how does it feel that this guy is the guy and Chief Keef are as big for the younger generation as Lil Wayne was for kids in 2003-2008
They keep coming out with the shit kids want to hear
also, why do normies have to shit on thugger so much, every dude I know who thinks they're "real" or a hip hop head can't listen to one song that isn't "we wuz kangs" shit so they can make them feel intelligent, read a fucking book faggot fuckin confederacy of dunces and shit
>>63700955
they can't match the bars of lil wayne though
also lel, fuck those people
>>63700955
Why do people like this dumb nigger so much.
thuggers whack
>>63700955
Because hip hop is a culture deeper than what is written. Thugger and all of the other "trap" artists are trying to portray giant fuck u towards old world hip hop. I'm kinda neutral on this topic though....
>>63701552
do you honestly believe they're trying to portray anything deep at all?
they're talentless idiots who rap about drugs and guns and have literally no depth to anything they've ever "created"
I miss the days when Lil Wayne was good :c
feelsgoodman
also, young thug is pushing the boundaries of hip hop, so i am okay with this.
>>63701606
You go do it then.
>>63701606
http://youtu.be/Bq6IsU390E0
>>63701619
since when is that a valid argument, lol
because you totally have to be an artist to be an art critic or a director to be a film critic, right? so i guess i have to be a shitty rapper to be a shitty rapper critic?
fuck off with that bullshit attitude.
I like how you get called a backpacker or an uncle tom if you dont enjoy ignorant shit
>>63701635
i'm not watching that whole fucking thing lol. link a specific part or get the fuck out of here
>>63701636
So let me guess.. You can't rap.
>>63701646
It's horrible I know.
>>63701650
Which makes him perfectly qualified to critique Young Thug and Future lmao
>>63701636
lmao, i bet you can't even THINK up a song as good as a young thug song, nevermind making one
>>63701650
i never said i could, fool.
you don't have to be able to rap to realize when someone else can't.
so like if a airplane pilot crashes his shit, i can't say he was a horrible pilot just because i don't know how to fly a plane? like fuck, of course i don't know how to fly a plane but clearly neither did that motherfucker
Young Thug's abysmal sales say that he's more internet meme than superstar
>>63701636
i mean if you dont like young thug, its pretty evident you cant rap, and youre probably lame and corny in general, or else youd recognize what he does as great and enjoyable.
>>63701686
this is the damage control of a 13 year old, how fucking sad that nobody can provide a reasonable defense for these fake talentless personalities that cant rap or sing
All it is art. Not everybody wants to tweak your brain out on harsh noise lol. Why do people attack art? It's fucking pointless. Somebody fucking likes it.
>>63701695
I understand your point but c'mon there's a lot of reasons to not enjoy his music
>>63701686
>>63701650
>>63701695
Is this really the only defense you have of these artists? That's honestly sad. Give the dude some legitimate reasons why those rappers are good instead of trying to shift the focus. It's childish as fuck.
If all you guys can come up with is "yeah well I bet you (some random dude on the internet) couldn't do it", then that is a pretty fucking sad testimony for their work.
>>63701702
Fucker that wasn't me
>>63701711
These literal underages can like it somewhere else. Dont come to a fucking imageboard about music and cry that not everyone likes the music, LMAO
>>63701715
theyre good because we like them, and you dont because youre a weak minded fool. lol idiot. have fun being on the losing side of history i guess.
>>63701711
>>63701715
Also, this is my defense asshole.
Enjoy having no bitches
>>63701737
Its funny because his name is Future and nobody will remember him in 5 years LOL
>>63701715
yt makes great songs dude i don't know what you're on
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz6OUIjtM6E
took me a couple of listens to get, but it's great af. and it's different. not everything has to be a 'we wuz kangs' 'çonscious' song
>>63701761
Nobody is saying it has to be one or the other but you
>>63701752
Hahaha. No. Who will we remember wise guy.
