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lets get a Progressive Rock general going lads. What has everyone been digging recently? I've been really digging the live material from King Crimson's 1972-1974 lineup recently. Their performance of 21st Century Schizoid Man in particular is really impressive. What about y'all?
reminder that the dear hunter sound like some shitty 'pump up' music like mumford and sons
>>61118535
Can we ever just chill and talk about the music without being memers?
>>61118516
There's a prog thread with 100 replies already but ok
Wht does /mu/ think fo this guy
>>61118549
im talking about music what more do you want
>>61118549
Hmm. Tool Steve Wilson Mariachi Slipknot.
Maybe with them all out and said we can move on.
Prog AOTY.
>>61118727
for mumford and sons fans
>>61118727
Prog album of the year goes to Leprous. No shadow of a doubt.
>>61118563
Good guitarist, writer and guy, but his fanbase that say he is jazz are insufferable.
>>61118774
There's no banjo tho
>>61118817
i wouldnt call it prog anyway, i wouldnt even call it nu-prog or post-prog
i dont know what to call it
>>61118516
Prog was meh this year imo. What's everyone else's prog AOTY? I can't say I really have one desu
>>61118852
As much as I hate using "indie" as a genre, it's indie prog.
>>61118951
HCE. Not because it was particularly good, because the rest of the year's releases weren't.
Neo prog is not for me.
What is some good ELP ? Tarkus is the only thing i've listened from them, and besides the title track it's pretty empty.
>>61118999
that definitely makes sense here
by the way im fucking with you i like the album
>>61119028
The debut and Brain Salad Surgery.
>>61118774
The guy has a similar voice, but the music is nothing alike.
>>61118727
Coheed for hipsters
>>61118951
I thought it was a decent year
>>61118516
Albums I've been jamming out to lately
>You Can't Do That On Stage Anymore Vol. 2 - Zappa
>Coma Ecliptic - BTBAM
>Lather - Zappa
>In A Glass House - Gentle Giant
>The Polite Force - Egg
>>61118814
>Leprous
Their last album was so boring though, other than Rewind. They have this tendency to drag on their songs way longer than they need to be, even back during Tall Poppy Syndrome (the intro to White is waaaay too long imho)
Listened to this recently, easily a 10/10. Never thought prog and female vocals could go so well together, any recs?
>>61119714
Check out Thy Catafalque - Sgurr. Came out this year,avant metal. Good album
Never EVER
>>61120101
My nigga.
>>61120101
Have you listened to Renaissance's other albums?
I liked Turn of the Card.
>>61120101
>any recs?
Ashes Are Burning has her best vocal efforts
>>61120130
Meant to add it to that chart, that list is outdated
>>61119028
trilogy is pretty gud too
Post-Discipline King Crimson and 80s Genesis have been growing a lot on me all of a sudden, been listening to pic related and Beat and I'm actually enjoying them quite a lot.
>>61119714
I like the label atmoprog, are there are any other albums/artists that you think would fit? I enjoy pink floyd and riverside, don't know any others I would call atmoprog
>>61120336
Prog with lot of ambient sections? Some Devin Townsend or early Porcupine Tree could fit into that
Actually, check more bands under second section of this chart, like Airbag, Nosound, Anathema and Gazpacho
>>61120315
HE'S A MAAAAAAAAAAAN OF OUR TIMES
>>61120381
double recommending gazpacho
>>61120101
karnataka is great female prog with some celtic influences
>>61118951
pic related
>>61120336
airbag and gazpacho
>>61120437
The More I listen to Molok the more I start to think it's their third weakest behind When Earth Lets Go and Bravo
>>61120487
I notice more subtlety every time I listen to it. just earlier i noticed a new sound behind the clockwork transition of the first song. its definitely top 3 for me.
>>61120395
AND IN THE BEATING OF THE HEART
THERE IS ANOTHER BEATING HEART
I can't get enough of this album lately.
Also Caravan's In the Land of Grey and Pink
Who /marillion/ here
>>61120315
you should listen 80's rush if you like new-wave prog, signals in particular
>>61120395
>>61120633
Mike Rutherford seems to hate this song, I don't get why desu
>>61120745
I did, Rush is actually the one prog band I thought was consistently good even during the 80s, never came to hate their stuff from that era like I did with KC and Genesis.
>>61120660
In my top 5 albums ever. Just perfection.
Anyone excited for the new Dream Theater? It's a concept album.
>>61120868
He formed Mike and The Mechanics, his opinion on anything is worthless.
>>61121303
>tfw you just don't have the time for music anymore
>>61121303
This song sounds like their early 90s stuff more than their late-00s/early 10s stuff.
This is a good thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CdPn1mCmqoE
>>61121360
It's very images and words-ish. This is a good thing indeed, they're finally going back to progrock after being led down the buttmetal path for years by Porntoy.
Listening to this right now.
This and Wind & Wuthering are excellent winter albums desu
I think the new Intervals is prog, whatever it is I like it.
>>61121504
Pretty underrated album. Down and Out, Undertow, Ballad of Big, Snowbound, Burning Rope and The Lady Lies are fucking GOAT, the other tracks are nice enough except Follow You Follow Me and Scenes From a Night's Dream.
>>61121554
Boring instrumental djent, there's hundred bands like them
>>61121866
>s-stop liking what I don't like
>>61121866
But it's one guy.
>>61121876
I thought their last album with vocalist was pretty decent to be honest
Most instrumental djent just bores me
>>61121598
I love Scenes dude what are you on about
>>61121935
It's usually the track I skip, in my ATTWT tracklist here I even replaced it with The Day the Light Went Out.
>>61122003
The groove is so fun tho
>>61119028
Pretty much everything except Love Beach
You should still jam Love Beach for a good laugh
>>61120101
Prologue and Novella are my favorite.
