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Womeme edition.
Post about your favorite female composers and performers.
>inb4 how do I into classical?
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http://crudblud.sjm.so/
>>62371251
Shite. I didn't realize there was a /classical/ thread up already. Bump
GOAT pianist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMwEhM83X5Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n04GkRTC_Lo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdqBfMb3pX0
>>62372180
Not even the best female peenist
>>62373936
Yes, but Clara Schumann didn't leave any personal recordings.
gotta go fast
“If you were not all such tedious fellows, Das Rheingold would be finished within two hours.” (Wagner to Hans Richter. And for comparison, an average Das Rheingold performance probably takes around 2'30)
Wagner calling people tedious when Act II of Die Walküre exists is kind of funny though
>>62374927
I think a friend of mine saw that production not too long ago. He said the presentation was amazing.
>>62374927
There are other factors besides the time signature. Some productions might spend time in between acts. That wastes some of the time.
>>62372180
hottest babe that was ever named martha.
as for fem composers i'm currently liking Dobrinka Tabakova
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZ-VjNi2Iac
So I did a quick search and found some essentials, and I'd like to listen to the music in this image, but the link doesn't seem to be working. Anyone know where I can find downloads for these recordings?
Has there ever been a piece composed specifically for saxophone quartet (not an arrangement) that wasn't complete shit? I think the only one is Xas by Xenakis.
>>62376280
Literally every single one of those is awful.
>>62373982
She did leave Robert to die alone though.
Guys what's that one that goes:
>dun-nun
>small pause
>DENEN
>small pause
>dun-nun-nun-nun
>small pause
>DENEN
>small pause
>dun-dun-dun-dun-dunsomethingsomething (descending meme cadence)
>small pause
>DENEN
>dun-nun-nun-nun
>DENDEN (this time it's major)
Something by Liszt maybe?
>>62376307
Happen to have a better one?
>>62376348
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WlqGkVc29Gw
This singe composition is better than all of those put together.
>>62376342
make a vocaroo?
>>62376361
scriabin is on there though.
Poem of Ecstasy is at least as good as (if not better than) Vers la Flamme.
>>62376361
I meant anything similar to that, like a list of recommendations for someone new to the genre.
Pls help me, /classical/, you are good people... I want to listen to Handel's suite in D minor (437) ("sarabande" movement was used in Barry Lyndon) but I don't know where to download it.
>>62376365
Hes memeing you fucking retard
>>62376361
you have no idea how retarded you sound but I don't think you'd understand even if we explained it to you
>>62376342
I may be wrong, but it could be Dvorak- symphony no. 9 - 4th movement - Allegro con fuoco, the best performance of this is by Gustavo Dudamel, he performed it in front of the pope quite a long time ago.
>>62376721
Explain my rectum asunder.
>>62376280
Many of these can be found on YouTube. For example, The Collegium of Japan's version of Bach's Mass in B Minor is on YouTube in two parts.
>>62376317
She was a good composer/ pianist but perhaps not a good person. Also, in the 1800s there wasn't much to be done for the mentally ill.
>>62376342
Thus Spake Zarathustra
hey senpai, what gabriel faure pieces/recordings do you guys recommend?
>>62377035
The melodies of Faure. The recording with Elly Ameling, Gerard Souzay and Dalton Baldwin.
>>62376741
>>62377028
I forgot to mention it was solo piano. I think it was (or at least sounded like) late 19th century Romanticism too.
>>62376365
My singing is even more tonally ambiguous than my "transcription".
>>62377203
OH SHIT never mind, I found it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z36aWM3jYT8
I knew it was Liszt.
>>62376307
>Gergiev Rite of Spring
>Glenn Gould Bach
>Argerich Rachmaninoff 3
>All shit.
Yeah. I'll not trust your opinion. Why do so many faggots in /mu/ have to have such edgy opinions? You know there's SOME room for criticism between "essential" and "shit".
Most non-retards would temper their opinion of what are objectively good recordings. You don't have to like them, or even to think they're great, but they're far from shit.
>>62376361
>Respond to an entire graph of great classical pieces in great recordings with a single piece.
>Its a single fucking piano piece by scriabin.
God damn I'm starting to think he's almost a meme. Scriabin is bloody brilliant, a great story, great music, and great performances. Probably close to all of his piano work surpasses that of Stravinsky, but would any of them rival The Rite of Spring? Or dozens of his other works? No.
