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ITT: Post the worst album you've heard this year. I have no fucking idea why The Wire thought this was the best release from this year.
i dunno, i thought it was pretty good
it was alright. just mediocre compared to other footwork releases this year
>>61139775
Explain what's bad about this.
>>61139840
I mean what's better?
Total snoozefest
>>61139871
i like the JLin record a lot, but the RP Boo album from this year was next level.
This is coming from a big fan of hers
>>61139933
checking it out
the singles I heard on YouTube didn't impress me nearly as much as stuff like Guantanamo and Unknown Tongues
1-2D-20'2 is unimpressive to me, feels like there wasn't any real effort taken to organize all the elements together properly
>>61139871
>Explain what's bad about this.
Awful production, tunes that doesn't go anywhere. You'll be assaulted with seemingly random vaguely footwork-y trap/tribal drum beats and annoying synths for 40 mins.
>I mean what's better?
Mark Fell and Gábor Lázár.
>>61139775
yeah idk OP this album was actually pretty good
the grimes one was bad.
I was able to push myself thru 3 or 4 songs before I had to turn it off
>>61139775
This album sounds like my fucking alarm clock, as does most footwork
>>61140010
>Awful production
false
>tunes that doesn't go anywhere
false, they're constantly changing
>You'll be assaulted with seemingly random vaguely footwork-y trap/tribal drum beats and annoying synths for 40 mins.
you mean an interesting mix of tightly written drums mixed with beautiful harmonies and sounds
>Mark Fell and Gábor Lázár.
now name a non-meme album
don't know why i even bothered with this meme shit
Fuck Elysia Crampton and fuck the retard who wrote the TMT review 50 times more.
The worst album of the year isn't going to be anything anyone has anything positive to say about
what a stupid thread.
This absolutely snoozefest
>>61140094
what's wrong with this album? I think it's quite enjoyable if you ignore the pretentious background
>>61140108
it's worst album YOUVE heard, not the worst album overall
yeah no if you want an album that doesn't have changing tracks go for RP Boo's.
it's pretty boring desu, dark energy's better
>>61140108
>believing all music no matter how awful has positive qualities
ok snowflake
>>61140094
Isn't this some fucking concept album about native americans and tectonic plates?
>>61140067
>false
:^)
>false, they're constantly changing
From obnoxious noise to another obnoxious noise doesn't qualify.
>you mean an interesting mix of tightly written drums mixed with beautiful harmonies and sounds
This is the part where I think you're just trying to get a rise out of me or you managed to download another album mistagged as this.
>now name a non-meme album
1.8/10, made me type out this reply
>>61140163
there's a lot of shit
has something to do with "Queer Theory" and uses andean rhythms mixed with trap and shit
but more importantly it's good music.
>>61140192
Gabor Lazar and Mark Fell is the #1 footwork album on RYM for this year.
name something other than them or RP Boo and we'll talk.
otherwise you're being a contrarian mary.
>>61140213
>but more importantly it's good music.
pic related
Anyways, I'm not comparing it to regular footwork because it's supposed to be sound design-based shit. I'm not gonna compare that to stuff like Traxman. lol @ contrariness
>>61140295
>Anyways, I'm not comparing it to regular footwork because it's supposed to be sound design-based shit. I'm not gonna compare that to stuff like Traxman.
so then why did you bring it up? to try and look patrician?
I asked you for a better footwork album.
>>61140213
>Gabor Lazar and Mark Fell is the #1 footwork album on RYM for this year
Not the anon you're replying to but is it really lol? I mean, it's hardly a footwork album - they deconstruct certain aspects of the genre but...just lol. have you heard it?
>>61140338
I've heard it tons of times and it's one of my favorites of the year, but I still like Dark Energy more.
Any reply other than The Ark Work is wrong.
>>61140369
Explain why it is the worst.
holy shit so I listened to Unknown Tongues after several tracks from RP Boo
you're fucking smoking crack if you think Boo compares to JLin.
I'm pretty sure you're all memeing shit like the RP Boo because he didn't get P4k BNM and is well known for Footwork.
doesn't excuse mediocrity
>>61140554
you haven't heard much
>>61140554
arca's &&&&& mix was really interesting, but then he got too "experimental" and edgy and sexual
>>61140313
Here's a list with other releases I dug this year since you won't accept that one for a silly reason. Hopefully it will be useful to someone less retarded.
