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Will Fantano review Interview 2016?
Will Bottomless Pit sound like Interview 2016?
Is Interview 2016 Bottomless Pit and we don't even know it?
Will the cringe ever end?
hi jackson?
>He doesn't think that GP was the pinnacle of Death Grip's discography
The Money Store >>> the rest
why is the production on hot head & interview so barebones
hope they're just rough demos
>>63294648
Literally the most pleb opinion one can have
I'm digging The I.L.Y's album.
Interesting microphone choice for the interview. Reminds me of the album cover
>>63294572
Probably the most accurate theory yet.
>no thumbnail for HotHead
>nothing at all linking it to BP
>Karen Black
>Interview
>exitmask.com
None of it makes any sense
What's your take on Interview?
Do you like it? What's it's purpose?
>>63294799
It was a very interesting 30 minutes of my life. I don't get it.
what was he thinking?
>>63295094
he can't wait to get home and play Nintendo 64
>>63294484
>>63294514
>>63294799
>>63294572
>yfw "Death Grips Interview 2016" is the track title and it's 22 minutes long
still can't stop laughing at this new video. They set up a performance, an interview and a faux press conference for no apparent reason and hired some celebrity interviewer to do it. I don't understand but it's genius
the press conference bit is especially hilarious.
We should vocaroo a dub of this entire video. Just write in the questions and answers ourselves.
Zach looks so harmless and nice. I wanna hug him
>>63294737
Exit mask was confirmed fake...
>>63294514
does notm sound like fashion week?
>>63295929
no?
>>63295220
tfw interview is actually bottomless pit in its entirety
>>63294484
so...one of the song is the darko drum 12 thing?
>>63295094
>That part where he walks away from his station and realizes he walked into the shot and turns back around
>25:13
is he saying
>idunno, like 4 more months
>>63296072
yehh
>This is the best thing that has come out 2016 and it's nothing
Is anyone else even trying anymore?
>>63296627
They really arnt DG is the most original thing to Come out of music since I dont know when this isn't even bait. Just my opinion. I wish another artist would blow my mind the way DG has.
>>63296650
I honestly enjoyed the music on this video more than anything that has come out this year
I really love the 2nd track, with that somber organ sound. The others aren't really doing much for me right now.
>>63295972
he looks a bit like varg here, on thumbnail at least
>>63296666
nice
hyped
feels pretty good to see fantano getting btfo in the comments section
>>63296666
quads confirm
the track that starts at 5:25 is seriously the best
jenny death > no love deep web > the money store > exmilitary > niggas on the moon > govt plates
>>63297656
but govt plates is still atleast a light 7, fuck fantano
>>63297656
>ex military better than NOTM
>>63297656
>govt plates at the bottom
>>63294625
This.
>>63294648
pleb
2nd track + come up and get me
https://soundcloud.com/vkksll/come-down-and-get-me-in-the-bottomless-pit
>>63295828
>>63295828
>>63295828
Make this happen please>>63295828
>>63297656
>NOTM that low
wew
>>63294484
SELF INFLICTED
>>63297656
>NOTM not top
r/mytasteissuperior
>>63296794
>"no"
>>63295220
>>63294625
>>63297930
>He thinks that GP was the pinnacle of Death Grip's discography
What if its a song in bottemless pit. We get a 20 minute song included! That would be nice
did we or leddit find a lip reader yet?
>>63299731
No, because that would be a terrible 20 minutes song. It's all over the place.
My bet is that it's just a bunch of short instrumental clips from DAW project data that ended up becoming full songs on Bottomless pit.
We're probably going to hear the full versions of all those tunes with vocals
>>63299908
its just another deconstruction, the mute interview is dg in a nutshell. also the video is done by the smae guy who did black google.
I really want to hear the soothing sounds of Andy's voice and let it lull me to sleep
Quiz:
What is the name of the alleyway behind the home Stefen lived / lives in in Sacramento?
If you think jenny death is mediocre you need to listen to it louder
>>63295914
True, but the website was linked on thirdworlds so it counts. It's part of this "thing"
>>63302260
>but the website was linked on thirdworlds
Oh was it?
>This guy walks in the bar, slaps your gf on the ass and says "I hover above you"
What do?
