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Guitar chords and inversions
>http://www.chordbook.com/guitarchords.php
String Tension Calculator (D'Addario based):
>http://hikkyz.net/misc/stringassembler/
Floyd Rose Setup Video Tutorial:
>http://youtu.be/umY5NBKg5AA?list=PLcm7Ag6Q-OkZAmlY6dAhS2ZL9TUMeRZdI
Steve Vai's Ten Hour Workout
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/kzw6kjuocgicwks/Ten_Hour.pdf
Guthrie Govan's Creative Guitar 1 & 2
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/bn8803xzlrbds3b/Guitar1.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/9uhtufuf3z9cx8m/Guitar2.rar
Impulse Response Pack
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/svtfxjtillrdwt8/Gods+Cab+1.3.rar
>http://www.mediafire.com/download/4n28zkjw0zgmdj9/ASEM+RECTO+V30+L2.wav
Free VST downloads (amps and effects simulators):
>http://www.vst4free.com/
ASIO drivers (essential to use VSTs while playing):
>http://www.asio4all.com/
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>Advancing Guitarist Mick Goodrick
http://www.mediafire.com/download/07izim49ao6ij7m
>Chord Chemistry - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/61n5op7eiifxztg
Others
>Mickey Baker's Jazz Guitar
http://www.mediafire.com/download/tpr2u4e3bou2lqi
>Modern Chord Progressions: Jazz and Classical Voicings for Guitar - Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/5lvaa121vz29y83
>Jazz Guitar: Single Note Soloing Vol. 1 & 2- Ted Greene
http://www.mediafire.com/download/2ckhum02748z2pk
Previous thread: >>61016151
SX propaganda leads the way!
>>61033771
Highly extended range basses have nothing to do with djent since they add higher notes, you can play every djent band ever with a 5 string.
>>61034114
Not sure if I'd pick a J/J bass for doom, but yeah a 5 string's a good idea if you're going to play downtuned stuff but don't want to set it up again. Plus you get some extra notes on the same position, which helps a lot with a bass's scale when compared to a guitar.
>>61033936
>there's nothing djenty about it
yeah sure
>>61034030
I'm not talking about the neck, I already told you. I'm talking about the body, I actually like how the neck stripes look.
Look at pic related, an extreme example of what I'm talking about.
>>61034336
You can play djent with one string, doesn't make djentfags want any less strings tho.
>>61034373
let's fire up the thread with some insecure blues lawyer bullshit
great idea
>>61034373
>You can play djent with one string, doesn't make djentfags want any less strings tho.
Show me at least three djent bands where the bassist has more than 5 strings.
>>61034114
>first bass
>five string
you'll want another soon enough
>>61034565
This. I started off with a five string, and then I gave that to someone about a couple years later. Now I just say fuck it and downtune a four string.
>>61034565
>implying
I started with my beloved 5 string bass back in 09 and haven't felt the need for anything else. I admit a classic Precision would be nice to have though. 6 strings are the height of faggotry and are made for frustrated guitarists who picked bass because they couldn't into guitar, unless they use standard F# tuning. I'd rather tune my 5 in fifths desu though
I feel as though my reason for practicing so rarely is because I have no real motivation in general. If I manage to find a guitar player who stand playing non-technical death metal, than I'd have a reason to give a shit.
>>61034565
Fuck that, I want a fender VI that I can use as a baritone.
>>61034427
>djent
>bass
also pic related
>>61034622
>and are made for frustrated guitarists who picked bass because they couldn't into guitar
I think I've heard this bullshit being spouted at literally anything from fuzz pedals to humbucker pickups to even playing bass at all
how about this, you're a divisive cunt with strong-yet-indefensible opinions about shit that doesn't matter or affect you in any way whatsoever
>>61034667
forgot pic
>>61034692
Nolly actually uses that 6th string though
>>61034692
>their djent bassist only has 6 strings
Embarrassing
>>61034650
i mix practicing with writing music
it's probably not efficient but it gets the job done sooner or later
>>61034622
>6 strings are the height of faggotry
>I'd rather tune my 5 in fifths desu though
This makes no sense, why would you think more range is retarded if you'd tune to get more range instead ?
>>61034667
>>61034692
periphery isn't djent.
those are djent.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hB75rvrv5YA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kx0klv82BDA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIcnc_8UxXo
>>61034721
frets are for fags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNAqGrVrcMw
Be nice guys, this is one of the only constructive threads on mu.
>>61034688
fuzz pedals and pickups don't fundamentally change the instrument
inside every 6+ string bassist there's a faggot wanting to play "bass melodies" and neglect the bassline
What are some must learn scales that I should practice on my acoustic?
Anyone know a nice huge collection of licks? (blues jazz and rock)
I've been playing over a decade (the wrong way) and I got alright technique, I can almost instantly play whatever someone shows me, but I have no imagination when it comes to making up cool licks. I got my scales and modes down so don't bother telling me to learn that, Im simply the kind of guy that learns the best by copying others then making adjustments according to my style.
>>61034748
>This makes no sense, why would you think more range is retarded if you'd tune to get more range instead ?
I said 6 strings aren't the height of faggotry in case the added string is a low F#. More strings than that are necessarily faggy because they absolutely need to be higher or it's inaudible (F# is 3Hz over the lower audible limit), so they invade the guitar range.
Dickin' around with tab challenge from previous thread:
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0p7gYY05DUH
>>61034721
What are those 'finger cuffs' for?
>>61034819
TrueFire has a lot of large collections of strictly licks lessons.
Also check out Marty Friedman's "99 Secret Lead Guitar Phrases."
>>61034721
>natural finish
check
>different woods in body
check
>6+ strings
check
>djent
check
>faggy playing style
check
>frustrated guitarist tapping
check
>>61034778
inside every shit bassist there's the crap belief that his job is to play like he's the root note bitch
yeah, I can hyperbolize too
anything goes in music, always and forever. the only requirement is that someone, somewhere enjoys it.
and this isn't a grand statement. it's reality and it's the only reason whatever contemporary music you enjoy exists to begin with.
you'd be better off finding a hobby where you're not cancer. I hear woodworking is pretty straightforward.
>>61034748
Even in your trve djent the bass is completely useless and only kept for tradition
>>61034778
>inside every 6+ string bassist there's a faggot wanting to play "bass melodies" and neglect the bassline
That's a valid complaint, but it's not going to be necessarily true, buying a 6 string doesn't make you a faggot by default.
>>61034824
>so they invade the guitar range
Only if you only play on your lowest strings.
>>61034894
Nah, bass is pretty important live in Meshuggah, the band sounds huge there because of it. Their album Nothing was originally supposed to be an all bass album apparently.
>all the body types I like have Humbuckers
>sound like shit in the rare case they have Single Coils
Why are there barely any Flying Vs with Singles?
>I play a flying V
>I play a jaguar
>I play a mustang
>I play a jazzmaster
>I play a 7+ string
>I play bass
>>61035078
Just buy a regular V, and put some single coils in it.
More guitars need to be HSH though, I love a single coil in the middle for cleans.