DJ Chap - Sunken City
DJ Clent - Last Bus to Lake Park
DJ Earl - Live Love Teklife
D.J.Fulltono - My Mind Beats Vol.02
DJ Manny - Trackaholic Vol. 2
DJ Mastercard - Corrupt Memories
DJ Paypal - Buy Now
DJ Paypal - Sold Out
DJ Rashad - 6613
DJ Spinn - Off That Loud
DJ Taye - Break It Down
Machinedrum - Movin' Forward: A Tribute to DJ Rashad
RP Boo - Classics Vol. 1
RP Boo - Fingers, Bank Pads & Shoe Prints
Uncle Texx - Dropout EP
Vatogato & Cakedog - DGM.VOL.1_VATOGATO&CAKEDOG
Various Artists - Tekk Djz Presents Jazz Meets Footwork
I listened to Willow Smith's new album yesterday. So that.
From a "more serious" artist? Cherry Bomb.
>>61140399
Explain why it's good. There is absolutely nothing of worth in that messy pile of shit.
>>61140689
>Here's a list with other releases I dug this year since you won't accept that one for a silly reason.
You yourself admitted:
>Anyways, I'm not comparing it to regular footwork because it's supposed to be sound design-based shit.
You only brought it up to try and get people to think you're "patrician" or something.
You take a long time and then come up with this list, which makes me suspicious especially since artists like Boo and Machinedrum are boring as shit compared to JLin.
>>61140753
https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/boldfaure/rating67101241
>>61140023
I was really excited for this before it came out.
I barely remember any tracks.
>>61140758
Sorry for having other things to do then argue with people on the Internet.
>You only brought it up to try and get people to think you're "patrician" or something.
No, it's because comparing it with more "stupid" releases isn't fair because people praised it for being shit like "an outlier in terms of minimalist abstraction and intensity." Comparing it to Teklife stuff is like comparing apples to oranges.
girl you know it's true
i can't believe /mu/ tricked me into listening to this pile of shit
>>61139775
>>61139951
>>61140023
>>61140070
these were all really bad too
>>61140898
How is JLin bad?
the one with the naked long haired man standing in the shrubbery
>>61140970
what's like being a pleb?
The History of Flesh is one of the best albums released this year
>>61140911
It's really good if you like obnoxious non-sequitor noises.
>>61140970
>HE ACTUALLY LISTENED TO IT
>>61141005
>obnoxious non-sequitor noises.
there's actually a pretty clear order to the development to the tracks if you listen to them
DJ Paypal did worse than jlin, but I wouldn't say any where the worse in even footwork alone. Honestly worst footwork album was made by me
>>61140970
this was quite bad, but i was surprised that it involved actual effort. i was expecting it to be some shitty ambient or "experimental" album that a /mu/tant made in an hour
>>61140554
>>61139775
shit taste, missing ears et al
>>61140970
>mfw he doesn't "get" it
Mileys dead pets
Trivium's new cd was garbage.
>>61141081
We've got a winner
>>61141080
it's garbage, son
From Which I Drink is my shit tho
>>61141081
>>61141115
not as bad as y'all make it out to be
not good either, but i'd still rather listen to it than bland trash like beach house
>>61141081
>>61141115
>>61141200
yeah, i smoke pot
>>61141200
you see, my issue with dead petz WAS with how bland and boring it was - a slog to get through. i would have preferred some more kooky, try-hard edgy nonsense (at least it might be entertaining), but most of it was stale dream pop and ballads that went on for 5 minutes yet showed their full hand in the first 2 minutes.
>>61140682
>sexual
what? how is mutant sexual?
>>61139873
I WAS BORN WITH A SNAKE LIKE WALK
>>61139933
>>61139775
I think both of these albums were pretty lackluster. Dark Energy just featured the same triplet or quasi-triplet rhythm over and over again.
>>61141343
Do you like footwork at all?
>>61141281
I wonder
https://vimeo.com/146106501
fucking teenagers not looking up anything about hte music they hear
>>61141343
>Dark Energy just featured the same triplet or quasi-triplet rhythm over and over again.
it's just a time signature lmao
>>61139775
The fact that pic related hasn't been posted yet is fucking insane
Also don't get the love some people have for that jlin album, its very mediocre watered down footwork that isn't worth talking about. It's not awful but it's definitely not any good either.