>>62376342
This? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-E_yy28_4A4
I have no idea. I'm assuming you're a troll desu.
>>62377035
The requiem. I'm not a big fan of Faure overall though.
>>62376280
I got a LOT of great music off of mediafire, but that was damn well near 7-8 years ago now. The internet's cracked down on a lot of good shit, limewire is long since dead and diseased, and a lot of torrent sites don't have much to offer.
If you check piratebay you might be able to fight a box-set torrent of Mahler and Schubert's collected works for download.
But if you want SPECIFIC recordings that are good then just pay for them. Classical music needs support, and the chances of you finding old recordings from specific performers playing specific pieces is pretty fucking low senpai.
Another good source is libraries though. Most decent sized libraries will have CD reserves that you can take out to upload. Most will have decent audio qualities, variety, and a good sized classical section. In my experience anyways.
>Comment too long, can't dump links yet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9YowLzeC0c
>>62377824
Gergiev is underrehearsed and his orchestra makes a ton of technical mistakes; most egregiously, the tam tams are off rhythm in the dance of the earth
Glenn Ghoul's Bach reeks of autism; there are so many better recordings as Bach is such a cornerstone of the keyboard repertoire
Argerich is fine, but Rachmanshitoff is garbage
>>62377929
>>62377824
But, more importantly, anon was claiming that all of the old "essential classical" charts are awful, which is undeniably true
>>62377954
That was mentioned. That anon presented only one recording though.
Posting Violin recordings since that's what I know best:
>James Ehnes playing some Elgar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AANa0tqvdps
>Probably the best recording of Tzigane
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4teq6awLkOE
>Best live performance of any bach I've seen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xjYQlmpS69k
>Under-Appreciate Violin Concerto:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYsnGjRBk8c
>Underrated Violin Concerto
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og3mX8dB2YU
>Crummy recording quality but great performance/piece
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FmzM6COfn8E
>That downbow staccato
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yl9NMaTlb4s
>Vengerov being a fucking awesome person
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kzB4TN7O3rU
>Part of Bernstein's series of lectures on musical phonology / syntax / semantics.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V82aqyG1k5M
>>62377929
Anon please post all the mistakes that Gergiev makes
>Best symphonies of all time
>Best string quartets of all time
>Best piano sonatas of all time
>Ushered in a new period of music
How can people deny that Beethoven is the greatest musician of all time? I've seen people say that Bach and Mozart are as good, but what can you argue for this?
>>62378106
>tfw thread dies once i post.
Vengerov is so fucking adorable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbWbbUOyPxg
Bet you didn't know this existed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzY_KZTSXJk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vdgZAJVnes
This actually sounds so fucking hard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1qFw7qv3OI
>>62378248
>Bach and Mozart are as good, but what can you argue for this
The quality of the composition. Beethoven is not as sophisticated as these two, more show than quality. To speak in two year old memes: He wears a fedora.
>>62378248
How can Beethoven be the greatest musician of all time when he isn't even the greatest black musician of all time?
>>62378248
I think that Beethoven is easily the 2nd best or 1st best. Although I wouldn't say its because of the best of any of those genres.
Beethoven was innovative and evocative. He practically invented romanticism. The parameters by which we judge greatness pretty much have to come down to depth and innovation to make any sense, otherwise its almost all just about taste imo.
>Personal favorites:
Mahler's 2nd symphony
Ravel's or Grieg's string 1st string quartet.
Scriabin's Black Mass or White Mass
>>62378106
>Michael Rabin
I hate that word but he really is underrated.
>>62375584
kind of a moot point in this case though, since recordings used for the statistic i provided do not have an intermission (obviously) since they are on CD and that would be silly.
also pretty much every production i have seen of Rheingold does the entire opera all the way through with no interruptions. there is no acts in Rheingold unlike the other operas of the Ring, only scenes (4).
>>62378284
>The quality of the composition
Can you back this up? Beethoven is the highest quality.
Tfw its time for another little 3 shit flinging contest
>>62378248
But how can he have the best piano sonatas of all time if Scriabin 5 exists?
>>62378324
compare counterpoint quality
>>62378352
Its pretty much the most useless debate of all.
I think anyone with a brain knows that Mozart, Beethoven, and Bach are the three greatest composers of all time. Its really just a matter of where you put who and by how much.