This is a really good concert of theirs
https://youtu.be/5B578LuXbPI
>>61120315
Duke is god-tier
Trespass through Duke are god-tier
Duke's travels is one of Phil's greatest drumming showcases.
https://youtu.be/213gyfWI_Yg
>>61120660
Have you tried Rain Dances?
It took a while but I think it's on par with Mirage and Moonmadness
>>61122128
>mama is the best genesis song
>>61120315
>post Discipline Crimson
>Phil Collins Genesis
It's like you're actively trying to be a pleb
>>61122155
The 1st half of that album I love
Only really love Silver Rainbow from side B
Can't call the whole album god-tier
Same with Abacab
Side A is gold.
Get rid of Who Dunnit? and Another Record and it would be perfect
>>61122201
go back to prog archives
>>61118516
Who was the real talent behind the band?
>>61122267
All of the above
https://mega.nz/#F!XhJVhARI!rz3BHnmA5CCmYvQD726hwg
Just in case people need this
>>61122267
Phil had the best voice, best songs, best drums
>>61122278
Wow you are great man
>>61122267
Honestly, all three of them contributed, but the one who actually wrote most of Genesis' material is Tony Banks.
He was also the one who had them going all pop and stuff, but Phil got blamed for that because he was the frontman.
>>61122320
I plan to start ripping mp3s from all of my vinyls and putting them on mega.
Gonna make a MEGA mega prog dump.
>>61122348
Genesis was as good as it was because of Tony.
Especially because he's a pompous twat control freak.
The new documentary shows this very clearly.
Still love him though
>>61122395
Yeah, he was kind of a dick, but I won't deny his keyboard playing and the stuff he wrote for Genesis is god fucking tier. Too bad he couldn't find a way to get along with Hackett after all.
Rate my stuff
>>61122227
>Mama - That's All - Home by the Sea - Second Home by the Sea
Fuck me, you're right. That's some top tier prog-pop.
>>61120723
That album is great.
I like the Hogarth era need to listen to it more.
>>61122599
They're CDs.......
Great albums though
Online or local store?
>>61123212
Local Store
I got that ELP album as free deal
>>61123231
That's pretty dope
I don't know a lot of stores that are into cool deals like that
Also have this if anyone is interested
Egg is god-tier prog
https://mega.nz/#F!29on2ThY!eeICN4vsTJU79CDcSzP8UQ
I've been super into Van see Graaf lately. I absolutely HATED pawn hearts when I first listened to it, but I gave it a couple more tries and I'm so glad it clicked
>>61122149
One of these days I'll get an early night is like their best song ever
>>61123689
Ugh *Van der Graaf
Fucking auto correct
>>61123705
Metrognome might be my favorite off the album
Not sure though
I love Richard Sinclair's
>>61123781
voice
goddamnit
OI YOU WANKAHS HAVIN A PROG THREAD AYE?
>>61124191
>you'll never get to see Peter Gabriel roleplay live ft. Genesis
progressive rock is shit
>>61125158
you either find all of it cheesy or you aren't listening to good prog
>>61125194
hes a meme trip ignore him
>>61125145
>iktf
>>61125158
Your head is shit.
>>61125145
Well, if he did, at least he wouldn't have to wear an old man costume for the final part of The Musical Box anymore.
Not trying to start shit, but I genuinely believe that everyone who likes Steven Wilson should kill themselves.
>>61125158
filtered
this is a good album.
>>61125264
You first
>>61125264
Everyone who likes nu-prog should kill themselves
>>61125264
You should kill yourself instead
>>61125264
>>61125297
It amazes me how one musician can get so much acclaim and so much hate
>>61125297
>le classic prog is only good prog
Go away dad
>>61125326
He looks like a brony.
>>61125326
Kanye West of prog, except he's white
>>61125481
And talented.
>>61125493
I don't even like Kanye, but he's a hundred times more talented than Wilson.
>>61120054
glad to see i'm not the only person underwhelmed by them. how the fuck are they considered avant-garde anyways?
rip unexpect you were p cool
>>61125481
>black man listens to King Crimson
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=L53gjP-TtGE
>white man listens to King Crimson
https://youtu.be/E3MpGBwGdVk
Well
>>61120054
>>61125594
Leprous went from Spork core to atmoshit
>>61120437
So i liked molok, what should i listen to next? Im not well versed in neo prog but gazpacho seems promising.
>>61125547
Lmao is this bait
>>61125648
Night and Tick Tock are considered best
>>61125610
I sincerely hope you aren't implying that the Steven Wilson video is better.
The funny thing is that Power is a far more progressive piece of music than that utterly generic and toothless piece of wank.
>>61125633
Third Law has a really badass main riff and i like the synth on The Price. people are like "oh the second half is way better" but it just ends up sounding like a more morose tool
>>61125658
kanye is a really great producer honestly
>>61125264
Why?
>>61125354
I swear classic prog purists are the fucking worst. Even when older prog bands change their sound to adapt to new decades' tendencies while keeping at least some of their prog sound, they get shat on because it's not muh classic symphonic prog.
>>61125675
>kanye is a really great producer honestly
So is Wilson
>>61125672
Ok this has to be bait
All raptards should get the fuck off this board
>>61125698
Not really, he just makes everything sound as polished and devoid of personality as possible.
reminder that this is the average person that hates steven wilson
"For this new album, I wanted to focus on strong rhythmic and melodic motives within the framework of relatively basic song structures," Ihsahn says. "Though I've aimed to make each track have a strong individual identity, 'Mass Darkness' represents much of the album's attitude, including a big sing-along chorus strengthened by Matt Heafy!"
