Action Bronson has once again been cancelled from an American college.
http://pitchfork.com/news/64973-action-bronson-removed-from-another-college-concert/
JUST
fucking hell. I hate people my age. I cant believe these people can vote now
CANCEL
>>64250257
This is the second time in about a month that this has happened to him specifically. Probably one of the most tame rappers out there really.
College kids are fucking dorks man
I thought college kids liked edgy rap music.
>>64250257
>"It is not only certain songs by Action Bronson that go against the school’s mission. The very act of bringing him to this campus runs counter to the College’s obligation to protect the emotional and physical safety of its students.
hahahah. I pray for the Day of the Donald, where all them wusses and SJWs are to be dragged away to Camp FEMA
at least you;re not going to miss out on decent music
>>64250378
I'm not American so I don't really pay attention to your politics. What are his thoughts and views on all of this social justice shit?
I'm a pretty hard left leaning libertarian but goddamn shit like this . JUST
>>64250467
>hard left leaning libertarian
What makes you have this thought process? What makes you hate conservatives views?
I don't know about Trinity but when I was in college we had tons of people all the time doing like religious sermons in the main park and one time there were even people protesting against abortion there with signs with pictures of dead fetuses on them. If they are allowed to do that then this whole "but muh ideals" shit in regards to rappers' lyrics or shit like Viet Cong's name is retarded. I guess the people who get upset at rap lyrics are just more vocal than those that don't like seeing pictures of dead fetuses on their way to classes though.
I don't even like Bronson, but this shit is getting ridiculous.
>>64250526
That's the thing about these cry bullies. They pick and choose what to be offended by as long as it fits their world view.
>>64250497
hardcore conservatives would also likely ban Action Bronson.
>>64250497
>What makes you hate conservatives views
I dont at all.
It's mainly due to perceived class inequality and economic reasons. Im also not american keep that in mind
>>64250411
he's a populist demagogue with little in the way of coherent views. oddly enough, he seems to go against conservative orthodoxy on lgbt rights, though he has also capitalised massively on anti-PC ressentment. It's hard to tell what Trump actually thinks, as he tends to contradict himself all the time. He has become a larger-than-life icon that means different things to different people.
>America
>>64250567
>class inequality and economic reasons
do explain, i'm interested
>>64250363
>>64250367
>>64250541
It's literally because he's white. You can accuse me of being /pol/ all you want, bu the plain and simple truth is that violent/misogynist hip hop lyrics only come under fire by the media if the performers in question are white.
>niggers rapping about killing cops
>"WEW YEAH PROGRESSIVE"
>white guy raps about getting some head
>"YOU ARE THE MOST EVIL PERSON ALIVE. BANNED!"
and people wonder why people snap and go on killing sprees
>>64250607
Well, I mean there's little evidence to use against you. I could argue about Tyler the Creator's getting banned from australia, but his lyrics were far worse than Bronson's
>>64250257
>http://pitchfork.com/news/64973-action-bronson-removed-from-another-college-concert/
Fuck, my uni is literally a few miles away from AC and GWU, we would love to have him play here.
Is this fair to the people who wanted to see him perform?
>emotional and physical safety of our students
>>64250607
This is incontrovertibly true
Remember kids, it's racist to criticize black people
>>64250719
HERE WE GO
BRACE FOR IMPACT
>>64250689
not at all. The regressive left seem to forget that choice is an option. No one is forcing anyone to listen to his music. There are plenty of speakers i totally disagree with - but i would never start at petition to have them banned. I believe in choice and free speech.
>>64250607
here in germany 90% of the rappers are white and they rap about the same things if not worse and achieve crazy popularity but you are right
>>64250603
not him, but also left libertarian. personally i've been influenced by reading up on corporate corruption. Take for example the tobacco industry's deliberate and well-documented cover-up of smoking risks, or the huge influence of the military industrial complex. A system based solely on maximising profits tends to be terrible for everything else. I'm an individualist and not really on board with any sort of identity politics, imo just another way to control people
>>64250786
>corruption
The reason I don't care about any of this shit is not because I'm ignorant and lazy, it's because at the point any of these global huge conglomerates are way too big to fight.
>>64250786
>i read a book so im against corporate corruption
>>64250601
Get raped and kill yourself, you retarded fucking faggot sack of shit with down syndrome.
>>64250816
>I base all my political views on what I see on the internet
5 more years of it lads, then kids start telling these sensitive cry babies to fuck off
>>64250845
Come and do it for me. Oh wait... can you afford a plane ticket to New Zealand?
>>64250869
>not moving to based Australia.
hell be fine
>>64250886
>based Australia
maybe i've been getting bad information, but doesn't australia have some of the most batshit leftists in the world?
Why doesn't he just play the Islamophobia card?
