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previous thread
>>64065061
Going for a John Frusciante vibe these days, anyone else here a fan? If so what's your favourite guitar work of his?
Should a nut always be filed so the string doesn't not creep above?
When I changed gauges for the three low strings I found them to fall a bit above.
>>64101021
It varies, as long as there is enough clearance between the first fret and the string then it should be fine, that's the main thing.
>>64101010
>purposely damaged geetars
>ever
So, yeah, single coil neck pickup you would choose for a jazz player on a warm but not distorted valve amp.
>>64101010
Wayne was pretty fucking incredible. First heard it during an LSD trip, and it was a amazing experience... so that would probably be my favourite.
>>64101101
Jazzymasty has a good neck pickup for unharshed mellow jazz.
>>64101119
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fU7XjdOyrZM
>>64101101
join the club
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgYsugjmITc
>>64095309
>customs
>doing guitar set ups
>>64101221
He's just your average Gibson customer.
>>64101388
How retarded do you to be to think that customs would do adjustments to your guitar?
>>64101221
Speaking of that thread, how lost is
>>64095337
Les Pauls are rubbish
>>64101510
My dad will kick your ass
>>64100914
Daily reminder that tonewoods-
*gets shot in the head*
>>64101546
I will brutalise him with the truth
Post Teles
>>64101694
>3 saddle bridge
Nice meme.
>>64101694
Have you changed the pickguard ?
>>64101694
>that bridge
Enjoy your shit intonation and string height.
>>64101708
Do you know what a meme is?
>>64101744
BUT MUH TOAN
>Muh 7.5" radii
Whats everyone's preferred fretboard radius?
I don't see many people using the vintage 7.5".
>>64101763
Literally no one uses 7.5 unless it's a custom built neck.
>>64101744
>string height
u wot m8
>>64101763
7.5" as well
comfy as hell
>>64101780
I believe you are mistaken
>>64101744
> doesn't know how to set up saddles properly
>>64101792
No, I believe you're mistake because the vintage radius is 7.25.
>>64101742
Nope, everything is stock, except the strings.
>>64101795
A 3 straight saddle bridge is literally impossible to intonate correctly though. This is a fact.
>>64101812
oh oops, yeah mine is 7.25"
guess its similar enough to go by my head
>>64101840
> doesn't know about tilt compensation
>>64101840
It's just retarded and was done to cut down production costs, it was barely "good enough" and it increased profit margins, so it was done. Why people would actively want this is beyond me.
>>64101912
>having to adjusting the action/radius to intonate
Just get a non-shit bridge.
>>64101930
Because "muh vintage tone".
>>64101587
Yeauhh mang
>>64101937
I enjoy it. You plebs are the ones that are letting it bother you, desu
>>64101930
It's vintage anon!
>>64101985
That one is beautiful
>>64101010
Big Frusciante fan. Love all his solo stuff, yes even the latest albums. Really don't like the chillis though.
>>64101587
If you insist.
>>64101958
Has nothing to do with tone though.
>>64101995
>I enjoy it
I enjoy shooting flintlock pistols, but using one for daily carry is obviously retarded. If that is your main guitar and not just a collectors piece then it's retarded.
>>64101999
So is asbestos, and we're not using stuff like that- oh wait, nitro finish. Nevermind, guitarists ARE that retarded.
>>64102138
>Has nothing to do with tone though.
Maybe not, but it's what vintage purists tell themselves.
>>64102138
You need to tug one out anon, you're getting all worked up
>>64102138
Tons of professional tele players that are more accomplished than you prefer the 3 saddle bridge. I find that the people that obsess over small imperfections like this are usually the shittiest players.
>>64102138
does the intonation really make that HUGE of a difference that you think a three saddle tele is unplayable?
what does that say about all the tele players back in the 50s/60s?
genuine question I don't know the answer
>>64102138
>getting upset about other peoples choice of gear
>repeatedly whining about somebodies intonation being a few cents out
Do you need a hug anon?
Dear Wayne, we apologise retrospectively
>>64102211
Imagine how many more millions of records The Stones would have sold of only Keiths intonation were slightly tweaked.
>>64102214
>he can't hear when people are a few cents off
>>64102138
>this is what metalheads actually believe
why do you even care? Not like you can tell if you guitar is out of tune over all that distortion
>>64102153
I suppose.
>>64102159
How exactly am I getting worked up?
>>64102206
>hurr durr you're shit
That's still not an argument for an objectively inferior design. I can shoot a flintlock more accurately than some people can a modern pistol, does that make the flintlock a better design?
>>64102211
>unplayable?
I never said that, I just said it's stupid, which it is. Why settle for something inferior when you can, you know, have something better. Especially on a premium/professional instrument. Why settle for something like this?
>>64102214
^
Someone call John Scofield and tell him he's been playing the guitar all wrong.
>>64102343
>but using one for daily carry is obviously retarded. If that is your main guitar and not just a collectors piece then it's retarded.
you sure make it sound like you think it makes it unplayable
>>64102361
I would but he blocked my number after I kept repeatedly telling him he's get a more accurate tuning from a strobe tuner and not a clip on.
Why would he settle for a clip on when he could have something better?
What a faggot.
six-saddles are fucking ugly on teles
I don't care about muh tone but I'd opt for the 3-saddle because it looks way better. Besides, you can go for tilt compensated saddles or just literally bend the saddle by hand.
>>64102331
I don't play metal, but since you never had a proper rebuttal I suppose that's all you have left.
>>64102395
A flintlock is not unusable, it's just inferior in every way imaginable to a modern pistol. Just like that bridge. Maybe not by the same margin, but the comparison still holds up.
>>64102343
You're pretty proud of that flintlock analogy eh
>>64102492
>You're pretty proud of that flintlock analogy eh
I haven't heard a single response yet why it doesn't work (or any other rebuttal that isn't based on looks or a silly ad-hominem attack), so I'll continue using it.