>>61141343
>Dark Energy just featured the same triplet or quasi-triplet rhythm over and over again
if you ever tried dancing you would realize that is the foundation of footwork
>>61141501
>its very mediocre watered down footwork that isn't worth talking about.
you mean RP Boo right?
>>61140554
Not awful, just mediocre with a few occasional good ideas in it. The pseudo-harpsichord tracks are fucking beautiful IMO.
>>61141357
Yeah I do, I think with RP Boo I have no investment in the history and legacy of footwork so when I hear an album that's pretty amateur yet has all the hallmarks of a "classic" footwork album I still see it as amateur.
Jlin though I think I really wanted to like it because of how much it had been hyped up, and then the endless triplets and songs with very little progression (especially from a genre that doesn't usually feature smooth, subtle progression, mostly hard cuts) just didn't really do much for me.
Again, maybe if I viewed this through a lens of footwork precedence it might be new and exciting, but as it stands I just can't get into either of them.
>>61141560
nah
>>61141560
>watered down
>literally created it
>>61141583
>>61141594
compare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a49p48EI3r4
to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZ-IuNCCjQw
and tell me which is watered down
>>61141560
Boo's album wasn't super watered down but it certainly did simplified footwork better than Dark Energy. It's a solid 7/10 while Dark Energy is a 4-5/10.
>>61141620
second track
is this even a question?
>>61141636
Dark Energy wasn't being simplified footwork, did you even listen to it?
>>61141620
>>61141636
>>61141579
>>61141560
don't compare an album to any of his singles. the album is watered down compared to other stuff he's done.
>>61141655
first track is like one drumline one sample that gets looped over sometimes
unknown tongues develops the multiple vocal samples over several drum/harmony lines
explain how the 2nd is watered down
>>61141670
no dude I totally agree with you, but people say his ALBUM is better than JLin's.
which is making them look like tryhards who can't like a BNM album
>>61141701
his album is
u never been to chicago ave u
>>61141659
I did, and that's why I said it wasn't "super simplified." It's proper footwork but I think it's definitely streamlined to a degree (and does it much better than Jlin did.) See >>61141670, like most dance music the singles actually used by DJs in their intended environment are going to be a better representation of the core of the genre than an album will be.
>>61141721
I've listened to his music which I guess you haven't.
seriously JLin's work is infinitely more interesting than Boo's trash album
there's so much more going on in meter shifts, harmony shifts, beat shifts, like everywhere
it's fucking incontestable, literally
>>61141673
first track is for actual footworking
second tracks are for faggot fashion shows
>>61141701
I think the albums are more a personal taste issue. JLin album tries to move outside normal footwork. RPBoo is more traditional sounding. Boo still has great tracks.
>>61141764
*track is
>>61141764
What does that have to do with the quality, shitposter?
>>61141785
you asked how it was watered down
the problem I have is you faggots say Lin's record is too boring and repetitive when Boo's record is INCREDIBLY fucking repetitive, with like no meter shifts and no changes in harmony or anything.
you're fucking hypocrites who have NO fucking clue what you're talking about
>>61141759
lad, i have. and it's dance music - idc about meter shifts and i can tell you from living in the footwork capital and being part of the scene that rp boo's is better for footworking. that's how i quantify it - it's not watered down.
but i mean for headphone music i suppose jlin is better or w/e but that's not what the genre is about 4me. your mileage may vary, i suppose.
>>61141785
What he's saying is that it's watered down from the core of the genre. The Jlin track (and pretty much any track off her album) is practically just an instrumental hip hop track that incorporates some footwork-esque elements. Rhythmically even that Mark Fell album someone was posting earlier is closer to footwork than Dark Energy is.
>>61141810
It's dance music? It's supposed to be repetitive and sustain a groove. Fuck, you autists have never been to a club I swear.
>>61141826
>rp boo's is better for footworking.
that doesn't make it better though
this is a really shit waltz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lFZf69B2gQ
but it's better than any of the throwaway generic waltzes by Johann Strauss
>>61141810
Dance music is supposed to be repetitive, which isn't the same thing as boring. You ain't know shit.
