ITT: Meme Guitarists
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Anyone who have become revered over time even though they were never that great.
I'll start.
>Jimi Hendrix
Bad start, he was good
>George Harrison
>>63785602
Bad first post, he was good
>Van Halen
>>63785538
If you knew basic music history you wouldn't say that. It doesn't take a genius to see how he transformed guitar playing in the mainstream.
>>63785633
if you don't think push comes to shove has a good solo, guitars just might not be your thing
>>63785633
The only correct answer so far
>>63785633
Eddie Van Halen is good
Show me George Harrison's best playing. Keep in mind Eric Clapton played on My Guitar Gently Weeps
>>63785538
Jimmy Page without a doubt
Frank Zappa
>>63785780
good at riffs, terrible at soloing
>>63785647
This, there have better guitarist is terms of skill, but he is one of the most influencial guitarist ever
>>63785780
Great answer.
>but muh violin bow on the guitar
anyone who thinks he was worth a damn can fuck right off
>>63785694
In defense of harrison his songwriting was pretty good, e.g something, and his fills and solos could be pretty good
what about
>angus "three chords made me famous" young
/thead
>op
>>63785841
Not even the first to use a violin bow.
>>63785896
I'm not saying he's horrible or anything, but he fits the description of overrated and "never really that great"
>>63785683
Van Halen is actually one of my favorites. I don't know, I always see these threads as jokes basically. Post the best guitarists and say that you don't understand how anyone could think there were good.
How can you post seriously in a thread that has Hendrix as a "Meme Guitarist" as its subject ?That's the way I see most boards actually, otherwise I couldn't stand it. Not taking anything seriously in here is healthier than upvotes sites or holier-than-thou forums. It's pretty funny actually, desanctifying everything like that.
>>63786024
fairs
>>63785602
>>63785647
>>63785823
>>63785975
>>63786101
>played guitar upside down
>played with his tongue
>played with his teeth
>literally set his guitar on fire on stage
>not a meme
Not saying he wasn't an influential figure, but come on. Is he really remembered for his playing or his meme antics?
>>63786186
Did Hendrix ever really play with his teeth, or did he just hold it up to his face and fingertap?
>>63786186
back in the pre-internet days, those were known as "defining characteristics", not memes
![7b7fcfae46acb2ac5f368dd077e9e556[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1OvTMyu.jpg "7b7fcfae46acb2ac5f368dd077e9e556[1].jpg")
Joan Jett is the ultimate mediocre guitarist. I enjoy some of her stuff but the people who put her up on a pedestal purely because she has a vagina are insufferable.
>>63786186
>played guitar upside down
I hate this popular misconception. The guitar's neck being upside down was purely cosmetic as an imitation of Albert King (who genuinely did play an upside down guitar).
George Harrison was a subtle player.
Didn't overdo or overplay.
viz. his solo in GOOD MORNING, GOOD MORNING
Santana
>>63786395
that guitar solo was played by paul as was the solo for taxman
lel
>>63786468
Yeah, everyone who doesn't know shit about guitar thinks Santana is a god. He copped his whole early style from Peter Green and is nothing more than a pentatonic wanker now.
Slash definitely takes the cake here. Mediocre band, mediocre pentatonic bullshit...
Think about all the wannabe guitarists you've seen who owned a Les Paul and warmed up before their gigs by playing the Sweet Child O' Mine riff.
Also, Hendrix's importance goes far beyond his 'meme antics' and playing technique. His tone was a huge deal in the 60's, the way he used his entire rig was groundbreaking (think wah pedals, the way he put feedback to a use...). I get that a lot of people think he was nothing more than a mere performer, but those people actually consider technique the only criteria for interesting instrumentists. If that was the case, Malmsteen wouldn't be such a boring act.
Billy "Guitar" Wilson
i'm as against meme guitarrists as the next guy but this kind of discussion always leads to metal babbies mistaking technical prowess with being a good musician
>>63786724
Nailed it.
Joe Satriani
What about the opposite? Great guitarists who were revered in their day but are mostly forgotten nowadays.
Pic related.
Johnny "I ripped off all my power chords from Pete Townsend" Ramone.
>>63786480
oof.. I feel winded now.
Paul must have rated him enough anyway to say "Here's me mate George." to Lennon.
>>63786823
This guy created the sound of every indie pop band
Basically ever single "musician" in the Beatles was a hack and only got famous because of meme magic.
Jimi Hendix probably didn't even know how to tune his damn guitar, he just played noise and it was cool and new so people love him.