>>63701713
if there was an instrument that sounded like his voice I think it would still be as catchy
if you took away the name young thug and put some band name on it, it would probably be considered groundbreaking if not
it's just all the extra shit is why people don't like the music; his tattoos, his gayness, dance moves, lyrics,interviews, instagram
if you took that away I guarantee you it would go world wide
>>63701737
damn, you sold me. those are some solid points. how could i have possibly been so blind
you fuckers defend these shit rappers to your grave but none of you can give me even one good reason as to why i'm wrong in saying they're talentless.
no examples of substantial lyrics, no examples of new or innovative music, no examples of how they've influenced anything but more of the same shit, no nothing.
>>63701761
only person in this whole thread who's supplied anything, but honestly all i hear is the same exact sort of flow that's in all cloud rap, and the same lyric focus. this is nothing new in the game at all. sorry man, but it's not different at all. but if you like it, don't let me change your mind.
>>63701779
Good writers with bars.
Look, hip hop has a really low barrier of entry, and its heavily fueled by short trends and phases because of its popularity. This is just another fad. You're allowed to like it but its about as relevant to hip hop as Iggy Azalea.
I wonder how long Thugger will be relevant. Just look at the people that sounded fresh and were popular a few years ago. Chief Keef, Migos, 2Chainz. They all are pretty irrelevant now. I wonder if the same thing will happen to Thug or if he actually will last for long. I mean Future seems like a dude who will stay relevant for a long time.
>>63701828
Thug might not but his influence will, just look at Post Malone, already the jews are trying to move in to the popularity of this heavily produced mumbling style and it's getting a shit load of buzz with just 1 song
>>63701811
I think his vocals and beat are way different from whatever else trap/cloudrap there is. Or if it is similar, then it either came before it or it's way better done
this also a good song if you feel like listening https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wgVW8E0wU8
>>63701774
never said that either, please into reading
>>63701859
>not everything has to be a 'we wuz kangs' 'çonscious' song
Its exactly what you said cunt
>>63701811
you're treating music objectively through a very specific lens
>no examples of new or innovative music
huh?
>no examples of how they've influenced anything but more of the same shit
you're talking about artists that are still very new and are mostly undiscovered by the public
>>63701859
that song is so good.
>>63701879
>not everything has to be a 'we wuz kangs' 'çonscious' song
and what you got from that is 'fuck all 'we wuz kangs rap!!'?
what i meant is you can listen to both without hating the other (like you also said)
and yes there are people who hate on this type of rap because 'muh lyrics' and 'muh meanin'. mainly fun hating types
>>63701884
undiscovered by the public? i'm sorry but are you retarded? dude i work at a costco in the heart of the south with all white people and like half the people there won't shut the fuck up about future or fetty or thug. that's about as public as it gets for rap.
>>63701899
Of course you can, thats irrelevant
>If you dont agree with me then you hate fun
Back to /v/
>>63701924
You just proved his point.
>>63701932
it's fun and has a good af hook??
post what you listen to (not to hate on you of course)
Thugger will never compare to Wayne at his peak.
>>63701890
>>63701859
I'm seriously confused. Are you guys for real? You actually think that sounds good? I'm not even trying to be rude or anything here... what on earth is the appeal of that? At all?
>>63701932
Art is subjective.
>>63701935
>that's irrelevant
then why did you reply to me fag
>If you dont agree with me then you hate fun
seriously try to into reading
>>63701950
maybe you were just born in the wrong generation.