That's assuming you even agree that they're comparable.
Damn good performance and video of Brahms. Zimmerman feels a bit mechanical at times, but he's pretty damn good. Just wish he let things breath more sometimes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXdGk-at29w
>>62378409
Counterpoint sucks my balls
>>62378441
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TKVpUSWCug
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=poG0537wCfM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLckHHc25ww
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ks9Q8AF4Do
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cOlQzoULv4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MiY-SgAFUUY
Kek
>>62378248
Except that Scriabin has the best Sonatas
>>62378713
He didn't even have the best Russian piano sonatas.
>>62378713
>>62378388
We can all agree that Beethoven made the best piano concerto though right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDXWK3W477w
Scriabin's is pretty good though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylSrzlphVq0
>>62378520
>Reich
b8
>>62379209
>links to Street Light Manifesto "Point/Counterpoint"
>b8
You don't say ;)
>>62376342
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DjE1yst49rU
This perhaps?
>>62378805
No, Mozart's piano concerti better.
>>62378713
Scriabin's sonatas are the epitome of dry formalism.
What's the best era and why is it impressionism? Tell me your favorite piece of music.
https://youtu.be/YC56jnMf95Y?t=9m4s
>>62379891
>Scriabin's sonatas are the epitome of dry formalism.
>/classical/ - 2016
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9cnyfET1lE
>epitome of dry formalism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06O5TWFMmPs
>IN THIS MOMENT I AM EUPHORIC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNrM37AYxfc
>This is so jagged and ugly. I prefer Bach and Beethoven when it comes to counterpoint XDDDDD.
I don't even like Mozart at all but the amount of blatant disregard of the music itself in mind-boggling.
What is the earliest example of a "nocturne"? Not by name but by sound - private, somber, and non-formalist.
>john field
EARLIER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAwD0pLA8Pk
>tfw if mozart was actually black this would be the earliest recorded instance of a jig jigging
Hello /classical/. I love classical music and I began composing on my own time for fun. This is a snippet from a piece that I plan to compose. I was wondering what you guys think of it? There are a good number of techniques I'm trying to demonstrate with this first composition like the interesting 6/4 bar in the beginning which helps make it a little more interesting. Any tips for other cool things I could do?
>>62379891
>Scriabin's sonatas are the epitome of dry formalism.
Coming from somebody who likes Schoenberg LMAO
>>62380570
Jeux is pretty cool senpai
>>62378805
>Beethoven made the best piano concerto
>Link to not his best piano concerto
>>62383683
the emperor is literally only of thovens only good pieces
>>62383839
The Emperor literally prefigures firetrucks.
>>62383927
Beethoven himself is the founder of the fire station.
>>62383927
Firetrucks are interesting compared to the rest of Beethoven's pieces desu
>Anti-formalism is the new autism
>>62384338
Formalism is the old and the ONLY autism.
SOUND>FORM
RESULT>INTENT
>>62384847
Also:
NOT GERMAN MUSIC>GERMAN MUSIC
>>62378248
>Best string quartets of all time
Mozart's are better,
>>62385727
I don't think that "good" can ever apply to Mozart but it's worth mentioning that yes, his quartets are better then Beethoven's in the sense that they are cohesive rather than individual notes wantonly excreted with no rhyme or reason, like Beethoven's.
>>62383146
Just listened to it, I enjoyed it a lot. Can you tell me some more?
>>62386263
Just listen to a shitload of Ravel and Debussy.
tfw your professor has access to giacinto scelsi's original improvisations and played some excerpts to your class today and it was mind-blowingly good
Rec cute pieces.
Saint-Saëns is underrated.
>>62376397
Please?
So what's the deal with Ives?
Current organ jam. Heard this performed the other day as a voluntary. Organ pieces with 'Carillon' seem to be pretty good as a rule
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcRyXfs0K7U
>>62388022
hes a beautiful singer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10pqluMwgXQ
Best interpreter of beethoven's sonatas? I like baremboim but he's not very clean in some executions, kissin instead is pretty clean but a bit soulless. Suggestions?