Jimmy Page was really good at riffs, but his solos were pretty meh. Always the same pentatonics over and over.
Andres Segovia was overated.
Julian Bream has God level tone
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukQnRDTgcuI
>>63785602
>>63785538
>>63785780
>/mu/
I love how adorably stupid and uneducated this board is
>>63786468
lol this Santana hasn't played a different solo in years
>>63785957
Incredible guitarist, technical ability wise. Horrible song writer.
No one is denying he can play the hell out of the guitar though, you'd have to be stupid to actually think that
Oh man, I thought /mu/ wasn't pleb enough to think Hendrix was bad. Fuck you underage memers.
>>63785804
>Terrible at soloing
Wut
https://youtu.be/nsmY0tFJEIE
>>63787005
its the nature of music he plays, blues pretty much equals playing those same scales, though I admit there are more interesting ways of doing it, still its like complaining about the one of those chillwave or retrowave guys because they use those synths and that kind of melodies, its integral to the style of music
>>63785841
Jimmy page through his massively extensive career has shaped modern day guitarists roles in bands.
This why everyone hates /mu/
Elvis Costello. I mean, what's so great about him? Same goes for Curt Cobain. And while we're talking about mediocre guitar players, what so great about Slash, Paul Stanley or Ace Frehley? Nothing, that's what. And the same goes for D. Boon and East Bay Ray. Fuck all of 'em. And Carl Wilson, too.
>This entire thread.
/mu/ will always be endless entertainment. Bunch of angry elitists discrediting some of the best musicians of the 20th century while not even playing an instrument themselves. I love you guys, I can always get a laugh here
>>63786268
retard
>>63787184
>people rave about the guitarists from KISS
literally no one does this. If people around you do, you need to move.
>>63786268
>I hate this popular misconception.
you're an idiot :o)
Personally, I like unique guitarists more than technically good guitarists.
SHAWN LANE
>>63787259
you are so unique you deserve a trophy for holding this completely non pedestrian opinion :o)
>>63787189
That's just plain ignorant though.
>>63787282
Take it back right this fucking instant!! You fucking shitter
>>63785924
Agree
>>63787237
The picture you posted amply proves my point you jackass. Look at the strings.
>>63787189
He was too good for GnR.
>>63787370
the guitar itself is upside down though. it being restrung does not change that. everyone knows it was restrung. you aren't special.
>>63787351
no one remembers KISS for anything other than glitter, painted faces, and cheap marketing on everything.
all of this makes them a meme and makes you a colossal retard.
>>63787370
the strings were in the right order but the guitar was upside down, you dense fuck
>>63787312
Wank isn't really pleasing, I want to hear good riffs, good songwriting, and experimental playing.
>>63787360
get you back is the best track on powers of ten
>>63787416
you and nobody else compadre. you are the only person who finds interesting things interesting :O)
>>63787409
Sorry, man. I was supposed to reply to the one you replied to. My bad.
>>63787370
>>63787394
Liz Cotten played legit upside down
>>63787446
who?
>>63787446
>>63787499
sorry i meant to type: who cares?
>>63787444
it's all good m8. I have also observed the digits in your post number.
Alright niggers, since none of you actually play guitar, let me break it down for you.
Jimi Hendrix wasn't that great, technically. Nigga couldn't play in tune half the time. What he was was innovative. He did stuff that no one was doing at the time and people are still doing it today. Greatest guitarist ever? No. Greatest innovator? Probably.
Jimmy Page played the same scales and solos in all his songs. The pentatonic minor scales. What made him so special is the songs. Led Zeppelin just made some damn good songs, songs that are instantly recognizable and still played and listened to today. For that reason he's so famous and considered so good. The fact that he's basically done fuck all since LZ ended tells you that.
Angus Young wasn't good. He just wasn't. He played the same few power chords, piss easy solos, and simple riffs. But that's what fit the music and made them popular. He's remembered for writing these iconic songs, not for actual playing ability.
Kurt Cobain probably couldn't even tune his damn guitar. He really only got famous for his death and has achieved legend status posthumously like so often happens. There was nothing even remotely good about him as a guitarist.
All the people in the Beatles were mediocre as fuck at their instruments. They wrote stupid simple songs for the masses, and the masses ate that shit right up. It made them rich, they did drugs, and they wrote more stupid songs while they were on drugs. Rinse and repeat.
>>63786823
Hardly ever gets a mention anymore. East-West still kills.
