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Self Bump for classical.
I recently got into Mozart's piano sonatas and wow I have not once been disappointed by his adagios.
>>64037952
I agree. Mozart will always be great.
>>64037952
>>64038033
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49oiE8Tj1UU
Movement 2 is probably one of the most beautiful things I've heard.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HON-9Z1Greo
can someone link me that mega folder with everything?
>>64036906
what do these gay sailors have to do with classical music
>>64039637
They're from Bernstein's play and it's just a picture for the OP. Post whatever you want.
Can anybody rec me some really Dark and Intense classical music? I'm already familiar with Schoenberg.
>>64039637
Also don't shit talk Ol' Blue eyes.
>>64039756
>>64038770 and other Shostakovich works
What're some good books on music?
>>64039756
Check out Shostakovich's 8th Symphony and 8th String Quartet.
>>64039756
Wozzeck
Opinion on Andriessen?
Relistening to his works, I've come to enjoy Workers Union, Symfonie voor Losse Snaren and specially De Tijd, which will most likely become one of my favorites.
Has Mussorgsky done anything of worth besides Pictures at An Exhibition and Night On Bald Mountain?
>>64041726
Boris Godunov
>>64039756
Schnittke
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8IwbnmJ_8M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td-cUkR1Tu8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3Xehs1rHfM
>>64041770
Have you actually listened to Boris Godunov?
>>64041958
Have you? It's great.
>>64041958
>poly links
>questioning Boris
poly/10 shitpost.
Thoughts on this?
>>64042223
Of course. I found it pretty mediocre compared to operas written by talented composers.
Mussorgsky's orchestration is a shambles
>>64042723
>Mussorgsky's orchestration is a shambles
So what? Mussorgsky's innovative harmonies and unique vision of Russian drama make up for his shoddy orchestration. It's no surprise that the opera is the most significant from the Five despite its shortcomings, which is why so many composers tried to "fix" them.
>>64043214
>Mussorgsky's innovative harmonies and unique vision of Russian drama make up for his shoddy orchestration
not really. Its more than just the orchestration. the entire thing is low quality and garish.
Being a drunk who doesn't care about music is different to being innovative with harmony
>>64043335
Not quite as low quality as your argument.
I wonder why Debussy, Shostakovich, Stravinsky didn't proclaim him to merely be "a dunk who doesn't care about music" and instead actually studied his works.
>>64043335
>posts Shitnittke
>calls anything else low quality
>>64043890
Schnittke actually knew what he was doing though
>>64043410
>I wonder why Debussy, Shostakovich, Stravinsky...actually studied his works
Same reason you study folk music? irregular rhythms, unusual harmonies, more natural feeling that trained composers are always interested in capturing.
>>64044239
Fuck off poly
>poly underrating Mussorgsky
What're some good recordings of his works?
>>64041726
Songs of Dances and Death are pretty good
>>64038033
Mozart is pretty cool. I like his concertos and operas.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06aowQYxt-8
>>64036906
Who're good British composers?
Hardmode: no one before Purcell and no Britten.
>>64045908
>good British composers
>after Purcell
u 'avin a giggle m8?
>>64045949
Maxwell Davies and Britten are both ok.
>>64045908
not hard so much:
Vaughan Williams
Michael Tippett
Rebecca Clarke
William Boyce
Stephen Dodgson
Which proms are you going to, /classical/?
>>64045908
Tallis, Fayrfax, Tavener, Byrd ----- Tippet, Ferneyhough, Finnissy
>>64036906
>good save the queen
post gene kelly in new york
>logic
>>64039617
https://mega.co.nz/#F!mMYGhBgY!Ee_a6DJvLJRGej-9GBqi0A
https://mega.co.nz/#F!lIh3GRpY!piUs-QdhZACFt2hGtX39Rw
https://mega.co.nz/#F!Y8pXlJ7L!RzSeyGemu6QdvYzlfKs67w
https://mega.co.nz/#F!kMpkFSzL!diCUavpSn9B-pr-MfKnKdA
https://mega.nz/#F!ekBFiCLD!spgz8Ij5G0SRH2JjXpnjLg
https://mega.co.nz/#F!4EVlnJrB!PRjPFC0vB2UT1vrBHAlHlw
https://mega.co.nz/#F!ygImCRjS!1C9L77tCcZGQRF6UVXa-dA
https://mega.co.nz/#F!il5yBShJ!WPT0v8GwCAFdOaTYOLDA1g
https://mega.co.nz/#F!DdJWUBBK!BeGdGaiAqdLy9SBZjCHjCw
Those are all the mega links I have.