And please only pianists that have decent quality recordings
>>62388687
sorry but if the recording doesnt have audible pops, cracks, and a low frequency range than it sucks
>>62388687
Schabel seems to be the set that gets memed around the most, but I somehow prefer Pollini
>>62389129
*Schnabel
>>62386263
Roussel and Delius
Also try the Spanish post-Romantics and modernists, they're the closest to French Impressionism without the French part
>>62388687
Brendel m8s
>>62388022
Genius
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qPZbHNuZzI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2closM4jzc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c14faEPytCw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpihWbWIsRc
>>62388198
Absolutely adorable
He captured the essence of America before Hollywood and WW1 so brilliantly
His music is a gateway to a forgotten America
>>62389253
Hi CLT
>>62388687
Schnabel, Yudina, Richter, Gilels, Grinberg, Solomon, Anda, Hungerford, Backhaus, Casadesus, Kempff.
>>62389129
it doesn't get memed around THAT much, i imagine most people listen to stereo recordings over the Schnabel set, but the latter is still pretty important and required listening for any piano aficionado.
>>62385833
I have to know who you think is good anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7udClrQtmws
what are the greatest symphonies?
>>62391014
Pretty much everything besides beethoven
>>62391103
what the fuck is this meme
>>62391129
Mate he's been memeing this for months, it's just background noise at this point
>>62382388
It looks nice. It looks kind of minimalist.
>>62391129
>>62391177
Thovenplebs are the cancer of /classical/, don't ever listen to anyone who has something positive to say about Beethoven
>>62391177
>>62391129
Yeah, you should ignore him just like everyone else does.
>>62371251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7su7d76LhWg
Can anyone recommend me some other contemporary choral?
>>62392071
I reccomend Richard Einhorn's Voices of Light.
Why does listening to Shostakovich make me so uncomfortable?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0nKJoZY64A
>>62371251
do you think bingen was hto
>>62394455
Not OP but Hildegard was probably very hot.
Novaes is so good holy shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wRXQpoI__Qc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktww5cQZegY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2TgV6PRnOcA
>>62371251
>Womeme edition.
Literally the meme gender
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CygZTbAxf7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tHqbdO04_c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ja7ugHH8DtM
More memes coming through
>>62393443
Shit music m8 desu senpai desu
still my favorite meme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky9VERhvMwI
>>62396144
always crack a smile whenever she pulls out the cig
>>62396189
some things cant be changed
>>62396328
bonus
Who is the Hieronymus Bosch of music? Gesualdo?
>>62396540
ockeghem maybe
>>62396584
heh, no. Ockeghem is way more orthodox than Gesualdo or Vicentino
>>62371251
Women make excellent interpreters but shit composers
>>62396667
>writes music in 4 different meters
>still considered orthodox
>>62397253
moreso than Renaissance Wagner and microtonal wanker, yes
>>62396667
>Gesualdo
>not more orthodox than Palestrina
>>62391129
>BANGBANGBANGNINININININININININININININININININININININININIWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAILPRACEPRACEJITTERJITTER
Literally Beethoven
>>62398375
It seems that you're mistaking Beethoven for Shock Value composers like Sorabji, Scriabin, Schnittke, and Shostakovich.
>>62398559
>scriabin
>shock value
>forward slash classical forward slash hyphen two thousand and sixteen
>>62398882
The fact is quite obvious once one grows up from their mysticism obsessed avant-teen period. Scriabin just adapted the mystic chord many times to the sonata form and miniature forms of Chopin and compatriot Russian composers, often resulting in works that simply abused the dynamics of the instrument(s) in order to evoke imaginative ejaculation.
>>62398315
have you even listened to either of those composers?
Palestrina is safe as fuck. sticks to the same mode for most of a piece.
>>62398375
you might want to listen to some more Beethoven.
>>62399578
>In marked contradiction to this notorious evaluation from Dr Burney, [Gesualdo's] technique [is] considerably more consistent, sophisticated, rigorous and disciplined than that of many contemporaries, and even of such accepted masters as Palestrina and Victoria. This has made the task of reconstruction both easier and more difficult - easier because the 'rules' are so clear and unequivocal, and more difficult because there are consequently so few possible solutions to each point of imitation.
James Woods talking about reconstructing Gesualdo's second book of motets there. The orthodoxy (and indeed conservatism) of Gesualdo's composition techniques in the motets is what allowed him to reconstruct the two missing parts.
>Palestrina
>safe
One would certainly hope so since his compositions have been used as models for vocal compositions for four hundred years. With the wisdom of hindsight such advancement seems a matter of course but, but if you were predicting the development of music in the mid 1550s, before Palestrina came onto the scene, it is not at all obvious that Palestrina's style would become so significant.