>>61035132
Thank you santa for reading my christmas wishlist.
Except for the jaguar. I want the car, not the guitar.
>>61035132
replace flying v with telecaster
>>61035132
flying Vs suck
jaguars are good
mustangs suck
jazzmasters are shit
any guitar over 6 strings is shit
bass is fine
>>61035175
>everything sucks besides the guitar that i use
underage pls go
>>61035163
Aren't Humbuckers bigger than Single Coils? I don't want a huge hole around the pickups.
>>61035189
I don't even use any of those guitars...
>>61035132
you forgot headless, boutique builders, and exotic woods
>>61035248
>you forgot headless, boutique builders, and exotic woods
Headless guitars are the most fedora of all.
>>61035209
You can get single coils that fit humbucker cavities. GFS surf 90s are really good if your talking about 24 3/4 scale. Also consider coil tapping. In fact, you should really try coil tapping first to see if you get a tone you like before spending on replacement pickups.
>>61034892
I don't stick to the root but I'd much rather play the root without neglecting my rhythmic and bottom end role than play shitty high note melodies
>>61035209
What kind of flying v do you want? The gibson type is pretty much completely covered by pickguard. You can probably buy one for single coils.
>>61034959
>Only if you only play on your lowest strings.
I think you mean "highest", unless you were talking about geometrical height. That said, why even have them if you won't play them? Hence, 6+ string basses are faggotry.
>>61035132
>>61035175
>>61035248
>>61035259
I don't think I've seen so many shit hipster contrarian opinions on /gg/ in such a small amount of time
>>61035285
More power to you mate
You are allowed to do whatever the fuck you want and that's what's so wonderful
>>61035132
>projecting this hard
I play bass and a strat, and plan to get a Flying V in the future. Enjoy your ASAT I guess.
Should I get a Zoom G5 over a BOSS ME-80?
>>61035132
>I play music
>I listen to music
>I enjoy things
>I exist
>
>>61035132
>>61035346
Also 7 string guitars are kinda fine although I'm not a fan. 8+ are faggotry and fedora tier.
>>61035323
>I don't think I've seen so many shit hipster contrarian opinions on /gg/ in such a small amount of time
Dude I just like regular guitars, buying some expensive boutique shit is a waste of money.
Not contrarian at all.
>>61035248
>2015
>still not believing in tone woods
Every thing about the guitar contributes to the tone.
Why do you think you can buy relic'd guitars? The master luthier has made just the right scrapes and cuts to give the guitar a great tone.
If I'm ever looking for a tone that I can't find I take a stanley blade to my guitar and chip off some paint or give it a "tone scratch".
"Tone relic"ing and tone woods are things that you can't ignore if you want to take your tone to the next level
>I play dadrock
>I play metal
>I play anything besides a strat or tele
>https://clyp.it/v1gvb0mg
>>61026631
Schecter with active pickups, 6505+ into Mesa 4x12, sm57, Komplete Audio 6 interface, Pro Tools 10. It was recorded with the volume as low as possible since I was recording after midnight and trying to not piss anyone off, definitely not optimal recording conditions
>>61026689
Thanks dude. It's just a preliminary mix. It'll sound better once I add bass, high-pass the guitars, and level out the drum mix
>>61034827
Nice playing, I love the interpretation
>>61035375
Thousand buck MiA Telecaster: totally fine
Thosuand buck Schecter 8 string: hurr le fedoracore
You hold irreconcilable beliefs because you are a shit brained manchild
>>61035320
>That said, why even have them if you won't play them?
Playing guitar isn't about repeatly hitting your E string. On a 7 string bass, you're hitting C3 with your highest string, one step below D3 on a standard guitar, which still leaves 3 higher strings to play on if you're so anal about not doing the same notes as your bassist.
>>61035392
lel.
I enjoyed reading that.
But seriously though "tone woods" don't matter for shit unless you're playing an acoustic.
>>61035392
>Why do you think you can buy relic'd guitars?
because retards with too much money
but looking over the rest of your post it appears you're just memeing
>>61035400
>I play dadrock
>I play metal
This is objectively true desu. If you play anything besides Indie music or folk, you're a fedora-tipping edgelord
>>61035259
I don't like them but I don't really think headless are fedora, EVH used them after all. Agree with the rest though, specially exotic woods. Boutique isn't fedora only if it's a local builder and if it's a completely custom design. Going out of your way to buy a boutique version of a production model is fedora as fuck (thinking of boutique Strats, Teles and Les Pauls particularly).
ting tong taw ting nap nong naw humbucka nip nog ting taw [SHREDS SLOPPILY FOR 10 MINUTES] ting tong niw chaw nong ning tip tong pickups [SHREDS WITH DISTORTION FOR 5 MINUTES] nip naw ting tong ting tang
>>61035415
>Thousand buck MiA Telecaster: totally fine
>Thosuand buck Schecter 8 string: hurr le fedoracore
>You hold irreconcilable beliefs because you are a shit brained manchild
Where did I imply any of this?
Get a used guitar, a cheap guitar, doesn't even have to be Fender/Gibson, and use it to the best of your advantage.
If you buy stuff like purposely relic'd shit then you are literal fedora btw.
>>61035415
>Fender
>Schecter
>boutique
>>61035407
This is pretty fucking good. Reminds me of Plini. Pleasant and well researched.
The chorus effect is a tad bit annoying though.
>>61035436
if you play Indie music you are a stain-on-society hipster faggot
>>61035416
thought you were talking about extra bass strings
in any case, there's a reason why you have 24 frets, there's literally no reason for 6+ strings unless you are a wannabe guitarist playing bass
>>61035502
Honestly if you play bass you only need 4 strings.
If you want to play between guitar and bass that's fine, but 5 string basses are functionally useless.
All the extended range hate in this thread is pretty kekworthy
>>61035319
depends on the particular gibson model smhfamtbh
>>61035445
>Going out of your way to buy a boutique version of a production model is fedora as fuck (thinking of boutique Strats, Teles and Les Pauls particularly).
I'd say so only if the price is hugely different. Like if you live in a country where import taxes or something would make a fender expensive as fuck, but a local builder is cheaper, it's probably just a smarter move to buy the boutique version.
>>61035558
>chugging 000000 on the lowest string
>extended range
lel
>>61035497
Thanks man, I do get a lot of influence from Plini
>chorus effect
The only effect I have in there is reverb on the leads. Maybe it's the rhythm doubletracking that's giving you a chorus-y vibe?
>>61035483
There are advantages to paying more for an instrument though. I don't mean 5k custom made shit either.
Tone wise though, not much of a difference between a $500 guitar and one worth thrice that though. It's just not a complex science at all. The extra goes into build/material quality, features like graphite strengthened necks, etc.
The absolute most I'd pay for a guitar or bass is 2 grands. New or used.
> If you buy stuff like purposely relic'd shit then you are literal fedora btw.
Not my thing but I'm not the sort of person who gives that much of a fuck about what kind of aesthetics people are into.