>Matt Heafy
ihsahn pls
>>61125698
wilson makes stuff sound like a million bucks, don't get me wrong, but he doesn't step out of his comfort zone
>>61125728
That's a legitimate aesthetic that fit Porcupine Tree's sound perfectly, though I'm not a fan of his solo work.
>>61125716
Please explain how that Steven Wilson song breaks new ground in any genre of music. That's right, you can't.
>>61125675
Leprous sounds nothing like Tool wtf
>>61125728
I can parrot Fantano too
>>61125739
epic strawman my friend, simply epic
>>61125765
>Leprous sounds nothing like Tool wtf
their vocalist is very different but the riffs and rhythms have the same tendency of staying roughly the same throughout a piece and just varying through volume and distortion levels
Steven Wilson is truly the most polarising musician on this board, every time he is mentioned there is either a good interesting discussion or massive shitstorm
>>61125765
>I can parrot Fantano too
I have literally no idea what Fantano's views of Steven Wilson are. How about you come up with an actual argument?
>>61125758
>everything needs to be completely original to be good
Kek you are one of those retards
Just because Kanye does slightly different rap music doesn't mean he is good
>>61125728
>personality
I hope you're just trying to sound smart and don't actually believe this means anything.
>>61125824
What's your argument? That all rock music needs to sound raw as fuck like it was recorded in Albini's bathroom?
soooo, anyone likes Rush or?
>>61125878
What's with their singers voice?
>>61125878
What's the best Rush album?
>>61125899
It's just high.
Ok I'm tired of this
People on /mu/ constantly complain about Tool and Steven Wilson fanboys, but I find their haters equally annoying
Currently listening to this, it's really unique
>>61125937
Hemispheres.
>>61125672
>wank
Almost everyone who uses this term as a criticism has no idea what he is talking about
This is really underrated band
>>61125985
Yes but you're a braindead Steven Wilson fan, so you would think that.
>>61126076
You only keep proving my point
>>61126076
Go listen to your twinkly indie faggot
>>61125937
Grace under pressure is my fave, but i think moving pictures is the best, mainly because there is not a single weak moment in there
>>61125899
It's just high, like loads of other tenor vocalists, like jon anderson, robert plant, rob halford etc
>>61125789
>wilson haters cant even get their logical fallacies right
that was an ad hominem you fucking idiot
How does Steven Wilson manage to consistently make albums that sound less modern, experimental and exciting than stuff which came out in the early seventies?
You could literally send his music back in time to 1971 and people would laugh at it for being a third-rate prog imitator with nothing original or interesting to contribute to the genre.
>>61126358
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iqv7NcC7TQE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M08xwotJrT4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlwUwMgRd0I
>this somehow sounds like 1971 to you
Not my problem you don't have ears senpai
>>61126451
No, as I said it sounds far less interesting than music from the early 70s. Put it up against Tago Mago, Lark's Tounges In Aspic, or even something like Who's Next, and it sounds laughably dated.
>>61126618
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JbqSalBXLI
You might like IEM
>>61126264
Most underrated album of all time, and probably my favorite album in general, right next to Pink Moon
Magenta - Wondrous Stories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2EeF59ObeE
>>61125663
Thanks a bunch
>>61125610
to be fair thats a good stevie song and a mediocre kanye song. I respect wilson a bit more since kanye pretty much stopped writing anything himself and just brought in big name producers and ghost writers to achieve his vision after '08.
>>61120437
>>61120381
My version of this chart didn't have this section
Thanks a lot guys, will check everything out
This is the greatest prog album of all time. Its a complete masterpiece with its slightly dated corniness being its only flaw. Its beautiful, brilliant, melodious, and technical all in one.
>>61125648
What parts did you like? Night, March of Ghosts and Demon are great places to start.
>>61120336
tago mago has its ambient moments
this is just ~okay~
>>61126358
He king of sounds like Emerson Lake and Palmer, they really suck IMO
>>61119028
They suck, Brain Salad Surgery is worse than Tarkus. Pictures at an Exhibition is pretty good, other than that I'd pass on them.
>>61128067
>>61127944
Fuck off, ELP are great.
>>61128204
>>61128232
I'm serious. I listened to Tarkus expecting it to be on CttE or COTCK level but it was technical wankery at best. playing cliche jazz riffs and scales on dated keyboard sounds is retarded. Pictures at an Exhibition is pretty good though. Its like they weren't even trying on Brain Salad Surgery
>>61128509
>Complaining about "technical wankery" in a prog thread
>cliche jazz
>song from the 70's sounds dated
>weren't even trying on Brain Salad Surgery
Yeah, bait harder, mermerino
>>61128593
by "techincal wankery" I meant they were slamming their fingers on the keys/string without having any substance. They were playing unoriginal music. Focus did everything ELP did and much more all with better execution and writing. Yes sounds dated and cheesy but they had the writing ability/chops to make it sound good. Tarkus was a mess and Brain salad surgery is as hectic as it sounds. Pictures and an Exhibition is one of my favorite prog albums, Tarkus is easily my least favorite.
>>61127733
I liked the dynamics and mixing of it all i guess. The guitar and strings were more subtle and downplayed to let the keys dominate or lead the melody, The drumming was cool. It was completely different than a lot of 70's prog imitators in approach which was refreshing. Sorry for the late response
>>61128204
>>61128232
>>61128593
but hes right
>>61128509
ITCOTCK is easily one of King Crimson's most boring albums
>>61128840
and its still much better than Tarkus.
Personally I hold ITCOTCK in high regard but I don't really compare it to other prog, it just doesnt have the same feel as most prog to me. In any case, I think everything King Crimson has done is better than Tarkus. I'm have always been perplexed at how Tarkus was always considered a top 5 (or top 3) prog album. Also, do you mean that ITCOTCK is boring, or one of King Crimson's most boring? The first one I wont' argue against but to say ITCOTCK is boring is ridiculous.