>>63294658
deal with it
>>63302313
it wasn't he's just a fucking pleb
>>63302313
Yeah, it showed up as a skull at the bottom of the page that would only show up on every other visit. There was this whole meme going that only the chosen ones could see it.
>>63298245
Holy shit anon, it is Come Up And Get Me. It's fantastic
>>63297395
That's meme hate
>>63302421
lmfao i hope you're either rusing and don't actually believe that
>>63302420
I knew about it, you didnt. Who's the bigger pleb here?
>>63302479
you
>>63297395
>gives almost all of their releases a very high score
>fans tell him to fuck off
>>63295849
its all fake you know that right? that' not an interview, is just an instrumental from the new album
Made a cover if anyone need...
>>63302974
nice cover, bro
>>63302974
Nice one mango
https://soundcloud.com/troppsal/death-grips-all-in-one
every DG song in one
each song=unique band-pass frequency
>>63303237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu0R96OZy6w
>>63303111
even with your trips you're not man enough to uncensor the mighty dong of zach hill
>>63294658
>RAW NO FUCKIN' FILTER
Pretty sure a cleaned up version will be on the album for sure.
>>63298952
Did death grips kill him?
Wasn't the OS X startup sound used in the first track of the interview video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ1mpI01evk
>>63302347
why the fuck would he be wearing a dashiki and those glasses, that has to be his dad
i stopped listening after no love deep web and seeing them live
whats happened since then
>>63303715
Probably
So....what do you guys think of this? Fake or legit?
>>63297656
Are you fucking stupid.
NOTM = NLDW > GP > TMS > ExM = JD > DGEP > FW
Kill yourself you brainless fucking moron.
>>63303789
i think ride is trolling us
>>63303789
>that twitter name
its fake you faggot
What's up with Zach's allusions to Christ? Carrying the speaker (cross) in the No Love video and wearing the towel (shroud) in Interview 2016
SELF INFLICTED
WHAT'D YOU TELL EM?
I JUST TOLD EM
HELLS EXISTENCE
>>63294484
he looks like tom from the blacklist
>>63302421
That wasn't real.... The skull was photoshopped in
Death Grips essentially just released an ep without having music press and people in general freak out about it, since its a part of a fake interview video. Its a pretty damn good ep too.
your guyses taste is so horrible jesus christ
NOTM>GP>JD>NLDW>TMS>ExM
>>63304204
the bit starting at 5:22 is incredible. Really hope we hear more stuff like that on BP
>>63297656
>NotM and Gov Plates on the bottom
That's literally all that matters. Everything else is interchangeable.
>>63304601
>>63297656
do you guys even like music? Or do you just listen to DG for the memes
>>63304560
boom
>>63302974
Good, except they never put their faces on their music.
Get a pic of the interviewer.
i still consider listening dg and david dowie not ironically as kind of retardiness
>>63304560
TMS=NOTM=NLDW>ExM>JD>GP
you cant deny that tms, notm and nldw are their pinnacles
>people thinking TMS is better ex-m
kysf
>>63305033
Pretty cool, but it doesn't match the death grips aesthetic.
>>63305105
>people think nldw is the worst
smhtbqhf
Jenny Death > The Money Store > Niggas on the Moon = Government Plates > ExMil > NLDW
>people think anyone cares about their rankings
rofl
>>63305243
this post is just a lie
>>63305153
a e s t h e t ic
>>63304115
>towel on head
>somehow alluding to christ
fuck you're actually thinking too much into zach drying off his sweaty head
1. Niggas on the Moon
2. No Love Deep Web
3. The Money Store
4. Government Plates
5. Exmilitary
6. Jenny Death
Is Matthew Hoffman a member of Death Grips now? Are Death Grips going to make an apperance in Hoffman's senior citizens project?
>>63305243
>people on mu don't argue about who's taste is superior
is there any reason someone hasn't found a lip reader to get some semblance of what they're talking about?
also i think this is their most inspired music since NLDW
The Powers That B > Government Plates > No Love Deep Web > The Money Store > ExMilitary
>>63305587
im transcribing it right now senpai
>>63305613
ayyy :)
>>63305589
first time I see someone else with the patrician opinion
I'm this guy >>63304560
Negratas en la Luna > Amor No Web Profunda > Jenny Muerte = La Tienda del Dinero > ExMilitar > Matriculas Guvernamentales > Semana Moda
I hope we get a high quality Interview EP with seperate tracks.