It's CURRENT YEAR, people, we can't just allow white college students to discriminate against Albanians.
>>64251001
Yes
>>64250854
>5 more years of it lads,
Don't wait, start now
Some other college near there should have him play there.
Itt: a bunch of keyboard warriors pretend that Bronson didn't pour water on a transexual for being a transexual then brag about harrassing "it" online
Gotta protect the narrative guys we're better than the SJWs keep it up! It's okay when we ignore the facts we're just using their tactics against them!
>>64251012
if dubs this happens
>>64251125
Tranny didn't seem to mind
what the fuck is wrong with you young americans
>>64250467
>libertarian
no you're not
>still performing at colleges
Lol when comedians like Jerry fucking Seinfeld is too much for you to handle then youre just a fucking pussy.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/08/jerry-seinfeld-politically-correct-college-campuses
>>64251125
You're right, he shouldn't be allowed to perform ever again for making one mistake.
>>64251125
Cool post-purchase rationalization bruh
>The statement explained that Bronson was selected to play in November, and they actually wanted to remove him at the end of March, following the GW decision, "because of his lyrics, music, videos, and the misogyny, homophobia, and transphobia that they promote."
They explicitly state that they're banning him because of his lyrics.
>>64250257
fuck fat annoying fat fuck fuck him and his shit music.
>>64250786
You should check out Donald Trump then. What you describe is globalist policies that both neocons and neolibs like both Bush and Obama support
Sending jobs overseas to get slave labor for corporations, big banks fucking over developing nations, hiding tax money overseas, toppling regimes for corporate gains.
Seriously check out Donald Trump's policies on this he agrees with you and wants to end it and bring jobs back to America.
I agree with Bernie on this issue too but I don't think democratic socialism is good, so I'm on the Trump Train.
>>64251188
Who said that, I'm sure he'll be more than welcome to perform at other places like the Anthony Cumia network
>emotional and physical safety
>emotional safety
we are truly the worst generation.
hahahahahahahahahahahahhhahahahhahaha good
>>64251125
who cares? Trannies have a mental illness and should be stigmatized.
If we wanted to help them we wouldn't let them live their lie we would try to get them help like we do for anorexics or bulimics, instead we encourage them to destroy their bodies. Suicide rate doesn't change before to after surgery. Even John's Hopkins and WHO agrees with me here
>>64251125
So he should be barred from ever performing again? Many beloved musicians have done far, far worse that what he did
>>64251125
Was already confirmed that it wasn't a tranny, and even if it was, trannies are gross and deserve to be shunned
>>64251248
BUT BRO WE ARE OUR EMOTIONS, IF WE CAN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE INSIDE, HOW CAN WE FEEL COMFORTABLE AT ALL?
>>64251197
Wow it's almost the fact that he practices what he preaches makes him a legitimately dangerous individual! No it's gotta be the thought police someone call Milo, gotta rally the conservative blogs behind my freeze peaches!
>>64251282
>>64251275
wow fucking hivemind nice job anon
>>64251293
pouring a bottle of water on a drunk degenerate is not hurting them in any way you faggot
>>64251293
Well said, comrade! Problematic authors must be purged!
>>64251282
Oh that makes the anti transexual motivations and shaming A-OK then! Glad we could get some epic redpilling in this thread Mr. Bronson would be proud!
>>64251275
>>64251282
>>64251341
kys
>>64251341
Go back to your gender studies class you fool
>>64251354
e d g y
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>>64251353
no argument eh? Someone disagrees with your worldviews so we should ban them eh?
>>64251341
pls shut the fuck up
>>64251320
Routinely otherizing, victimizing and shaming minority individuals is what drives them to depression and suicide dumbass. If you fail to realize that then you're welcome to kick and scream while modern society leaves you behind
At least that cooking show is going well cause his career is fugged
>>64251341
>>64251293
transparent shitposting here. subtlety is your friend
>>64251197
Honest question. Why don't other rappers get as much shit for their lyrics?
>>64251377
they're probably trans so odds are they will anyways. But yeah, those who wish to censor others because of their views should off themselves for the good of society
>doing things to trannies is bad now
>>64250257
>regressive left prove themselves to be humourless fascists once again
Stop the presses
>>64251293
Wow, your sarcasm almost makes it seem like you have a good point.
Wow... just wow
How's everyone doing today?
>>64251387
nah 20 times higher than the national average is the highest suicide rate of any marginalized group in history. They are also more likely to have other mental diseases. It's definitely a mental illness just admit it
>>64251299
>>64251353
nope, people are waking up. getting tired of all the marxism getting shoved down kids throats 24/7
>>64251430
the hivemind comment was in response to my own comment and another anon's just FYI I was in agreement with him
ITS A /pol/ COMES TO /mu/ THREAD
>>64250658
I saw him live when he was actually thirsty. You're missing nothing.