Best recording of Also sprach Zarathustra:
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1136036
What's your opinion on Anima Eterna's Beethoven cycle?
>>64046548
The one with Immerseel conducting? It's good.
Hey guys, I've only just recently gotten into classical, and I've gotten CLT's guide with the rutracker links, and I just downloaded the stuff by the Hilliard ensemble.
My question is, is there any particular order I should listen to the stuff included with that? There are a lot of artists I don't know although some I do (Bach and Mozart obviously).
Also, I downloaded recordings of everything Mozart has ever done from a thread on /t/ and I was wondering if there were any comprehensive guides to Mozart because I think it's a total of almost 200 pieces.
Thanks in adavance
>>64047053
>collection of all pieces that Mozart has ever done
>200
Lol
Anyways start with his piano concertos, listen to the odd ones starting at 19.
>>64046032
Probably none. But if I play my cards right I /may/ get to sing with the Youth Choir in the Verdi Requiem that's getting done.
But that's at about 20/80 chances at the moment I think
>>64047053
>and I've gotten CLT's guide with the rutracker links
>>64047727
what's wrong with that?
what does /classical/ know about music from antiquity?
>>64049453
There's very little of it and most of it is heavily reconstructed with lots of wild guessing. Stuff like pic related is interesting but you have to take its authenticity with a pinch of salt.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1z0zaGDzlQ
>>64046548
Good, although the Schubert cycle is even better
Guys is liszt good? Ive listened to some of his waltzes and dances, im not to sure about him, was he a wanker?
>>64049607
2nd most underrated composer after Mozart
>>64049615
>underrating Chopin and Schumann this hard
>>64049607
Listen to Années de pèlerinage and Via Crucis for a less wankerish Liszt
>>64049615
>>64049628
John Williams is definitely the most underrated composer
>>64049628
>Chopin
Literally had no idea how to compose for anything that wasn't a piano
>Schumann
Sort of a proto-Liszt so I can see your point. Had he lived longer and not gone crazy and gotten cucked then maybe
>>64049723
>Literally had no idea how to compose for anything that wasn't a piano
That's one more instrument he knew how to compose for compared to Liszt then.
Any of you guys, maybe private tracker members, know where I can find recordings of Midori Goto, tried to look for some on soulseek but wasn't lucky?
>>64049665
Currently 89 on the Billboard chart, couldn't see Mozart there.
>>64049787
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2366938
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5015073
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4818361
http://rutracker.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4105354
>>64041687
My favorite memealist, he has the benefit of not being a giant fag unlike Mr. 4th Reich
>>64041726
His piano works, Songs, Khovanschina, and Boris Godunov
>>64049607
His programmatic music is a hit or miss desu. His Dante stuff kinda sucks.
>>64050172
I liked Faust. Or at least some of the themes. Seemed weirdly orchestrated and oddly progressed though.
>>64049931
thx senpai
>>64049607
>Liszt is only remembered for being that wanker composer
When will this meme end, I wanna kill the fucking academic normies that started this meme
>>64049723
dude LMAO please kill yourself instead post bullshit.
Chopin (died too soon) have composed chamber music, two piano concerti and songs for voice and piano as well.
>>64051443
>composed chamber music, two piano concerti and songs for voice and piano as well.
Besides the songs, the other two you mentioned are garbage
Schumann and Liszt's concerti are better than Chopin's
>>64049723
Was it ever confirmed that Brahms cucked him?
