ITT: 80s artists who survived the transition into the 90s
radiohead
Sonic Youth
>>63949652
>those outfits
Dave, you dirty, dirty bandwagoner, you.
>>63949652
I thought Megadeth fans hated their 90's output.
Risk and all that.
Nirvana, Soundgarden, AIC, Melvins, REM, MBV, Swans, Sonic Youth, Smashing Pumpkins, NIN, U2, the list goes on....
>>63949829
Didn't RIP come out in the 90s?
>>63949845
90 or 91, but it's basically 80's leftovers, the rest of the 90's Megadeth releases aren't looked upon highly.
They were relevant at least through Youthanasia, it's true they did die off in the second half of the 90s.
RHCP
I don't think most of the core mteal fans liked Youthanasia much though (?)
Pantera
:^)
>>63950291
see, that's what I meant.
>>63949971
>>63950291
Cryptic Writings was that album nobody actually gave one shit about.
>>63949652
Bjork
>>63949971
Countdown To Extinction is looked upon quite highly. More highly than any of their other or any of Metallica and Slayer's 90s albums I'd say.
>>63950670
went from New Wave stuff like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TnpwuRlXbhk
to full on 90s industrial like
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xdQ85jklOg
and became big MTV hits. They also successfully transitioned into the next two decades as well and put out an album that was a solid 8/10 just last year. Pretty similar to Swans in that regard.
>>63949667
80's?
>>63950685
That's true, Megadeth waited until 94 to finally make a commercial radio rock record while Metallica never made a pretense of being "metal" after the 80s.
>>63950742
Ironically, Tony Iommi said that TBA was one of his favorite albums.
>>63950742
The Black Album album isn't metal? Well okay then.
>>63950769
Well, the core metalheads were all burning their Metal Up Your Ass T-shirts when that came out, so...
>>63950758
Sauce?
>>63950785
and people also flipped their shit when Black Flag grew out their hair and the Clash started playing rockabilly covers, so fucking what?
>>63950769
>The Black Album album isn't metal? Well okay then.
lol not at all
>>63950818
it's times like this when I regret ever first coming to this fucking board in the first place.
>>63950803
It was an interview from the early 90s. I don't have a link but they asked Iommi about the then-current metal scene and what his favorite albums were and he mentioned liking TBA.
>>63950699
Killing Joke is a weird case. The yalso started Industrial and aggressive, they just came back to Industrial with the difference being they were now influenced from newer Industrial than the oldschool TG-influenced style.
>>63950812
>and the Clash started playing rockabilly covers, so fucking what?
Wow really? They didn't know how rock-and-roll originated in the 50s? Geez, The Clash were just paying homage to the founding fathers of rawk.
Does Soundgarden count since their first two albums came out in the 80s?
>>63950717
on a friday
>>63950864
They're a prime example of a band being influenced by the bands that they themselves influenced. By the 90s there was quite a bit of Ministry and Metallica in their sound, and by the early 00s there was some Nirvana in there too.
>>63950917
Their major labor debut was in 89 however they didn't become a household name until Badmotorfinger so I'd consider them a 90s band.
>>63950963
Same with Gary Numan, he influenced NIN and co, them he himself started making NIN-influenced music. Pretty interesting shit.
>>63950999
Yeah, I actually just first listened to Splinter for the first time a few days ago. Caught me completely off guard but good shit.
Aerosmith, they were really big in the late 80s, and they were consistently popular into the millennium.
fight me
>>63949652
Pete Burns.
>>63950714
too bad cliff burton didn't survive
>>63951119
>into the millennium
Nope. In the early 90s when Get A Grip was released and all their videos with Alicia Silverstone were made they were as huge as it gets, but in the late 90s they only had that Armageddon single. They simply don't exist past 2000.
Cocteau Twins
>>63951119
They're a 70s band though.
>>63951187
I read about how NL had been almost 5 years after Get A Grip and that Aerosmith had dropped off the radar considerably. The audiences at their concerts by 1997 were also a lot smaller than in 1991.