>>64251428
Didn't the jews under the nazis have less of a suicide rate? I mean if you're gonna talk about oppression...
>>64251484
>it's a montie posts episode
>>64251484
it's like grandpa's wacked out conservative chainmails have come to life
>>64251509
>its another anon
ugh, just adopt a trip already
>>64251505
exactly, there's no way people can claim the suicide rate is due solely to oppression. That's ridiculous there's clearly something else going on here and no one wants to address it
>>64251484
>>64251511
>anything that isn't 100% liberal is /pol/ or whacked out
grow up
>>64251509
I still can't believe Phil Elverum gave up his life as an indie folk singer to become a full-time haiku writer/shitposter on twitter
>>64251525
kys attention whore. You're posting on a Tawainese sweat-shop rebellion forum for attention how pathetic is your life right now?
>>64251511
Yeah why won't they let us ban these mildly opposing views from our universities? Ughhh they're so close-minded
>>64251525
>it's a "I like çuck porn sometimes ironically but I am not a çuck" poster
ugh just fuck off to reddit already
>>64251511
the young generation is sick of the degeneracy. i have 12 year old sister and liberals want to let a whacked out pervert on a skirt in girls bathroom? no. seriously that's mental illness, that's some satanic shit, you can choose your 'gender' like it was just another flavor of iced cream at the soda fountain? its part of what makes us really human.
>>64251550
Don't forget about fancy people stories
But seriously new Phil when? He released two in 2012, maybe he's working on something new
>>64251594
identity politics are so funny. If you can't tell someone what their gender is, how can you tell them what race they identify as?
I could just mark African American on everything to get bonus points on aid, scholarships, and entry.
>>64250257
Action Bronson is a terrible person and meh musician. I don't mind this simply because I don't like him.
Also being transgender is a mental illness, they need to be treated with respect just like anyone else. Treated like people, and treated for their condition. Which often calls for hormone replacement and surgery.
>>64251149
honestly best post in this thread.
>>64251634
well it seems gender dysphoria is a thing, considering how many of them kill themselves
>>64251648
The suicide rate for post op transsexuals is just as high as pre op so clearly that's not the best solution
>>64251634
You should if you want, because there is no scientific consensus on what race is, but it undermines the actual meaning and intent of affirmative action, which couldn't care less what race truly is.
>>64251331
stalin banned homosexuality
>>64251658
I'm saying you don't get to choose your gender just because you have a mental illness. Yes, gender dysphoria is a thing, we shouldn't help them keep their illusion so they can go kill themselves a few years down the road, we should get them genuine mental help
>>64251648
treating someone who has "gender dysphoria" with hormone replacement and surgery is like treating a manic depressive with a lobotomy.
>>64251690
Affirmative action is a joke. We already gave everyone equal rights under the law. If they want reparations how about the 750,000 white men that died in the civil war - the worst war in US history by far
>>64251686
There is a problem with using these kinds of statistics that people don't realize.
They don't project the mean. Most transgender people aren't gonna commit suicide before or after op. AFAIK, depression rates are lower post OP, which seems much more like how it would affect the mean transgender person.
I won't speak on this further, because I don't like talking about things that I am not a relative expert on.
>>64251379
>>64251405
>>64251430
i'm an anti-pc liberal. i think them banning him was wrong because at the end of the day it's art and they're censoring him by doing so.
but i think you're statement towards trans people was very disturbing. that's what i was reacting to.
>>64251648
>hormone replacement and surgery
That seems like the long way around, surely it'd be easier to just brainwash them into "identifying" as their biological gender
>inb4 XXY chromosomes, different issue
>>64251648
Read this >>64251724
Also look up the suicide rate post op, it's just as high, HRT and surgery don't work, it's really harmful to them
>>64251730
white men started that war
>>64251686
That is because society still shuns th even after they get the surgery. People like YOU are the cause for their suicides for not accepting them. It's people like YOU who are bullying them for not thinking the same way as you.
With such bright people in this thread, who needs colleges anyway
Well at least you guys will be able to see Action Bronson at the Juggalo Gathering 2016 along with the rest of your ilk, so don't feel too down
>>64251735
They do represent a large percentage of transgenders are you retarded? 41% of transgenders try to kill themselves
>>64251648
why not just use antipsychotics? also there's this huge push towards eliminating gender roles based on misguided 60s idealism, ie. liberal parents making their boys wear skirts, that's bound to create great psychological damage. This whole gender ideology has become religious dogma in first world countries, its a shame
>>64251748
>>64251724
>>64251770
pretty sure denying it makes it worse?
>>64251752
to free black people nigger.