>>61035570
>I'd say so only if the price is hugely different. Like if you live in a country where import taxes or something would make a fender expensive as fuck, but a local builder is cheaper, it's probably just a smarter move to buy the boutique version.
that's why I said "going out of your way"
is there a free VST that will make my guitar sound like a bass?
tried using the guitar rig whammy pedal to make my guitar sound like bass but it sounds like shit
>>61035559
the 67 style is more popular than 58
dunno why it's definitely uglier
>>61035528
the main appeal of 5 string basses for bassists that don't play metal is the ability to play lower without having to tune and setup for it
it's particularly useful if your vocalist's range isn't all that great
>>61035502
Playing on a thinner string will give another kind of texture.
Also having a bass doesn't mean you are going to play with a guitarist, you might as well play with a keyboard, in which case you will have plenty of room to use your higher strings.
I'm not saying you necessarily need more strings, but there's nothing wrong with it as long as you aren't being a retard with it.
>>61035528
5 string basses are plenty useful though. Having one more string gives you a lot more reach without having to really move, and they're not really harder to play than a 4 string.
>>61035585
>Implying that's all extended range is ever used for
Have you ever heard anything made on an ERG that isn't Meshuggah?
>>61035558
I honestly like this
is it suppose to be a guitar and bass combined?
>>61035528
I'm the one you replied to. 5 string basses are great if you don't want to downtune your bass and still get the low B. Also as a drop tuning hater, I really enjoy being able to play Rammstein songs in standard.
Hey /gg/, I was thinking in bought a new guitar and I don't know what to get really.
I was thinking in a Gretsch Pro Jet Electromatic and a G&L strat Tribute Series/Fender MIM strat (That is my budget)
So, What I should get /gg/? Is the Gretsch better than the G&L/fender? is the G&L/fender better than the gretsch? which one have better material quality? more durability? etc.
I mostly play Fuzzy Doom, Psychedelic rock/pop, a lot of indie rock tho.
also, id you're to lazy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMi1ViatNrQ&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl8GcAr_keQ&
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jEf9kkqv-I
I only watch these videos to laugh at Chapshit being unable to play anything that isn't cheesey metal
>>61035609
>Tone wise though, not much of a difference between a $500 guitar and one worth thrice that though. It's just not a complex science at all. The extra goes into build/material quality, features like graphite strengthened necks, etc.
>The absolute most I'd pay for a guitar or bass is 2 grands. New or used.
Well yeah. When it comes to electric guitars you are paying for 2 things.
1) the quality of the neck and the fretwork of the neck.
2) the quality of the pickups.
Anything else is debatable.
It's not like buying an acoustic, where the actual wood the guitar is made of will impact the sound.
Electric guitars are overpriced as fuck, but then again, they're valued like classic cars by blues lawyers who've driven up the prices.
>>61035664
>and they're not really harder to play than a 4 string.
they are if you value a lot of string space
>>61035682
Yep. It came from the factory tuned as a bass on top of a guitar, I don't tune it that way but I still have range past a 5 string bass and a 6 string guitar.
>>61035649
I prefer the 67 pickguard tbqh unless it also has the 58 tailpiece.
>>61035704
>Fuzzy Doom
Get something with humbuckers, the Pro-Jet would be a better choice. They're all around the same build quality. the MIM being slightly better probably.
what kind of music does christian bale play?
bassist here
i own a 6 string and can confirm that it's retarded. anybody who plays a bass with more than five strings is an idiot who thinks they're le melodic virtuoso and is only looking for attention. even worse are the guys who play fretless (especially in metal) and play shit that sounds horrible and doesn't fit the song at all and thinks they're the guy from obscura
Im trying to replace my retarded exotic woods 6 string with a 5 string jazz bass asap because its super embarrassing to play live with
>>61035850
>5 string
>jazz
definitely more retarded than what you have currently tbhfamsmh
>>61035788
I see... Well, I love fuzz and I mostly play with that, some other recommendations to humbucker guitars?
>>61035719
Have you tried a proper expensive electrical guitar? If I had the money (and skills to justify it) I would not hesitate a second to replace my les paul for any of those 5k+ suhrs, prs or even gibson and fender customs, let alone vintage pieces. Those things just ring to no end, not to mention they dont lose a cent in value as time goes, just can just sell them and get your money back if you get tired of it.
>>61035830
idk, I took that from a movie. Posted him hoping to get dubs but the connection and file upload took too long for that.
>>61035850
>i own a 6 string and can confirm that it's retarded. anybody who plays a bass with more than five strings is an idiot who thinks they're le melodic virtuoso and is only looking for attention. even worse are the guys who play fretless (especially in metal) and play shit that sounds horrible and doesn't fit the song at all and thinks they're the guy from obscura
>Im trying to replace my retarded exotic woods 6 string with a 5 string jazz bass asap because its super embarrassing to play live with
FUCKING BASED
what is higher quality MIM or made in NIPPON?
>>61035924
>Those things just ring to no end
Uh, if I wanted something that did that I'd get a Travis Bean or something like that with a fucking aluminum spar through the neck.
Some vintage strat or Les Paul pales in comparison. it's an ELECTRIC guitar. It's not an acoustic guitar, build quality doesn't matter much in electric guitars so much as you use good pickups and have a neck that isn't made by Chinese kids.
are burgeras good amps? I want to get a tube amp but dont want to spend a shit ton of money and i dont really need it to be super fancy cause my current amp is shit. Just like are they reliable, well made etc.
>>61036059
Check out the Ibanez IL15, it's a good and cheap tube amp
>>61035925
sad stori:
>be me
>teh tiem 2 switch rooms in teh dorm has coem
>doing teh moving
>suddenly I hit teh chair by accident
>chair says u r n faget, i fuk'd ur bich
>falls tangentially to my base geetar making the scratch in pic related
>hear dolan laughing in the background
>y u do dis dolan
i cri evrytiem
>>61035910
nothing wrong with a 5 string j bass. Especially when all the other options are Ibanez/schecter/warwick exotic toanwudz epic thin shredder neck trash with active preamps that turn the tone to complete shit
>>61035392
that looks excactly like the strat the guitarist from dungen uses.
>>61035995
Which person would you trust more to be your neighbor?
>>61035850
I should also note that THIS is my bass..
cringe...
>>61036017
I would just say fair point and agree with you if you had said normal quality guitars give good enough performance for nearly everyone, including professional guitarists. But to say there is no objective difference between $500 and $5000 guitar is nonsense. Hell I could pass a blind test between epiphone and gibson with 100% certainty, never mind exotic guitars.
What's /gg/ tying to learn?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2gtUcFRGmWI
>>61036104
cool i'll check it out. do you think it'd be good for playing stuff with like a pavement style tone? I know malkmus uses an orange with a marshall cab and the tone i'm looking for is not exactly his but it's a good general idea of what i like
>>61036128
>thin shredder neck
but warwicks literally have the thickest necks around and I believe they choose woods based on their hardness and looks instead of perceived sound qualities
>>61036224
trying to work on writing my own songs with mixed results
>>61036193
>But to say there is no objective difference between $500 and $5000 guitar is nonsense. Hell I could pass a blind test between epiphone and gibson with 100% certainty, never mind exotic guitars.