>>61126055
Oh wow. Haven't listened to this band for years. You should check out Cold light of Monday, their earlier album.
Prog thread? Oh hey, big question. Where's the good 80s jazz-rock and prog? With the exception of Low Flying Aircraft's s/t album (it had Bill Bruford on it), my experience with 80s prog has been MISERABLE. So if anyone knows any from this period that has the same energy as 70s prog, but also shows signs of growth from then, a huge thanks from me in advance.
>>61127944
ELP will always hold a special place in my heart for the last 3 songs off the 1st side of Trilogy, but yeah their shit does NOT age well
>>61131148
I'm assuming you've already heard 80s King Crimson?
>>61131148
>>61131148
Like 80s specific bands? I could waste a post by saying "post Discipline King Crimson" or that one supertramp album.
>>61131459
I've heard King Crimson's first three or four albums and grew too bored to continue. If there's something they did in the 80s you feel is worthwhile, I'll listen to it and give them another chance.
>>61131492
They can be bands that continued to be great even into the 80s or bands that sprouted up in that time and did strong stuff. Anything that isn't slow ballads of poetic lyrics and unimaginative synth use.
>>61131586
They completely changed their sound in the 80s. Give Discipline a listen
>>61131586
King Crimson's sound is completely different for Discipline. Rush has some good 80s stuff, moving pictures. Peter Gabriel. Yes is hit or miss, their best stuff was definiteyl in the early 70s, but they have some decent 80s albums, like 90125. Holger Czukay. The Wake by IQ is good.
>>61122348
What the fuck, Tony was the one that wanted to make commercial music. Peter was obviously the genius of the group. Banks is just an underrated keyboard player.
>>61131586
>he stopped before Lark's Tongue in Aspic
You stopped before they became amazing again anon.
>>61131725
In The Court through Islands is really great imo
Dude this is the good stuff. All bout that Roine!
>>61131586
>>61131725
It didn't occur to me that Lark's Tongue in Aspic wasn't one of the first 4 albums, he (or you, whatever) DEFINITELY needs to listen to it. Its arguably KC's best (my favorite is still the debut).
>>61131738
>>61131586
The problem is that basically every release until Lark's Tongue in Aspic is an acquired taste, so going chronologically is a really, really bad idea. The Lark's Tongue in Aspic is when the group finally had an almost stable roster for 3 albums and put out some amazing stuff, on par imo with ITCOTK again.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qqkr7vjiPGg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FNiK73zqm4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vy3UiXb2uDQ
And as you know, Red is posted on here almost as much as ITCOTCK. Lark's Tongue in Aspic Pt. 2 is pretty much a prog STANDARD.
>>61131745
I hate his voice. Flower Kings makes me want to puke.
>>61125985
Wank is when you aren't even trying to create good music with your talents anymore, you're just showing off and the audience isn't a fan. Imagine a guitar solo that goes on for 15 minutes as part of an originally 5 minute song. Wank is when the instrumentation goes too far.
>>61131864
not true! best prog lyrics out there
>>61131148
Solaris' Martian Chronicles is awesome
Bacamarte goes pretty hard, has great guitar work
the Japanese 80s scene is pretty great, especially Gerard, Kenso, Outer Limits and... whatever Motoi Sakuraba's band was. and Bi Kyo Ran are good despite being KC clones
Los Jaivas put out some good 80s stuff
lots of zeuhl and avantshit during that time period too, like Present, Thinking Plague and Shub-Niggurath
idk maybe Cassiber will be your thing? more free jazz/noise than prog but it's there
>>61131782
>>61131803
Fair enough. Oh yeah, if it helps, here's my taste in prog, the stuff I found to be cream-of-the-crop material. A lot of thumpin high-energy stuff, with the occasional texture-rich smoother, mellow sounds. Note that everything listed is almost entirely instrumental.
Hiro Yanagida- Milk Time (1970)
Jukka Tolonen- Tolonen! (1971)
Pekka Pohjola- Pihkasilmä Kaarnakorva (1972)
Henry Cow- The Henry Cow Legend (1973)
Yonin Bayashi- Ishoku-Sokuhatsu (1974)
Arti & Mestieri- Tilt (1974)
Quiet Sun- Mainstream (1975)
Heldon- Heldon II: Allez Teia (1975)
Focus- Ship of Memories (1976)
Happy The Man- s/t (1977)
National Health- s/t (1978)
Dixie Dregs- What If (1978)
Igra Staklenih Perli- Vrt Svetlosti (1980)
>>61132251
Pretty esoteric, if not the artist, then the album by said artist. I'm not sure you're gonna find what you're looking for from the 80s at this time of day. At best I could offer you some 70s stuff along those lines but it really looks like you've got your bases covered assuming you listened to a fair amount in between. What do you think of Mahavishnu? If I recall correctly there was a couple of bands that were very similar but i gotta go back into my catalog to remember their names.