>>62395361
Holy shit I've been listening to her recordings and I didn't even know she was a woman.
What's /classical/'s ranking of Beethoven's symphonies? I've only listened to them 4-5 times but I can't decide between 6 and 9. Also, dem scherzi.
(besides autistic anon that will meme again)
>>62399216
> Scriabin just adapted the mystic chord
>thinks tonal harmony is the foundation music
>miniature forms of Chopin
>thinks clean melodies and non-jittering phrases are "forms of Chopin"
>and compatriot Russian composers
>thinks scriabin is derivative of the five when in fact the five were THE most derivative russian or otherwise non-german composers
>scriabin
>avant-teen
>scriabin
>possibly the most aesthetically restrained composer of his time even when analyzed in a vacuum never mind when compared to the contemporary cretinous fanfares of germany
By the far the worst comment in this thread.
>>62399608
Even his bagatelles are too overblown.
Any fans of Charles-Valentin Alkan here?
Discovered the composer a few years ago, but nobody seems to know about his music. It's not the easiest music to get into, but it's honestly brilliant.
Symphony for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79ZNMQ4neJM
Concerto for solo piano: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-YXdfKK4J0
Etude Op 35 No 11: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwwNe1mUbYo
>>62399881
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy8GFclwEP4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzzCpL_i7K8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mNI8iLWGyFU
A L K A N
L
K
A
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To be fair, he does have a TON of boring Lisztian/German trash, but when he memes he memes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctsWdUaHsHM
Is there anything else like this? I love the combination of its bouncy, jovial feel with all the chromaticism and weird harmonies.
I need some adagios with a feeling of tempest.
>>62372180
Absolutelly
Doesn't the feigned elitism sometimes depress you? I listen to Classical music for consolation, enjoyment and ecstasy. If I want mere intellectual stimulation I read philosophy. Maybe I am a hopeless Romantic.
>>62399688
>What's /Classical/'s ranking of Beethoven's Symphonies?
I prefer the 9th and 7th but I'm sure many contrarians will jump in and claim to like the 1st or 3rd.
Dubravka Tomšič
So underrated
>>62400374
Try some of Prokofiev's other works, including Poruchik Kizhe.
>>62402357
Preoccupation with form is indicative of being autistic and a faggot.
>>62402416
The 3rd is great and hardly contrarian at all.
>>62402534
They're all great. I meant to imply that shitting all over the 9th is common. I actually do like the 3rd.
>>62402416
>What's /Classical/'s ranking of Beethoven's Symphonies?
1: Ends about 3 movements too late.
2: Ends about 3 movements too late.
3: Ends about 3 movements too late.
4: Ends about 3 movements too late.
5: Ends about 3 movements too late.
6: Ends about 3 movements too late.
7: Ends about 3 movements too late.
8: Ends about 3 movements too late.
9: Ends about 3 movements too late.
>>62399852
It's obvious you've never even studied Scriabin's works to know that he couldn't sign his full name without writing "Recapitulation" or in ternary form. Of course you're too busy being ignorant and Germanophobic to become informed, also evidenced by lumping the entire Five together as if they were one united cause (and by the way, there are more Russian composers than the Five).
>>62399688
Will vary too much, though typically most everybody places 2 and 1 at the bottom.
>>62402819
Fair enough desu senpai.
>>62401195
Schubert String Quintet
>>62402910
>Germanophobic
Isn't he being a Germanophile.
>>62402910
We've reached peak /classical/.
I'm not going to address the Scriabin argument since it's already too Gouldy in here. But I should mention that when I say "German" I'm referring to a certain style of music rather than a group of people. There are plenty of non-Germans who have composed German (repetitive, formalist, anti-hearing) music - Tchaikovsky, Liszt, Stravinsky.
>>62403090
>possibly the most aesthetically restrained composer of his time even when analyzed in a vacuum never mind when compared to the contemporary cretinous fanfares of germany
Thus it was written.
>>62403145
Oh look, two more composers Scriabin owes much to. Might I add on Schumann and Wagner as well?
>>62402819
Shitting on the 9th happens because "Ode to Joy" is probably his most well known music in popular culture, and there's plenty of contrarians here.