Fair enough, but I'm more of an acoustic guitar player than an electric one. A filthy sounding electric guitar is actually a plus for me. As far as I'm concerned it's a block of wood with pickups and strings.
>>61036176
you deserve to hate yourself mate
not for that reason but still
>>61036176
6 string basses are shit unless they're a Fender IV, which isn't really that much of a bass desu.
>>61036282
then 4 what reason?
>>61036128
>warwick
>not gud
fite me irl fgt
not saying I wouldn't love a precision though :^)
>>61036176
>single cutaway bass
>>61036234
>that pic
>every single warwick player
>>61036299
yeah mate I agree thats why I hate it
>Play guitar for about 10 years
>I'm 24
>Bullshitted around for the first 5
>got serious, started taking lessons, teaching classes with kids
>got into Jazz Improv at about 20
>Now I play at this little frame gallery place in my downtown area twice a month
>We play jazz standards and just take turns jamming out all over them for about 3 hours
>I have a degree and a job but live for those 3 hours on stage twice a week playing for people in a snoody frame galley who are drinking wine and looking at art all night
>I should get into Heroin
>>61036323
>yeah mate I agree thats why I hate it
I have been needing to take up bass recently, since as a guitarist I tend to write my own basslines in some of my songs, and I need something to tie stuff together.
>>61036176
how did you fall for that meme and how did you become based?
>inb4 hurr durr avatarfagging
>>61036435
it was a good deal on reverb and I somehow talked myself into believing that Ibanez had decent qc
after realizing what a shit bass it is soon after I got it I kind of gradually realized that shit like that is a retarded fad, and that classic designs like J and P basses have stuck around for a reason
>>61036225
I have the Ibanez IL15 and I play perfectly Pavement, it's more versatile than you think, if you want a "demo" without metal riffs, ask to me and I send to you
>>61036193
>Hell I could pass a blind test between epiphone and gibson with 100% certainty, never mind exotic guitars.
I don't think you'd pass it if gibson hardware and pickups were thrown into the epi. Bridge, nut and pickups impact the sound much more than woods ever will.
>>61036300
letting these dregs influence your decisions
>>61036496
>a metal amp
>a shitty indie band
ok mate
>>61036224
I'm trying to teach myself the CAGED rigamarole. I used to search youtube and tune out 20 seconds into videos but I'm digging deeper this time to finally try and figure this shit out.
>>61036165
I don't know, they'd both call me white devil in their native tongues
Is it possible for a les paul to be better than this?
>tfw no pic related
>>61036504
If that was true you would be able to find me a stratocaster with humbuckers that we would mistake for a les paul (sound wise ofcourse).
Since there's so much bass discussion going on right now:
My teacher is really chill and an amazing player (upright and electric), but he insist on LOTS of theory, he wants me to read sheet music fluently and he has made it very clear that this is more important for now than pure technique/improving my skill playing.
Thoughts? I try to squeeze out as much practice time as I can besides Uni but lots of it just needs to be spent on reading and learning sheetmusic and theory. I'm not complaining, I love his lessons and him as a person, I'm just wondering if I'm wasting time for someone who purely does this as a hobby?
Man /gg/ sure is full of hot-heads today.
Here's my 6 string bass for you knuckle-draggers to throw bones at me over. I play in a tech-death band so it definitely fits the context of the music. Other guitarists use 8 strings but I just keep it in BEADGC. Use the C for the occasional sweeps or popped chord but honestly could've gone with a 5. The 6 looks aesthetically pleasing to me though.
>>61036059
They're definitely a hot commodity.
>>61036754
YES
Pic related, most patrician Les Paul ever IMO
>>61036792
>different bridge
>different scale length
Did you know that even changing the tremolo block in a strat impacts the tone and sustain?
>>61036872
>schecter
>left handed
>6 string
>tech-death
>sweeps
>chords
>>61036872
I personally have no use for a 6-string, but I see why some people would want them. Hell, I play a 5-string and I rarely use the B-string at the moment, but why does it matter? When I need it I can use it and the other 90% of the time I simply ignore it and keep it muted. Literally no disadvantages.
>>61036928
>Did you know that even changing the tremolo block in a strat impacts the tone and sustain?
Sure, not more so than wood though. When you hear a strat with floyd you will still say it's a strat (even with humbuckers), same goes with les paul (they actually have done a floyd version kek).
>>61036872
muh root note
thanks for triggering me shitlord
are the gfs surf 90s any good? they're very cheap
>>61036969
A low string doesn't impact fingering in the same way a high string does. This is less relevant in bass than in guitar though because of the 3rd to 2nd string interval in guitar.
>>61034427
Does that include 9 string guitar players?
>>61036958
Huh?
>>61036969
Yeah pretty much, honestly it isn't THAT handy and I could sorta get away without one in some cases but eh why the fuck not.
>>61037004
Cheers.
>>61036982
>Sure, not more so than wood though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLqIzt2_eIw
>>61037017
I have literally no clue when it comes to guitar, but this was about bass. True, a higher string will it make more uncomfortable to play it like a 4 or 5 string, but as long as it isn't hindering you (which I don't hope when it comes to your main instrument) it should be totally fine. I really don't see why people think they need a 4-string and a 5-string though, you can literally ignore the B-string and it will work just fine without any disadvantages.
>>61033892
What are the settings I should put my amp to to get a cleaner distortion sound?
Sorry, I'm new to electric guitars, and I can only seem to find clean and super distorted which is nice but I want to mess with cleaner distortion.
>>61037127
> I really don't see why people think they need a 4-string and a 5-string though, you can literally ignore the B-string and it will work just fine without any disadvantages.
String spacing, narrower neck, shorter scale. Might make it more comfortable to slap.
I'd love to get a Fender Precision because of the sound although I can get pretty close to it with my bridge humbucker.
>>61037205
Can you put a photo or something of your amp so I can see all your settings options?
>>61036776
>tfw no pic related
>>61037245
Ya, my bad.
It's an amp my cousin let me borrow because I didn't have one, so it's a spare one so probably not the best quality.
>>61034650
I'm in the same boat. My songs are all formulaic and in desperate need of outside input but there's no one near me interested in playing death metal.
>>61037228
You can get 5-string basses with normal string spacing, not every 5-string is an Ibanez SR.
When you're not playing the B-string the overall wider neck doesn't make a difference either, you're not wrapping your fretting hand around the neck.
Virtually every bass nowadays is 34'' or 35'' anyway, both work for 4 and 5 string.
Etc. I've not found a real disadvantage, if you can only afford or if you only want one bass just get a 5-string IMO.
>>61037322
is this b8? with pre gain to the max it's obviously going to sound distorted as fuck
>>61037354
[spoiler]I actually don't know what any of the settings really do, I don't use electric.[/spoiler]
>>61037319
I'm not sure I follow mate? Are you saying I look like this kid or is it some epic reddit meme?