>>61141856
>>61141872
then why the fuck would you complain about JLin's being boring and repetitive?
fucking hypocrite
>>61141856
He doesn't understand that the records are made for battles.
>>61141882
I haven't said it was compositionally repetitive, I said that it was boring and obnoxious as fuck.
>>61141882
I didn't complain about that with Jlin - i have the opposite problem. The motifs shift too much for proper footworking.
>>61141915
Explain how Lin is boring, but Boo's record is not.
>>61141917
Then you should acknowledge that objectively, meaning outside of its genre (not saying without question), it is a great album.
>>61141670
hey
>>61141579
here
rec me best RP Boo
>>61141960
I don't even dislike Jlin's album, I just think RP Boo's is the better footwork joint.
>>61141980
Listen to this mix: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i86HZi-uqsY
>>61141620
neither one
RP Boo was a mentor to Jlin and a lot of the tracks on his album were recorded over a decade ago, you can't compare them without taking into account the era, historical context, and methods of creation.
they're both great but Jlin's album is better, RP Boo's new album was all of his old trax that weren't good enough for Legacy (one of the best footwork releases of all time)
>>61141992
Then we've been in agreement.
>>61141999
thanks
>>61142017
Okay, friend.
>>61142014
Yeah, this is a nice assessment. Context and locality is really important in dance, for some reason. It's why if you're outside of London/not part of the culture it's really hard to grasp Grime fully, for example.
>>61141960
>Explain how Lin is boring, but Boo's record is not.
that has already been done ITT 100 replies before yours
>seemingly random vaguely footwork-y trap/tribal drum beats and annoying synths for 40 mins
there's more emotion in techno DJ tools
The new Julia holter, Joanna Newsom and Grimes albums.
Literally trying to appeal to top 40 pop plebs. Very shameful.
stop posting boldfaure
>>61142234
https://rateyourmusic.com/collection/boldfaure/strm_h/Electronic/1
^ extreme dance musician patrician here ^
Commissions II and Garden of Delete.
Constant Pop
Prom King
Two City Blues
Tea time for those..etc..
Agent Intellect
Dealer
Expect Delays
Fading Frontier
>>61142197
That Julia Holter album would have been fantastic if it had more tracks like Lucette Stranded on the Island or Vasquez instead of Feel You and Silhouette.
>>61142153
Show me where it has
>>61142249
I don't see this is relevant to the points I have raised.
You guys just hate discussing music I guess
>>61142266
>garden of delete
>bad
lopatin really hasn't put out a bad album, all his post-rifts albums under the 0pn moniker are 9-10/10s
>>61142234
>>61142249
CRINGE
>>61142249
>>61142329
>>61142357
on top of that I don't even have hte ratings for them, so why do you care?
like how old are you lmao
>>61142329
What is your favorite dance label? Have you ever been to a club?
100% pure trash
Priest - s/t
The blandest and driest synthpop I've ever heard.
>>61142389
None of this has anything to do with the music we are discussing, please stay on topic.
If you don't know how to talk about music there's always /bleep/ for you.
>>61142431
backpedaling of the year medal goes to this post
>>61142431
dance culture is entirely relevant to dance music, hence why you couldn't understand why people in the footwork scene preferred rp boo's. it's music that's made for clubs and battles and big soundsystems - it's not like "idm" or more experimental techno or ambient which is for headphone listening.
>>61142458
I haven't backpedalled, that would be you. If you can't discuss the music you are freeto Shitpost elsewhere
>>61142491
but see that's the thing, I understand why they prefer RP Boo's when they say it's better for footworking.
I've been objecting to the people who say that the music JLin makes is inferior to RP Boo's, and have been trying to get a straight answer about this the entire thread. with no real answer.
instead they shitpost >>61142249
>>61142357
>>61142389
>>61142458
and backpedal to avoid the fact that Boo's music is less interesting, even though they CLAIM JLin's is.
>>61142491
>>61142529
likewise I have never made any arguments about me knowing more about the culture of Chicago and the footwork scene. I know better than that. I've been trying to discuss the music on these records but people are too fucking childish here to do that.
it's just so annoying.
Daily reminder that there have been way better ""experimental"" footwork albums released this year (The Neurobiology Of Moral Decision for example)
the only reason why Dark Energy is so hyped/praised is because it was made by a black woman
>>61141023
Thanks for the tip. hadn't tried listening
>>61142592
daily reminder that's an RYM meme album
>>61142599
np!