>>64102441
3-saddles are ugly as fuck though. Looks like something found at the scrapyard, built by a hobo.
>>64102377
She's a beauty. Did you do any mods on it or is everything stock?
>>64102474
think of it this way, i'll use your analogy since that's all you have anyways
We aren't shooting at flies with our guns, we're shooting at big, round targets. The flintlocks are perfectly fine and have the advantage of looking better at the same time.
Realistically, this wouldn't be very good for concealed carry. Plus the tone woods are probably all out of wack due to age
>>64102548
(You)
@64102580
Thanks.
>>64102552
It's a squier, so hopefully nothing is stock
>>64102547
> First response was literally about tilt compensated saddles
>>64102377
Every time I see that gorgeous airline I hate you a little bit more.
Decide on whether you're going to put a trem on it or not yet?
>>64102554
>We aren't shooting at flies with our guns, we're shooting at big, round targets. The flintlocks are perfectly fine and have the advantage of looking better at the same time.
>perfectly fine
Except that they're less ergonomic and a hassle to load, just like 3-piece bridge is harder to intonate and more fiddly. Gee, look, you're still trading looks (on a fucking bridge that nobody pays attention to anyways) for something that is objectively inferior.
>>64102588
>@
>64102547
>implying your pistols ever see use
fucking burgers
>>64102552
>>64102593
Other than string changes, it's all stock. I can't think of anything I'd want to change on it honestly.
>>64102612
I have not decided yet. I've been trying to figure out if it'd be worth it since I don't play a lot that requires a trem
@64102640
Thanks for another free (You).
>>64102629
Does your hand get pretty sore, anon?
>>64102593
>all squiers are shit
nice meme
>>64102629
>more fiddly
literally what? Elaborate, because it seems like you're just pulling at straws.
Your only argument is that it's harder to intonate, which is true but fixable. Flintlocks vs. modern pistols is hardly comparable.
And yes, most guitar owners like to pay attention to the look of their bridge.
>>64102645
Well if you do just make sure it's the most technologically advanced trem on the market or this faggot above will make a fuss about it.
>>64101780
Really? what's the reasoning?
>>64101792
Not many think so but I definitely agree, after owning the mustang first I had to make sure my strat had more or less the same neck, and it happened to be identical.
>>64101763
12" is super neat
>>64102554
And what arguments do you have other than "aesthetics" and "it just werks"? 3 saddles are objectivity worse.
>>64102704
he explained later
its not 7.5" that gets used, its 7.25", small difference but still
your guitar is likely 7.25" too
I think those neck specs are common on MIJ Fenders (184R radius and shorter scales). Guess nips have smaller fingers so they like it.
I have huge hands yet prefer it anyways.
>>64102733
Except you're basing your entire argument (let's call it that for brevity's sake) on subjective qualities.
>>64102671
I don't even care to correct you. If you don't want to invest more than 200$ in a guitar you wouldn't understand
>>64102604
>entire articles about swapping out saddles and milling them down because suddenly one string is too high.
>using a band-aid fix for a problem that doesn't even exist if you just use a non-retarded bridge design
>>64102694
Fixable by tilt compensated saddles, see ^. You're still creating a problem that doesn't even need to exist, it is still inferior design, period.
>Flintlocks vs. modern pistols is hardly comparable
Why exactly? I already said that it's an exaggeration, but at its core it is the same thing.
>looks
Fine, but then you ARE trading looks for an inferior design, which is stupid. That's all I was saying from the very beginning anyway.
>>64102770
How is better and easier intonation subjective?
>>64102798
when the "inferior design" is just an incredible miniscule difference in intonation, I'd say it's a fair trade off.
>>64102798
No, what you said was that 3 saddle bridge are "impossible to intonate correctly". Tilt compensated saddles or meticulous attention to detail make them possible to intonate.
>>64102788
have you ever touched a CV or a VM?
>>64102846
>A 3 straight saddle bridge
>straight
>STRAIGHT
Learn how to read without skipping words.
>>64101780
>>64101792
>>64101812
>>64101849
Hurr durr I meant 7.25" in my original post >>64101763
yea i don't think anyone but guitar players give a shit what their bridge looks like
literally no one else gives a shit
>>64102845
In your eyes it's worth it, in my eyes it's stupid. Then we're clear, you choose an objectively worse design for looks, and I think that's stupid. That's literally it.
>>64102846
>what you said
I didn't say that, >>64101840 is not me, I just said: >>64101930 .
Also, >>64102867
>>64102817
Because you think it's hard to intonate a 3 saddle bridge. I don't, because I'm not fucking retarded, and I took ten minutes out of my life to leaem how to do it.
You subjectively think that achieving correct intonation is drastically harder on a 3 saddle bridge, because you are objectively an idiot. I subjectively think that any inconvenience is minor, and easily remedied.
>>64102848
Yeah and the quality doesn't compare. Squier feels like something by fischer price after playing with something better
Another quality thread. Well played lads.
>>64102905
I think the guitar players opinion of their bridge is the only one that matters, anon
>>64102929
as the guy who has the Tele and the Airline above, I can agree with this. However, I found my Airline brand new for $400, not $1000. I've personally been looking at more Squiers because of the price and the middle-of-the-road quality
>>64102943
At least people are talking about guitar related stuff.
>>64102929
the Classic Vibe series are excellent, I bought my CV strat over the dozen or so MiM Fenders I tried.
>>64102912
>I subjectively think that any inconvenience is minor, and easily remedied.
So you admit that it is an inconvenience yet you don't think it's a con (regardless of how minor it is). I don't follow this logic but I'll let it slip.
And it's not that's it's difficult to intonate, but that it's more difficult (not necessarily drastically) than a 6 saddle design. It's relative.
There is simply no benefit to using a 3 saddle. If there is please tell me or reiterate if you already have.
Why do people on here say Rics are shit? (I've never played one)
Why does no one talk about/own Danelectro?
Does no one in these threads own a hollowbody guitar?