my top 10
Hiro Yanagida- Milk Time (1970)
Jukka Tolonen- Tolonen! (1971)
Pekka Pohjola- Pihkasilmä Kaarnakorva (1972)
Henry Cow- The Henry Cow Legend (1973)
Yonin Bayashi- Ishoku-Sokuhatsu (1974)
Arti & Mestieri- Tilt (1974)
Quiet Sun- Mainstream (1975)
Heldon- Heldon II: Allez Teia (1975)
Focus- Ship of Memories (1976)
Happy The Man- s/t (1977)
National Health- s/t (1978)
Dixie Dregs- What If (1978)
Igra Staklenih Perli- Vrt Svetlosti (1980)
>>61132369
>>61132251
*couple of 80s bands that were very similar*
they were a little more driving, a little less technical, and a bit slower than birds of fire
>>61132251
not familiar with some of those, completely forgot about asian prog desu, that being said, a lot of what you're looking for was pretty much dead by the time the 80s rolled around. I personally don't know any similar artists, even with the caveat that they entered the 80s with different sound
there may be some good stuff in this list
https://rateyourmusic.com/list/daspmusik/great_jazzrock__zeuhl__avant_prog_and_fusion/
>>61132369
Mahavishnu Orchestra was underwhelming for me. I put down two tracks that I liked (Awakening, Open Country Joy) and I need to listen to them again to make sure they hold up. I will say that I got a huge kick out of John McLaughlin's work with Shakti. I'm looking for more classical indian/prog fusions that could potentially have an excellent blend of prog rock's technicality with the textures and smooth/rough rollercoaster sometimes found in indian classical in those long flute/sitar solos they have.
>>61132481
Nuts. Worth a shot.
>>61132535
There's some stuff on here I haven't listened to, guess I'll have to put those in my queue. That being said, I was really put off of zeuhl after listening to Magma.
>>61121303
Does James Labrie ruin everything they've ever done besides instrumentals in anyone else's opinion? I find his voice intolerable as fuck
Wow surprised this thread is still alive
>>61132706
same, i like their instrumentals
i think other bands do DT-style instrumentals better though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sZYANN5JDiE
>>61131148
I have soft spot for neo prog bands like Marillion, and Misplaced Childhood is one of my favourite albums ever, but that's because I can tolerate horrible aesthetics, 80s production and heavy use of keyboards
But the songwriting and lyrics are absolutely fantastic
>>61131745
Everything I dislike about modern prog, how can people shittalk Steven Wilson when this exists?
>>61132535
theres only so many times that i can listen to mediocre avant-prog albums before i want to never listen to music again
>>61132781
> but that's because I can tolerate horrible aesthetics, 80s production and heavy use of keyboards
what a fucking trooper
there are so many bands that fall under that category whilst also having good songwriting (prog or not) that I just can't listen too, it would really increase the volume of listening material if I could do what you do
>>61132806
i know that feel but for me it's generic prog metal. it's enervating.
i've never gotten into the avant-prog zone that makes stuff like Rational Diet more than possibly bearable, but there's good stuff in the genre and nothing in that list seems too up its own ass. hoyry-kone is actually pretty fun, for example
>>61132806
I know, right? Holy shit. There was those fuckin days where I listened to like ten dull prog albums in a row and I'm like "okay, surely the next one HAS to be better, I couldn't be unlucky enough to have picked eleven straight shit ones". And then it starts with that slow, symphonic piano or organ and it's like "oh fuck, yes it can" and I'm locked in for another forty minutes of misery. Like THIS thing. I got hosed. According to discogs, it said prog rock/electronic. I was expecting some groovin prog-rock with the 70s electronic efforts and I was ready to get lost in dreamland. Instead I got dull synth shit.
>>61132870
i hate it when a cover's quality is inversely proportional to that of the album
>people call Steven Wilson's usic boring wank when his guitarist is Guthrie fucking Govan
>>61132806
>>61132837
I hate people who think avant-prog is only good genre of prog, they are even worse than dadprog fags
Okay, taking a random chance here, hope it's good. Please.
>>61132939
augh i know. they tend to be very smug and unwelcoming
>>61132916
Just listen to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U75g2mDTXtA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLXpEt42W-8
Protest the Hero!
>>61133398
Are ok
>>61133082
This wasn't really rock-ish at all, but it made for some solid jazz-fusion listening. 4 out of 8 tracks I liked, so that's not bad.
Thoughts on them?
Well I guess no one is here
>tfw got to see Hackett for the first time this ever 2 months ago
>tfw it will be the closest I will ever get to seeing classic Genesis
Don't want to make the cliched 'born in the wrong generation' comment, but god damn it just hurts that I will never see classic line up Genesis ever... Regardless, Hackett was absolutely stellar so I can't complain.
>>61134634
Did you like his new solo album?
His Genesis Revisited work is great
Is there better modern symphonic prog band than Echolyn? only big Big Train and Beardfish come close
>>61134698
Its ok, doesn't hold a candle to his albums immediately post genesis though. His older work certainly went down better a great deal more than his newer stuff did with the audience, myself included.
Why
>>61119714
BTBAM Metalcore -_-.
Final bump
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwtHJW5PoGw
Italian prog = english prog > the rest
>>61136181
Swedish prog is great too
Dutch and Finnish prog seems pretty solid, too.
>>61137814
Frog.
>>61133452
This is my favorite album by them. The first three are similar, ADHD is more different. Didn't think much of the last one, but I'm glad they changed direction a bit. Overall I think they are a good band, can make some albums that really take you to another place.I am excited for what they might release in the future
>>61122599
Listen to Fragile and Brave and throw all other CD's away.
>>61125937
Try Permanent Waves. If you don't like Freewill I will come to your house and cut you!
>>61127708
>slightly dated corniness
It's godlike you fucking piece of shit.
>>61140517
I agree, its probbly my favorite album, but lets not pretend Yes isn't corny.
>>61141517
they aren't that corny, at least not in my mind. to me, they're just magical. I think the lyrics are esoteric and fitting enough to avoid sounding corny.
>>61122201
"I'll take what utter plebeians say for 1000, Alex."
I still have mixed feelings for Porcupine Tree, on one hand I really loved them when I was 16-20 and dipping deeper into modern prog/prog metal, but on the other hand Steve Wilson really doesn't do himself any favours by dropping a really really shit lyric into a great track that pulls you straight out of the experience.