>>61037378
You overdrive the amp by increasing the gain, play around with the gain settings and reduce the pre gain, it should still be distorted but less so than before. That's probably what you want.
>>61035132
what even is this
>>61037393
Fedoras on top of fedoras on top of fedoras, it's le ebin meme xdddd
>>61037326
>if you can only afford or if you only want one bass just get a 5-string IMO
I agree with that part. 5 string basses are usually 35" though. I think I'd enjoy getting a 34" Precision, but I don't really need it and wouldn't change mine for it. My top priority gear wise right now is a high end Flying V so the bass will have to wait.
>>61037378
Gain is basically distortion. Less gain, less distortion. Fiddle with the post gain too, just in case it sounds good. Is that a solid state amp?
>>61036846
Theory is pretty important, whether it's worth THAT much time is up to you honestly.
>>61036894
Right from the same website
>" I had to twist Bob's arm to accept $5.00 for his 7 minute fix."
Keep reassuring yourself Bugera hasn't addressed this problem and name brand gear is twice the value.
not even shilling
>>61037444
I'd assume so, doesn't seem like a tube amp
>>61037444
>5 string basses are usually 35" though
Erm, no. Plenty of 34'' models out there, and they're not hard to find either. Also, the difference is not huge. I guess it's less comfortable for smaller people but I'm a bit taller than average and 35'' is totally fine, the difference to 34'' is negligible for me.
>>61037393
tbqh I'm just killing time m8,
I have pussied out of suicide too many times,
now I just shitpost
>>61037255
nice dubs
>tfw no pics relateds
>tfw nots a metals gods
>>61037468
I don't think that really helps me though, lol. Does anyone else have an opinion in the matter? >>61036846
>>61037523
It's better, it's transtube.
Recommendations for pretty acoustic songs to play that have arpeggios and whatnot?
>>61037555
>that strap stud placement
pic related
when you respect the dubs, you get trips. Checking.
>>61037584
Don't make jokes about the mentally ill, that's not funny!
I finally found the perfect height for my bass AND I found a great solution when it comes to managing the cable with the strap, I'm way too happy about that.
>>61037584
daily reminder that gluing tubes on your solid state amp does not make it a real tube amp
>>61037555
>fretboard is painted white and not using maple
A metal god would know which tone would to use an when
Do dudes who play with a light overdriven tone just have to pick the absolute shit out of their strings 90% of the time? I thought I was a heavy picker, but my regular picking technique sounds tame in comparison when trying out tones with less gain.
>>61037798
>fretboard wood changes the tone
Is this a meme on here or are people seriously this retarded?
>>61037013
I have one, they're very good.
>>61037748
Daily reminder that $20 Fender makes $2000 mesa a shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-xnERu21zg
Pro tip, everything sounds the same
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4l605_1pC9s
>>61037837
Yes, it does
the frets vibrate differently depending on which wood they're placed in, anybody but a complete amateur knows this
>>61035913
The Pro-Jet is fine since you probably want jangly sounds for indie and pop too. Can't go wrong with it in that price range.
Something with p90s could work too. Like a Gibson Melody Maker or a Les Paul Junior/Special with p90s. You can find those used in a similar price range.
This is what I would get:
https://reverb.com/item/1393500-gibson-les-paul-double-cutaway-2005-faded-cherry
>>61037748
daily reminder that transtube doesn't actually have tubes
>>61037798
actually it's bakeds maples
>>61037891
>miniscule differences that are only visible on a spectrum analyzer
>relevant
Pick one.
>but I hear the difference!
Placebo and a bunch of bullshit. Holy shit the snakeoil is real.
>>61037891
>the frets vibrate
I have bad news about your guitar, anon
>>61038051
the frets oscillate when they absorb vibrations from the string
you'd know this if you weren't a complete amateur
>>61033892
>play music
How's my bass technique? Am I doing it right?
vid(replacedot)me/yJ6P
Is it a bad idea for someone who doesn't know how to play guitar to learn how to play one song? It looks maybe a little difficult but then again, I can't even read sheet music. I'm also missing a string.
>>61038099
See: >>61038040 you pretentious shithead, the discussion is DONE, "tonewoods" are nothing but snakeoil/marketing. You need a spectrum analyzer to make the difference visible, it makes absolutely no difference to the human ear and is not relevant.
>>61035570
Depends of the kind of boutique. If you get a boutique version of a production model but customized, like a Les Paul with a Fat Strat configuration or a set neck or neck thru Strat with a Kahler or tune o matic, that's different from getting a boutique Les Paul or Strat done to stock spec.
>>61038116
only problem I see if you're using a guitar that's been converted to a bass
>>61038132
Nah, go for it. I wouldn't go bragging but there's nothing wrong with it.
>>61036504
You're right for the most part, but don't discount the effect of the feel of the finishes. Nitro feels different than poly does, and that's how a lot of people can tell them apart. Not saying it makes them sound different mind you, but some people will still insist that it does.
>>61035638
I use either the octave on my RP500 for real time or I apply Reapers pitch shift post recording. Reapers pitch shift sounds better but can't be used too well in real time.
>>61035788
Doom sounds fine on single coils, just gate that shit.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU34wdgHSOA
I have been trying for so long to get a guitar tone that is similar to the lead sound at around 00:35 in...any suggestions /mu/?
>>61038268
I assumed the blind test would be only listening while letting other guy play.
>>61038379
line 6 pod on insane
>>61038407
The lead, 'bell' sounds?
>>61038471
JC120
>>61038485
any other ideas?
btw what do you guys think of ibanez SR basses
i might buy a 400 or 500
>>61038379
Sure that isn't a keyboard with a fair bit of delay/reverb? Because that's what it sounds like.
>>61038563
They're not bad for beginners
Why are there so many shitty guitarists?
I've only been playing for five or six months but I've easily surpassed many of the other guitarists in my dorm. I'm not even good yet, but all they can do is strum the basic chords and barely sing and some of them have been playing for years. How does this even happen?
I don't see how you can play for that long without improving.
the strangest thing is, none of the pianists have this issue and many of them are very good, and they all get better continually. But it's not so for the guitarists.
>>61038563
Great basses if you're transitioning from a guitar to bass. I'd grab a used 500 and you'll be laughing.
>>61038587
It is a keyboard. But I am confident I can at least come close to the tone
>>61038563
Ergonomics are great, but the lower end SR models have "meh" PUs (licensed Bartolinis made in Korea) and kinda bad preamps.
>>61038550
roland gk-3
Quick, /gg/, talk me out of this one
http://www.thomann.de/es/dean_guitars_axs_performer_a_e_silverburst.htm
Or help me find something better for under 200€ please: http://www.thomann.de/es/guitarras_dreadnought.html?filter=true&price-first=100&price-last=200
>>61036846
All that theory may seem excessive, but mastering it will mean you can be VERY versatile and play competently in a LOT of different styles. That matters if you are intent on playing professionally.