>>64103100
Dude, we've gone through all of it twice already. I assume you're the guy from the very start that argues the same thing right now, I don't think there's a point anymore, it's literally settled. It is objectively worse, they said that several times themselves. They just choose it out of preference in terms of looks. That's it, it's worse but they don't care, that's the end of it.
>>64103116
my dad has a rick. i've played it a few times and it's just a very flimsy guitar. when i play it i feel like i'm going to break the goddamn thing. they sound alright i guess
>>64103116
>Does no one in these threads own a hollowbody guitar?
I do that jazz thing sometimes
>>64103152
>says "you are objectively an idiot" and puts words in my mouth
>surprised when I defend myself
>>64103203
That's a gorgeous guitar.
>>64103272
I'd like to put a lot more than words in your filthy mouth.
>>64103116
Danelectros don't have a lower quality sub brand like epiphone or squeir do they? I've only played on one once and can't remember much about it besides how much I liked the body shape
>>64103342
not to my knowledge
>>64103342
they are already pretty low quality to begin with
>>64103418
the tone is in your fingers
>>64103116
>Does no one in these threads own a hollowbody guitar?
I don't wanna be like Tom
>>64103540
>Fucking up a perfectly good, probably old and possibly vintage guitar because "muh punk rock"
Shit like this makes my skin crawl, especially when they still look like mongoloids while using them.
>>64103594
I think he gets Gibson to make those guitars as his signature model.
Doesn't excuse it, but at least it's not a vintage guitar
>>64103638
Either way, I still find it so tacky to fuck up a guitar with stickers or tape or shit like that.
btw Big Brass Saddles sound different to small ones made of different metals. That's really the biggest reason to use them.
>>64103116
They played the guitars thats why. The 4003s are the only good thing they put out.
For /mu/ should I get this or an acoustic guitar. Already have a 4string and want to expand my sound but also learn something else. Pls bully.
What do you guys think of Bohos? Anyone own one?
www.bohemianguitars.com
>>64104357
Forgot pic.
How do I decipher Ibanez model names?
>>64104423
it's really simple though
>>64104406
What kind of sound do you want?
If you have money to spend, invest on a StingRay5.
The action is still a little high on the upper end of the neck, which also throws the intonation off slightly. But I'm not gonna mess with it for a while.
However this thing sounds huge. Leave it to the Nips to make a killer bass. Sounds really nice, since I only payed 3 bens for it I could profit too if I decided to sell it.
Are Ibanez standard guitars worth it or are they cheap crap?
Should I get a Fender Strat or an Epiphone Les Paul? I don't really have any set preferences for what kind of music I like to play and these seem to be the most versatile.
>>64105247
go to a store and find out
>>64105235
Decent
>>64105247
Strat for gigs, Les for recording
Got this teisco, someone painted it with house paint
Well I know nothing about refinishing guitars and I scratched most of it off. Anyone know how to get the scratches out?
I kinda wanted to do an oil rub but idk if the burst is paint or stain
>>64105355
Forgot pic
>>64104787
No Im tired of music mans. I learned bass on one and after playing that for 3 years straight I wanted something new. I would get my current bass in a 5 string if I could but they discontinued them.
>>64105447
sand with 1000 grit as little as possible then buff with auto compound.
>>64105641
definitely get an acoustic guitar. They're really great for writing songs due to the high resonance. Those overtones really jump out at you. Kinda feels like it's writing the song for you. For a bassist it comes in handy more than an electric.
Also, don't spend too much. Every acoustic is going to have bridge lift over time and need to get a neck reset eventually. Not worth the trouble of getting a high end acoustic as opposed to a junker if it's not gonna last any longer. However guitars with a trapeze don't have this problem.
>>64105853
Why don't guitar companies design an acoustic guitar that's more modular and adjustable like an electric?
>>64105879
what do you need to adjust?
>>64103116
Danelectro branded silvertone hollowbodies are some of my favorite. Their wooden bridge, lipstick pups, Masonite hollowbodies all add up to a really unique sounding instrument.
>>64105879
They're called Archtops.
>>64105879
There are some bolt on acoustics, but they're a lot more complex than than electrics. Basically the problem is more difficult and guitar innovation moves at a snail's pace. However, archtop guitars tailpieces aren't attached normally. So those you can think of as modular to the same degree as a gibshit.
>>64105853
Alright then acoustic it is. I dont want to spend more than $200-250 Ive seen decent ones in at Cucktar center in that range. Thanks man.
>>64106072
np bro. Yamaha cheapos surprises in the long one. Very sturdy guitars but not a sparkly/jangly tone in that price range. Thicker woods = bassier tone
does anyone here have any experience with guitar pickups in a bass? I think it's the tone I'm after.
>>64107178
I asked the same question awhile back to a few guitar fags and they looked at me like I sucked 1000 dicks. Something about the pickups not having enough output with the thicker strings blah blah blah pretty sure they didnt know what they were talking about.
>>64107178
The Gibson G-3 bass used guitar single coils for pickups.
Cliff Burton put a strat pickup in place of the bridge mute on his modded Ric.
What sound are you after? Pickup placement and positioning matters a whole lot.
>>64107429
It'll work just fine, you just need to implement it properly.
Family, I want to get a really light 1x15 or 2x10 for when I just want to jam but don't feel like lugging my Ampeg 8x10 around.
One option is just buying a lightweight bass cab to plug my head into. For this I was thinking maybe the Fender Rumble, the GK CX115, or the Avatar B115.
Another option is using a powered monitor and just plugging my Sansamp into it. No clue where to start with those though.
Help me out?
who /brutal/ here?
Aside from the sick looks, this baby feels amazing and is a tonal monster ever since I upgraded the pickups and preamp (EMG 40DC + EMG BQS System)
>>64107443
>This dudes full of shit, look it up
>WAAAAT
http://www.seymourduncan.com/forum/showthread.php?280656-Cliff-Burton-Rickenbacker-pickup-confusion
You guys think its ok to hide another pickup within the wood? I want to get a guitar pickup in the bass but i dont want to remove the humbucker (the only pu on it).