>>63700955
its a very specific brand of hip hop anon some people arent into that
milo is what i recommend to hip hop heads who like verbosity and intellectual lyrics, although there is plenty of intellect to rhythm, melody, and phrasing in itself
>>63701955
You're just awful at communication and listening to music t b h
>>63701983
i guess we share a trait (or traits)
>>63701972
lel
>>63701945
barter 6 is stronger than any of wayne's records even if i do believe lil wayne is a better "rapper" technically he's not a better musician and by quite the margin if you include sound production
>>63701972
So if I don't understand the appeal of one specific subgenre of hip hop suddenly I'm a defener? lol
>>63701945
this was never a comparison of ability, just popularity, and similar to how Lil Wayne was popular with youth in the 2000s, trap artists are popular, probably more popular with a bigger population of young people than Kendrick or Drake
>>63702006
Drake and justin beiber shit on thug as far as popularity bud
according to your logic you should be hailing JB pretty boy faggot
>>63701953
"art" lol
>I just fucked your bitch in some Gucci flip flops/
I just had some bitches and I made 'em lip lock/
I just took a piss and I seen codeine coming out
beautiful art, that is
>>63702003
Plot twist; neither of them are musicians.
>>63702025
>posts future's lyrics to dissent young thug
dumb or nigger?
>>63702019
I'm talking about the same people (nig nogs) who grew up listening to Lil Wayne, have lil brothas who are now listening to this shit
sorry if that wasn't specified enough for you, or Biebs is the hot thing where you are
>>63702025
Yeah man.
>>63702025
the sound is also included in the song. and yes, that's still art. it might be beautiful for someone
>>63702032
by definition you're wrong so are you just pretending to have won this argument in your head?
>>63701828
His style is already a bit jaded
>>63702036
its not where i am its a global trend of popularity
>>63702047
No.
Making shit rhyme has nothing to do with music, and neither of them work on the production engineering facet of their own music.
In terms of RAPPING
Wayne > Thugger
>>63702036
Lol speak English. You inbred fuck
>>63702057
i miss wayne's bars - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7tOAGY59uQ
>>63702060
>little brothers
my bad, bruv
>>63702056
your talking about something else
>>63702057
young thug sings and works with birdman on the beats
rapping, rhyme, rhythm is musicality
we are talking about music
they are musicians
>>63701606
>do you honestly believe they're trying to portray anything deep at all?
Learn how to read, he didn't even fucking say or imply that.
Jesus christ people don't let this degeneracy fly here
>>63702070
justin beiber is popular worldwide
much more popular as opposed to young thug
and just as you said in this post
>>63702006
>this was never a comparision of ability, just popularity
>>63702072
>young thug sings
...
>and works with birdman on the beats
Source?
>rapping, rhyme, rhythm is musicality
It's not actually, the same way spoken word poetry isn't music. It's a petty/frivolous difference but it is a difference.
Would you mind linking me to a major C rap scale?
>>63702087
popularity in the hip hop community, is it really that hard to understand, I was comparing Thug to Wayne
I wasn't comparing Thug to the biggest selling artist of all time or whatever the fuck JB is
>>63701828
>Migos
>irrelevant
I'm not even going to shit on you for the misuse of the word irrelevant but you literally know nothing shut the fuck up.
Ever heard of the dabb? You know the autistic dance every college, highschool, university student does because it's a cool hot meme. Where politicians and social figureheads do it? Yea that's all from Migos.
Plus Quavo is in everything he's far from "irrelevant"
>>63702087
justin's also been around way longer. soon thug will surpass him
>>63702104
theres plenty of source for that go look it up lazy fuck
by your logic a drummer is not a musician, you're retarded lol
>>63702068
He's so washed out on lean nowadays nobody remembers the reason why he was at the top to begin with.
Bill gates offered thugger 9 mil to stop rapping
“I may not be an avid rap listener, but i sure heard Young Thug’s music and instantly went into depression. I even began to question my existence and why this man was even let 100 feet near a recording studio, he has to go, If he denies my offer, I will offer even more”
>>63702111
no he won't:
>he's black
>he's not as attractive
>he can't sing as well
>he can't dance as well
>he doesn't have as good of a PR team
>he has less money
>he has less hoes
>nigger
>>63702104
Holy shit you literally don't know anything
>>63702087
please don't leave though, I'm willing to come to an understanding of your arguement
>>63702122
>conflating percussive rhythm assembly with making stuff rhyme
>>63702106
Fine then replace JB with drake dumb fuck
you need to reword your argument to set the variables to just that specific sub genre of hip hop if that's what you mean to talk about otherwise i trump your entire argument by mentioning anyone more popular or successful in hip hop
>>63702144
no its more like he's very wrong im very right get buttfucked over the internet loser
>>63702143
Sorry, throwing up your bars to Clams Casino on SoundCloud and getting a couple hundred hits is not the same as being a musician.