>>63951187
They were more or less floating off the success of Pump into the early 90s. They released Get a Grip in 93, and they were huge in that year and 94. 95 and 96 they were obviously quiet, but they were huge again in 97 and 98. They were pretty big again in the early 00s with Just Push Play (basically for the lead single 'Jaded"), and into 03 with the superbowl performance.
>>63949829
Smashing Pumpkins first album came out in 1991
Aerosmith were almost damn lucky that they were one of a few bands ever that had charting hits in three different decades. Considering that by the GIG era, most of their 70s peers were playing the county fair circuit.
Swans survived into the 2000s
>>63951412
Yes I definitely remember Aerosmith still being talked about in the late 90s and seeing their videos on TV. I don't remember Jaded oddly enough. And even years after the Superbowl performance, Steven Tyler was a judge on one of those American Idol kinds of shows (forget which one).
>>63951426
Four decades if you count Jaded. Also the Rolling Stones did have charting hits in three decades (remember that Start Me Up came out in 81).
I laughed at old Usenet posts from guys who were fans of Aerosmith in the 70s talking about how lame the GIG-NL era band was and "Yeah I guess New Aerosmith is fine and all if you're a 10 year old girl who listens to Britney Spears."
Tom Petty survived into the 2000s as well.
>>63951529
Do you know of an archive for old usenet music opinions? That sounds comfy af to read
>>63951439
Swans are a whole different story. The 2010 is technically their most succesful decade.
>>63951629
>2010s*
>>63951601
Shit's all on Google Groups.
>>63951746
gotcha
The cure, started during the punk/post-punk period and released their best album disintegration in the 90s.
>>63952038
>Disintegration
It was 1989. The 90s were shitty for The Cure.
Depeche Mode
Def Leppard were relevant through at least 1992.
>>63951746
god, I hate Gen Xer humor.
My cousin saw Motley Crue in 98 and everyone of course wanted to hear the old classics and rock out, but they insisted on playing stuff off their new shitty album they were plugging at the time and when people complained, Vince Neil started ranting and insulting the audience.
>>63952327
tbf he could be an early Millenial.
>>63950714
James Hetfield's looking like the devil himself
>>63952099
>90's were shitty for the Cure
They released Wish, which was fucking brilliant, influenced by 90's psychadelia and shoegaze, and had arguably their biggest single, Friday I'm In Love. In the early 90's they were as big as they ever got. Then they blew it with Wild Mood Swings kek
Guns and Roses
>>63953416
Man, they went down the shitter fast once Nirvana happened. UYI was a shitfest of an album compared with Appetite and Guns were rapidly being painted as misogynistic cockrock dinosaurs.
Were they playing giant stadiums in the early 90s? Yes. Did most of those fans care about their new stuff or were they just there for Sweet Child O' Mine? Nope.
>>63953529
True, but they still rode off their success. Never made anything close to Appetite for Destruction though, except some songs here and there like November Rain.
Guns really should have released a followup to Appetite in 1989 instead of 91. They waited too long just as Metallica waited too long between TBA and Load.
>>63953529
GNR was bigger than Nirvana even at Nirvana's peak.
This idea that Nirvana was the biggest most popular rock band of their time is total bullshit.
Fucking Pearl Jam sold more records than Nirvana through the early 90s, not to mention truly massive bands like U2 and Metallica and GNR.
Almost forgot: Duran Duran. Ordinary World and Come Undone saved them
>>63953669
Well no, I never claimed that. Pearl Jam and Soundgarden had more fans and were playing bigger venues than Nirvana because they had more of a stadium rock sound. In the end though, the alternative bands were the guy setting and defining trends while Guns were not. They were really the end of the twin-guitar sleaze rock bands that began with Exile-era Stones.
Like Debussy said of Wagner, "A beautiful sunset mistaken as a dawn."
You gotta remember, a whole lot of people really didn't like grunge and actually hated those bands for killing off their beloved spandex cockrock. To some extent, it was a demographic divide with most Pearl Jam/Nirvana fans being white bread angsty suburban teens with minivan parents while GNR and metal fans were usually trailer park queens.
>>63953921
There was always Pantera if you belonged to the cousin-fucker demographic.
>>63954009
Yes and Pantera did find a winning formula which was merging metal with grunge-style lyrics.