>>64250607
>>>64250363
>>>64250367
>>>64250541
>It's literally because he's white. You can accuse me of being /pol/ all you want
Albanians arent white
>>64251784
denying what? No one in this thread is denying transgender people have a mental illness and no one is saying they don't deserve mental treatment
>>64251796
Gender queer liberals don't care as long as he's pale
>>64251770
>>64251748
I think that has more to do with discrimination against them for being transgender rather than them transitioning and regretting it.
>>64251737
wow it's almost like you're on 4chan and can't handle the bantz, nigger
Prove me wrong, that transgender people don't have a mental illness, that it isn't bad for the health of society to promote transgenderism
>>64251737
well, I just find 'trans' people really disturbing. you can have them bring me in for thought-crime.
>>64250257
he's jewish tho. I thought you guys hated jews?
>>64251796
>>64251820
All Europeans are white, you dumb mongoloid
>>64251829
like I've said before, there are plenty more marginalized groups in history that have had waaaayy smaller suicide rates.
Saying "waaahhh muh oppression" doesn't explain why it's 20 fucking times the rate of the general public, there's something else clearly going on and the surgery/TRT isn't fixing it
How do these safe space liberals college kids live in the real world??
>>64251868
albanians and jews are untermenschen. just look at Mr. Bronson's cranial morphology, a far cry from the noble teutonic skull
Someone should print and mail this thread to the school. Im sure they'd see the errors of their ways reading the brilliant counterarguments that read like a Breitbart comments section itt.
>>64251765
Don't put this on me cunt
If you kill yourself because someone doesn't approve of your lifestyle you're not being oppressed, you're mentally ill and need treatment
>>64251843
>>64251846
Can't win with you guys. We clearly disagree. I reacted to your comments now i'm being persecuted for my opinion and explaining it when that's basically the point of this article and what everyone is in a frenzy about.
Great work guys!
>>64251868
>all Europeans are white
95% are, but not albanians, bosniaks and turks.
Muslims can not be white
>>64251906
Fuck off you smug cunt no one is suggesting the problem is going to be solved on an anime imageboard
>>64251786
And who's fault is that ultimately?
You can't make a mistake, realize it's wrong, try to fix it, and then go about your business like nothing happened.
The mistake still happened, cause and effect takes course.
I hope you're not older than 21 you myopic little shit.
>>64251914
>having to justify your viewpoints is being persecuted
You're the useless idiots they talk about. Please, kill yourself
>>64251868
Aside for grerks.
They look like a mix of turks and arabs despite being christian.
The rest if europe-sure
>>64251870
It's because they're still being discriminated against.
You don't know what it's like to be in their shoes, I don't either.
But to assume people are KILLING themselves as some sort of SJW narrative is just way off base.
>>64251765
'bullying' can be useful for enforcing social standards. remove it and you get a generation of emotional cripples pretty much destined to fall prey to mental illness
>>64251730
I have no strong opinion either way on affirmative action. So that gets a shrug from me.
>>64251770
Many suicides aren't actually attempts to kill themselves. Many aren't intended to actually work. People set themselves up for "failed suicides" all the time.
Most suicides fail and most failed suicides regret their attempts even though many try again.
The point is suicide is a spur of the moment irrational decision and being suicidal isn't really a thing. If you think about killing yourself, you won't. Your just depressed and having macabre thoughts.
>>64251934
They did fix it by freeing them and giving them equal rights under the law, that is it. It is fixed
I am 22, and just about to graduate college, making 71k a year in the Midwest. Suck a dick
>>64251938
Where's your article saying being Transgender is a mental illness?
>>64251805
Denying them basic human rights ?
Denying them courtesy?
Denying them respect.
Denying their qualia.
...this list goes on.
>>64251954
*you're
And not saying people who think about killing themselves don't do it sometimes. But its not the thought of killing yourself which makes you do it.
Sometimes people say they are having suicidal thoughts because they want help because they really do want to live. Things like that.
>>64251293
Wow it's almost as if you speak exactly like a redditor and need to fuck off with your insufferable faggotry!
>>64251965
You sound insecure lol
I feel like the people who defend this degeneracy are more mentally ill than traps desu
>>64251914
you now know how it feels to be a conservative. if you are against liberal orthodoxy it's like that all the time
>>64251945
You don't try to justify why it's so much higher than blacks during slavery or Jim Crow, or Jews during the holocaust.
Do you really think transgendered people are more persecuted than the two groups I just mentioned? If so, how? This is why I believe they have a mental illness
>>64251953
No. I admit there are a lot of special snowflakes nowadays but when someone is to the point of living in fear for their life or being verbally harassed on a daily basis simply for being who they are that's not alright.
