There is NOTHING experimental or groundbreaking about current experimental music
man that is one ugly ass nerd, would not fuck
cool.
also Death Grips is the worst offender of the culture industry becoming DIY.
What a ridiculous statement. OP, please control your retardation.
adorno pls go, the poptimists have won
please read and delete all your music
https://themaxklinger.wordpress.com/2012/11/27/a-summary-of-adorno-and-horkheimers-slightly-interesting-and-staggeringly-pretentious-views-on-art/
No one wants to talk critical theory :(
muh cultural marxists
>>61113014
do you know anything about theory or are you just repeating what you heard /pol/ say because "cultural marxism" has nothing to do with this
this is true, however it's an entirely 20th century concept that music be experimental, so perhaps we leave that one behind and let the most talented musicians make music that they feel is good rather than groundbreaking
>>61113055
does anyone on /pol/ know anything about theory?
i don't doubt that any /pol/ would immediately have that reaction to anything associated with the frankfurt school
the vast majority of music isnt experimental. it certainly doesnt apply to any of the music to which the label is usually applied.
the single defining fact about an experiment is that the outcome is unknown. music is entirely the opposite, an artist has an idea of the desired outcome and works to achieve it. if they dont think they realise their concept first time theyll go back and rework the piece in some way. in an actual experiment you might repeat it to check the result or examine your methodology for sources of error but the results are what they are whether you like them or not.
there is a case for saying improvisation is experimental but in general experimental is a spurious epithet attached to music by reviewers and listeners rather than artists in an attempt to add perceived intellectual value to their chosen material.
>>61112754
There is NOTHING experimental or groundbreaking about proto-sporkcore either.
>>61112754
no shit fuckface
>>61112754
>there is nothing experimental about modernism as well y'a old german fuckhead. Just because black music is inspired by 'lusty negro beats' doesn't mean that it's non-intellectual and savage music. Hell, modernists composers are actually more detached in theri sense of abandonment of classic harmonical thinking on behalf of some grander 'modern' approach of things. What the hell is especially intellectual about leaving your human roots in favor of some wacked out atonal concepts other than having shock value ( which is post Stravinsky by itself also nothing more that rehearsals of the concept)
>>61112754
>current experimental music
which artists are you referring to?
We still have a lot to explore in the microtonal area.
Plus, electronic music is getting as abstract as ever.
>>61114153
well there is aleatoric, stochastic, and indeterminate music, where the point is that either the composition process or performance process isn't known before it actually comes to fruition, and is bound only by guidelines (similar to procedure/material/sampling guidelines in your everyday experiment).
but i agree with you, experimental is a strange word to apply to music generally. i dont know of many artists who call their work experimental even if others would, they're just doing what they think sounds good.
>>61113276
Unfounded conspiracy theories and knee jerk reaction are a time honored tradition over there.