>>63305752
damn why does Andy look so noided. He must have been hitting LSD hard lately.
>>63303237
this sounds interesting
>>63304115
ah man, i'm not one to get on people for trying to analyze things they're into, but this is really overstepping it.
>>63304560
>your guyses
>>63305752
>tfw Matthew's body will be found in a dumpster in a few days
>>63295297
This
>>63305752
who is matthew hoffman? is he famous, or is he just a guy who looks right for the part?
>>63304115
I noticed that too. it's pretty dumb that people don't you could also think of the conference as a last supper, how many chairs were there?
>>63306225
both
>>63306228
You guys have taken this too far
>>63306228
3 chairs, just like at the last supper
oh
my
g-d
>>63306615
it's very basic symbolism and you would be really naive to think it's unwarranted. Where else do you get a list that's written "on the 'x' day _____?"
like come on. it's very basic.
>>63306676
I was talking about the chairs in the audience space
>>63306676
>>63306744
and I just counted there's either 12 or 13 so the disciples thing clearly fucking fits.
This is the last supper. It means Bottomless Pit is the end of Death Grips.
Does Ride have talent?
>>63305752
Why is stefan pouting like that
3 w i s e m e n
>>63306817
n i g g a h e f i n n a d o i t
Hi Jackson
>>63306812
He looks like black John Frusciante with that pout.
>>63306970
Skinny ass Biggie Smalls
>>63304560
Fucking perfect opinion
>>63307408
ExM is objectively the best, stefan is at his best on blood creepin
>>63307481
I can see ExM being better than TMS but that's about it.
>>63307481
I think it's time to stop the "objectively" meme everyone.
Im so scary what the fuck was the video? lmao
>>63297656
delete this
Hot Head changed me
>>63306172
>tfw Death Grips will perform without Andy on their first concert after Bottomless Pit, but with Matthew Hoffman instead.
>>63304560
NOTM>TMS>NLDW=ExM>JD>GP
>>63306812
his lips look like an asshole
hmmmm......
>>63308985
our daddy taught us not to be ashamed of our grips
I can't stop listening to On GP. This song hits me in emotional places that almost no songs hit me. It's so fucking sad and dark, it's beautiful.
>>63306225
>>63305752
I am absolutely certain that they chose him because he shares the name of a serial killer. I mean, it all falls back to the motifs that started them off in Beware, in exmilitary. Charles Manson talks about how he runs the underworld, he also set out to find a hidden city called the "bottomless pit" that would help him and his family survive the coming race wars. It's all very fitting and works quite nicely.
Some anon posted pic related yesterday and /g/ won't answer so I'll ask here.
How the fuck do you add album covers as a column rather than a seperate UI element in Foobar?
>>63309541
nice fort minor and eminem, kek
>>63309746
Why would I be asking about the layout if it was mine?
>>63309746
Eminem is incredibly skilled you fucking pleb
DG fans know jack shit about rap
>>63309937
Eminem is instantly irrelevant when you discover DG.
>>63309937
Eminem is for fucking 11 year olds
>>63309937
He's a good lyricist but his music in general is pretty shit, MMLP and SSLP are ok
>>63305033
terrible
>>63310369
his lyrics have been shit and corny as fuck since those albums
>>63310474
Yeah, pretty much
>>63304560
GP should be last as it's objectively the worst album they've made. Parabola: The Album
>>63310560
this.
It's still a really good album but all their others are better
>>63310662
>>63310560
GP is a 9/10, its a pleb filter album
>>63310662
Exactly. It has some of their best (You Might Think, Two Heavens, Birds) but also some of their worst (feels like a wheel, bootleg, the first half of big house)
>>63310830
Like I said above. Feels Like a Wheel, bootleg, and the first half of big house are awful and shouldn't exist. The entire middle of this album is pure filler.
>you will never rode the tower of terror with mcgrip
>>63310849
Exactly
>>63310830
7/10 for me TPTB is the best at 9/10
>>63310830
>pleb filter album
'no'
it's their most accessible work, that's why it becomes boring so fast. At least this was the case for me.