>>64107519
Getting a small cab is probably a good bet. I'd personally go for one of those new Ampeg 210's but anything you can find cheap used and local would probably fit the bill just as good as anything else. Also mind the power ratings so you don't blow speakers
>>64107519
Why not a Markbass 102 or 151? Their stuff is really light and well made.
>>64107443
I am looking for a better percussive tone that's got plenty of string noise. I also think a guitar pickup might get a better tone with a bass boost or into an ampeg than a jazz or p-bass pickup. Basically I am hoping it will respond well to playing a bit too hard.
I'm gonna be putting it between my jazz's two pickups.
>>64107657
yeah but the wood will make a difference. My guess is that this would be really difficult to pull off without breaking the wood. The pickup will be really far from the strings, too. It'd be difficult to balance. Under the pickguard is a bit more practical.
>>64107579
X shape master race. I really wanted a BC rich stealth but there all niche custom shop ones :(
>>64108088
there's been various guitar shapes I've been interested in that I've given up on since. By now I've realized the strap button absolutely must be in a balanced position for me to consider owning it. If I really liked it I'd consider a mod. Those ibanez headstocks only exacerbate the problem though.
>>64108429
You do realize you just relocate a strap button?
>>64108730
Absolutely, I've already done it to one of my basses. The result wasn't satisfactory to me. I need better balance.
>>64101010
the will to death album.also smile from the streets you hold
>>64109209
binding looks bad
>>64101763
9" masterrace reporting
>>64108429
All those knobs...Do you have 2 preamps, a di and piezo in there somewhere?
>>64109381
It's not my bass but that's really not a lot of knobs. 3 band eq and volume probably. That's one reason I don't like active basses.
>>64108088
Literally looks like my moms retarded starfish
I'm trying to change the pickguard on my J Mascis Jazzmaster and the screws for the rhythm pots don't quite align. I'm aware there's an issue with the VM jazzmaster where the screws align with the Centre of the pots instead of the edges of them, needing a different bracket, but this is different. The screw is just like 2 mm out of line. I cant squeeze it into place because then the pots grind on the edge too hard and they don't move. What should I do? File down the screw hole or the pot holes or something? Sorry for the average photo.
>>64108088
>>64109741
>he fell for the starfish meme
want
>>64110115
My next purchase
>>64110250
So guys, i recently got one of these AF55s for about three hundo. Pretty nice little entry level hollow body electric. Has a decent jazzy sound and it handles distortion pretty well too.
>>64110421
Forgot pic
>>64110362
very aquatic taste my dude
>>64110039
why are you changing the pickguard
>>64110250
>go to play wonderwall for qts
>start playing and accidentally bump 4th volume control
>then the sound is too dark but can't figure which of the 8 tone controls or anti-parallel reciprocal 3pdt switches to hit
now I just play harsh noise into MASF pedals
>>64107840
Honestly what you want is lower action, fresh steel rotosounds, and a heavy attack. If you can't get there on a stock jazz I don't think a guitar pickup will help
>>64110536
not him but gold pickguards are shit
>>64110579
your opinion is shit
>>64110593
eat my opinion and like it
>>64110552
Kek
>>64110552
what is MASF
>>64110362
I rode a pegasus and stole this guitar from an arch angel, senpai.
>>64110536
yeah not a huge fan of the gold.
since posting ive realised that the whole pickguard is slightly smaller than the JM pickguard. its like it was reduced by 0.5%. I asked around and researched heaps and everyone assured me it would fit, pretty pissed off. i guess ill just screw back on the gold and sell the mint green one
SPEAKER WIRING QUESTION
Pic related is how I have my 4x12 wired. Is it parallel? It was wired in series/parallel (x pattern). The speakers are 16ohms each but I need a 4ohm load for my ampeg v2. pls hlp
>>64110657
Inexpensive and transparent blues overdrive pedals. Maybe you've heard of their Timmyklon Alpha.
>>64110684
>Is it parallel?
nope
>>64110684
The + from the Jack goes to the + on every single speaker, the - from the Jack goes to the - on every single speaker. That way all of them are parallel and you get a 16/4 Ohm load, so 4Ohm. You're welcome.
>>64110576
well, I wanted to describe what I wanted in a way that wasn't just describing something an EQ can do. I'm very happy with what I have but I want more options. I know a guitar pickup will at least sound different. I want to use flatwounds. After all, the tone I use most is flatwound. I really like some of the sounds you get from digging in to flatwounds with a pick and I hope a guitar pickup will help explore this. I want to be able to get a grindier more defined tone than even my jazz pickups provide. To be clear this won't be replacing my pickups.
>>64110684
what the fuck are you doing
>>64110657
http://masf.figity.com/pedals
i was trying out a MASF possessed delay the other day on a sample i recorded to a microGranny. the whole sample plays through once and then its looped while i play the possessed to glitch it up.
https://clyp.it/dr35bjzp
>>64110684
Just to be clear, this doesn't produce sounds for you, right?
>>64110684
a Y pattern is a good one to use. Your diagram is only a little more than 4 ohms.
>>64110857
The tone you want isn't something flats really do. A bright grindy percussive sound is what steel rounds are for.
>>64110840
Thanks
>>64110880
I don't know man
>>64100914
Tuner accuracy is measured in cents, but what is a cent exactly? I known that it's 1/100th, but 1/100th of what? Of 1Hz? Of a note/half step?
Also, how accurate of a tuner do I need to properly set intonation on my instruments? How much should I spend on a tuner? Recommendations? (chromatic mode is a must and preferably it should work via mic as well so I can also tune acoustic instruments)
>>64110960
It does. I plugged a SS amp into it and it made sound. What does that mean?
>>64111013
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cent_(music)
Two questions:
What is the best boutique alternative to a Fender Princeton reissue?