As a semi/related anecdote about the value of theory, John Densmore of the Doors told in his autobiography about how he HATED practicing all of his drum rudiments and jazz exercises, but as he got into bands and playing professionally, he could instantly see where that practice time went-he could use his drum kit not only rhythmically but artistically, using his kit to take songs in compelling directions while still keeping time.
>>61034815
Major scale and its modes.
What acoustic things are fedora?
>>61038590
They don't practice, and they barely play at all. Many of them say they want to get better, but they never put the work in.
It's the people who treat the guitar as something they can do when they're really bored, or even worse, something they can use to look better to other people. It's not something they're actually passionate about
>>61038633
I was thinking something along the lines of an instant lofi junk and an EQ
>>61038756
the loog
>>61037473
>not even shilling
Of course you aren't, Mr. Bugera Rep, and let me guess: we should all be ashamed for even daring to use pictures to point out the obvious defects in your products, shouldn't we?
Go suck on a shotgun
>>61038756
>harp guitars
>acoustic basses
>nylon string
>>61037891
7/10 respectable b8, anon
>>61038902
>tfw I want all of those things
>>61038902
>nylon string
I've literally never seen a serious guitarist in-person that used nylon strings
But harp guitars are cool
>>61038708
Okay, guess I'll just be patient and keep learning then. It's pretty unlikely that I'll be a professional musician at any point in my life but I guess being versatile and understanding music makes it easier to find a group of people who are willing to jam with you.
>>61036176
it looks like a sperm whale
>>61038132
No, just replace the string. Guitar is an incredibly easy instrument to learn.
quantum grisham
As a newb I have a question, why do some basses have 24 frets while others have 21 or even less? Why would you ever want less frets? Even if you aren't using them, why take away that option?
looking for tips/ideas on how to improve my improvisation with the modes.
Here is some fucking around in d dorian
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0J0tVGr6Abr
>>61036928
>Not having dedicated controls fit the humbuckers and single coils
>Patrician
>>61038902
>nylon string
they are common here where our folk music is based around that sound
>>61039210
don't worry about modes
learn how to solo over chords
>>61038590
>the strangest thing is, none of the pianists have this issue and many of them are very good, and they all get better continually. But it's not so for the guitarists.
guitar attracts the most casuals by far
>>61038272
im using audacity
>>61038132
Jesus christ yes, don't do it, it's a horrible idea. The Council Of Guitar Players For The Music Heritage must authorize you first to make the obstacle race that will give you access then, if you are man enough to finish it, to the Music Learning Permission Badge.
>>61039206
cuz muh height of faggotry
What are essential scales for a /meal/fag to learn?
>>61039352
Don't forget on counting your calories.
>>61039352
Major and melodic minor.
>>61039206
>Why would you ever want less frets?
pickup position
>>61039323
I don't get your memes. So 24 frets are stupid? Or is it 21?
>>61039226
>Not having dedicated controls fit the humbuckers and single coils
>>61039352
phrygian
>>61039416
That makes sense, but I'm fairly certain I've seen quite a few basses with 21 frets that don't need the extra space for the pickup.
>>61039210
Find what makes the mode stand apart from a regular major or minor scale. D Dorian is basically D minor with a B instead of a Bb, so make that B shine in your playing. You're kind of just gliding around the scale aimlessly. You need to mean the notes you play, don't just let your fingers decide them for you
Also work on phrasing in general. Most of what you're doing is just eighth note runs, get more creative with your rhythms
>>61039323
>implying
it's not adding a high string, it's not the height of faggotry
I'm the one who started the "extended range guitars are the height of faggotry" thing and even I don't have anything against 24 frets. My bass has 24 frets.
>>61039272
ok any thoughts on this?
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1RatiQLtDZv
>>61039398
>Don't forget on counting your calories.
>not your carbs
filthy casul
>>61038891
kek, edgelord.
Fixing a burnt connector is about as mild as it gets for repairs. Oh nos, don't pay $200 for a bugera
>people don't pay way more for marshall, ampeg, fender and run into junkers
>vintage sunn and other shit isn't so old it can run into a handful of issues
classic doublethink
>>61039210
Stop fucking around with modes and just learn the notes in the chords you're playing over.
http://vocaroo.com/i/s0AM0SGcbyKe
>>61039297
I just don't get it
How can someone call themselves a guitarist if all they can do is strum
>>61039352
Minor
Harmonic minor
Hungarian minor
Phrygian
Phrygian Dominant
Diminished
>>61039352
harmonic minor; it's all over classic metal
>>61038590
don't overrate yourself first of all
with that said, i don't know what it is exactly, but guitar seems to attract shit heads more than any other instrument.
i think a lot of guitarists don't progress and get stuck because the guitar is pretty fucking complicated for a beginner. the beginner stages of something like a piano is much easier than the beginner stages of guitar.
the piano is a much more logical instrument. with guitar you have to memorize all these ridiculous chord patterns and fingerings and scale patterns, it's a lot of mechanical memorization.
>>61039607
Believe me, I'm not overrating myself. I know I'm not good yet.
I just also realize that many of the people here are somehow worse
And I'd disagree, when learning if you just start learning songs you can pretty quickly intuitively pick up on a lot of things, especially technique. Once you have decent technique you can start learning modes and stuff and by that point you can keep yourself entertained by playing songs etc
>>61039555
>>61039272
Don't listen to these guys. They're probably just assblasted that they can't into modes
>>61039607
You don't have to memorize any of that shit if you'd bother to learn how to read music on guitar. Guitar is a very easy instrument to learn and guitars are cheap. That informs the guitar's ubiquity and thus all the shitheads that play it
>>61039313
Audacity has built in pitch shifting too. I used to use it to transpose songs in standard tuning to D standard so I could jam to them in D.
>>61039662
why would someone learn modes if they can't play over a chord progression properly and actually express themselves within that? how does that make any sense?
this mode meme needs to go away
>>61039662
>can't into modes
Modes are only utilized in guitar because most guitarists can't be assed to actually learn how to read music on their instrument. Modes are a piss-poor shortcut that lead to wanking, a poor understanding of theory and cliche lines and melodies.
>>61039715
sheet music for guitar is complicated especially for a beginner, the simple fact that you can play the same thing in the same octave in multiple locations kind of fucks with the whole process
Anyone else find it infuriating that all the major guitar companies DON'T sell their original necks? I mean, what's the point of having a bolt on neck if I cannot replace it if it broke?
>>61039808
i think a lot of guitarists get stuck in the whole mode meme bullshit because all these fucking morons on youtube keep repeating how everyone needs to know it and how important they are
95% of these guitarists that learn them just end up knowing how to play a major scale in different positions because no one explains what to actually do with these modes once they memorize the pattern
day in day out i see all these questions on here that ask 'what mode is this song in 'what mode is he using here' 'what mode is this progression in', and 95% of the time the songs are simple diatonic progressions that aren't using anything modal at all
>>61039716
FUCK, sorry i meant cubase
>>61038590
I noticed this too, I'd attribute my learning fast because I wanted to cover Steve Howe songs and that man is a fucking legend, so I had to learn a lot of techniqures I might have not have if I didn't have that goal in mind.