Schumann was too good for the cunt Clara, should've gotten a nice girl like Mozart did
>>64051509
whole romantic period is fully loaded of cuck.
>>64051482
BRAVOOOOO!
>>64045908
JC Bach.
>tfw excellent releases like these almost never get noticed by anyone
>>64052632
>released on Pierre Verany
>composer executed for being gay
>>64052632
tfw
>James Levine is retiring
Good.
>>64052632
Why is that woman pinching her nipple?
>>64054346
feels good
This may be very specific but what are modernist piano works that have fugal elements/polyphony?
Like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sdY5JL_e6b4
>>64037952
>Scarlatti wrote 500+ sonatas and all are good
>>64056045
Rodion Shchedrin wrote a similar set of preludes and fugues. Not sure of any really modernist works
>>64045379
I definitely agree.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PCRhnmNhNY
>>64046371
>implying you have to be British to respect their queen and proms
>>64056045
Like this?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTpAIEp6DUo&ab_channel=Stravinskij0
>>64053218
>tfw there is a ferneyhough piece based on this painting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7M0MZ424g0
how do you guys enjoy violin? all the recordings ive heard so far just sound so whiny and sqeaky and have a fuck load of vibrato, its just impossible to sit for a while
>>64039756
Rautavaara - Piano Concerto #2
Rautavaara - Piano Sonata #2
Ustvolskaya - Piano Sonata #5
Ustvolskaya - Piano Sonata #6
Prokofiev - Piano Concerto #2-1st movement
Liszt - Totentanz
Bartok - Etudes
Bartok - Out of Doors-The Chase
Erkin - Piano Concerto
Erkin - Symphony #1
Vine - Piano Sonata #1
Bloch - Piano Sonata
Kalomiris - Prelude #1
>>64045908
Edward Elgar
Arnold Bax
Ralph Vaughan Williams
John Ireland
Cyril Scott
Frederick Delius
Not sure if Sorabji counts.
>>64049607
Liszt was a great and very innovative composer.
>>64060811
listen to cello, then viola, until you acclimatise
>>64060872
I think totentanz is liszt best piece. his piano sonata in b minor prob his second. third i dunno maybe mephisto waltz 1 or 2, they both start out pretty good
>>64060811
Maybe you should listen to newer recordings that have better audio quality.
>mfw plebs don't like Ferneyhough
>>64063267
reported for underage
>>64063281
hey man just bumping the thread
>>64063267
What did he mean by this? If you want bizzare then try a memealist I suppose.
>>64063539
no that would be sporkcore
whats some sporky classical
>>64063562
>Spork
Can you use English? I don't know any pieces that require a spork. The 1812 Overture requires a Cannon.
>>64063562
>whats some sporky classical
the only sporky stuff is on the crossroads of popular music and classical
for instance John Zorn and Frank Zappa
>>64063642
damn man your not keeping up with them dank memes what are you doing!
>>64063669
>>64063676
>Crossroads of pop music and Classical
Gershwin
>>64063702
Schoenberg took him pretty seriously. Well, they were friends and everything.
>>64063267
>AYYLMAO
doesn't that refer to aliens?
Stockhausen thought he was an alien, I suppose you could start with him.
Or try this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4basuUUatf8
>>64063756
I didn't mean to imply he wasn't serious but Rhapsody in Blue in particular straddles Classical and jazz.
>>64063857
Yeah, I get what you mean.
Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rry2ERUS1vU
>>64063857
mehhhhh. RiB is a lot more classical than it is jazz. It employs some "jazzy" harmonies, but that's largely a product of the innovations of 20th century classical in general.
This one imo does a better job of being at that crossroads.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1m39ZL9UzRw&ab_channel=Okmusix
Hey guys listen to this meme piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9S2CfDwNAg
also the ending was the biggest troll in music back in those days
>>64063562
You want WacKY?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGxnfrNbUQE
Not rhythmically difficult but relaxing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ou9J844io0
>Canon: deorsum
>>64056045
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19VxHGpzJBo
Bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LCAlzmWNees
>>64067226
counterbump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_MxTZlYL14