What, in your opinion, is the most beautiful hollowbody or semi-hollowbody on the market today?
>>64110965
Whats a Y pattern?
>>64111074
So every tuner with 1 cent accuracy should be good enough for intonation?
>>64111089
Why don't you lookitdafuckup?
>>64103711
Tom is easily the tackiest part of Blink and Blink is really tacky to begin with.
proof: see Angels and Airwaves
Is there a way that you can set up a Floyd rose bridge so you can easily go between standard and drop D? I think it should be possible but I haven't found anything about it online. Anyone know of anything?
>>64111227
Cuz I can't find DA mothafucka biiiiiiiiitch.
Like 3 speakers instead of 4?
>>64111506
there's some sort of switch thing that exists which switched between standard and drop D
>>64110684
This is how you get a 4 ohm load out of 4 16 ohm speakers
>>64111547
http://www.zzounds.com/item--EVHDTUNA?siid=28975
this looks like what im looking for. thanks
How do I figure out the DCR/output of a humbucker when it's split? If it is 10 DCR in series is it 5 DCR when split?
>>64111646
glad i could help anon
>>64111055
It means what you drew wasn't what you actually wired.
>>64111550
disinfo pls go
Any other bassanons here use TalkBass?
Aside from the lame memes they have it's a pretty good forum desu
>>64111763
>TalkBass?
I wanted to check them out before but I never really did. I hate forums in general, which is why I hang out here way too often. How is the tone of discussion over there? Do they offer good info or is it the same shit as everywhere else?
>>64111763
P bass with flats bro total mojo
>>64111754
What are you talking about
That's the proper way to wire 4 speakers in parallel, or at least how you'd see it done in a diagram. See pic related.
>>64111818
They have a lot of really good info on tap.
Name brand amp designers and company reps are fairly active too. I had an issue with my VB-2 amp and Robert (the guy at peavey who designed and made the amp) PMd me and he let me send it to him to fix it.
Larry Hartke posts sometimes and a few years back even posted his phone #.
AgedHorse can answer just about anything SS amp related. He was the designer at Genz Benz and now works for mesa.
We even had Uli Behringer chime in a while back.
Community is pretty mature. Although some members are infamous for shitting up threads.
>>64111822
You forgot the tort
>>64111550
>>64112015
>>64110840
Literally all 3 of these say the exact same thing, is this a meme or are you people just stupid?
>>64111550
Shit I noticed a mistake
I'm retarded
Whats a good guitar and amp combo for around $500?
I NEED HELP PLS BOUYS,
How do i calculate / find out the amp ohm impedence ???
Got a speaker with 16ohm impedence and need to know if any of these two amps can deal with it.
>bump with pretty guitars
>>64112223
used MiM strat/tele for 300 + used Yamaha THR10 for 200
if you only want new gear your options are more limited and youre setting yourself up for disappointment
/gg/, how much would you say that having great/excellent (other than just regular/ordinary) guitar skills is necessary for making gear/pedal demos for youtube?
Do you watch them to see people showing proficiency with their playing or are you fine with basic guitar chops it as long as it's entertaining, has a good format and demos well the gear?
>>64112333
I'm ok with used gear. I was looking into a used Tele for about $400.
>>64112223
Used mim/mij strat for 300 and an old peavey tube combo for 200.
When buying a used guitar always set aside $50 for new strings and a good tech to set it up.
>>64112305
it usually says it on the back of a speaker?
get a multimeter
>>64112223
fender champion 40 and an epiphone dot
I had a Bugera 1960 non infinium model that was pretty good but I sold it stupidly.
Are the infiniums that much worse?
>>64112361
so long as the playing isn't absolute trash, and shows the gear thoroughly i'll be happy
>>64112372
400 is way too much for a used one unless its made in japan or america
for a made in mexico you should expect to pay no more than 300-350 anymore youre getting ripped off
>>64112493
I mean how do i know if an amp can handle more than one ohm impedence, doesnt say on the owners manual, and online it says "either 8 or 16" ohms so thats no fucking help. Was wondering if you could calculate it with volt input and wattage???
>have mroe pretty guitars
>>64112361
Personally I don't care about the playing, I just want to see the pedal. And not the pedal chained with another 6 revervs and distortions I just want to hear the pedal.
>>64112610
You can always have a higher impedance speaker cabinet, it'll just not get as loud. If you get a cabinet with a lower impedence than what the amp is rated for the amp can be damaged, so don't do that. No, you're not going to calculate the impedance by the wattage rating and input voltage, that's complete nonsense. The speaker cabinet should have the impedance written on it, when in doubt use a multimeter (ohm meter) to check or check the individual speakers and see how they're wired up.
>>64112572
good juden. buy my brand new very good amp watts many. allahu akbar!!
>>64112361
amazing skills are not important
whats important is showing all the pedals features and playing songs that actually complement and show off what the pedal does well
I remember watching some Miku and other monophonic pedal demos with retards just strumming chords and then being surprised when it sounded terrible
>>64112361
I hate when I'm watching like a fuzz or overdrive demo and its some old fuck that's playing contemporary jazz for like 5 minutes and then talks about the pedal for like 1 minute and then goes back to playing. Knobs is probably the best pedal reviewer on YouTube.
>>64112715
haha yeah i mean i think anderton's does some pretty good demos (esp for price related stuff) but they really shat on the miku unfairly (although the miku pedal is kind of dumb)
>>64112589
Mexico makes many teles that are better than Japanese models....
You could buy an awesome mim (classic series) in that price range.
ex
https://reverb.com/item/2011818-fender-classic-50-s-telecaster-2006-white-blonde
>>64112771
I'm not really defending the Miku, just the first thing that came to mind
I don't like anderton's pedal reviews at all.
Robs a hack and just does mindless shredding, he really just doesn't know how to demo stuff properly. Not to mention he loves to turn up the gain. Other dude always has to get them back on topic and he's on the phone half the time trying to figure out what the shit does.