Is there any confirmation on what the music in the interview is from? Are they making another instrumental album or are they from BP?
>>63310853
zach being considerate type to not block peoples faces with his hands, andy doing the opposite not even thinking of it, stefan so high on drugs that he's smiling.
weird picture
>>63310369
>he's a good lyricist
to 12 year olds
>>63310849
Feels Like A Wheel, ill give you that, but Big House? That song is sick af with the beat, and even some of what lyrics there are
>>63310873
its cool, i just love all their work is all
>>63310888
>i cant take a joke
GP is not the most accessible LOL the opener alone drives normies away
>>63310941
I never said it wasnt corny, he is still skillful at writing lyrics and freestlying, by no means the best though
>>63310961
he's just an irrelevant white nigger
I really don't get why people like GP so much. Its got a few great tracks but most of it is repetitive as fuck and there is less vocals on it.
Still a solid album but nowhere near as good as NOTM, NLDW or Exm.
>>63310954
The first half is just a looping fart synth though. Second half especially that first verse is great.
>>63310972
I never said he was relevant either, i don't like him or his music but he's a good lyricist
>>63310991
>looping fart synth
it is pretty bassy isnt it lol
>>63311019
>you will never look as cool as Stefan shirtless
Why live
>>63311045
get /fit/ and tats anon, sure u got more motivation that me
>>63311063
Yeah, i wanna start going to the gym soon but idk if tats would suit me
Bottomless Pit is a 3CD boxset. The first disc is the album itself, the second is outtakes and demos from the album, the third is a collection of demos and instrumentals spanning their entire career.
Andy Morin has said that he plans to periodically release more material that fits in with disc three via his website.
The last track gets me so fucking energized holy fuck
>>63310997
You're a nigger, he's a nigger; I'm not arguing with you.
>>63311179
thanks senpai
>>63311179
proof?
>>63311191
He's white and I'm white and I was never arguing but OK.
>>63310849
>bootleg
>one of their worst
>>63311179
Nice sources
>>63311179
Prove it
take a poop in front of us
then turn it into wine
>>63311179
thanks Matt
how hot was that room you were in? You looked pretty toasty man
>>63311243
>looking at pre-deathgrips pictures back when they were young and full of hope
feels strange, man
>>63295972
timestamp plz
>>63311325
TURN THAT POOP
INTO WINE
>>63298576
>>63303880
cool opinions
jk they're bad 8^)
>>63294737
exitmask.com is hosted through tumblr, shits fake
>>63295956
NAH
>>63311298
It's shit
>>63311814
we dont need your help
HOLY SHIT GUYS NEW DG CLAWS OF VEGAS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lUtjcfiOjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lUtjcfiOjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lUtjcfiOjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lUtjcfiOjc
>>63312029
10/10
>>63312029
OH FUCKLKKK
GET FANTANO ON THE PHONE
THIRDWORLDS DOWN
>>63312029
ih FUCK
its like hacker with on gp guitars but sped up
Three premaster leaks from DEATH GIRPS new album
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s01iGLXYPG16
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0YEF0GQ2xmm
>http://vocaroo.com/i/s1rhry4hl2BR
>>63312368
DJ AARON ELLIS
>>63312029
GAMBLIN WITH LIFE
ON THE CLAWS OF
VEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSS
>>63296072
holy shit yes.
idk, like 4 more months, maybe more
>>63312029
can i get a link of that lava cum video that's being sampled in this?
>>63306744
on the xth day of christmas my true love sent to me three grips and 1000% not giving a fuck
>>63311179
does this mean this is the real end of death grips? also bottomless pit because the album will keep growing indefinitely?
>>63314446
wait holy shit I also had a conversation with andy on twitter one time about my project that has a neverending album that will always grow indefinitely. if that happens, i'm gonna be both flattered and bummed
>>63314446
why are you believing him
The video was obviously meant to fuck with the likes of Fantano, Nardwuar, and everyone else who will never get to interview them.
where can I get the audio for interview???
>>63314489
Kind of like a bottomless pit, isn't it
>>63306808
death grips is all about death and renewal, that wa they always "move forward" with their music
>>63315866
if you think about the "dead" steffan at the end of wathever i want, the last track of jenny death (plus their breakup letter) and now this it might really fit
April 5th
>>63311104
you dont get a body like that at a gym tho
>>63316016
That's the frame of a man constantly doing drugs (when he's not running).
