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Who's the saddest man in music?
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Who's the saddest man in music?
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dan barrett
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syd barrett
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wooten bassett
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>>61455071
he looks drained in that pic
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>>61455071
>Ian Curtis
>Brian Wilson
>Kurt Cobain
>Layne Staley
>Syd Barrett
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>>61455136
jugband blues is so sed :^(
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Mark Lanegan
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Morrisey
>Tfw no stitch to wear but you wanna go out tonight.
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Sufjan Stevens
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Ian Curtis
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>>61455192
/thread
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Jeff Buckley
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Jamie stewart
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Daniel Johnston
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Itt: INFP males
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stefan
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nick drake
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>>61455071

Probably Lonesome Wyatt
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>>61455136
>>61455164
>>61455249
>>61455254
>>61455320
>>61455542
>>61455656
>>61455674
these are my favorite artists
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>>61455071
>>61455078
>>61455136
>>61455164
>>61455184
>>61455192
>>61455249
>>61455254
>>61455320
>>61455542
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>>61455656
Does anyone find it weird that literally every post so far has been white men?
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>no Blind Willie Johnson mentioned
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This guy seems to have gotten better but he's pretty messed up
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>>61455728
Not trying to sound /pol/ here, but most introspective poet types are depressed white men

>>61455669
What this guy said, basically.

can you imagine a black Syd Barrett or Nick Drake? (you cannot)
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>>61455766
> black nick drake
>drake
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>>61455728
Hurr

Black people with severe depression generally run into more severe consequences for their self medication and acting out because black people are more often poor and therefore tend to live in less accomadating environments.

Look, an answer that doesn't involve race bait shitflinging!

Even with that said, Kendrick Lamar, Earl Sweatshirt and Stefan Brunette come to mind as non white musicians with lots of lyrics about depression and gloom.
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>>61455766
Have fun being ignorant.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qePHCNoEtqQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-MWeDuS5ask
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKpflHueZAk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZ8J8PSwEMo
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>>61455673
been a pleasure :'(
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>>61455785
>a boring, shallow pop culture meme man
>even in the same field as Nick Drake

And Drake is like 1/4th black
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>>61455766
>black men aren't sad
>invented the blues

...

>>61455806
this
for real
if you're black and depressed in the United States, you end up in jail, not in front of thousands of hipster girls with an acoustic guitar
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>>61455728
Makes a lot of sense 2bh. Why would Kingz ever be sad?
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>>61455816
So now outsider blues correlates to psychedelic British loneliness?

what did he mean by this?
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>>61455833
>>61455806
>if you're black,
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>>61455846
It correlates to sadness, which is what this thread is about.

But even then, Arthur Lee is another example of what you're looking for.
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Jason Molina is the only correct answer
Songs: Ohia is the epitome of sadness and Molina's life is a major tragedy. God dammit, mu. Cmon
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>>61455878
>comparing LA scene Love to Cambridge psychedelic inspired by Lewis Carol poems

What did he mean by this?
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>>61455728
blues is pretty sad
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>>61455806
>Kendrick Lamar

B8
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>>61455164
>Elliott Smith
>Nick Drake
>Jeff Buckley
>Amy Winehouse
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According to his death certificate, Johnson was born in 1897, in Independence, near Brenham, Texas. (Earlier, Temple, Texas had been suggested as his birthplace.) When he was five, he told his father he wanted to be a preacher and then made a cigar box guitar for himself. His mother died when he was young, and his father remarried soon after her death.

Johnson was not born blind. Although it is not certain how he lost his sight, his alleged widow Angeline Johnson told Samuel Charters that when Willie was seven his father beat his stepmother after catching her going out with another man, and that she, out of spite, blinded young Willie by throwing lye in his face.

It is believed that Johnson married at least twice. He was married to Willie B. Harris. Her recollection of their initial meeting was recounted in the liner notes for Yazoo Records's album Praise God I'm Satisfied. He was later alleged to have been married to a woman named Angeline. Johnson was also said to be married to a sister of blues artist L. C. Robinson. No marriage certificates have yet been discovered. As Angeline Johnson often sang and performed with him,the first person to attempt to research his biography, Samuel Charters, made the mistake of assuming it was Angeline who had sung on several of Johnson's records. However, later research showed that it was Willie B. Harris.