>>64112817
i dont trust mexicans
>>64112709
speaker is 16 ohms in the one i want to use
(celestion seventy50)
so, presuming I understood what you said, i could take out this liuttle 4ohm speaker on this amp, wire up the amp to the 16ohm speaker, and it would work?
I asked a techy friend about this and he said its best to use something that outputs to 16ohms usually as driving the speaker with a lower power can cause ti to sound like complete wank. ???
>>64112866
Well you shouldn't trust fender at all since they also had a big role in the Fender Factory in the 50s and 60s.
>>64112912
The nips make better guitars. They also have the capability to produce drawings and cartoons that cause my penis to explode
>>64112902
So you want to swap out a speaker in a cabinet? The cabinet just holds 1 speaker, correct? Yes, that should work but nobody can guarantee you how it'll sound obviously.
What exactly is your amp rated at? As I said, going up to a 16 Ohm speaker when your amp is rated at 8 Ohm means that your amp will not be able to deliver its full power to it, it WILL be more quiet. But it won't sound bad or anything like that, literally just less power available to the speaker. Be careful with lower impedance speakers or cabinets or using 2 in parallel, if you amp is rated at 8 Ohm you should NOT use a 4 or 2 Ohm speaker with it, this can damage your amp.
>>64112912
yeah, that's why I buy japanese
>>64112361
i think the main thing to focus on is playing in the style of whatever the pedal dictates. like you wouldn't buy some high gain metal distortion to play folk songs.
i think that's why i like andy from proguitarshop. he's not really some guthrie govan level player, but he gets to the point in what the pedals can be used for and he demos it with some songs/styles that would fit it, and he shows off the features too.
>>64113037
nah its just the single speaker swap, what i intend to do is take the amp out from its casing, fucking get rid of the nasty speaker that came with it, create a cabinaet to house the new 12" celestion speaker and old amp unit, just the one speaker so yeah no worry about parallel wirring etc. Just wondering if itd be worth using the cheaper (presumably less powerful) amp from a practice amp, or take out my orange 20w crush amp and use that to drive the 12" speaker, as then its just going from an 8" to a 12" which i imagine would have less of a negative effect compared to the practice amp going from this little 4ohm 10 watt baby speaker to the 12".
>problem being I like the sound of my orange crush 20 when i dial the clean channel to 11 and I dont wanna lose that, though it would sound dirty as fuck with the other speaker
>so many numbers wahh i hope i didnt derp
Is there a PRS guitar that doesn't look tacky?
>>64112382
this doesn't work stfu
your positive and negative never even connect
>>64113007
>>64113040
weaboo scum please go
>>64113173
I'd say just build it with the new speaker and then try out both amps, use whatever sounds better to you.
>>64113373
those fucking inlays
>>64112574
>>64112613
>>64112715
>>64112735
>>64113141
Thanks, that's what I was hoping to hear. I'm a decent player but I'm certainly not a shredder or someone who blows people minds with my playing.
What I do know, however, is a shit-ton about marketing, video, pedals and entertainment formats. That's what my professional career is focused towards. I have been doing gear demos for the past year with a partner that does all the playing but as these things usually go, things are starting to get messy and the partnership (he's admittedly in for boosting his own image as a guitarist and producer, not really about the actual product showcase), it isn't holding up so I think it's time to step it up and start doing my own thing now. Though we're still friends, we agreed to end the partnership some weeks ago.
I have everything else but currently my playing is the thing giving me doubts. I'm a decent player but definitely not someone anywhere near the same level as Andy from PGS or even my old partner. Think more like Captain Lee from Andertons or even Knobs (though Knobs is still a better player than I am).
Still, I know what people like on demos and I know how to showcase these things and I have contacts to get the gear to demo. I love pedals, gear, I certainly know a lot more about them than most people, including my old partner, and I do genuinely love this as hobby. I also have contacts with some guitarists who would be more than willing to make appearances and fill some gaps and show different styles whenever needed.
I know some people here dislike me but these answers gave me enough of a confidence boost to at least give it a try. And what the heck, worst case scenario I still get to try something new and benefit from the experience.
Thanks, folks.
>>64113319
I have one of the SE 24 Custom SE's from 2010 before they had a carved top (in blue), definitely takes away from the 'posh' factor.
>>64113494
No reverb?
>>64113494
I wouldn't trust anyone for reviews who bought a wooly mammoth 6. For a demo, sure, but I sure as hell don't want to hear your thoughts if you thought that was worth the money.
>>64113575
OBNE Procession is the last missing piece on the board. Should be here in some weeks.
>>64113580
As I said, I spent the past year doing demos, which means I receive pedals from companies to demo. ZVEX sent me the wholly mammoth 7 to demo and I kept it.
Would I pay $500 for it? No.
Is it the best fuzz I've ever heard? Yes.
>>64113401
>he's not a bird watcher
laughingskanks.png
best pedal demoer I've watched is schnobel
does nice comparisons too
>>64113647
>Would I pay $500 for it? No.
>Is it the best fuzz I've ever heard? Yes.
Thankfully you can build it for 30 bucks without any issues.
>>64113580
i don't know what exactly it is about zvex fuzzes but they all sound like a fuzz face in a tin can with a fly buzzing around inside it.
i can see how they might be useful in a studio, in some songs i can clearly hear guys using a fuzz factory, but outside of a studio they seem way too finicky and unreliable, and probably weak as hell live and too compressed.
>>64113494
shill your channel again. I promise I'm really interested this time
Had this kinda idea for a guitar finish. I used my photoshop skills and made a concept. What's your guys opinion? Is it to gimmicky? I really been thinking of an original pattern here. Not sure if it's been done before or if this is the colors I'd choose for a finished product but what do you think? Does it have potential?
>>64113816
green and purple reminds me of teenage mutant ninja turtles
>>64113739
I don't think there are any schematics for the WM7 yet but sure, if you can build ANY pedal you'd like with enough competence for it to sound the same and you don't care about graphics/visuals, I'm the first person to encourage going the DIY route.