Like, I still listen to Trains every now and again and marvel at how a guy who can write something that perfect can write some absolutely horrific lines that flat out don't work.
Also Fear of a Blank Planet doesn't have the same 'edge' to it when you're in your mid 20s and don't have that rebellious teenage angst anymore, especially when you see friends you knew as a kid stay in that immature space, getting high all the time and doing nothing but playing video games and shitposting on the internet.
>>61141546
alright, to be fair, Close to the Edge isn't lyrically corny like a lot of other Yes albums, but it does sound a tiny bit dated. Its still the most beautiful prog album ever, if not the most beautiful album ever. All that being said, there is a ton of corny prog, and Yes isn't even close to the worst of it.
>>61141991
Indeed. I always branch out to new prog that I haven't heard before, and I always find new bands that I like, but I always end up coming back to Yes (and King Crimson) in the end. Nothing else has been able to do what they do for me.
>listened to almost everything
>desperate for more prog
>browse through newprogreleases, it's all bedroom-tier shit that sounds like it was made in audacity, or it's metal
>bandcamp, it's all fucking post-rock, math-rock, or more post-rock, and metal
>soundcloud, they're not even prog to begin with, or it's metal
>it's all shit
Save me from the nothing I've become
>>61141517
Yes corny? Maybe Rush and Camel a bit but Yes? Nah
>>61142081
This is just a hunch, but I really think you'd like Cardiacs - Sing to God.
I don't know what makes me think that, but a few months ago I wasn't feeling like prog anymore and just gave that a blast and it was all I played for a good few weeks.
It even gave me the motivation to clear out my backlog.
>>61142081
Have you heard this or Mew? They're the best modern Prog besides TMV i m o
>>61142138
For the record, if you like that you might like Osaka Punch.
Maybe I'm overeacting because they're the best band by far to play at my local bar, but they are remarkably fun even though they're not entirely prog.
>>61142118
camel arent corny
>>61142220
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZfGIi2iz5k
This is pretty neat
Cool video too
>>61142118
I like Yes better than both those bands, but I feel like Yes writes cheesier compositions. I don't really remember that many Rush or Camel lyrics, so i can't comment on the comparison. I think specifically they end a lot of their musical phrasing with cliche's from lullabies or something. You can just ignore me though.
>>61142261
My perspective doesn't really lend itself to finding things like Yes lyrics corny
For some reason I can't stand the majority of 80s prog because the synth sounds are fucking horrible and there's so many bands that completely forgot how to properly mix their records.
This has probably the worst sounding synths I have ever heard, which is insane when you consider what they did in the 70s.
>>61131864
I hate Morse's voice but Roine is at least unique.
>>61132804
To be honest, out of the countless shit bands I've listened to, they can at least write a basic melody. It's all very non-experimental simple music, just arranged in long form. IMO, if you're gonna go the ubercheese route, that's how you do it. Hell I've listened to a lot of new "hey here's the big epic cheese song!" recently and they can't even do basic things right like making the song progress from one part to the next, or reprising themes, or making crescendos and climaxes, etc.
>>61125678
I'm not against modern prog, but I still hate 80s neoprog for that. Even if they make legit prog songs, if I hear that 80s style reverbed arpeggiated guitar or washes of pads in every fucking song, I'm gonna shit on it too. Can't listen to stuff like IQ or whatever.
>>61128067
ELP never made a single decent album but they did make many good songs. I personally love that brand of prog, the "cold production" bass+keyboard+analog synths (Morgan is probably my favourite). Karn Evil really is a great song too, all ties together really well with great melodies and energy. I also love it whenever he throws in some Copland section.
>>61127879
Suddenly the Rain and Brother Where You Bound songs are wonderful stuff and still listen to those a lot, but it seems like the band totally died. Shame they never really made any other great stuff.
>>61142261
Well, Yes were a Beatles cover band before they became Yes. Jon anderson said he played in a lot of "RnB' bands too, I imagine the rest did too. They wear their pop roots and influences on their sleeve and it's one of the reasons they got as popular as they did. I mean all their major songs can be compositionally reduced to a hit pop single if you cut out all the other shit. They're surely corny in the "hippy 70s rock" aspect but I think that's a way "cooler" aesthetic than many other bands get stuck with, which is usually just "campy nerds".
>>61142409
Yeah I don't know what Wakeman was smoking, 90125 isn't even that bad - Tormato has the worst I've ever heard
https://youtu.be/PrmR2G0uOpE?t=112
I mean holy FUCK
>>61134738
I love Beardfish even though most of their songs don't end up being that great (I think they rush the writing of them), but I cannot get into BBT for the life of me. Tried listened to EE yet again and it just bores me, the fact that every song starts off with something slow and quiet and the tempos are all so midrange, is just so boring.
It's funny because I finally got into raven recently after being put off by it for its slowness, but the melodies are neat.
>>61142138
>>61142220
>>61142136
I'll give them a listen. Just very frustrated.
>>61142524
I'd have to agree on Yes. Close to the edge only has 3 songs but I didnt know that when i first listened it. It really is just a bunch of short pop singles patched together with sections of progressive guitar solos, bass riffs, and progressive percussion.
>>61142620
Oh dear christ
>>61142700
So, just like Thick as a Brick?
>>61142620
Besides that tho Tormato is a really fucking good album and one of the most underrated albums of all time
>>61141700
I thought FOABP was mocking these rebellious teens
>>61142138
terrible album
>>61142620
I liked Tormato more than most of Yes's other stuff.
>>61142736
LOL, I have that album on vinyl (2 copies actually) and didn't even realize it was only 2 songs. Im such a putz. Yes, exactly like that.