>>64251990
you sound like a loser liberal arts fag (lol)
>the left straw mans the right as Nazi racists
>the right straw mans the left as SJW cucks
really great stuff
>b-b-but the other side is the wrong one!
Yeah, yeah, they sure are.
I guess the people in the middle don't care enough to argue online
>>64251873
By getting you backwards hicks fired and taking your jobs
>>64251954
>>64251981
http://www.wsj.com/articles/paul-mchugh-transgender-surgery-isnt-the-solution-1402615120
"Most shockingly, their suicide mortality rose almost 20-fold above the comparable nontransgender population."
>>64251999
>>64251999
Don't expect a logical or coherent response past "you don't know what it's like!"
>>64252018
You sure got me a liberal art school fag living in San Francisco with my two dads who make good money but are okay with me being an artist
>>64251965
You say they "fixed it" and semantically that doesn't sit right with me.
I'd say it's more akin to putting a piece of tape on a leaking pipe, or a better methapor I can't think of because I'm tired.
I could really argue with you about this but I've been smoking too much hash oil and I'm sure your opinions are so set in stone that you'd rather die than try to ascertain how and why someone feels differently than you.
>71k a year in the Midwest
I feel like an adult wouldn't brag about his status or money he's making.
Or at least, a decent adult wouldn't.
why does anyone care that an anti intellectual fat ass is being barred from spreading his shit at a place of learning and earning of professional training when they don't want him there?
it's not even a controversial decision.
>>64252030
I have never read anything better on 4chan
You bringin real hip hop back anon
>>64252087
so you'll never amount to anything in life is basically what you're saying. Your contribution to the world is nothing more than your own mental masturbation over your art work which will most likely never affect another human being in any tangible way
>>64252003
I believe that's what you get when a society coddles people and tells them their only purpose in life is to 'be themselves'. A society that caters to every whim and delusion, you are a woman trapped in a man's body, a wolf trapped in a man's body, it's all kosher now. anyone who doesn't agree its a criminal bigot. meanwhile the world is fucking falling apart out there. back in the days these people would end up in a mental institution, today they get their own reality show on Bravo.
>>64251999
Because it isn't about race or religion.
I'd say they are this day in age.
I'm sure several black people committed suicide during slavery and i'm sure plenty of Jews did as well.
>>64252030
Literally only good post in this thread
>>64252101
He's a white man. That makes me feel insecure and threatened because Milo is telling me there's a war on white men
>>64252101
But anon, imagine if you was he
>>64252111
Alas it is true my degree is useless but I'm happily married with my Black bisexual wife and her son luscious living in our happy little gentrified home in the great city of San Francisco
>>64252100
lol get mad butthurt fag. What do you want? Reparations? White people have been paying reparations in the form of welfare for the past 50 years, and sadly, it's hurt the African American community
>>64252078
Thanks for the link, reading the study that it talked about now.
Link to the journal for anyone interested. Just from a small preliminary scan, it seems to say that the issues are mostly from their newfound social environment and that gender dysphoria is cured by operations.
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article/asset?id=10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0016885.PDF
>>64252117
What's wrong with trying to help a person be happy with themselves? To make the most out of this short life? Especially when we now have the tools to help make that happen for someone?
Come on man, you can't compare someone who feels they were born the opposite gender to someone who feels they were born the wrong species.
I don't think people who disagree are necessarily bigots, however I think there shouldn't be crossed and sadly a lot of people these days do cross it.
>>64252140
Don't you feel ashamed when you make such a ridiculous strawman?
Guys I just heard that he's in the hospital for a suicide attempt
>>64252287
Must be because of oppression
>>64252167
well then you certainly are a drain on society and a cuck. This level of shitposting is worthy of a reply
>>64252215
>>64252215
>lol get mad butt hurt fag
Wasn't mad until I read this, did you type that out with a smile on your face? How embarrassing of the human race.
Also you ask what I want as if its tangible or materialistic.
I know I'm just some anon who could die in the next 20 minutes for all you know but you know nothing about me.
All I want is for people to realize that at times what they're saying or feeling isn't constructive even if they think it is.
In your case, I'd point out your inherent racism, that buzzword won't get magically edify with you though so i won't bother.
And the thoughtform I just stated contradicts this website so I'll just shut up now.
Was kinda fun arguing, you could be more intellectual..
5.5/10
>>64252227
in the link "The high suicide rate certainly challenges the surgery prescription."
Also in the study the suicide rate post-op remains the same 20x that of the normal population so I'm not sure how you drew the conclusion that surgery is the answer
>>64251916
>Muslims can not be white
Just how ignorant are cacs jesus christ
>>64250411
He has no views on anything, just like any populist. He says what will get him attention and votes.
His position on abortment is a perfect example, he keeps changing his discourse on it depending on the audience of the day. He'll probably do the same on social justice.