I have no problem whatsoever with DIY, cheap pedals and clones.
>>64113783
I'ts not my channel, it's my partner's. It's his name and face on the channel.
I do the co-production, videography, editing, photography, marketing and company/manufacturer outreach/deals and provide the studio where we film and most of the gear (mainly the guitars), but yeah, it's his channel and soon enough I won't be a part of it anymore.
He's still a great friend but currently I don't agree about several things regarding the format and a few other things but if you really want to check it out, here it is: https://www.youtube.com/user/vhtargino
>>64113816
Gimmicky? No it just looks like shit
like some Mountain Dew flavoured Doritos or something got spilled all over my hardwood floor
>>64113847
Hahaha, good insight though that's more winered than purple.
>>64113895
>Moutain dew flavoured doritos
Made me laugh out loud
>>64113647
Aahh I want that reverb so badly
>>64113771
They give you a lot of control. More than most amps and pedals. Since the controls are interactive, there a many unusable settings. Granted you get a couple new sounds, but you also get a lot of farty starved transistors or oscillating. This is with their FF, mammoth, masto. TLDR you gotta fuck with the knobs quite a bit more than most gear
>>64113876
>I don't think there are any schematics for the WM7 yet but sure, if you can build ANY pedal you'd like with enough competence for it to sound the same and you don't care about graphics/visuals, I'm the first person to encourage going the DIY route.
Not for the 7, no. But from everything I've seen it's literally the same (extremely simple) clipping circuit, they just added a 3-band EQ instead of a simple low pass filter.
>I have no problem whatsoever with DIY, cheap pedals and clones.
Neither do I, I have a perfectly working Woolly mammoth (I don't know which version) which sounds great and cost me 30 bucks. I strongly encourage everyone who can hold a soldering iron and has a few hours to spare to DIY, especially for this pedal.
>>64113847
>>64113895
What this color alteration or is the pattern shit?
>>64114132
>M-mom! Billy broke the glass vase!
>>64114132
i don't really like the pattern
maybe try using a lighter color of the base color, so they're more like highlights rather than being so obvious
>>64103116
>Does no one in these threads own a hollowbody guitar?
I want to play my jazz on a Mememaster.
>>64112167
underrated post
>>64113947
Yeah, I'm excited as well. I hope I can get my hands on the Dark Star and the Reflector some day as well. OBNE, Walrus Audio and ChaseBliss Audio are currently my favorite pedal makers.
Also just bought some new NOS Mullard 12AT7s (ECC81s, actually) made in Britain for the reverb driver and phase inverter on my Deluxe Reverb. Currently my two 12AT7s are a noise fest if I turn up the reverb past 3.
Really excited about having both a good amp spring reverb and the Procession now.
>>64114058
>from everything I've seen it's literally the same
It's not. Had the opportunity to compare with a regular WM and on the channel without the EQ (which is called 'Classic WM mode' or something like that), they sound considerably different. ZVEX even says so in the manual. With the EQ on it's like a completely different pedal and you can't even match the stock WM sound.
They should have called something it else in my opinion because although it's inspired and can sound close to the regular WM, it's definitely different. It's definitely not just a WM with an added 3-band EQ. And yes, before receiving it I had as much doubt as you currently do that it would sound that different or be worth the price.
But yeah, I'm still with you, man. I think ZVEX is still expensive, specially the hand painted ones, and they can afford to charge that much because of fame. I still think they make awesome pedals and I truly appreciate and respect them for that. How people choose to spend their money is a completely different discussion imo and I can understand and respect both sides of the discussion.
>>64114132
Grape flavoured doritos.
>>64114265
I can respect that stance fully, but honestly seeing someone sell 2$ in parts (+mechanical parts) for 300+ or 500+ Dollars just doesn't feel right. Of course whatever people are willing to pay for it dictates the price, but I honestly want more people to DIY so outrageous prices like that maybe go down a bit, which is a net positive and honestly, won't hurt mister Vex one bit.
>>64114458
I'll take "Almost every pedal builder ever" for 100, Alex.
>>64114458
Yeah but you know the same things happens with a lot of other things, right? You can build clothes with higher quality that cost a fraction of the price of big name brands. You can also build amps, guitars and lots of things.
DIY'ing pedals isn't something most people are comfortable with. Although it's easy and simple from a certain point of view, learning to understand electronic schematics, how to solder, how to buy and identify parts and still deal with failure, frustration and time loss - especially at the beginning - isn't worth it for most people who just want the pedals to play. And you also still have no graphics/visuals, no resale or collection value. This is a big deal for a lot of people who are into pedals. Also, people who can afford $500 for a fuzz probably make more by the hour than it would take them to learn how to build one from scratch, which means buying the damn thing is cheaper for them.
I'm actually really glad when people buy expensive pedals regardless of the simplicity of their circuits. It gets the market going and growing, I think this ultimately benefits everyone, including DIYers.
>>64114668
*make clothes, whatever
>>64114180
>>64114201
>>64114382
Kek and thanks for the input guys. Gonna go sleep now since is fucking 5 am where I live.
>>64114644
>>64114668
Sure, but not to this extreme. 300 bucks for 6 resistors, 2 elcos, 4 capacitors and 2 transistors is just ludicrous. We're talking many MANY thousand % profit margins here.
Resell value really is a moot point when you build it for literally a fraction of the cost. I simply don't get the collection aspect of it, so that is what it is.
Also, I think you're forgetting a huge portion of people. There's the DIYers, they don't care about the price, then there's the people who buy 600$ pedals, onviously don't care about the price either, but then there's a whole lot of people who want them, can't afford them and don't even know how simple it is/how little they actually cost. And those are the kinds of people who'd benefit from lower prices on pedals.
>>64114889
What's up central europe? Germany?