>>61142783
>Pink Lemonade is bad meme
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>61142700
I mean Siberian Khatru verse is totally funky RnB, You and I is a pop ballad, Close to the Edge's prechorus and chorus could totally be a pop song if they were reduced to 4/4, even their other songs like Starship Trooper is hippy acoustic ballad (Jon Anderson just wrote it on guitar himself), and hell Roundabout WAS a pop hit. It's super popular even now even in its extended form, because it's very competently put together.
They're so great because they throw in all sorts of fun breaks and interludes and new sections, new variations and twists of past segments (Yours is No Disgrace minor key jazz verse is still so clever to me, or something like Starship's totally unique break), instrumentals, callbacks, tons of energy and virtuosity and use of crescendo (everything on CTTE), etc. But the core of it is usually a few catchy vocal melodies. So basically everything I love in music, which is why they're still one of my favourite bands ever (Along with Moon Safari)
>>61142763
>>61142838
NO WAY TORMATO IS SOO BAD
No but really what do you like about it.
>>61142736
Well like most of the heavily lauded and popular prog albums.
>>61142736
Also, I wasn't knocking when I said that, if thats what you're thinking
>>61142884
It's a good Prog album. I think ppl don't really like it mostly because of the cover.
Honestly I will forever remain a Steven Wilson fanboy because of the fact he helped to introduce me to prog and heavy music. If not for him, I would still unironically read NME, Q and Pitchfork. I started exploring music outside the maisntream and hyped stuff. His last album was not so good but most of his other work still holds up.
>>61142884
I'm >>61142838
I just liked how it sounds. For me its:
1. Close to the Edge
2. Relayer
3. Fragile
4. The Yes Album
5. Tormato
I highly recommend this album for you, prog fans.
This album is the best Israeli album i ever heard, easily.
>>61134738
>>61142699
Phideaux M8
>>61142958
The only Israeli music I know is Orphaned Land and Distorted Harmony
>>61142700
>It really is just a bunch of short pop singles patched together with sections of progressive guitar solos, bass riffs, and progressive percussion.
thats exactly what is good about it
>>61142933
1. Close to the Edge
2. Tales From Topographic Oceans
3. Fragile
4. Relayer
5. The Yes Album
6. Going For The One
7. Yes
8. Tormato
>>61142979
Never heard Distorted Harmony to be honest.
Not a fan of orphaned land :v
>>61142979
There's also that Jewish hack who made music with Steven Wilson
This is surely the pinnacle of Genesis' career
>>61142963
Yes phideaux are another one of my modern favorites, great sound and moments. I think it's strange how much they've changed since their earlier non-prog albums that weren't that great. But it seems they're also dead in the water currently since they're not fucking releasing Infernal. Driving me as crazy as protomen. He even released the song list! With times!
>>61142958
Never heard of them. How many shekels will I have to pay
>>61142884
>Starship's break
Oh I found this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pH_9CSVEZSo
I just love em, even their first two albums
>>61142933
For me it'd be CTTE > Yes Album > Fragile > Tales > Relayer
Recently listened to this and I really loved it, one of the few of his albums I've listened to so far where I like both sides pretty much equally.
Surprised this thread survived for so long
>>61143068
Is this Gallifrey?
>>61143102
>Phideaux
>they
It's basically one man project
>>61143109
One of my favourite albums ever, discovered it through my mom who is a big Oldfield fan
>>61143111
I started this thread. I didn't figure it would pick up since it didn't start with any shit stirring nonsense, but here I am.
>>61142983
see
>>61142887
Personally I think the fact that its "pop-single" moments are spaced out between technical guitar parts and building grooves is what makes it better than Fragile (which I think has the best pop moments). I never felt like Fragile was satisfyingly progressive enough, that Yes didn't finish their thoughts like they did on CttE, which is why I have Fragile at 3 (I don't prefer it over #4 and 5# very much, 3-5 are interchangeable as far as im concerned. One reason I don't like ELP is because they had the shortest attention span ever.
>>61143102
Here, have a song from the album
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZclp9pAvwM
>>61143118
What? No
His favourite prog band is Marillion
>>61143135
It would die if I didn't bump it several times
>>61143109
>That flute on side 1
>that guitar solo near the end of side 2
hnnngg
i agree, I recently bought a box set of 4 Oldfield albums, this was one of them.
>>61143133
I really like Oldfield as well, I'm going through his discography chronologically. Right now I'm at QE2.
I'm 90% sure I'm the only person on this board who likes Asia
>>61143092
hey no worries
>>61143118
nope
I own two Genesis albums on vinyl can u guess which two? Hint: the best album and the worst
>>61143209
you're not i like em along with starcastle
>>61143215
Sellign England and Calling All Stations
But seriously, what is it about prog where no band managed to make it more than a decade without going completely up their own backsides and creating awful, boring wankery?
Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, Pink Floyd and bands like Jethro Tull had their unquestionably best periods during the 70s and came to a startling halt by 1980.
Or was it just the 80s making prog unfashionable that forced everyone to give up what they were doing and creating what they thought was pop music?
>>61143228
haha sooo close Abacab and Invisible Touch, best and worst respectively
>>61143237
King Crimson still made good music you pleb
>>61143240
looool I'm kidding Invisible Touch isn't that bad
Why is prog so good bros?
>>61143237
Funnily neo-prog bands like Marillion IQ and Pendragon remained consistent for over 20 years
>>61143237
King Crimson and Yes had its moments in the 80s imo,
>>61143135
We can add in some shit-stirring nonsense if you want, there's still time.
>>61143254
lol Fripp should've just called it quits after Discipline desu
Foxtrot needs more love.
In fact, everyone needs to go listen to Dream Theater's Octiverium (the song not the album) and listen to every album that it references.