>>64252368
Well thank you fine gentle sir
>>64252227
sorry didn't mean >>64252389
for you, meant it for >>64252219
as for your response I would say we shouldn't "help them be happy" if it doesn't help lower their suicide rate, it doesn't seem like happy people would try to kill themselves so much.
I think we both want the same thing, which is for them to be normal, but we have different ideas on how to do that
I don't know why I came into this thread. I just see a bunch of dumbasses getting triggered by each other. Smh
>>64252379
>that buzzword won't get magically edify with you
>that buzzword won't magically edify you
Good night y'all, have fun arguing about shit that won't matter once were all fucking dead and the androgynous mixed race take control.
>>64252379
nice ad hom fag, at least say something as to the effect of what the fuck you think white people should "owe" black people, and how it hasn't already been repaid
>>64251916
>turks
>europeans
the closest theyll get from being european is squatting in Germany
>>64252440
>>64252389
No problem. I read it and it seems to paint a picture that is what you said.
But I don't want to just go off of this. As anyone can find studies to push their view, and the conclusion certainly isn't "surgeries don't help" because it did say it cured gender dysphoria.
I will be looking into this more and seeing if there are responses and reviews to this. Probably won't get back to you because it might take a while, but its always cool to dive down rabbit holes.
>>64252498
it really doesn't matter to me what your position is as long as you have a legitimate reason to back it up other than feelings I'll respect it as long as you can back it up
It just really pisses me off when people don't use facts when trying to sway others to their opinion. Have fun reading, these studies are usually boring as fuck
>>64252468
>>64252468
Do you know what ad homimem is?
I didn't base my arguement off of emotion you dip.
You didn't even try to invalidate any of my points, you're pathetic.
Also to be honest your way of thought concerning this topic is quite low level and I'm not sure I can acknowledge it seriously anymore.
>say what I want to hear how I want it to be said
>nah
>lolgetmadbutthurtfag I'm right
???
>>64250567
The Brits have their lefts and rights all backwards. That's why they drive on the wrong side of the road.
>>64252591
you said I wasn't intellectual, called me racist, and an embarrassment to the human race and then completely ignored the argument I presented and the question I posed.
I don't give a fuck if you call me a faggot a neckbeard a closeted homosexual, whatever. I can handle the bantz, just answer with a real fucking answer not an attack on character and dodging the question, that's not how a debate works
>>64252440
i read the article and it didn't elaborate on why they're committing suicide. truly i don't know. it could be due to surgery but it could be due to discrimination or other reasons.
we do both want the same thing. i'm glad.
i'm not trying to come off as a dick. i just think people should be able to live their own lives how they please.
life is too short to be so sinister, i just want people to be happy if it's possible.
>>64252656
if the operations are paying paid by Obamacare i.e. some of it is being funded by my money, and they're still having no effect, then I think as part of my freedoms I should not have to pay taxes that partly go to support that
I also think there are better solutions such as the ones John Hopkins has proposed. They at first supported gender reassignment surgery but have now switched their views because it didn't truly help them
Honestly I just think getting them to be comfortable in their own bodies is the best solution similar to anorexic people, but no one wants to hear my opinion because the regressive left shuts it down by calling me a transphobe
>>64252656
anyway cheerio m8
>>64252628
>>64252628
And you tried to diminish the point I made while bringing another topic into the play, keep calling me fag, told me to suck a dick, and denied my opinion just because what I'm saying doesn't adhere to your personal qualia.
Begging the question isn't a debate either the question you want an answer to isn't some I really feel like sitting here and spelling out for you.
Besides, you asked what I want and I told you.
But it doesn't fit into your narrative so it doesn't make sense to you and I'm "dodging the question".
You may be studious and verbose but your emotional intelligence is clearly lacking.
>>64252770
what other topic? You wanted to debate whether or not black people were owed anything in this country and I said no. It started with affirmative action which you said was justified.
I have gone thru and on multiple occasions you haven't provided an argument, just saying you don't agree or something doesn't sit well with you whereas I brought up the civil war, equal rights under the law, and welfare, and you still have yet to come up with an actual rebuttal.
What the fuck are black people owed by whites in the United States today, and why? You still haven't fucking answered this in any of your replies. If you have, please link to them
>>64251149
That is honestly pretty awful. How long ago was this?
>>64252852
Not him, but let's start by assuming these people deserve respect and acknowledgment, and perhaps a level of discourse that goes beyond "lol fucking black people and their welfare can't believe I'm paying for that shit"
>>64251181
>the man literally doesn't even work blue
>>64252887
what are they owed more than equal rights and respect though? Why is affirmative action a good thing, and furthermore why is welfare a good thing when it has increased the amount of single mothers in the black (and white) community which in turn has hurt the black community more than anything in the past 5 decades
>>64251012
He's albanian. Islam in the balkans, is like chrinsitaity in the west, a culutral part of your indentity which a lot of people don't take all to that seriously.