>>63702149
What are you even trying to argue here?
Would you consider Acapella singers musicians?
Would you consider acapella rappers musicians?
Both of those answers should be the same
>>63702139
>black
um, Kendrick, Kanye, Wayne?
>hes not as attractive
sexy muthafugger young thugger?
>he can't sing as well
that's all he does and everyone loves him
>he can't dance as well
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zneZd7rcRsw
other stuff is irrelevant
>>63701811
we dont have to defend it. its wildly popular and successful. lol idiot.
>>63702161
Not even the same dude from 2 posts ago but like holy shit. With literally what you just described, yes that's a musician.
Assembling your entire sound qualifies you as a musician
>>63702155
he?
this is me, I double posted.
come on buddy don't go lets talk things out
>>63701646
all you old head rappers need to know about that interview is that he says something really relevant about the younger rap crowd
we don't want to hear real drums samples from old soul records
we want 808s
808s and heartbreak was the boom bap crowd's signifier of rap being dead
for the younger generation it's the most important album and the reason for everything today
>>63702149
rhythm as in speaking on beat, referred to as flow by niggers
look at a rapper like mf doom's flow, the literal sound and pronunciation of every word, there is an auditory focus on his assonance
young thug sings is also a sound argument faggot you can't win here
>>63702175
Buddy I love Thugger but you're delusional if you think he'll surpass Bieber in popularity
>>63702194
can you elaborat?
>>63702197
he can and he will if everything in the business area goes right,
>>63702209
>can you elaborate?
You fucking faggot there's literally a video are you serious right now
>>63702216
but it's long
>>63702163
Acapella pertains to a tonal scale, so you tell me.
>>63702196
>conflating an understanding of timing and music
>>63702163
>>63702196
What's your favorite hip-hop album?
>>63702226
haha you're vapid
i can tell you're drunk or something
is everyone on here british, it would explain everything so far
>>63702236
no just the faggot chav OP
>>63702233
>oh shit he's busting my balls
>HAHAHA YOU'RE JUST DRUNK
I see we've entered full damage control.
>>63702246
I said bruv because I figured I was surrounded by nigels
I had to fit in
>>63702226
implying music needs a tonal scale
i could fart into your slobbering mouth and record it its music
field recordings are music. merzbow is a musician
you're out of your element donny
>>63702250
no you didnt prove anything you are vapid as i said
thats my conclusion
sober up and get a job fag
>>63702265
Merzbow is a sound artist and production engineer. Just because it shares a common medium doesn't mean it continues to be music.
>>63702283
here bud
entertain yourself im bored now
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapping
you were fun but gay and not very smart
>>63702273
>n-NO!
>you're just stupid!
If it's so vapid, why can't you refute it?
>>63702292
>Rapping is distinct form of spoken-word poetry
As I was saying, rapping is lot music the same way that spoken word poetry is not music.
>>63702312
>rapping is lot music
What did he mean by this?
>>63702300
i did refute it you are splitting hairs and vapidly discussing your own shallow views and definitions on music trying to jerrymander an entire valid and legitimate group of artists out of the suitable term of musician by using feeble self pre approved definitions
this isn't an interesting or engaging discussion and im bored, the only thing interesting me here is how sad you are to keep grabbing my leg and begging for daddy to stay
>>63702312
>young thug raps spoken word
this is what drunken neckbeards actually believe
>>63702327
>I've realized I'm wrong
>I'll cling to typos to divert from acknowledging this
It's fine.
