Is punk still edgy?
I need some (good) new punk/hardcore/powerviolence to listen to
>>61394233
everyone's lost their piss and vinegar unless you're looking for crust
I like Titus Andronicus for what I believe you are looking for, their anger (I belive) is genuine, they have a lot of scruffy eared heart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5HRRvZIEFI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEIceHIxvtI
>>61394233
i like emoviolence
mahria, pepi rossler, lord snow, nayru list goes on
its probably not that edgy tho
Punk is basically just SJW as fuck today. No edge left.
Not since late nineties, or whenever.
Powerviolence is borderline meme, in my opinion. I like crossed out, suffer, extortion (if they count as pv), despise you, dead in the dirt, few others.
For the best punk/hardcore right now, look to England and (as always) Massachusetts.
Perspex Flesh are great hardcore punk.
>>61394330
a little slow paced dont you think. I always get nostalgic during the new years so I pulled out a bunch of 80 japanese punk compilations I have.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNYqbSV-aw8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WswwUjM19SY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yILHGscmo-I
>>61394415
Mmmm love that 80s Japanese punk!
>>61394233
Check out aspects of war and other "new york is alright2015"
Some really cool.new.stuff happening there,
Japan.has some really good comptemory crust as well, Life released an album earlier this year, violence peace and peace research, is pretty good
>>61394399
>and (as always) Massachusetts.
Why does Mass have so many punk bands? I live right near there.
This band broke up a few years ago but their shit is tight. Apologies for MySpace link.
https://myspace.com/therowdyones/music/songs
nazi punks fuck off
>>61394233
>Sex Pistols
>Punk
Check out Puberty Wounds
>>61395097
shut up you dumbass poser
>>61394944
you replied to both of my posts man. Im checking those out, Japanses punk is my favorite punk.
but to tell you the truth I've never really liked NY hardcore. I actually saw this this morning and I remembered why I always hated NY hardcore,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRoEdcBgH2Q
cause all theses bands sound like shit. then theres that pop punk band at the end. what a disgrace
>>61395097
Ebin
>>61395137
Not the sex pistols
>>61395230
I feel you on no love for ny hardcore as well.
But aspects of war is d beat!
Great energy!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wM1TCRuXv9Y
Idk if there from ny or just play there, but the venue hosts alot of other neat bands too
>>61394350
>lord snow
fucking great band
>>61395230
Only NYHC band I really like is Sick of it All, they're great.
and yes, japcore is god tier.
>>61394375
Pretty much this. I feel like I'm just watching a bunch Starbucks baristas wank about SJW shit on stage whenever I go to punk show.
I'm getting into powerviolence, so far i'm loving Infest, Charles Bronson, Magrudergrind and Rorschach. Any more recs?
>>61395492
Siege! Infest was pretty heavily inspired by them
>>61395301
>ut aspects of war is d beat!
I suspected, since they'er named after a Disclose song
>>61395492
that band with the blue album cover. their name is axis or something. it gets posted a lot here.
>>61394233
the flex, chain rank, forced order, gag, violent reaction, fury, SPM, no tolerance, red death, and pure disgust to name a few bands that released good stuff this year.
>>61394233
>punk
>nazi shirt
Wut?
>>61394350
go listen to youth funeral its right up your alley
>>61395492
man is the bastard, spazz, full of hell
I don't listen to much powerviolence
>>61395751
Have you never heard of Skrewdriver?
Honestly, that sort of thing is probably THE most "rebellious" type of music out there in today's society, in terms of how much society frowns upon it.
>>61395230
If you don't love victim in pain you aren't punk. Also Vinnie is the man so fuck you.
>>61395720
>>61395492
>>61395798
This is fucking awful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAHHdAiUljE
NYHC is shit
This is way better and came out the year before
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxgH-fOwY9g
>>61395209
>>61395301
As someone who doesn't really fuck w/ punk anyway, I don't get it, why the fuck would punks be pro-Nazi? Why would someone on the fringes of society, treated with disdain by those actually in power, be pro-racism and pro-fascism? Or is it just an irony thing or something?
>>61395827
Finally a non-shitty grindcore album.
>>61395879
They wouldn't. Left punk is true punk and that's why it's still around and edgy nazi punk died in the 80s.
>>61395879
In the England of the 1970's and 80's? Because they were being displaced economically and residentially by immigrants from countries like Jamaica.
That was an anti-establishment stance, since the establishment supported the importation of cheaper workers.
>>61395871
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxgH-fOwY9g
for some reason this yt rip sounds slowed down. Please refer to this one instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5qg9SvktvQ
>>61394375
That's what it was before.
>>61395946
It still does though. What do you think all those kebabs are for?
>>61395879
If they got Mohawks or are Japanese, they're just doing it for shock value.
>>61395492
Siege
Dropdead
Discordance Axis
Pig Destroyer (newer stuff is less grind tho t.b.h)
Agoraphobic Nosebleed
theres tons more obv, just check some blogs and you'll have more grind than you know what to do with
>>61395871
YDI aren't bad but they don't come close to early AF. I'm going to assume your one of the "punks" who thinks more obscure and worse production = better
For the better part of the 80s there were more punk bands from new york alone than the rest of the world combined. Saying NYCH is bad makes you look ignorant as fuck.
>>61394233
check out bible thumper
>>61395492
Crossed Out are probably the best
Despise You are amazing too
Weekend Nachos are killing it these days.