>>63315959
>le Ruskie proofs chicken.jpg
>>63298245
what if the album is actually remakes of all their old songs.
dg 2.0 tbqh.
How to get Steffan's physique? what's his routine?
Bump
Whatever I Want (Fuck Who's Watching) = best dg song
>>63317805
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1ei5rwO7ZI
>>63317805
Break mirrors with your face
3 sets, max reps
>>63317805
>be a lanky motherfucker
>get skinnyfat
>now work out
>>63310853
jesus christ is that
stefan smiling
delete this
They want US to decipher the interview
>>63310853
Literally the DG equivalent of this
>>63310921
Is any in this? Only one that makes sense is in the blue next to ride but he looks nothing like andy
>>63309294
>implying he isn't a serial killer
>implying Death Grips didn't get in touch with him to murder them and pose their bodies for the cover art.
>>63304115
he was actually representing Karen Black, Stefan was obviously Lemmy
>>63309541
there's a plugin/addon for that, forgot it's name but its made by some chinese dood
>>63318424
that is andy to the right of zach...
Did Matt get plastic surgy?
>>63305274
p o s t m e m e
>>63318401
wait is that gene wean behind him?
>>63318539
nice
>>63309541
it's NG playlist I think. there's a setting for it that includes album art formatted like that. comes with columns UI.
Quite happy with the foobar setup.
>>63295929
no but fw came out after notm you fuckin idiot..
>>63319210
does it sound like jenny assface?
what are you, a fucking drumpf supporter with tiny hands and a micropeen?
whos gonna make you great again?
>>63303572
no youre thinking of blank banshee
>>63307481
he definitely had the best energy on exmil
I have yet to listen to Hot Head. Waiting to hear it on bottomless Pit.
>>63312368
shit makes me feel so weird
>>63306225
He actually does celebrity interviews and is based in California.
>>63309541
it's not its own column. Options->Display->Columns UI->tick Enable sorting using column titles and tick Display artwork in groups
>>63309541
He's using the NG Playlist and to enable artwork you go to
>playlist view
>general tab
>display artwork in groups (at the bottom of the page
should i bump this thread?
>>63322003
nah, we're good m8
Best part of the video was when Hoffman breaks out in a smile and at least on some level is connecting to the music. Reminds me of my early days of listening to the band. It was so abrasive and hard to digest but certain parts of it I couldn't help but smile in awe.
They couldn't have picked a better guy for the video. He works so well aesthetically with the vibe they have going, it's a very surreal form of atmosphere to see him sit there so neatly watching them play.
>>63295828
pls
>>63311019
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tk-5RVMerfI
watch it full
>>63295828
les doodis
>>63322517
Gay
>>63322517
I thought that was funny too,
because we all went through this. We've made these faces. And we get to watch this model citizen-looking guy with the name of a serial killer that looks straight out of the 50's experience it.
>>63309541
What program is that? Looks really good
>>63324682
it's foobar using columns UI and NG playlist
>>63315959
Can you release it the sixth it's my birthday on the sixth
>>63305280
did ride pee his pants? pre cool
>>63305280
>Andy... cmon, I don't want to
>Just pose for the camera
>No!! Andy. I don't want to! I wanna go home and play with Zach
>Just stand still for one second
who do you think is the real brain in death grips?
i think zack is the genius
What are y'alls Top 5 DG songs?
1. Whatever I Want (Fuck Who's Watching)
2. Turned Off
3. Billy Not Really
4. Say Hey Kid
5. Anne Bonny
6. No Love
7. Bootleg (Don't Need Your Help)
8. Why a Bitch Gotta Lie
9. Up My Sleeve
10. Culture Shock / Bass Rattle Stars Out The Sky (couldn't decide)
am I going mad or did they just alter the layout of the catalog?