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Johnson remained poor until the end of his life, preaching and singing in the streets of several Texas cities including Beaumont. A city directory shows that in 1945, a Rev. W. J. Johnson, undoubtedly Blind Willie, operated the House of Prayer at 1440 Forrest Street, Beaumont, Texas. This is the same address listed on Johnson's death certificate. In 1945, his home burned to the ground. With nowhere else to go, Johnson lived in the burned ruins of his home, sleeping on a wet bed in the August/September Texas heat. He lived like this until he contracted malarial fever, and died on September 18, 1945. (The death certificate reports the cause of death as malarial fever, with syphilis and blindness as contributing factors.) In an interview, Angeline said that she tried to take him to a hospital, which refused to admit him because he was blind. Other sources report that the refusal was due to his being black.

According to his death certificate, he was buried in Blanchette Cemetery, Beaumont. The location of that cemetery had been forgotten until it was rediscovered in 2009. His exact gravesite remains unknown; but in 2010, the researchers who had identified the cemetery erected a monument there in his honor.

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>>61455192
*Saddest boy
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>>61455192
S A D B O Y S
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Still no Jackson C. Frank
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>>61455948
>severe alcoholism and intense regret about leaving your family and friends in the ghetto isn't sad

Op said sad musicians not sad music
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>>61456079
>>61456094
everytime
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>white people

ayyyyyy
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>>61457785

BOOOM HA-HAAAA HERE'S A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR ALL YOU BUSTAS
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Damien Rice would be up there.
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>>61456039
Elliott Smith is really the only answer, literally no one else comes close. My family friend was actually the ER doctor he was taken to to be treated when he committed sudoku.
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>>61455741
this is the only one I'd agree with
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>>61457805

>He doesn't approve ;(
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Townes Van Zandt
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>>61458047

that's tripfags for you mate
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Lou Reed
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>>61455669
>tfw this is my personality type
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>>61455071
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>>61458072

They really are the worst
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>>61458105
kek
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>>61455833

>if you're black and depressed in the United States, you end up in jail

yeah, no I am pretty sure you end up killing yourself like white people. Also depression is known to be prevalent with neanderthal genetics. Pretty sure Asians have high depression also.
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Iain, the Cvck
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>>61455071
Kid Cudi
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>>61455728
black people stopped channelling their sadness into sad music a long time ago
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>>61455831
Drake is exactly half black
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>>61455192
saddest firm around
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>>61455254
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>>61455254
Suf is the only artist whose music has caused me to have a breakdown
>twice
I don't know if he's even the saddest, there's just something about it, even in the happy songs.
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>>61455831

Who is you calling a "boring, shallow pop culture meme man" ??? Watch yourself.

*****

@Thread: Beta stuff is for white men, Black men gonna be sad on music just to make some award bait/critic bait. These things is planned. Depression is for losers.
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>>61459419
James Murphy is one of the only guys where, if I found out he had crippling depression, I would still think it was a bullshit excuse for him to be sad. He gets to live like a 20 year old trust fund kid for his entire life. Fuck that guy if he doesn't wake up every day in a good mood.
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>>61455071
Lil Wayne
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Stephin Merritt
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>>61455816
WE WUZ DEPRESSED N SHIT
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>>61455816
How is you boasting "depression" you fucking faggot? Those ain't depression tier songs. You fucking pride beta.
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guys, guys...

if i'm perfectly honest

... it's probably tylo be chillin
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>>61455071
some guy you will never heard about
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>>61455728
>literally every post so far
>literally

>>61455673
You missed one, buddy
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Mark Linkous and Vic Chesnutt
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>>61457919
Is there any doubt that it was suicide?
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>>61461423
yes
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>>61458139
The bottom graphs are the interesting ones. But isn't this fascinating? Why is race such a huge component in suicide in the US? I don't think there's anything in liberal, conservative, or libertarian thinking that would make people see this and go, 'yeah, that makes sense'.
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just.
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>>61459661
I never said me boasting was depression, dumbass, I'm talking about the songs themselves.
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>>61455833
>>61455728
>>61455806

Who is Kanye West?
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Nick
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>>61455152
oh my god
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>>61455728
Whites are the most melancholic people
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Me
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>>61462576
this
the people you mention were successful; weren't friendless virgins
doesn't sound very sad to me
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>>61458095
please help me to understand personality types. whenever i've tried to do it i get ENFP which seems to be mostly accurate except for the fact that i'm cynical and have social anxiety, so it can't be me right?
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>>61455898
this
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This bundle of joy
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>>61463052
probably just an unhealthy enfp
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>>61463143
for real
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>>61461423
>>61461453
Why the hell someone would kill Elliott Smith and make it look like suicide ?