Off the top of my head:
Megadeth
The Stone Roses
Einstuerzende Neubauten
The Misfits
Killing Joke
GnR
David Byrne somehow managed to pull it off.
>>63954139
>The Stone Roses
Eh? The Stone Roses spent most of the early 90s in a bitter and convoluted legal fight with their management and took what, 6 or 7 years to put out a follow-up to their debut only for every critic to shit all over it.
>>63954139
>The Stone Roses
>GnR
>>63953921
True. This divide in rock was apparent. Grunge obviously focused only on young generation.
>>63953529
Illusion was such a massive letdown for fans especially after waiting four years for another full length LP. About three good songs across a mountain of filler.
And then he survived and triumphed through the transition into the 00s, and then he survived and triumphed through the transition into the 2010s.
Same goes for The Fall.
>>63953416
>>63953761
Remembered more:
Bon Jovi
AC/DC
>>63954299
>artists that were always shit continued to be shit throughout multiple decades
big whoop
Melvins probably did the best as did some most 80s Black Metal bands.
Fu Manchu as well.
>>63949652
Yo La Tengo is one of the best examples
>>63954251
Since I assume you're not from an English-speaking country...
No, I didn't say the age of the fans, I said the type of fans. There were a whole lot of white trash knuckle-draggers who worshiped GNR, Motley Crue, LA Guns, and all those guys and who couldn't stand grunge and were mad that grunge was all that was playing on MTV by 1993. Most of the grungefags you see were manicured lawn suburb kids.
So that's how Pantera got big; they appealed to the white trash who didn't like Pearl Jam.
>>63954414
Kurt Cobain's loathing of white trash meatheads is well-known probably because he got beaten up by them in school. :^)
>>63954414
Oldfag guy here. Yes I do remember MTV in 94 being nothing but Stone Temple Pilots, Bush, Smashing Pumpkins, Hole, and Korn and wondering why music was so whiny and not fun anymore.
>>63949829
>>63949845
right, RIP was 90s. but countdown and cryptic writings were both 90s, i think. risk was early 2000s maybe? basically RIP was their last genuinely good album.
countdown was "good" but it's not waht i'm looking for in megadeth, same goes for black album, load et al
>>63954694
Risk was 1999 and yes Megadeth were totally irrelevant by that time and I never remember anyone talking about them back then or seeing any of their videos on TV.
>>63954744
they debuted crush 'em on a wrestling show and got booed.
>>63954694
>countdown was "good" but it's not waht i'm looking for in megadeth
Sounds a little too much like grunge and not enough like metal I take it?
>>63952178
Probably one of the best examples of this. All three of their 90s albums are thought to be some of their best.
>>63954846
Just look at OP pic. Dave and friends jumped on the alternative bandwagon hard back then.
>>63954913
>>63954846
Yeh Countdown and Youthanasia do seem a lot more Soundgarden and less Iron Maiden. While this was a sound creative move to stay current, it did turn off the core metal audience.
As I said above, Pantera were far more successful at merging metal and alternative rock than Megadeth.
These motherfuckers. Used to shitty thrash in the 80s, the nineties turned into (arguably) the best prog metal band ever. Not only they survived, they got way better.
>>63955061
Also, Iron Maiden were pretty cool in the nineties.
>>63955101
Too bad only Yuropoors knew about those albums.
>>63954353
Fuck off, pleb. Nick Cave is amazing.
he never really got popular until the 90's anyway
>>63956306
I thought Viva Hate was a hit? The Smiths were massive so there was a lot of hype surrounding Morrissey going solo.
Andrew Wood
>>63956127
Americans don't know any Maiden outside the 82-84 period.
>>63951412
Pump is probably the most rocking and least poppy of their post-85 stuff.
RHCP
RHCP
Depeche Mode
>>63954353
>>63955017
Actually Countdown sounds a lot more like TBA than anything.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5jvUXij7nU
I mean, geez, he uses almost the same exact guitar tone as James Hetfield.
>>63958693
Oh well, fair's fair for Metallica making entire albums out of riffs that Dave wrote.
pulp
TFA is so better of a song than The Mechanix it's not even funny.