>>63787220
This so much this
>>63787446
So does Eric Gales, and he's a fucking great guitarist
>>63785538
Buckethead.
>>63787547
Fuck off, you pedantic fuck.
Zack Wylde clearly is skilled but i think his solos lack imagination. He overated
>>63787547
is that a benis on that grill
>>63786186
people in his era used to speculate that he was a gimmick so youre not being original, your just being a fag
>>63787614
Nope. Just a nice puffy vagina.
>>63787547
how does it feel writing a novel that no one will read?
>>63787627
>implying i'm doing it for originality's sake
>>63787547
how does it feel writing a novel that contains false information.
>>63787741
That means fuck all. People are paid to right reviews like for a band
>>63785538
Eddie Hazel
>>63787547
Lmao you don't know shit
The Beatles' stuff is full of little details like odd chord changes, and they're way more iconic than fucking AC/DC. The fact you praise the latter and not the former is just ignorant.
Plus, Cobain could make some great anti-solos, and was a melodic genius. Nirvana always had a unique sound because of him.
Johnny Greenwood
Dude probably can't even tap or do pinch harmonics
>>63787903
Weak b8 man
>>63787259
I mean bad example because he's a freak guitarist, but this why I love Tom Morello. No one plays the guitar like Morello.
>>63786268
>Joan will never be mean to you and then fuck you because she feels bad
>>63787724
so then who or what are you doing it for?
>implying you have any goal at all
>>63787944
I liken him to Mike Einziger in a way
>>63787220
I am in agreement
>>63787547
Motherfuckers judging Hendrix haven´t listened to Electric Ladyland in it´s entirety or at least songs like 1983. The guy was a genius anywhere you look at it live, studio or as a psychedelic rock composer.
>>63787220
>implying Hendrix is a musician
>>63787547
See my original point /mu/friend
>>63787220
I bet you think Tom Morello should be a DJ not a guitarist.
>>63788052
You're a musician for opening your mouth anon. There is no defining feature for a musician.
But going beyond literary reasoning. You don't need to know theory to be a "musician". If that was true the Beatles weren't musicians either.
>>63788132
you're getting memed
>since none of you actually play guitar, let me break it down for you.
>thinks he's got some special unique insight.
I shouldn't laugh since you're probably 15 years old.
If you aren't though then you're embarrassing
>>63788176
25 actually
>>63788196
haha wow
>>63788196
>>63785602
>Not realising the solo on Something is GOAT
:/
>>63787780
>browses /mu/
>not knowing Scaruffi
>>63785694
Solo on Something is one of the most melodic solos ever family
https://youtu.be/U0jk3bFeSUY?t=1m41s
>>63787944
What makes a good guitarist is that they have their own style which is instantly recognizable.
>>63788461
Hence why this entire thread is hilarious.
Anons bagging all these great guitarists that are undisputed as the best of the 20th century.
>>63788693
I'm sure most of them don't even play guitar, but then again I'm not bothered by what self-important anons think.
>>63788693
It has always been like that though.
>>63788733
>>63788734
Used to get worked up and try and explain how retarded they are, now I just watch the train wreck. Makes for some good chuckles.
Never let /mu/tards get to you.
>>63787551
my nigga bloomfield is the goat
I'm a meme guitarist. My friends and other people think I'm great where in reality, I am pure shit.
>>63785538
>>63785633
>>63789358
Why do you stay here man? I'm very close to giving this board up completely and I've only been here a month. Almost no one here knows what they're talking about, they're all extremely opinionated on the things that they don't understand and to top it all off, it is blatantly flooded with underage kids.
This board is remarkably shitty. I honestly can't tell if it's satire or sincere.
>>63789511
Because occasionally there's a good thread or two. Or people asking for musical advice, which I'm happy to give. Same thing though came here a couple of months ago. Browse occasionally and usually get a good laugh outta threads like these.
But yes, in terms of actual musical discussion /mu/ is trash tier. But most music forums are.
>>63789944
Honesty /mu/ is the best music forum I know of. Anyone know any other places?
>>63786823
Paco de Lucia
>>63790017
Is there a way to make a subreddit without a points system for comments? That would be ideal.
>>63789511
see >>63786101
I only come here out of boredom but it's never to have interesting conversation. Like that other anon says, I'm happy to give recommendations and once in a while you'll see people shitting on a band which you'll end up liking a lot. Definitely not a place spending your days in though, the stupidity gets old after a while.
