Is all of the praise for this album just a forced meme? I really don't see the appeal of this album at all, nor how it was influential.
It's extremely early conscious rap.
Something that /mu/'s hiphop fans love because it make hiphop look somewhat legitimate(but it's not)
The only reason you don't see how influential it was is because you probably haven't listened to what Hip-Hop was like before it.
>>64200114
I was going to avoid mentioning that, but yeah. It seems like the early 2000s' Hopsin.
Why does /mu/ always shit on actually good albums
>>64200150
>having a different opinion than the /mu/ hivemind
it's alright to be a pleb. not everyone can be P A T R I C I A N
This album is 10/10 my dude
>crush your corporations with a mild touch
>trash ya whole computer system and revert you to papyrus
>>64200086
You must not listen to much hip hop
>>64200246
>you must not eat much shit bro, down here in the portajohn we're shit oficionados
Hip hop has had fewer important moments in the last 20 years than jazz or even fucking pop.
>>64200276
Just proved my point
>>64200284
yeah bro feel free to link TPAB and a tribe album of your choice to prove me wrong
>>64200298
Is this what you do for fun?
>>64200317
Not even that guy but, this is 4chan no one does this for fun.
>>64200114
what oh earth? Conscious rap has been around since Public Enemy, Deltron 3030 was released in like 2001
>>64200276
Jazz hasn't had any important moments in 20 years
>>64200086
Worst Kid Koala project.
>>64200357
>Vijay Iyer
>Kamasi Washington
>Steven Bernstein
>jazz generally bleeds into hip hop (you're welcome)
>>64200114
> music
> ever being legitimate
Back to plebbit with you
>>64200357
>public enemy
If this is conscious rap then so was NWA
All I hear is subtle jabs at political power and potential anti-Semitism.
>>64200276
>having to act like you know something about a genre you've listened to twice
you feel big dont you? what huge innovations have their been in rock?
inb4
>pfft rock? i only listen to experimental shit that 4chan tells me is good
>>64200471
keep dodging the question limpdick, you're so fucking ass-shattered that someone doesn't agree that hiphop is all that special
>>64200506
This is getting really cringey
>>64200524
nice h3h3productions tier response
neither you or anyone ITT has laid out any opinion as to how Deltron 3030 was influential or important, or why it belongs on anyone's top albums chart
>>64200506
you're entitled to your opinion even if it's wrong, friend. i'm just saying that if you actually listen to how drastically hip-hop has changed in the past 20 years you'd change your tune. compare Paid in Full to I Don't Like Shit, I Don't Go Outside and you'll probably realise. even if you don't like the music you have to at least realise that it's made progress.
>>64200564
lmfao this guy thinks it's all the same guy responding to him each time
>>64200621
>earl "momma im off that xanax n im sad and shit" sweatshirt
yeah man the genre is really headed for new highs
>>64200661
>keep dodging the question limpdick, you're so fucking ass-shattered that someone doesn't agree with you
you're just furthering my argument that you've listened to very little of the genre and can't make an educated argument. it's alright though buddy you can wallow in ignorance ;)
ENVELOP YOU WITH DEVELOPMENT KITS THAT HELP ME TO EMBELLISH THE ELEMENTS DYNAMIC AND TOO INTELLIGENT
>>64200733
>JJBA tier "a-actually, you just activated my trap card!" defense
i've run the gambit and don't see how hiphop has really elevated itself to the point of deserving all of the attention and romanticizing it gets. the flashiness of the lifestyle coupled with white people's insatiable appetite for any bullshit african americans come up with is the reason it's so popular.
I like it because of his flow and lyrical cleverness. I also like the futuristic narrative that he paints throughout the album. It has its weak tracks but overall I think its pretty solid.
>>64200827
>NIGGA WE IN THE FUTURE CORPORATION FIRST BANK
>IM ON A COMPUTAH
>3030 3030 3030 3030
That's not a 'narrative', those are thematic elements and paper thin ones at that.
>>64200086
it's a fucking masterpiece asshole. did you hate gorillaz first album too?
>>64200366
I wouldn't consider it a KK project.
>>64200805
>JJBA tier "a-actually, you just activated my trap card!" defense
lol not my fault you're shit at arguing and i'm using it to my advantage
what makes the shit that you listen to deserving of attention? i'm not saying that hip-hop is miles ahead of everything, i'm saying that everything else is exactly as average as hip-hop is. also what serious rapper that isn't pop-rap flashes around his lifestyle?
>>64200805
>flashiness of the lifestyle
anyone you can name that does this that isn't pop-rap or trap?
>white people's insatiable appetite for any bullshit african americans come up with is the reason it's so popular.
you callin me a nigger lover boi?
>>64200429
>boring spiritual crap
>shitty jew jazz
>"jazz" hip-hop records are shit and forgotten quickly
I will give you Iyer, though his "moment" is more concerned with virtuosity rather than innovation or change
>>64200457
ok maybe not Public Enemy, but definitely ATCQ or Black Star
>>64201024
your only rebuttals are "i'm a fucking pleb" and some simple racism
epic, simply epic
>>64200150
Because 4chan is full of contrarians trying to prop up their ego by showing their taste is better than perfectly good culture.
Side note: Virus is the best track: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FrEdbKwivCI
>>64201076
this is embarassing proto-nerdcore
>>64201045
lmao Zorn and co are objectively hacks, the Epic along with that Glasper crap is most boring sounds put to record, and only normies who don't actually appreciate jazz care about. Talk about being a fucking pleb
>>64201102
>proto-nerdcore
This is an embarrassing comparison.
>>64201106
>someone on tumblr made a post saying that people who like The Epic don't really like jazz and it got a lot of notes, so that's my opinion now too because I want to be cool!
>>64201123
I'm not the guy you're in an argument with, but
>other people share this sentiment so it makes you a sheep grrrrr!
10/10 argument here boys, life changing shit right here
>>64201076
/mu/
1 part annoying contrarians
1 part people trolling
1 part 14-year-old faggots
1 part people that actually want to discuss music
Stir until shit
Turbulence is best lyrics in hip hop. Constructus Corporation is better sc-fi overrall tho
>>64201123
>To Cuck a Butterfly got me into jazz and babby's first spiritual jazz can't be bad because he played on it!
and why don't you reply with more projecting and conjecture, dig you hole even deeper
>>64200852
bro check out the lyrics to Battle Song
>>64200564
why do albums have to be influential to be in someone's top albums chart
I heard the album
I was there, for the rap battle
It was
Interspectacular
Fantabulous
It blew my socks off!
It's one of those things
Where machine versus man
Man versus woman
Woman versus your mother
I was there
It was an intergalactic rap battle
It was... instupicuous
It was influential in terms of production, mostly. It is one of the best albums in a period when rap was opening up to new directions that were not the classic 90's sound.
Del is a great rapper but I don't think he is exceptionally influential. Listen to Both Sides of The Brain by the way, Del's performence on it is better.
>>64200086
it was very fresh
told a sweet story
>>64200231
Shit, didn't realize toby was a deltron fan.
>>64201076
mate its 3030 for sure thats the best track
im not mad but im irked off a little bit
>>64200086
Both Sides of The Brain, is where it's at. My favorite Del.
>>64200086
Nothing before it sounded like it. Very few albums have matched it since.