He's father was hardcire vbut his mother was secular. He eats pork and drinks booze, probbaly doesn't pray. He's probably just a lapsed Muslim.
>>64251769
GOT EM
they also are probably voting for drumpf like the rethuglicans they are. gross.
>>64252937
Trump 2016
>>64252933
As for affirmative action, I don't really think it's that great of a system, but in theory I don't see anything wrong with trying to keep Jamal's job app from just getting thrown into the trash bin.
>>64252852
>>64252852
Wait. That's what you're arguing ?
Holy shit.
It wasn't even me who said
>white people started that war
But you replied saying
>to free blacks, nigger
So my first point I made here >>64252100 was what I was referring to when I said you brought another topic into play.
Now I realize why I thought your points were a bit irrelevant.
>What the fuck are black people owed by whites in the United States today, and why?
Well that isn't for me to decide obviously. But if it really came down to it if have to say nothing.
That was then and this is now.
However the point I made here >>64252379 is important because, if you'd just take a second to really acknowledge the racist/xenophobic tendencies you've subconsciously learned are detrimental..
And if every white people could consciously edify themselves..
Then I'd say that's what black people are owe by whites.
But you'd say you aren't "inherently racist" or maybe you're half Argentinian, I don't know.
Sorry I know this isn't worded well I'm fucking tired.
>>64252592
Im Australian, but the driving thing still applies
>>64252887
Thank you.
>>64252918
They're owed the right to privacy, god damn stay in your lane dude none of these things seem to directly affect you yet you speak about it as if it does.
That's your problem.
>>64253042
I think everyone deserves equal rights under the law but everyone has prejudices.
Also just because I say nigger on 4chan just not make me racist or "xenophobic" whatever the fuck that means. If you could point out any of my other "racist" tendencies I would appreciate it just to see where you think I screwed up
>>64250607
I'm not even white and I agree with you
>>64253075
you're arguing the wrong thread again I think how am I against giving black people privacy?
Taking my tax money directly affects me. Also I live near Detroit so welfare causing single mothers which causes a rise in crime which destroyed the city has affected me in that sense as well. The place sucks ass now
>>64253100
I'm just assuming something of you because of your skin color can't show you and examples buddy
I'm sure you know how that works, right ?
>>64253100
If you don't know what "xenophobic" means then look it up. This is the Internet age, ignorance isn't cute.
>>64253144
this post isn't coherent can you clarify?
>>64253146
I was being sarcastic I don't think it's a legitimate word just like how the left has changed the meaning of the word racist to mean someone who doesn't toe the SJW line
>>64253137
>>64253137
You're not the only person paying taxes.
You're not forced to live in your current location.
You make 71k, you can easily find somewhere better to live.
Also, I could counter argue gentrification and capitalism destroyed your town but whatever.
>it's ALL the blacks fault
>But I'm not racist
>>64253203
I have never said it was the blacks fault I directly said it was welfare's fault which was invented by whites like you who think that reparations is the best way to help black people
Also please tell me how gentrification and capitalism destroyed Detroit and not the race riots and violent crime, I would love to hear it as my parents grew up there during the race riots
>>64253165
Proper grammar aside, if you can't cohere that you're fucked in the head, dyslexic or drunk.
>>64253236
ok let's resort back to the ad hominem, nice. You're an asshole and the reason why this country is going down the shitter. Make America Great Again!
>>64253233
>which was invented by whites like you who think that reparations is the best way to help black people
When did I ever say this? I'm not white ? I think I was clear in this post.
>>64253042
Also, what do you think was the driving cause behind those two factors you mentioned.
Cause and effect.
This sounds fucking stupid but I can't word it better so.
It's as if you see the stigma but not the actual source of the problem, you're focused on the marionette when you should be focused on the puppeteer.
>>64253290
The reason why violent crime rose in Detroit was because lack of fathers
Black two parent families have a poverty rate of only 8%, but female with no spouse is between 35-46%. Welfare encouraged black men to not be fathers which in turn caused more crime and destroyed Detroit
http://blackdemographics.com/households/poverty/
>>64253342
>as if you see the stigma but not the actual source of the problem, you're focused on the marionette when you should be focused on the puppeteer.
>>64253378
gentrification is the opposite of what happened in Detroit, property values went down after the Great Migration and race riots, there were more homes for poor black people to live in, not less
Capitalism wouldn't have welfare either, that's a socialist benefit.