No Comment - Downsided is one of the best PV 7" ever. You also need to listen to some Dropdead
>>61396001
>there were more punk bands from new york alone than the rest of the world combined
Your're the one who sounds ignorant
Theres way to many overseas bands to even name. Plenty of good stuff came out of Finland for example
>I'm going to assume your one of the "punks" who thinks more obscure and worse production = better
Nope. In fact I happen to like punk that had higher quality recording and production
Recorded 1978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONTj9Hgh_To
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqJCy991JJA
also from 1978
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYjBTiB9fN0
Some well recorded punk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPP9kHBZF-o
The fact that the bands may be obscure is besides the point
>>61396239
In 1981 that was probably true. In terms of the number of bands that were relevant, and pushed the genre in different directions, New York (and to a slightly lesser extent DC and Chicago) was the best city for creativity in punk music. Without NYCH we would have never had crossover, metalcore, beatdown... like 90% of hardcore bands these days are somewhat derivative of NYHC.
If you write off the whole city as trash you actually don't know your shit.
Beatdown hardcore is the only edgy version of punk left. Ever other subgenre has been infected with PC safe space faggotry.
>>61396368
>bands that were relevant
So you're saying that bands that were more popular were better? Yeah, go fuck yourself
>pushed the genre in different directions
Name some bands that didn't sound like every other NY band at the time. Hell, name even a current one
>and to a slightly lesser extent DC and Chicago
There you go. The Band Brains came along and completely changed the NY sound, but most (or all) the bands they inspired sounded like shit
>Without NYCH we would have never had crossover, metalcore, beatdown
Are you seriously defending metalcore and beatdown you fucking faggot?
If anything Boston had better sounding bands at the time
Punk's dead, OP, nothing but the aesthetic is left.
>>61396525
>PC safe space faggotry
Punk is intended to be a safe space for all the outsiders and weirdos. When you introduce things like racism and homophobia you're creating a new regime not a counter culture. That's why everyone turned on it.
>>61396614
Bands that inspired more people to play music are objectively better. Popularity has nothing to do with it. As I said in the last post (I guess you cant real all that well) crossover, metalcore, beatdown all started in new york. Before bands started making that kind of music punk had been stagnating. Anyone who lived through the era (me) will tell you that in the mid 80s punk seemed like it was dying and new life was breathed into the genre with bands like cro mags, cause for alarm / L&J era agnostic front, leeway, madball, youth of today, sheer terror....
as far as modern bands go, new york isn't as important as it used to be. DC remains strong and Baltimore has an incredible scene, probably the strongest in the country right now.
And yea I'll defend beatdown, because >>61396525
I don't want some scrawny piece of shit without the balls or initiative to mosh texting during a set. Crowd kill or GTFO.
>>61396795
Just because a handful of beatdown bands are racist doesn't mean the whole scene is. Way to generalize. Punk is supposed to be dangerous.
>>61395946
>In the England of the 1970's and 80's? Because they were being displaced economically and residentially by immigrants from countries like Jamaica.
>That was an anti-establishment stance, since the establishment supported the importation of cheaper workers.
Racism against said immigrants isn't a rational response
>>61396920
>rational
That's debatable, because people are racist towards immigrants all over the world since the dawn of man. I think assuming everyone will be welcoming to different people is irrational when you consider human history.
>>61396902
yeah dangerous socially and ideologically, the physical danger only really became a thing when hardcore got macho as fuck and then every good punk band pretty much stopped fucking around in the hardcore scene and it died
>>61396902
I wasn't generalizing beatdown, I just thought that's what you meant by PC safe space. Punk can be dangerous but bigotry is an obvious contradiction of it's core values and hinders the community more than anything.
>>61396987
you're not old enough to be posting on this board are you
>>61395792
I'd rather listen to CRASS.
Same message, same rhetoric, equally as rebellious, equally as hated.
Only difference between the two bands were that one wanted to fly the Union Jack, and the other the black flag of "Anarchy". Both sides think they're right, both fan bases are a bunch of hypocritical elitist fucks who say they stand against violence and trouble, but have no problems getting into fights w/each other when they see each other, and both fan bases are full of shit!
If I can say anything positive about Crass, Skrewdriver, and their fan bases, at least the bands were up front and honest, and their fan bases are loyal. Left wing, right wing, you can stuff the lot. Keep your petty prejudices. I don't see the point..........
>>61397008
>hardcore died
Not gonna argue with you anymore, your completely retarded and I actually kinda feel bad now. hardcore is more alive now than it ever was.
>>61397037
I'm probably twice your age.
>>61397019
http://wesleying.org/2014/04/11/______-fall-back-on-concert-culture-moshing-and-unsafe-spaces/
Read the article. This is what I mean by PC faggotry infecting the scene.
>>61397115
you werent arguing with me in the first place, hardcore had a massive dropoff in popularity and output in the early 90s, this is a fact, while you may choose to take DIE as a literal thing of it never existing again, i dont because i dont live in a world of absolutes.
of course hardcore never stopped, and yes its been more active than ever in the last 7 years because of bandcamp and soundcloud, but nothing i said was wrong
>>61397153
No it didn't. I was 19 in 1990. Thats when hardcore really picked up. Living in Cleveland until the mid 90s I saw some absolutely batshit insane shows. I will admit the scene was overly violent during this time and that turned some people away but there was no shortage of great bands and shows.
Wow this is an actual good thread discussing punk.
Half of it may be arguing, but its some discussion nevertheless
>>61396834
sorry anon, NYHC is shit. International punk was miles ahead of it
>>61398037
There are plenty of good international bands, but NYC is the punk capital. Nothing will ever change that. Stay ignorant.
>>61395745
Thank you for actually posting something constructive.
Massgrav and Sex Dwarf are some pretty good bands