>>63786186
>being left handed is a meme
>>63786186
Have you listened to blues and rock music before Hendrix came along? He basically invented virtuoso rock guitar without even being that virtuoso. He impressed people with an actual grounding in classical guitar like Robert Fripp (Yngwie Malmsteen couldn't touch most professional classically trained guitarists on acoustic, of which there are tens of thousands)
>>63785924
He has a pretty decent grounding in guitar despite his simplistic songs.
>>63786965
B8, B8, B8.
If you ever played or studied any of Hendrix's shit you would know he's a respectable musician at the very least. Dude knew how to play the pentatonic scale, multiple positions, in octaves, could transition between major and minor with ease. That's more than a lot of classic rock guitarists could do and especially more than the self-taught /mu/guitarbabbies could.
>>63787547
I was on board until you bashed the Beatles songwriting. I mean c'mon.
>>63790017
Reddits music forums are shit, tab sites are shit, 4chan is shit but most active.
There's not much to choose from, from what I know. Would love to know of a good forums site.
>>63790234
playing guitar left handed is not a meme
being left handed and played a right handed guitar for the "look how cool" factor is definitely a meme
>>63790258
not questioning his influence on music, just questioning his meme status.
>>63787220
this tee bee eich
>>63790731
Hendrix made the strat a best-seller. Left-handed guitars weren't readily available.
>>63787547
you are a fucking retarded waste of space. if bait 8.5/10
>>63787021
>Horrible song writer
I'd disagree, his output up until the early-mid '90s was good, melodic Rainbow-esque D&D metal.
>>63790879
>be a headlining act across the nation
>can't get a left-handed guitar because it's not readily available
HMMMMMMMMM
>>63791025
>why not change the way I play AFTER I'm successful
you're fucking stupid
>>63785538
Clapton. I love Clapton but come one he's not THAT great.
Albert King is another, any shred guitarist, and guitar players who are nothing special but just so happened to be in a great band or famous for other musical abilities... like Kurt Cobain or Robbie Robertson
>>63785694
Marwa Blues
>>63790926
70-80% of his Pikes albums have been straight garbage. Just noise wankage.
The rest though have been some of the GOAT instrumental music though
>>63791104
He had a very different style of playing at the time. But again, I don't expect /mu/ to understand musical integrity.
>>63786630
Yeah that's not a bad pick
>>63787551
Albert's Shuffle with Al Kooper is GOAT of all time blues soloing
>>63789511
bear with these goofy fucks. stay here long enough and you will be exposed to music at the fastest rate you have in your life
>>63791237
Who? I named several guitarists here...
If you mean Clapton I don't think he sounds too much different from Bloomfield, Freddie King, or B.B... I find his playing to be a combination of other people's licks.
>>63785602
Harrison was great at slide guitar
>>63785804
>
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=yYolTI-1nqA
>>63785538
He wasn't a technical player. His sound was what was revolutionary. Heavy distortion with feedback at the time blew people away.
>>63791421
This. Gary Moore went on record saying that he thought Harrison was the best white slide player of all time and that it was travesty he didn't get more recognized for it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdw4gdYSJu4
>>63785538
Keith Richards is the ultimate meme guitarist
if you're judging a guitarist strictly on their solos, you're fucking stupid. there are so many more things that go into into being a great guitar player and that just gives you such a limited picture.
>>63785538
dude echo lmao
>>63785538
2pac
>>63791835
The Edge is a master of the effects pedal though. He can't shred for shit, but his minimalist approach to sound design is highly influential.
>>63791887
>he has no technical ability
>he needs to cover up his shitty playing with effects pedals
>good guitarist
>>63791927
He creates interesting soundscapes. I'd rather have that then some prog metal fretboard wankery.
>>63791025
>>63790731
you are dumb as fuck, holy shit.
>>63792026
This. I rather listen to Johnny Ramone then some stupid Dream Theater melo shit.
>>63792026
He doesn't really create interesting soundscapes.
I get his approach and can name a handful of guitarists who do it well, I just don't think he does.
Holy fuck, how contrary!
Electronic Music: A Listener's Guide (1973) lists Hendrix as recommended listening. It's the only rock music mentioned in there apart from Sgt. Pepper.
>>63791835
>>63791887
There we go, that's better. The edge is overrated as a guitarist. Overrated is a strong word though, he's not usually rated. Sure he mix's pedals for a very unique sound, but there's much much more to guitar than tone.
Might as well line him up with the guitar techs, not guitarists. It was an insult to guitarists everywhere putting him it might get loud. You could see in it whenever the guys would jam, Jimmy page and Jack White were glaring at him, just like entire audience.