>>61142431
>>61142641
>RYM meme album
;^)
>>61142575
>>61142529
I get what you mean, but for many people the two can't be divorced. So you think that the Jlin album is better in general (while the RP Boo is the better Footworking album) - but that in ITSELF is why many people consider the music RP Boo makes to be superior to Jlin's. How well it works in context is how many of these people quantify their taste and that's not "wrong" (neither is yours) just a different perspective, y'know? So for you, while the music maybe be more interesting or complex to just listen to in a more cerebral fashion, but that's totally irrelevant for others who don't listen to music out of its intended setting.
It's like, I think most Berghain style techno is totally dull at home, but on a banging soundsystem on a club it's fucking untouchable - and that's how I personally judge the value of club music.
>>61142197
>Julia
>Bad
Newsom was good too. I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
>>61142712
Agreed.
>>61142724
I mean it's important to separate things and just think objectively sometimes
like I've been thinking this for Fallout 4 recently. as a Fallout game it's garbage, like a 4/10. but when you treat it as just a fun 2015 game it's like an 8/10.
I don't think they're that mixed together
>>61142806
But it's like, what is objectivity with club music? The subs and mids in Dubstep are designed for a much bigger sound system - so is it fair to judge it while listening to it on laptop speakers? Well, yeah it is, but I think you're missing a very large part of the appeal and pertinent "information" when you do that. I guess I just have a different viewpoint when it comes to dance music as I think separation kind of misses the point of club music's aim. I'm not sure the Fallout comparison is exactly right with what I'm trying to say - It'd be more like not playing on it's intended platform.
That Kode9 album was a fucking joke, wasn't it? Otherwise it's going to launch a new microgenre, goofstep.
>>61140070
I enjoyed the shit out of this even though it's complete garbage. Unlock the Swag and Throw Sum Mo are amazingly terrible but too memorable to forget
>>61142414
agreed, the medieval times fanfare (so edgy and unexpected) and rapping ("Quetzalcoatl", yuck) make it truly awful
>>61140682
>but then he got too "experimental" and edgy and sexual
Why is this bad?
>>61140781
What a fucking awful jumble of words and unwarranted comparisons. Get taste.
>>61139873
How does boring=worst? It wasn't downright bad, it was just bland.
>>61142266
But anon, GoD is aoty
>>61139775
the wire should be renamed the cuckhold after this year's list. it's fucking pathetic. a bunch of safe popular experimental releases and whatever anyone black released. if both, then aoty
>>61142266
agent intellect and garden of delete are pretty good desu
>>61141501
honestly i wont believe any1 saying theres worse 2015 album then dis 1 cuz its just as shit as every1 says it is
Just kinda disappointed in this one
>>61140869
this album sucked wanglers.
aka: the downfall of sonny moore
>>61144356
forgot the picture
>>61140898
>bait
>>61140898
>>61140554
>>61139951
>>61140023
>>61141501
>>61142712
Seconding these. Also, adding those two Beach House albums and especially pic related.
>>61144301
listen to it again in a few weeks, i didnt like it and first and now its one of my favourites of the year
>>61144560
Wasn't that last year?
Also, I agree that Depression Cherry is easily worst album of the year.
>>61143768
Because it's gimmick and doesn't improve the quality of the music whatsoever. Sure, he can make some neat sounds now and again, but those mean nothing when he can't compile a decent song with them. Also, his entire image just reeks of basic, Rammstein-tier provocation. Overall, he should've stopped after &&&&&& and went out as a mysterious, cult beatmaker instead of petering out after everyone realizes what a one trick pony he is.
>>61144621
Oh, I misread the thread. I thought he said worst album I heard this year, not worst album of the year. The other albums still stand though.
>>61142712
I've tried listening to a couple of tracks from this, but everything I've heard, especially the promo trailer thing on YouTube, sounds really insincere and tacky. Production isn't bad, but it's very tame and safe.
>>61144187
how long until you graduate high school?
>>61144025
hmmmmm seems you didn't read it
>>61144990
2011
Everything Everything - Get to Heaven
>>61144576
Will do brother
I really tried to like, but it's just so god damn bad
>>61142712
this
>>61145180
why was this even spammed so much
>>61145225
B A D T A S T E