However, I feel like i'm hitting a brick wall, after scales and basic music theory, what else should I learn?
Also, is there a reference for what chords can be played at what fret and what note they produce?
>>61039466
Those are longer scale, and still some may be all the way up to the fretboard. But for one thing it's a matter of complexity, an overhanging fretboard means the neck pocket depth has to be just right, the neck has to not have angle to it, which depending on bridge design may be necessary, and even if it isn't necessary some will want the capability to adjust this angle for preference, distance of strings from pickguard/pickups (in the case of unadjustable pickup height). There's probably some reasons I'm not thinking of, but there's the basics. Also, style.
>tfw i suck at guitar
i'm ready to give up
>>61040484
How long have you been playing, how much do you practice?
>>61040545
off and on for ~ 5 years
just started really trying to improve in the last few months
i play for an hour or so each day
never had any lessons
Not him but this in here >>61039482 is what I hate the most of learning guitar and music theory. "D Dorian is basically D minor..." D Dorian is fucking D Dorian, if you change one thing, even a little thing, it's not D Dorian anymore. If the guy is asking about that mode in particular, don't come with that shit just to prove you know your shit. If the B must shine, he will realize it on his own or will play the notes that tell him the most, not what it's supposed to "shine because the theory says so".
And fuck me if it's not more practical to call it "D Dorian" than "Basically D Minor With A B Instead Of A Bb".
It feels like the tone gets lost in my strat's trem. My shitty LP knockoff has a fatter tone
Am I shit at playing strats or is this normal?
>>61040869
strats feel like shit, play like shit, and sound like shit
>>61040310
>Also, is there a reference for what chords can be played at what fret and what note they produce?
learn the CAGED system if you want to get into that. it's good for understanding those basic major and minor chord shapes and how they relate to each other up the neck. focus mainly on the chords, the arpeggios those shapes produce, and the notes within those chords, the scale fingerings and patterns the caged system teaches are kind of hit and miss, some work, some are just retarded.
once you get passed the major/minor chords and start getting into seventh and above chords (basically anything with more than 4 intervals) the whole caged system completely falls apart. but it's good for very basic majori/minor stuff.
over time you'll just know without thinking where the notes are
>>61040869
If you think a strat and LP of any kind will sound similar, you're going to have a bad time.
>>61040725
Are you me?
On and off for 6 years, just started up trying hard to improve last week. No lessons
>>61040816
You're really getting your nuts twisted up about this. Nothing about what I said is wrong, you just have some autistic aversion to how I said it
>>61040987
how are you trying to improve? what are you practicing? i don't even know what i'm doing i'm just playing the same chords i always played but i want to learn scales and arpeggios and dank shit like that
>>61040986
Only thing that annoys me is palm muting. Even with gain I don't get as deep of a sound.
>>61038132
Considering that's how most people who aren't born into music start I'd say it's a fine idea.
>>61038116
You need to get a LOT cleaner. Practice your left hand muting and keeping your right hand picking as clean as possible.
One of the things you need to know that nobody else here will tell you is that as a musician playing a bass instrument, your attack is going to be slower than the instruments around you, as is your release. In order to just stay on time and not sound sloppy, you need to keep your notes tight and almost staccato. And your attack needs to almost anticipate the note in order to get the sound to come out of your amp on the beat. Work on tightening up your notes via finger tension on your fretting hand, and that practicing of your articulation will serve you very well in a band situation.
>>61041054
And you won't ever. They are completely different guitars and tones.
>>61035078
Because single coils haven't been accepted in metal since iron maidens singer was a baritone
In my case, I want to get better not so much at technique (which I should, but fuck it), but at getting good at melody and how chords and the different parts of a song (verse, chorus, bridge and shit) relate to each other.
I've been reading that learning on tension, dominants, subdominant and the related stuff is where it's on. Any reliable sources or advices?
>>61041167
>your attack is going to be slower than the instruments around you,
wait what? how does that make any sense?
i dont play bass, but that sounds like bullshit
>>61041048
I'm going through this site:
http://www.justinguitar.com/en/BC-000-BeginnersCourse.php
Just doing a ton of exercises to improve technique like playing scales with a metronome, trying to get faster without making errors (which is really frustrating since i haven't been improving at all). Not actually trying to memorize scales yet, just trying to be able to play them at all.
As for memorizing, i'm trying to get the 7 majors across the fretboard
http://www.justinguitar.com/en/ES-052-LearnTheNotesAllOverTheGuitarNeckUsingOctaves.php
Knocking them down 1 day at a time while trying to improve my speed in locating them with a metronome as prescribed by the video.
>>61035585
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a9OJoOPgGQw
I dont know about you anons, but all of my mates who play in drop tunings are shittier players than i am
>>61039551
>vintage sunn and other shit isn't so old it can run into a handful of issues
at least they don't catch fire and burn down your house
>>61041222
that is called harmonic/diatonic function
the basics are fairly simple but once you start getting into like jazz or something it can get really fucking complicated with borrowed chords, substitutions, secondary dominants... yea. i'd say it's an even biggest rabbit hole in music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln5O1LuItrs
>>61039352
All of them.
They use scalar and modal runs as well as arpeggios in lieu of songwriting and melody. They can't do that if they don't know how to play their scales and modes. They'd have to rely on their songwriting skills to carry them through, and lord knows that isn't happening.
>>61041383
>borrowed chords
That shit is awesome. I've seen it at a Fake Dr. Levine video and it's beautiful. The theory where that falls certainly is what I want to learn.
I'm gonna take note of the name of the subject.
>>61041448
it can get extremely complicated and you need to understand the basics before you start getting into that, imo at least.
always start at the basics and work your way up
>>61041250
I think the idea is the bass has a tiny "silent attack" on the lower strings and depending on your technique, kinda like pulling and then releasing the string. But otherwise that anon just has a bad setup that has delay or isn't picking up the attack of his instrument well. Maybe certain EQ settings would cause only the ringing note and not the attack to be audible, however I would think that if you're using a setting like that you would want to play lightly and let the amp do the work, which would prevent the issue.
>>61041447
>arpeggios in lieu of songwriting and melody
underrated banter dude
>>61039973
Oh they do, it's just that it's a special order you have to arrange directly with the factory, and most people don't bother with that.
>>61040900
edgy
>>61040869
there's a scale length difference among other things. LP can't twang, strat can.
>>61041317
at least 'geras don't have death caps that will kill you. See if I don't kek when you become a light bulb.
>>61039873
>sheet music for guitar is complicated especially for a beginner
Yeah but tabs aren't
Tabs are incredibly easy to understand
>>61041250
It's the concept that since the frequencies you are playing are lower, it takes longer for the human ear to register the notes you are playing. It's a very familiar concept that's all over the rest of the musical world. Bass instruments need to be MUCH more cognizant of their articulation than the instruments that inhabit higher registers.