I mean i understand for Kurt Cobain but Smith wasn't so popular
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>>61463329
mentally or physically?
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>>61455071
Georg Börner
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>>61455816
Abner certainly comes to mind as being a particularly sad man. The sadness in the blues is much more nuanced than in the music of the other artists mentioned here. Probably because blues is more like a folk style meant to appeal to others, while the others in this thread all carved out their own individualist styles, with their sadness helping to carve it out in a very audible way.
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>>61464748
That's not what "nuanced" means. But yes, the difference you're talking about is social issues vs personal issues, they're just different themes
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>>61455728
back to Tumblr, you human menstrual bleed
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>not kevin barnes

w/e
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>>61466265
more like the biggest d-bag
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>>61466281
>he can't handle the banter
Spoiled Bitch rich kid blogger brat detected
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>>61455192
i'd be sad too if i had a fat neck
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>>61455728
>men
that was specified in the OP

>>61465057
comments like that just make you seem ridiculous
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MC Ride?
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>>61463143
i'd be sad too if i hadn't made a good album for over a decade
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>>61461472
wow
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>>61466412
>over a decade
try ever
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>>61466412
But anon, Universal Themes came out last year?
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>>61464234
Yeah, Keaton Henson is one sad sack. Even though I loved Dear..., I can't listen to that anymore because it's just so profoundly sad. Ruins my day to listen to it.
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Pretty much any early Blues musician

John Coltrane's life really sucked but he didn't seem like an overly depressing individual
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>>61466408
/thread
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>>61456248
>>61456248
>>61456248
>>61456295
Man he got FUCKED atleast he had a good ride on the insurance money
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>>61461472
this is a really misleading image, the top and bottom graph don't take into account the population sizes of each ethnicity
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White 1st world people put depression and sadness on a pedestal. Colored 3rd world people do everything to escape it.
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>>61466428
your point being?
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>>61455136
WON'T YOU MISS ME?
WOULDN'T YOU MISS ME AT ALL...
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How do you people consider this man to be the face of depression?

>Steady job
>Married someone better off than him
>Has a kid
>Has friends
>Most depressing moment in life was his Dad dying

Not to mention he steals money from fans. Fuck him.
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>>61466281
it's bantz desu
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>>61466665
Just cause he has a relatively stable life, doesn't mean that he can't be depressed. The music he creates is incredibly depressing, but his life seems fairly normal.
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>>61455758
tell me more about him. I like their music, but I don't know shit about him.
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>>61455192
YEEEEE lol
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>>61462552
what was his personality type? someone must have an idea
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Deryck Whibley, obviously
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>>61465998
/thread
dubs confirm
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>>61467586
i'm getting a strong infj vibe
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>>61465998

Any Outsider musician is depressing, honestly.

Even if Wesley Willis' music was happy, his life sucked.
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donutman
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>>61455669
same
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Nick cave
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>>61466408
Yeah
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>>61461472
>The bottom graphs are the interesting ones.

Did you even read his post?
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>>61456079
>>61456094
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_o4omd8T5c
Was going to post this man too.
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>>61455728

White people suffer more easily from depression.

We also are more likely to become alcoholics.

Pls, some respect ok?
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Nick Drake of the top of my head. Of course, he isn't currently in music though.
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>>61459605
this is the only right answer
>In a September 2005 interview conducted by The Onion's The A.V. Club, alternative rock musician Bob Mould was reminded of an interviewer who once referred to Mould as "the most depressed man in rock". Mould's response was, "He's never met Stephin Merritt, obviously."
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>>61469804
>source
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me
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>>61466665
The fucker stabbed himself in the goddamn chest.
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>>61470473

Those books are 100% fiction.
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>>61455071
Beethoven :(

Chris Burrows?
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>>61455071
http://strawpoll.me/6443989
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Dave Bixby
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>>61466951
His life is much better than mine and I'm not depressed.
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>>61463838
people think it was his gf because there weren't hesitation marks, but the man was acting out of frustration when he did it so he probably took the plunge without really thinking if he wanted to or not.
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Nick Drake and Elliott Smith are the only two real answers. The Biggest Lie is one of the most heart wrenching songs I've ever heard.
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>>61470629
>adding captchas
why
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>>61470838
Haven't listened to Drake but Ellioth Smith is pure sadness.
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>>61466408
yes

also Elias Bender Ronnenfelt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwKjKAVq92s

A lot of you claim he's faking it but watch the interview and try telling me he's not depressed,

+ Jamie Stewart.
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>>61470925
its even sadder
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>>61470838
The only reason Daniel Johnston doesn't qualify is because he's still alive.
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No contest, probably the saddest discography on Earth
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Was gunna say Syd Barrett but he's been mentioned, so I'll throw one out there: Kid Cudi. Yeah yeah, he's a rapper, but anyone listened to how emotional his songs can get (The Prayer). Thoughts?
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tim buckley
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>>61463143
it looks like his face is too small for his head
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>>61469804
Big if true. But, big if.
Evidence plox
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