>>64114911
>but then there's a whole lot of people who want them, can't afford them and don't even know how simple it is/how little they actually cost
But these people are just dumb (or lazy) not to realize that there's a cheaper way for them to do it themselves with some effort. You can't blame companies for charging what they do regardless of production cost (also, you're completely forgetting/ignoring about other costs of running a company, which directly affects the price of the product, it's just not parts value).
This is capitalism, get used to how it works. I really fucking want a BMW M4 but I'm not crying at BMW for charging what they do. I want it, I can't have it and there's that. It's done. Kudos for those who can afford them, I won't hold my poverty or jealousy over them.
>>64115023
Even dumb consumers deserve protection and consumers should also be higher on your priority list than copanies, since no matter what you're doing you'll always be a consumer in some way. Manufacturing costs really aren't too bad, an hour of soldering work, not sure how long that painting takes but let's be honest, they're not hiring amazing artists to do it. That's a few hours of work total, still way more than a thousand perfect of profit margin, which is more than enough to keep your company afloat. tl,dr: he's doing just fine and those prices ARE ridiculous.
>>64114938
Scandinavia, Sweden ;)
>>64115158
Your speech here is against capitalism in general.
If by know you haven't got used to how it works then I don't know what to tell you. You're either lacking education or you're naive.
>>64114911
Chicago Stompworks will make cloned pedals for you.
I know schematics are not intellectual property, but I feel this company is kind of working inside of a grey area. Not that other companies don't operate similarly.
>>64115203
*now
>>64114265
Just because it always sounds different does not mean that there's some extra wiring apart from the stack. The stack is bound to have some side effects, that's probably what makes it sound different. Those side effects, however, are definitely reproducible by basic EQ and filters. Or, more easily, by any old marshall-style tone stack. I'm not saying the effects are small or trying to accuse you of falling for snake oil. But the small funky effects of a tine stack has a huge impact on pretty much any distortion circuit. But the flexibility, and more importantly to this argument, the impact on the overall tone offered by the tone circuit is not going to be anything better than what's offered by other tone stacks. I'm 100% sure the differences are accidental. It would be more difficult to make a wooly mammoth with a tone stack sound the same.
>>64115158
What about the time it takes to come up with an original circuit? Isn't that worth something? If you keep stealing from the guy that designs the circuit what motivation does he have to keep coming up with new circuits?
>>64115203
>Your speech here is against capitalism in general.
Protecting consumers is against capitalism? Wow, sure is american in here.
I will not start a discussion about economics on here, but let me just end this by saying I'm appalled by that kind of attitude.
>>64115291
Look at it this way: they charge what they do because people are willing to pay it. If nobody was willing to pay $300 for a pedal worth $30, then there wouldn't be $300 pedals.
>>64115291
>I'm appalled by that kind of attitude.
Then join some communist protest group while the rest of the world moves on.
>>64115284
>The stack is bound to have some side effects, that's probably what makes it sound different.
The stack is completely bypassed without it engaged. The core WM circuit has been changed for this, according to them.
But whatever, I don't really care. You buy it if you want it, you don't if you don't. Getting butthurt about how other people spend their money is pathetic and this discussion is boring.
Any advice for gain-staging your fuzz tone? I received a couple of hand-me-down pedals from one of my uncles and they seem well suited...
I'm running guitar -> boost -> fuzz -> amp
Do you start finding a good tone on the neck pickup, bridge, or middle? Do you max the volume on either of the pedals? EQ settings?
>>64115364
This. I can't grasp my mind around the fact that an educated adult would have a problem understanding that and rebelling against it unless well, they weren't educated adults and instead just let their sociology classes get way too much into their heads.
>>64115364
people are only willing to pay for it because they're lied to.
>>64115468
Yes to everything you said. Experiment, only you know what sounds good to you, unless you are trying to cop someone else's tone.
>>64115482
Is this a new capitalism related version of a White Knight?
>>64115468
putting the boost before or after the fuzz will both result in usable and different tones. There's no right answer for this.
>>64103051
well you fucked up. pretty though
>>64115290
>original circuit
Cute, but that doesn't exist. They all come down to a few basic circuits that you just combine in new ways.
>>64115364
That never was my argument, at all. I even said that exact same thing earlier.
>>64115382
>hurr durr communism
>capitalism good, everything else bad!
Calling everyone who doesn't blindly agree with everything that's pure free market/capitalism a communist and immediately saying that it's bad is childish and frankly not worth my time. As I said, sure smells american in here, I will not respond to this reply chain, there's nothing to be gained from a discussion like this with that kind of attitude.
>>64115482
Wew lad
>>64115506
Nah, I'm not trying to cop anyone's specific tone. I understand that there are no rules but figured I'd ask anyway. Thanks senpai.
>>64115548
>sure smells american in here
I'm not american.
>I will not respond to this reply chain, there's nothing to be gained from a discussion like this with that kind of attitude.
Yeah, I think it's a good thing for you to stop. You're clearly a naive idiot who read way too much into Karl Marx.
new thread
>>64115604
>>64115548
So putting theses basic circuits together in a new way that no one else has done before isn't original? Lol, lemme guess you consider yourself anti-capitalist to morally justify robbing someone of their hard work.
>>64115548
Man it must suck being yuropoor
>>64115555
Best bet is that if you can think of trying it, you should.
>>64112416
What are some good strings for an old tele?
I don't think disagreeing with what one company or another does is taking issue with the free market. I'm not saying they should be shut down, obviously. I'm just disagreeing with that company.
I think it's bad to be totally apathetic to these things. The government is not gonna shut these companies down, but that doesn't mean they shouldn't change. They exist by throwing a shitload of money into advertising and a tiny amount into r&d. The fact that the pedals themselves are $30 in parts shows how much money is wasted.
>>64116121
*yawns*
>>64116119
It's personal preference. Just buy a pack of medium gauge steels and see if you like them.
>>64103116
i fucking wish i owned a hollowbody
Is there any tonal advantage to having 1 pickup and a single volume control?
>>64117314
No.
Although a lot of signature models will just have a bridge p/u and a volume knob.