>>62400374
2nd movement of his 7th Symphony.
Not sure if this is the thread to ask but I've wanted to play piano seriously for awhile now. Is Erik Saties Gymnopedies a good first piece to learn?
>>62375753
hey this is pretty good, thanks anon
>>62403145
>Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Liszt, Wagner, Schumann, and "Russian composers"
Is there anyone he didn't imitate? He wrote some music in C minor too, better add Beethoven to the list.
>>62403499
Oh shit, this is meant for:
>>62403166
>>62403499
>>62403550
Scriabin also used perfect intervals, JUST LIKE BACH! Coincidence? I think not.
>>62403477
If you really enjoy it sure, but if you're not used to reading music then it'll take a while to find all the notes, even if the 1st Gymnopedie is quite simple.
>>62403499
You can find influences of Chopin, Schumann, and Tchaikovsky everywhere in his miniature pieces. The early Sonatas were modeled from Chopin and Schumann's sonatas while Liszt's B minor Piano Sonata and Dante Sonata were models for his later sonatas. Scriabin shared their flair for increasingly chromatic piano textures as well as Chopin's inconspicuous use of counterpoint. Beethoven less so, though he borrows some ideas from his late sonatas, of which the Op. 109 he played as his graduation recital.
Wagner and Mussorgsky were fixtures and major harmonic influences, going well into his late period works.
>>62402871
>9 - ends about 3 movements too late
The 2nd and 4th movements are the best movements of the symphonies though.
where can I download Schubert's lieders please help bruvs
>>62405393
By listening to Schumann
>>62371251
>tfw can't decide which Reflets dans l'eau is the best
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDo3UotyFUc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCkM2a4daZU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXVFJf_Oxkw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_OZr09HkDo
>>62399669
consistency does not equal tonal safe-ness.
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>>62402357
>If I want mere intellectual stimulation I read philosophy
Holy fuck and you think you're one to talk about feigning elitism/intellectualism.
Just go ahead and kill yourself.
>>62402357
Please follow pic related
Bump
>>62407089
That guy is retarded but don't hate on philosophy. Socrates was the first "epic troll XD."
>>62393443
>calling one of his only good pieces besides the meme waltzes shit
Epic
>>62399881
>>62399969
>Somebody finally posts L'enfer
My memeing worked
>>62400374
Listen to all of Prokofiev's pieces. His catalogue is pretty small and most of his pieces, even the lesser known ones are quality.
>>62405641
Are those both Monet paintings senpai? I like them.
>>62405641
it's just one of those pieces; other than the ones you linked I like a live recording of Freire, Meyer, Fevrier, 1936 Gieseking. Godowsky and Rosenthal are interesting too, but they view the work in an entirely different vein from the rest
there's also the 1957 Michelangeli recording where he blows through the work in less than 4 minutes, not too much breath between phrases but the extreme tempo combined with perfect technique creates some interesting moments
>>62371251
Amy Beach's Piano Concerto is great.
What are some good art songs in languages other than German, French, and English?
>>62408523
>Are those both Monet paintings senpai? I like them.
Yep
>>62408556
>Godowsky and Rosenthal are interesting too
I'm listening to the Godowsky recording right now, the recording is excellent for its age
>>62408556
One thing for certain is that Moravec's probably the greatest recent interpretation of the work
I used to lean toward Francois, but as of now Sofronitsky's recording of the work is my go to choice
It maybe just the recording but that golden tone of his makes the piece sound otherworldly
>>62407089
Is that such a pretentious statement?
>>62407228
Such a great meme. I too am desensitised towards suicide. I get an erection when I think about it, maybe I will crack one off while I hang myself. I need you to help me with my suicide piece though, don't want the people who find my body to think I'm a pleb lol.
>>62409399
rutracker 2927823
also paul jacob
>>62409556
Thanks
>>62408861
Not an expert on this but Grieg and Prokofiev are pretty good.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ZtSxS9-MQ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImVdH3riW2M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHfGCzfJciM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO2abfn6sTY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9z6o7Yk6lQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8ukgSflHBc
>>62402357
"Maybe I am a hopeless Romantic"
Not sure where else to go for this
I'm looking for some solo piano stuff, any recommendations?
>>62408861
mussorgsky
>>62410694
Beethoven's sonatas, Mozart's later sonatas, Bach's keyboard works, Chopin, Liszt, Scarlatti, Schumann.
