Whats your favourite hip hop album without rapping?
No, its not ''instrumental hip hop'' because hip hop began as an instrumental genre for the first few years, it should be ''hip hop'' and ''vocal hip hop'' if anything.
>>60876010
>hip hop began as an instrumental genre for the first few years
who told you that?
>>60876031
Every Kool Herc and Grandmaster Flash interview.
>>60876043
herc used to rap though
>>60876060
So what.
>>60876074
so when were these 'first few years' you're talking about?
>>60876010
finger of ze metal
>>60876103
When it was Herc DJ'ing in the Bronx for Bboys to dance to and escape gang culture, occasionally just shouting out to hype the crowd.
>>60876152
that was in 1973 though, and he was rapping from the start (alhough they called it toasting then)
the last poets and black messengers were a couple of years before that as well and they used rapping too
>>60876249
Rapping, toasting, MC'ing, flyting, call it whatever you like, that had been around for centuries as a vocal technique with nothing to do with hip hop which Herc started.
>>60876351
you seem quite certain
but hip hop wasn't coined as a term until the late 70s, maybe 78 or 79
and it referred to the culture and not a musical genre
>>60876382
Based on many different sources from people who were there. Were you?
>>60876415
can you quote me one of these sources? because i think you're wrong
>>60876444
I literally provided it ITT from Herc himself. I'm waiting on you to provide well, anything.
What don't you believe? That Herc started hip hop or that ''rapping'' is centuries old (with a different name).
>rapping
vocal technique
>hip-hop
music style
most rappers do their rap on a hiphop beat and most hiphop beats are accompanied by rapped vocals but they only largely overlap
many rappers rap to house, reggae(ton) or other beats
trip-hop is an example of a hiphop subgenre that rarely includes rap.
>>60876459
i don;t think it was as definite as you think it was
taki was getting up as early as 66, definitely 68
last poets were rapping in 70
herc was mixing beats in 73
the term hip hop was coined (some people say by cowboy, others say by fab 5) in the late 70s
interestingly initially a lot of rappers rejected the term hip hop as a product of manhattan media, but accepted it after a couple of years
Sixtoo & Norsola - Homages
>>60876514
Theres lots of hip hop with no rapping than just trip hop.
ITT: white people trying to define hip hop music from a time they never lived
Only white people care about labels such as whats really hip hop and what is "vocal" hip hop.
>>60876010
I wonder what it's like to be this autistic
>>60876673
I just wanted a thread about hip hop music without rapping.
>>60876552
enjoy this OP, because I hate to spoil it for you buddy, but about half of the albums in this post are total garbage
>>60876647
>example
>hur durr there's more
I didn't know "example" had suddenly become a difficuilt word.
>>60876718
>100 albums
>not the best example you could get
How can you be so retarded?