At least explain your gentrification and capitalism comment and how it ruined the city of Detroit
>>64253407
I'm not saying that it happened there and I'm not spoonfeeding you look up some articles and form your own opinion.
damn that's a cold ass honkey
>>64253438
then you're not even providing an argument with facts, you're just stating your opinion that you can't even prove
Just because you say something is true doesn't make it true, you have to provide a source.
You lost, admit it
>>64253100
>think everyone deserves equal rights under the law but everyone has prejudices.
>>64253407
Just going over what you said here again and it's funny.
It seems like you accept the fact that prejudice exists or maybe that's the wrong word.
You're apathetic towards it would fit better.
Do you not see that this is where your problem lies my child ?
TLDR thread
Idk if anyone has mentioned this or not, but Action basically has a show slotted before and after Gaycation, on VICE. Now I'm not saying that exonerates him from any and all charges of homophobia, but I do know that VICE is a very politically driven network and would be rather conscious enough not to promote someone who was explicitly homophobic.
Tbh Action is prob one of the nicest dudes out there.
Colleges are ducking crazy man. They're these little islands of hypersensitive leftists who essentially are growing out of childhood. So you have this mix of kiddie like hysterics coupled with a burgeoning sense of political identity.
But really, that's one of a million fucking things wrong with universities in America.
In another universe I'm the head of a College and bring Anal Cunt to play. In that universe Seth is still alive too.
>>64253203
>>64253438
"Also, I could counter argue gentrification and capitalism destroyed your town but whatever."
Not even him but I've been following the thread and what the fuck
>>64253521
Yes, A.C. Lol
>>64253517
I don't care about fixing a problem that doesn't hurt anyone. If you have equal rights under the law then who gives a fuck if some redneck hates you, plenty of blacks hate whites. It's really a non-issue if it isn't affecting you in any way, and if you meet someone who says nasty things to you you are free to walk away
If they aren't employing you because of your race then you can sue, that's what equal rights under the law means
>>64253496
>>64253496
Never said it was "true" so by your logic we're still at a stalemate or something.
I never said those things destroyed Detroit, you put those words in my mouth.
And then tried to blame it all on missing black fathers like I didnt know that was an issue.
>>64250257
libcucks strike again
funny how only up until 20=30 years ago it was the right that was trying to prevent "controversial" art from spreading, and now it's been flipped on its ass and is currently the left trying to keep artists down.
>>64253569
see >>64253524
and >>64253203
where you said they did, and I can show that it's all due to missing black fathers if you want, here check out these statistics:
https://thefatherlessgeneration.wordpress.com/statistics/
>>64253555
Nice trips, and I'm not even gonna argue with ya but that logic scares me bruh.
To think I live in a world where the majority of white people feel this way and don't see a problem with it.
I can't ascertain such apathy.
>>64250257
Fuck all these nigger faggot kike sjws
>>64253637
all people feel this way towards other groups of people, whether you treat them any different determines whether or not you're a good or bad person
You're a fool if you think only white people think this way or that you aren't prejudiced against white people by thinking that they're all racist
>>64253663
Asians are commonly known as the most racist of any race.
When do you predict that SJW's implode on themselves?
>>64253614
See but I didn't imply it had any direct influence I just tossed some buzzwords and you took the bait like it had your name embroidered on it.
Detroit isn't an island by the way.
Something happening somewhere else can affect things in other places.
>>64253694
this is the year. it's all coming to a head with the election
>>64253663
You're right, but what I meant to say was that I'm scared to live in America, surrounded by whites with power who feel this way.
>>64253718
And if someone other than trump wins what will happen?
If he was black he wouldn't be being prosecuted right now
>>64253770
agreed
>>64251976
They have all the same rights as everyone else in the western world.
Assholes will be assholes to everyone, not just them.
Respect has to be earned, i don't automatically respect someone because they managed to crawl out of a cunt and breathe for a couple of years.
I don't know what the fuck that means but kill yourself.
>>64253770
persecuted? is that the word you're looking for?
if he was black he probably would be prosecuted now, or sometime soon.
>>64253637
You know what scares me? That there's people like you out there who unironically want to police thought. That's much more disgusting than pouring water on someone.
>>64254116
What ?
When it comes to morality and ethics doesn't everyone want to "police thought" to a certain degree?
Besides I'm not sure you're aware of the issue at hand pouring water on someone is irrelevant.
w2c that hat tho
>>64250257
thats because he's a literal degenerate
even his father calls him twisted
this thread kills the man
>>64250607
>It's literally because he's white.
I guess that's why Tyler is banned from two countries, that white privilege of his
>>64252878
fuck you its hilarious
First they came for the whites, and I did not speak because I was not a white...
>>64254696
[spoiler]nigger[/spoiler]
>>64254684
Then they came for the gamers, and I did not speak because I was not a gamer...
>>64251275
harassment for help!