Consider:
When a guitar plays their standard E chord, the root note in the middle of that chord is vibrating at a little more than 160Hz, and the high open E string is vibrating at over 320Hz. Meaning it only takes 1/160th of a second for the ear to start to register that it's hearing that E-that's virtually instantaneous. Move that down 3 octaves to the Bass's low E string, and now it's not 320Hz, it's just over 40; it takes 1/20th of a second for the ear to start to register that it's hearing that low E-that's 1/10th of a beat at 120BPM, and it gets worse the faster ou go. If the bassist plucks that note at the exact same time the guitarist does, he'll sound like he's coming in slightly after the guitarist, because it takes a longer time for the bass notes to sound, meaning he'll sound like he's behind the beat even if he technically isn't.
The solution to this is to have the bassist anticipate the beat and play just a tiny bit ahead of it, so that when the sound comes out of the speakers, it is in sync with the rest of the band.
is there a neat guide or graph or anything that shows you dank chord shapes you can move up and down the neck wherever the fuck you want
>>61042214
You know al lthe basic chord shapes, yes?
Place a barre behind them at the proper distance and you can move them ALL up and down the neck as you see fit.
There. Now you know all about barre chords.
>>61042214
>>61042297
Same with the second string. Do a major or a minor chord shape, ready? Now move everything one fret to the left or to the right. Done. You played the major or the minor chord of the note that are before or after the note your were rooting.
>>61035132
Get fucked.
post god tier tones
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgyp_Jd0DPM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XDuJVSdWy_g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmWi1er_7Bw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRAJqdZcz5k
>>61035788
>>61035913
>>61035704
While Humbuckers would make doom a little better, it would make the other genres you want to play a lot harder. I would stick with single coil, I've played Doom on a Jazzmaster before and while it's not ideal its certainly better than playing Indie rock on a LP
>>61039437
Autocorrect. Not having dedicated controls *for* the humbuckers and single coil. 250k pots and .047 cap for the single and 500k pots and .022 or .033 cap for the buckers would be ideal and would fit in a standard Les Paul control pattern.
>>61042297
>Place a barre behind them at the proper distance and you can move them ALL up and down the neck as you see fit
Holy fuck, I'm an idiot. I've been playing for 10 years and I've never thought to do a C or G shaped barre chord until now
>>61040056
I don't have any experience with that but I assume it has pitch shifting too.
>>61042432
It's really that simple. If you play an F chord starting on the 6th string you are actually playing the same as if you were playing an E chord except that you are using a barre for covering the open notes on the E chord.
Try it with the traditional D chord and move everything two frets higher. Boom, there is your E chord starting from the 4th string.
>>61042432
dont worry senpai it took me a while too
>>61041682
>implying it's a hard fix
Anyone here ever play a SUB Sterling Silo3? Thinking about getting one and putting new pickups in it, played it at guitar center and it played better than the USA Strat and Les Paul I had played just prior that were 5x the cost. Does it hold up well?
>>61042044
>When a guitar plays their standard E chord, the root note in the middle of that chord is vibrating at a little more than 160Hz, and the high open E string is vibrating at over 320Hz. Meaning it only takes 1/160th of a second for the ear to start to register that it's hearing that E-that's virtually instantaneous. Move that down 3 octaves to the Bass's low E string, and now it's not 320Hz, it's just over 40; it takes 1/20th of a second for the ear to start to register that it's hearing that low E-that's 1/10th of a beat at 120BPM, and it gets worse the faster ou go. If the bassist plucks that note at the exact same time the guitarist does, he'll sound like he's coming in slightly after the guitarist, because it takes a longer time for the bass notes to sound, meaning he'll sound like he's behind the beat even if he technically isn't.
wtf dude
any personal accounts from people that learned guitar later in life? i'm 20, not musically talented, but want to learn as i feel that soon i won't have the time to ever even try soon.
>>61042676
sry for the cliche cheesiness but it's never too late to learn something you enjoy
>>61042425
pretty sure they solved it in some smart way
>>61042676
the bassist in our band only just started playing a month ago and he's doing fine. Sounds like he's been playing two years. It's never too late amigo ur fingers will learn
>>61042676
Tom Morello of RATM learned in college.
>>61034427
Periphery, Veil of Maya, Dissipate.
>>61042676
I'm 27. I started at, I don't know 19? 20? And by "started" I mean playing "Symphony Of Destruction" riff on my brother's acoustinc, nylon-stringged guitar.
Got an electric a couple of years after. Then I pretty much left it abandoned because I was stuck on understanding theory.
Somehow, some clarification came to my brain and I started flowing where I was stuck before and I'm really looking forward on learning more and improving my technique. But, over all, I want to find chill people to play with.
>>61042044
Just be ready to edit all of the bass player's notes in post. Or just record bass the way the Smashing Pumpkins did.
>>61042738
>learning to buy pedals in college
Has gg been around that long?
>>61042640
Welcome to physics as it applies to musical instruments in the real world.
For a bassist to be right on the beat he actually has to be playing a little bit ahead of it. And for a bass note to sound like it's releasing on time, he needs to release it a little earlier than the rest of the band for the same reason-it takes longer for a heavier string to stop vibrating than a lighter string.
>>61042432
the full G and C shapes are pretty weird to barre quickly. most people just use the upper parts of those chords
for the G shape, you just use everything above the A string. the full D major chord at the 10th fret using the G shape would look like this 10-9-7-7-7-10, most would just drop the lower notes and use x-x-7-7-7-10, so it basically just turns into a type of A shape chord.
>>61042913
Is there a way to measure those 1/140th of a second of difference between guitars and basses? I mean for improving and eerything...
>>61042913
are you implying that one needs to hear a whole cycle to start hearing a given frequency?
>>61042980
use a ruler
>>61042738
Tom Morello's not really a good example
He first picked up a guitar at age 13, shortly after starting his first band.
>>61042676
thanks for the responses. gunna buy a cheap guiatar or something over winter break and start going at it. we'll see how it goes...couldnt button a button until like 7th grade so im def at a disadvantage haha. but at least if i try and fail i won't be sitting 20 years in the future like "damn, i totally couldve played guiatr"
>>61042980
It's a learned skill. Honestly, it's something you can only hear as it pertains to synchronization with other instruments. The bass is just naturally slow to sound; you have to get used to that and compensate for it. If you do, you'll make the band sound incredibly tight and locked in; if you don't, you're just another dumbass bassist.
>>61043000
Listen to small slices of a low bass note in a DAW-it takes a little while to hear that note. It may not be a full cycle, but there's no doubt it's a lot longer than it takes to register the same note in a higher register.
>>61043101
Just dont get a Squier Bullet, they may be cheap but theyre so bad that there difficult to play. The frets are poorly clipped and the neck is pretty thick. Its worth taking a step up to the next model up (that is, if youre gonna buy a squier)
>>61043101
playing guitar will definitely make you better at using your hands if you stick with it
>>61036496
cool thanks
>>61036555
why are you here
>>61042676
>20
this is not "later in life" to pick up an instrument
>>61041560
Yeah, especially when it's easier to just get one from GFS or Warmoth.
>>61042676
>20
so old xDD
>>61042718
Probably used 300k pots and a .033 cap.