>>63324863
Lock Your Doors
Black Dice
Billy Not Really
Inanimate Sensation
Birds
Anne Bonny
Beware
Hacker
Takyon
Punk Weight
>>63324863
1. Feels Like a Wheel
2. Birds
3. The Cage
4. Bitch Please
5. Why a Bitch Gotta Lie
6. Fuck That
7. Come up and get me
8. i'm overflow
9. You Might Think He Loves You For Your Money But I Know What He Really Loves You For It's Your Brand New Leopard Skin Pillbox Hat
10. Fever (Aye, Aye)
vroom vroom (I want to fuck Charli XCX t b h)
>>63317805
Dark skin makes muscle more visible and he has an incredibly low body fat so it's easy to see his musculature.
He's probably never seriously worked out
>>63324863
>top 5
>lists 10
daily reminder Zach's brother is probably reading this and laughing at us
>>63325543
no u
>>63325444
are you ok brah?
Exmilitard>birth
The Money Store>Prime
NLDW>Death
GP>Transitional birth (mc ride is now possessed)
NOTM>Prime
Jenny Death>Transitional Death (DG 2.0 leading into the birth of a new and final trilogy)
Bottomless Pit>Birth
Do you think Zach regrets forming Death Grips?
>>63325543
>Zach here
>>63326155
o fuck
>>63317878
Kill yourself
>>63325444
deathgrippin
>>63324863
Lock Your Doors
Billy Not Really
Anne Bonny
Up My Sleeves
Inanimate Sensation
Spread Eagle Cross the Block
Black Dice
Get Got
Beware
>>63324863
1. Fuck That
2. The Powers That B
3. Fuck Me Out
4. The Cage
5. Black Quarterback
6. BlackJack
7. This Is Violence Now
8. Inanimate Sensation
9. Lord of the Game
10. Voila
In no particular order
>NLDW is my least favorite album :^)
>>63304560
i actually completely agree holy shit
i mean i love all of their releases but TMS is my least favorite somehow, along with ExM
I didn't like GP at all but when i recently went back to it i loved the hell out of it, this one's crazy.
Also i like the fact you didn't rank Fashion Week, i think it's unfair to rank it as it's just a compilation of instrumentals dropped for free as a bonus during the wait for JD
>>63324863
1. Spread Eagle Cross The Block
2. Hacker
3. Turned Off
4. On GP
5. Culture Shock
6. 5D
7. Lost Boys
8. Stockton
9. Pss Pss
10. Centuries Of Damn
i really enjoyed Interview 2016. These guys know how to play with their fans and keep the hype up for an album.
The great thing about that video is that it both creates frustration as you expect to watch a normal interview and want to hear what they're saying, but at the same time you get new content that's really good. They know that the fans are dead curious about their lives and that there's almost no interview of them so they played with that.
The reactions for the video will probably show who are the "real" fans though; if you complain about not hearing what the fuck they talk about even though you got 20 minutes of new stuff out of the blue, you should fuck off.
They were completely aware of that and i think that was the message of the whole video. These guys are great.
>>63327333
>>63308203 (You)
>>63305660 (You)
>>63304695 (You)
>>63304560 (You)
>>63327524
>The reactions for the video will probably show who are the "real" fans though; if you complain about not hearing what the fuck they talk about even though you got 20 minutes of new stuff out of the blue, you should fuck off.
>They were completely aware of that and i think that was the message of the whole video. These guys are great.
they just dont give a fuck at this point m8
So his show is called "Tuesdays with Michael"
It's Tuesday today
Real audio when?
>>63294625
>implying TMS wasn't their best
>>63326155
Far fetched but actually makes sense though.
Anyone else think its cool death grips know how to harness the memetic magic?
IT'S TIME
>>63319198
link?
so why hasnt anyone been able to transcribe it yet
>>63328801
Noticed your filename. Doesn't Andy Morin also have a stage name? And if so, what is it?
>>63328859
flatlander?
>>63328859
The Duke of Doom
>>63328859
Flatlander
>>63297656
Move up NOTM between JD and NLDW and this is good.
>>63328923
No. Andy isn't flatlander, he's just Andy.
>>63328859
codename dancer
>>63328859
Beastcock Infinity
>>63328849
does no one care about what theyre saying or can no one on here read lips?
>>63329230
What if they're not saying anything?
hey how bout that, this thread gonna die
>>63329230
it's probably gonna get an actual release, probably alongside the album.
>>63325543
Did anyone find that WoW documentary Zach's brother was making?