That single track got me into more prog rock than any other band combined, unfortunately the more I listened to their influences the more I realised that Dream Theater haven't got an ounce of originality that any of their influences had.
>>61143237
But Discipline is one of king crimson's best albums :v
>>61143278
>Pendragon
the masquerade overture and window of life are great albums the only time i see them get talked about on /mu/ is when people shite on them
>>61143237
I think that kind of music became a lot less profitable around that time. If I remember correctly the industry around that time hit an economic slump. I think the blowback against the image of prog didn't help much either.
>>61143292
Foxtrot is the best Genesis album. People only ever talk about Supper's Ready, but Watcher of the Skies is one of the greatest opening tracks of all time.
>>61143313
That's because I am one of the only 5 people here who unironically like neo-prog
Galahad were even funnie rcase, they released mediocre music for over 20 years and suddenly dropped this great album
Also check out Canadain band Mystery
>>61143335
I think The Lamb is the best Genesis album
>>61143284
Both had 'moments' but when you list the albums they made in the 70s it's a complete mismatch.
70s King Crimson had: In the Wake of Poseidon, Lizard, Islands, Larks' Tongues in Aspic, Starless and Bible Black, and Red.
80s King Crimson had: Discipline, Beat and Three of a Perfect Pair.
Now if you can make a good argument that those three 80s albums are on par with their 70s work then I'd like to listen to it, because 70s KC has both the quality and quantity won.
Still jamming out to The Golden Communion.
>>61118563
Kot Plini.
Worst prog album of the year
I've only really listened to prog from the 70's/80's, someone throw some current prog recommendations my way.
>>61143365
Lizard only had two good songs that bookended the album, but at that they were god-tier.
>>61143411
see
>>61120381
Depends on the style you want and if you can stand more metal sound
>>61143354
best album of all time
>>61143411
The best contemporary prog ought to be anything but conventional.
I recommend: >>61143389
The new Gazpacho is good too.
>>61143411
Assuming you've listened to absolutely no progressive rock from this century:
The two biggest names imo are Steven Wilson/Porcupine Tree and the Mars Volta. For Porcupine Tree, start with In Absentia. For TMV start with Deloused in the Comatorium.
>>61143342
I will check out Galahad
>>61143143
I never really liked Fragile that much. I mean, things like Brahms and Heaven are just awful. Runaround is a great little number but I wish there was a variation for the last verse (just my nitpicking). I also don't think South Side is that great, does not play to the band's strengths. So there's really only Roundabout and Heart there for me.
>>61143209
gross
>>61143262
Foxtrot was my first genesis and I think it's undoubtedly the strongest.
I'm looking forward to DT's new album although the past two have been fucking trash. I still unabashedly fucking love I&W (still think it's one of the best prog rock albums ever) and that period of theirs, and even lots of their other stuff throughout, but those last two albums man, so bad.
>>61143354
Loved that album once I let it set in with me, then it was like a ride. If you really listen to it you can tell how modern it's trying to be though, a big departure from their older sound. The whole theme fits too, modern new york guy (punk) gets lost in some mythological underworld (older genesis type material). I guess it's a fitting end to the gabriel era. It's a great album to get lost in for sure, like the Wall.
Shame the sort of stuff Peter released later. i watched some live video, he's doing like, coordinated dancing to some cheesy world music pop with a bunch of smiling guest musicians, what the fuck?
>>61143411
moon safari - blomljud, beardfish - destined solitaire, phideaux - doomsday afternoon, steve wilson - raven that refused to sing
>tfw we actually hit bump limit
Thanks bros
>>61143493
Only their last 3 albums are worthwhile
>>61143411
Well this album is pretty amazing. (Toby Driver in general is amazing btw)
>>61143493
And I'll leave a link for this here
Collage - Moonshine
>neo-prog, cult classic
https://mega.nz/#F!WIVWnByJ!1ZGe3_aXGT6AnODKBickuw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPOboVUHitM
>>61143365
The 70s was definitely better for prog, but I don't think its fair to say they were bad. I supposed you never said that though.
I would say for prog
70s >>> 60s >>>> 00s > 90s >>> 10s >>> 80s
>>61142081
proggers need to work on making better album covers
>>61143679
I mean what is this
>>61143679
I've always thought this. Modern prog covers look like deviantart digital amateur stuff.
>>61143403
you didnt hear zierler then
>>61143698
it's japanese progressive rock
says it right there
>>61143679
that supuration cover is great though, even if it's their worst release by far (just re-recordings of demoes that don't add much)
>>61143757
>zierler
Kek both Gallifrey and my other friend trashed it, looks amusingly bad
>>61121554
Sweet Tooth is catchy. Reminds me of Satriani.
>>61143506
I could never fully get into Kayo Dot's stuff before, but I really loved Coffins on IO. I think Toby's description of what he was going for is spot on “Basically the vibe that we’re going for here is inspired by 80s retro-future noir— Blade Runner,” Driver explains. “I wanted to make a good record to put on while you drive across the desert at night under a toxic, post-apocalyptic atmosphere,” he says, adding, “There’s a weird underlying theme of murder, shame and death.”
>>61135068
this album is so fucking bad holy shit
jon davidson sounds like a better jon anderson and it pisses me off.
Baker Street Muse by Jethro Tull is one of their best tracks by far.
It just keeps getting better and better and better.
>>61132757
This is great
How the fuck have I never listened to Selling England by the Pound until now?
I always looked at the name of the album, the album artwork and the fact it's Genesis (who I used to associate with Phil Collins being a boring shithead) and never bothered listening.
But wow, it starts off a little slow but very quickly derails into amazing prog rock.
>>61144888
Dude you have to listen to the gabriel albums
Nothing like Collins stuff at all