That should keep you busy for a while.
>>62410764
Thank you anon
>>62410694
Listen to Scriabin
>>62410694
Some spark notes tier piano pieces 4 u:
[B-C]
Bach:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e58SLSzq3kI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67a5FTa1U1A
[Preferred version]
Beethoven:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wxds6tNDjY&index=3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_CMWOwLUKg
Brahms:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZ5A4ffWVuw
Chopin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pe-GrRQz8pk&index=6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgPh3mSYf0M
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFMYk_b1d4U&index=7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVV3SIvncD4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7mntyrW3HU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmQBFLJAIcY
>>62411168
>underrating Chopins Waltzes, his best works
youre a fag desu
where do I start with Brahms
>>62411217
>Spark notes version
I was reaching a limit on the number of links I felt like posting. His Waltzes are amazing, but his 1st&4th Ballades are god tier imo.
what's the appeal of dodecaphonism
>>62411366
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qs9lRO9WT8g
It's only one link senpai
>inb4 Kocsis is too fast
>>62411513
Just say twelve-tone you fucking autistic memer. Also it sounds like shit and has an "intellectual" following so people pretend to like it, just like New Complexity.
Schönberg can be interesting at times but otherwise it's a meme
>>62411560
holy shit you're rude
Who /brass player/ here?
F Horn best horn
>>62411560
Was trying to keep the links under 10min, people have crippling ADHD nowadays.
>>62411626
Rude but correct.
>>62411626
I'm being rude because you're using autistic musical jargon that only certain people understand.
>>62411940
I just read it on wikipedia
you need to calm down, not everybody's a memer
What is Mahler's best symphony?
>>62412418
5 is the only good one
>>62412418
4 desu
>>62412418
2 tbf
>>62412418
1 is the one
No love for the second.
>>62412501
But the 5th is a meme
>>62412625
Being this contrarian requires you to suggest other symphonies to prove you're not bad.
>>62412418
6 is my current favourite, 2 used to be my favourite but now I'm less interested in it, I'm starting to like the now 8th though
>>62412711
Anything is better than Mahlah (said in a jewish voice)
>>62412418
das lied von der erde ;^)
>>62412418
6 is the objectively correct answer
>>62411217
>>62411366
his mazurkas are better for the most part, but the art of playing them is long gone.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUEs6jOVRLg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LL5PPrSIpZ8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MStF_PeC-k0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlztEVWA5Y4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ5W8y2rJ94
>>62409432
>this lack of self-awareness
>>62413482
>his mazurkas are better for the most part
No they're not. His waltzes are literally the peak of Romantic era music along with Grieg's String Quartet.
His Mazurkas are still good though
>>62413700
from a music theory standpoint and not your shitty opinion, they really arent. pretty much every great chopin player has stated that either his mazurkas or nocturnes are his best miniatures. filled with sly complex rhythms and penchant for experimenting with harmony and counterpoint, they're some of the most difficult chopin pieces to pull off correctly.
>>62371251
Can any Medieval/Renaissance anons help me find an album?
I can't find Mnemosyne by the Hilliard Essemble anywhere online.
>>62399852
Well, his earlier works WERE heavily derivative of Chopin, in all fairness. He even wrote an etude that was more or less the same as Chop's Funeral March.
I say this as an avid fan of Scriabin.
>>62414593
Yeah and that's why everybody prefers mid to late Scriabin.
>>62399852
>the five
>more derivative than Tchaikovsky
What is the classical piece that best encapsulates the human condition?
>>62414989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjzAi9f9PM0
How is your black history month going so far, guys? Knowing about the African ancestry of Ludwig Van Beethoven and Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart has really made me appreciate classical music a lot more.
>>62416291
>implying blacks are relevant in art
>>62415885
More like this?
>>62417818
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2lBnocuMC0
Has anyone here heard of phrygian gamer?
https://plus.google.com/109451694300000805577/posts
He was a youtuber that made some cool theory tutorials and analyzed some video game music in depth. He just suddenly disappeared like a month ago and hasn't shown since. Have any of you guys heard of him?
Are there cello concertos in the standard repertoire where the piano accompaniment version doesn't just sound like a poor imitation of the original? I'm looking for a concerto for my transfer auditions - I was considering the Shostakovich until I remembered I would have to play it with piano accompaniment.