>>63702337
>begging for daddy to stay
>pic related
Would you believe me if I told you I was a noise artist and don't accept category of "musician"?
>>63702348
I'm quoting the wiki. See
>>63702292
>>63702368
>>I've realized I'm wrong
>>I'll cling to typos to divert from acknowledging this
>It's fine.
except that's my first post in this conversation lmao fag
>>63702414
>except that's my first post in this conversation lmao fag
>angry shitposting
>>>/v/ is that way, but you're wrong nonetheless. It's clear that we disagree.
>>63702428
so desperate you'll respond to literally any troll, huh bud?
>>63702455
So desperate for your absentee father's affection that you expect the same of others?
>>63701650
Neither can Thugger
>>63702209
the younger crowd, mostly speaking on 14-25, grew up on the end of gangsta rap and mainly had party songs playing (think Chingy and shit)
but when kanye dropped 808s it was the craziest, most emotional thing we had heard
if kanye hadn't dropped that, kid cudi wouldn't have his career (granted kanye literally just ripped cudi's sound like he did travis' sound on yeezus)
and that sound took a year to actually be accepted
i myself didn't like 808s at first but it's a fucking 10/10 for me
for the younger generation that's where rap "started" as in that sound has transitioned to everything current and popular, obviously there are still rappers heavily influenced by 90s rap (j cole, kendrick to name a couple)
but drake's sound was easy to accept because of this
cudi was easy to accept because of this
auto tuned singing about drugs and guns and shit slowly grew on all of us because of 808s
we stopped really caring about words and cared more about the beat being fun + the melodies of the vocals
that's why future has been accepted
personally i can actually understand what he says but it's mostly based off being able to identify words from the melody of the words themselves
808s changed rap for the best to the younger generation
and it ruined rap for the older generation
anyone can argue against this though
it's just my take on the current sound
i'm not even sure if i explained my point to you
lil uzi explains this kinda quickly
ebro and rosenberg bring up that 808s killing rap for the old, and being the best for the young in that interview
>>63702478
are you projecting there, bud?
>>63702630
>Daddy
>are you projecting there, but?
>>63702676
thats exactly it "but", im projecting that im your real daddy, get it little guy?
>>63702630
lol even i felt some radiation burn off of how badly he nuked you then
i think it's hide thread time bro
>>63702692
>assblasted grammar professor this bitter about being BTFO
You were wrong, man. Get over it.
>>63702478
lol what a desperate virgin
>>63702711
treat a man with respect boy
i raised you better than that
Every Thugga thread is horrible.
Every single one of them.
>>63702730
>this many absentee fathers
What has this country come to? It's to MAGA ťbh.
>>63702746
lol lick my shit
>>63702775
who you talking to youngster
you want an ass whoopin' lil man?
>>63701514
but he can sing and makes catchy music consistently
>>63702812
>>63702711
did you get your head repeatedly smacked hard as fuck against concrete
ITT: we learned that
Young Thug= Musician
>Occupation: Singer/Songwriter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Thug
>>63702832
Did you have male authority figure present in your life in your formative years? Seems like an epidemic ITT, and perhaps amongst Thugger fans.
>>63702812
hoh topė loel
>>63702829
keep that mouth shut little fucker ill disown your fucking ass and beat the fuck out of your mother if you say shit to her
>>63702854
i actually have a close relationship with my father he was an indy race car driver, owned his own catering busness after culinary school, then opened his own restaurant
he's retiring soon, but he still works as sous chef in the back of the house. he's working on a book about the kitchen though
oh yeah and he got rich as fuck off the housing market before the crash
what about your pathetic father? did he leave you or was he just a fucking loser in general?
>>63702880
Saved
Did literally anyone read all of this?
>>63702885
my mind is full of gold my friend
>>63702194
Uzi said he raps over 808s and Ebro is so out of touch he thiught uzi meant 808s & heartbreaks lol
>>63702897
even though thats all true my dad is a boss feel free to copy pasta my art
>>63702856
>>63702880
>>63702897
>>63702907
This is reaching previously unknown dimensions of sad cringe. Holy shit.
