others of ignorance.
>>64300002
>people actually believe that changing yourself physically will change you biologically
>>64300059
They don't you fucktard, that's the exact opposite of what I said
>>64300072
Then why do they always preach about "well I just FEEL like i'm supposed to be the other gender!" if not wanting to be seen as the other in every way?
>>64299994
>I don't recognize gender as a separate thing from sex.
well obviously you can't understand transexuality you stupid prick
the whole problem is that the person's gender and sex are different
if you refuse to believe gender means anything but "the state of being male or female" then you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about or what is going on in the world
it's not a brave political stance it's just blind ignorance
>>64300137
Good to see yet another idiot doesn't understand the definitional difference between sex and gender
>>64300174
Good to see you didn't answer my fucking question and just went right to insults.
>>64300003
>militaristic and capitalistic than the vast vast majority of Europe
More militaristic than Russia which invaded Ukraine and Georgia? More militaristic than Serbia which genocides it's neighbor just two decades ago? More militaristic than the UK and France which were the primairy driving forces behind the NATO bombings in Libya and pushed for a Syrian intervention? More militaristic than Europe, which make up 7 out of the top 10 arms exporting countries?
More capitalistic than Eastern Europe? What metric do you even measure how capitalistic a country is? By how easy or not easy it is get shitloads of welfare? Is that the only way you think? By metric of state intervention in industry and the economy the US isn't terribly capitalistic itself.
You see your problem is that you have decided the US is "right-wing" because it sounds good to you and justifies you feelings of the left being somehow marginalized in developed western countries, when it really isn't. And thus you refuse to concede any facts that point to the contrary.
So please, list me the countries the US is more right wing than. It's not a very large list, I can assure you.
>>64288718
See, everyone needs to learn from this person!
>>64300407
No, everybody needs to learn from >>64297506
>>64300153
>well obviously you can't understand transexuality you stupid prick
Trannies, if they are real, believe their sex is wrong. If it was all a gender social construct they wouldn't need to inject their bodies with hormones, get sex changes, and plastic surgery to more fit the appearance of a natural man or woman.
They can attempt to change their sex, and potentially succeed for most intents and purposes. But their gender won't change unless their sex changes.
>>64300461
>Trannies, if they are real
what
Also your post makes no sense, the reason they change their physical sex is for it to match that which is typically found with their gender
>>64300530
The argument people use to justify transgenderdom is that it's physiological, that their brain makeup is that of a woman's if they are born male and that of a man's if they are born female. Sex is biological.
If there is no physiological basis, then they're no different from otherkin and transracialists.
>>64300461
these words are being used wrong
I refuse to muddle through such bad english to work out what you mean
look up what gender means and then try again
>>64300606
very few people believe there is a physiological basis. transexual people are still really transexual people, they have a psychological gender identity that is wrong for their sex
>>64300664
Then I assume you accept Rachel Dozeal as black and other-kin as their preferred species as well?
>>64300684
ebin strawmanning and good job completely ignoring his post
>>64300606
the vast majority of them make a psychological argument rather than a physiological one
I gotta say, there are times when I'm at /mu/ and it feels like I'm visiting either Tumblr or /pol/. Both of you get the fuck out and go shit on each other somewhere else.
>>64300729
>ebin strawmanning and good job completely ignoring his post
If you believe that transgernderdom is valid even if there is no physiological basis then you have no reason to not accept other-kin or transracialists.
You'll look back on your current close mindedness towards those people's plights in a decade or two and feel very ashamed. Just gotta wait till the cultural taste makers decide to tell you to care about them. Or maybe that will be a push too far even for you by that age.
>>64300684
>>64300829
I would be perfectly happy to call Rachel Dolezal a black woman, because from what I read she did have a real dysphoria about her old race
>>64300824
>le superior opinionless moderate man
shitposty politics bait threads need to go though
>>64300829
actually I'd personally say that gender in itself is a retarded concept and that rather than fighting over it's arbitrary nuances people should be trying to rid society of it alltogether, but good job strawmanning once again and inaccurately assuming my opinion matched said strawman
>>64300684
>>64300829
thinking about it, I'd be happy to call an otherkin a dog or whatever as well even if the dysphoria was not real. What reason do I have to not call them what they want me to call them?
your position has always presumed that I should hate people for being weird
>>64301109
>What reason do I have to not call them what they want me to call them?
Probably not to encourage their mental illness?
>>64301234
>illness
wew