Imagine if Tom Morello was in it instead.
>>63785793
The only real answer in this thread.
>>63791887
>>63792026
Every U2 song literally sounds the same you faggot. Just play two notes over a delay.
>>63786238
Miscommunication. He played with the pick in his teeth. Which is still incredibly difficult. Also, Jimi showed Eric Clapton up on stage playing a song that Eric thought was hard whilst playing with his teeth and having sex with the guitar he was playing. I'm pretty sure that's when Eric was in the Yard birds, there's a clip from a documentary somewhere.
>>63791388
That's what everyone's playing is after the person that invented the style plays. He loved B.B. King. I play blues lead, so, I pull from Jack White, Robert Johnson, Clapton, King and it sounds like a mish-mash of those that I made into my own thing.
A true meme guitarist
>>63791835
This >>63791887. You joke, but he made that delay pedal his bitch and he was the only player to make that kind of use of delay, echo and harmonics to get a floaty sound.
this thread is so embarrassing, holy shit
it's nothing but >lol bro, he can't even SHRED xD
>>63792718
If you can't play more than barre chords and simple pentatonic scales, you're not worth shit as a guitarist.
>>63792277
Frank Zappa is a freak on the guitar. Seriously?
>>63792657
Maybe if I heard him in his day he would have sounded more original and I simply lack context but to me he really doesn't sound as unique as Duane Allman, B.B. King, Buddy Guy, Freddie King, Derek Trucks or even SRV
>>63792380
Jeff was always the better guitarist anyway. Kerry got all the attention, while Jeff chilled in the back and wrote the good songs
>>63792759
Basically this.
There's a million guitarists playing the same simple shit over and over and everyone rides their nuts for it, and some get really famous doing it. But it doesn't mean they're actually decent guitarists.
>>63785793
>>63787189
always go full technical
Wtf have you never head A Day In The Life ? Best piece of music ever recorded
The Beatles didn't just write pop songs. They literally influenced almost every modern act following Sgt. pepper. Yeah the songs were simple but no one else was doing it like they were. No one else was writing those melodies or had those arrangements. Fuck tracing their Musial influence would be like tracing Ghengis Khan's lineage to today
>>63794700
Doesn't mean they were any good to listen to. Listening to the Beatles is like getting teeth pulled
>>63794809
Good one, anon.
>>63794700
>Implying the influence was for the better
>Implying they weren't just a commercially viable act
Those songs and melodies were radio friendly and could be sold to anyone
>>63785538
I think he's a little overrated, since he died young. But if you go listen to songs like Machine Gun, you will see that he was a great guitar player. Had an interesting technique that influenced others around him. I don't necessarily agree with this, but I know people that consider him the father of metal music (not that he played metal, but his style and guitar tone directly led to metal music.)
>Tom Morello
He's not horrible, but guitar hero fags used to hype him up far too often. Too many wacky pedal effects, not enough substance for me.
>>63786630
Fucking Slash. That's usually the first one that comes my mind, when talking about overrated guitarists.
>>63786991
>They're acclaimed so they must be good
What's so great about Greg Ginn, or The Great Kat?
he's mostly famous because he learned to play the guitar upside down
>>63792165
I respect your opinion, but I don't understand it at all. I'm the exact opposite. I could listen to Dream Theater all day (even though it's melodramatic and over the top), but I get sick of The Ramones simple music after a couple of songs. That's life, I guess.
>>63796066
epic dude
>>63795942
stage anxiety and being next to Axl Rose didn't do the guy well
>>63785538
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jP2EvSNHqh0
>>63786186
This is why I hate the word meme. You fuckwits use it as if that's some kind of legitimate criticism or argument. It's such a fucking terrible word.
>>63787220
BASED
this thread is a fucking trainwreck. worst opinions of all time
>>63785924
three chords don't make a meme
>>63797305
No, but four chords can.
>>63792277
couldnt be more wronger
>>63795877
And here we have someone who knows nothing about Tom Morello.
>>63795991
There's a reason they're acclaimed anon. And it's not because they were in popular groups.
If you can't understand why I say that, don't bother responding.
>>63787021
This is true, but songwriting is a pretty important part of playing an instrument. If you can't put all your technical mastery together to write a decent song, you're not much of a guitarist.
>>63785538
man jimi jam was the biggest innovator of the electric guitar by far. If you actually listen to him, his control of the guitars sound is fucking insanity. To this day no one can match him.
>>63787547
Is this a pasta you saved because of how fucking retarded it is?