>>63702903
nah ebro knew what uzi was saying, but him and rosenberg transitioned the conversation to 808s&heartbreak being the major split in the rap community
still find it hilarious that uzi refused to rap over boom baps like a child throwing a fit, and that all the old rappity rap niggas in the comments hate him for that
>>63702854
>>63702880
holy fuck get BTFO..
>>63702930
weak samefag
ITT: we learned that
Young Thug= Musician
>Occupation: Singer/Songwriter
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Thug
>>63702939
Cringe
>>63702948
Quote more than one reply to call samefag, anon.
>>63702965
oh but we both know its you silly
>>63702972
ye. Why else would I be responding?
>>63702980
mr. retard please pay attention
i called you out you were trying to samefag incognito pussy
>>63702999
Where? You realize these are threaded responses, right? >>63702880
>>63702907 and >>63702897 were in response to me. What's the problem?
>>63703031
good work
now post it everywhere my little guy
>>63703031
tell everyone how successful my father is i want everyone to know
>>63703043
>>63703061
>>63702899
;)
>>63702880
>i actually have a close relationship with my father he was an indy race car driver, owned his own catering busness after culinary school, then opened his own restaurant
You are the ultimate normie for listening to any rap OP...
>not listening to the last cocaine superhero
>>63703921
king push was a flop
>>63703949
Shut up dad
>>63700955
Are you implying that lil wayne's music isnt absolute trash....because it definitely is
>>63704821
no it isn't fag. his bars were elite tier
>>63705594
Do you actually have ears or do you just not know what rap is
>>63701702
the defense is that he's making unique and impactful music whether you like it or not. thugga's weird ass autotune flow changed how a lot of these trap rappers look at autotune, and made weezy come back and try to sound like thug even though thug was heavily influenced by wayne himself. if one of the greats comes back and starts biting your style, you know the dude's unique and has an impact. his lyrics are also clever and often hilarious (ima ride in that pussy like a stroller), plus his shit fucking bangs. people who hate on thug must just not like ATL trap rap in the first place or are still terrified of autotune in rap for some damn reason even though its fucking 2016
>>63706111
if you can't recognize wayne's glory age then you're seriously deluded
>>63706395
>even though its fucking 2016
>>63706111
haha look at this fag
"do you just not know what rap is"
suck an assplug
>>63706111
lmao the only good thing about this gayass post is the trips.
>>63706633
>devastated rapfag is full damage control
>>63706111
If Wayne isn't isn't in your top 10 rappers hands down (even better taste would be top 5) then you have literally been hijacked by mainstream perceptions and are an actual sheep. Every opinion you have on rap is worthless because you obviously cannot think for yourself.
In the 90s, we had a ton of hugely influential rappers. Nas, biggie, jay-z, and 2pac all had a huge impact on how rappers rap and even established the parameters by which we judge lots of rap. Wayne singlehandedly served as the equivalent for the next decade. For just about every major contemporary rapper, it's easy to draw a direct line of influence from wayne. Chance, kendrick, drake, future, and thugger are all Waynes children
>how does it feel that this guy is the guy and Chief Keef are as big for the younger generation as Lil Wayne was for kids in 2003-2008
>also, why do normies have to shit on thugger so much
So, what is is? Is he as big as wayne in his prime while simultaneously being "shit on by normies"? How is that even possible?
Fucking moron, shows how smart his dickriders are.
>>63706654
how am I devastated by your shitty meme lol
>>63706807
>how am I devastated lol
>I'm not devastated
>lol
>your meme is shit
>>63706832
...I'll devastate your asshole you naughty faggot
>i seek for meaning in songs
jesus christ
>>63702025
That was beautiful anon
>>63702068
this is lil wayne past his prime tho
>>63706915
If you mean years, then okay, but this is one of his best (for me)
