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>babby's first art pop
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>art pop
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>baby's first greatest achievement in all of mankind
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>>60612848

lmao pet sounds fags are this delusional
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baby's first troll thread.
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baby's first art folk
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>>60612862
take it back you punk
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>>60612814

WHAT do people see in this album? It is literally just pop rock. There is nothing remotely interesting about it except >muh unconventional instrumentation which doesn't matter because it still sounds like cheesy pop rock with terrible lyrics.
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>>60612862
Here's your reply
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>>60612928
and heres yours
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>>60612814
>art pop
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like seriously it's a 7/10 at absolute best, and that's being really generous
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Superior album coming through.
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>>60612912
... by God if this little record didn't change only the course of popular music, but the course of a few lives in the bargain ... nobody was prepared for anything so soulful, so lovely, something one had to think about so much.

—Stephen Davis in Rolling Stone, June 1972[6]

Pet Sounds expanded the field of music production.[10][11][12][13] In 1971, publication Beat Instrumental & International Recording wrote: "Pet Sounds took everyone by surprise. In terms of musical conception, lyric content, production and performance, it stood as a landmark in a music genre whose development was about to begin snowballing."[154] The album's historical distinctions include being the first rock record to incorporate the Electro-Theremin, an easier-to-play version of the theremin. Its inventor Paul Tanner performs the instrument on the song "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times".[75][155]

"God Only Knows" unusually referred to "God" in its title, a decision Brian feared would be seen as blasphemous.[56][156] Professor of American history John Robert Greene stated that "God Only Knows" remade the ideal of the popular love song, while "Sloop John B" and "Pet Sounds" broke new ground and took rock music away from its casual lyrics and melodic structures into what was then uncharted territory.
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>>60612912
>what is instrumental and long-lasting influence over the course of nearly every convention in pop with lyrical and melodic innovations that were practically unheard of in mainstream pop records in 1965/1966
History 101, kid
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>>60612912
He furthermore called it one factor which spawned the majority of trends in post-1965 rock music, the only others being the Beatles' Rubber Soul and Revolver (1966), and the 1960s folk movement.[157] The New York Observer wrote that "Pet Sounds proved that a pop group could make an album-length piece comparable with the greatest long-form works of Bernstein, Copland, Ives, and Rodgers and Hammerstein."[64] Author Geoffrey Himes believes: "The challenge for the pop songwriter is to mirror real life's conflicts in the song and still deliver the satisfying resolution pop music requires. Bob Dylan did it by introducing irony into rock'n'roll lyrics, and Brian's introduction of non-standard harmonies and timbres proved just as revolutionary. ... Most pop music unifies its lyric, melodic, harmonic and rhythmic devices so it can communicate one simple emotion as powerfully as possible. ... This unified approach can be quite satisfying, but it can't reflect the complications of adult emotions in real life."[37]

According to music journalists Stephen Davis and Nick Kent, Pet Sounds was the first rock concept album.[158][6] Bill Holdship said that it was "perhaps rock's first example of self-conscious art".[149] According to Jim Fusilli, author of the 33⅓ book on the album, it "[raised itself] to the level of art through its musical sophistication and the precision of its statement",[159] while academic Michael Johnson said that the album was one of the first documented moments of ascension in rock music.[160] It is viewed by writer David Leaf as a herald of art rock genre.[161]
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>>60613002
>>60612991
>>60612983

>It was influential so that means it's good!!

fucking drones
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>>60612912
Vernon Joyson omitted the Beach Boys and Pet Sounds from his book The Acid Trip: A Complete Guide to Psychedelic Music on the basis that they "essentially predated the psychedelic era."[60] Music journalist Jim DeRogatis said that it was one of the first psychedelic rock masterpieces, along with The Psychedelic Sounds of the 13th Floor Elevators (1966) and Revolver.[57] Writer Bill Martin felt that it aided in the development of progressive rock at a time when the Beach Boys "brought expansions in harmony, instrumentation (and therefore timbre), duration, rhythm, and the use of recording technology".[11]

It's been said that, although hardly anyone bought the Velvet Underground's records, those who did ended up being inspired to start their own bands. In the case of the Beach Boys' 1966 opus Pet Sounds, it's likely that each of its 13 songs inspired its own subset of pop offspring,
—Jeff Straton, New Times Broward-Palm Beach, October 2000[162]

Pet Sounds is frequently cited by both critics and musicians as the greatest rock album of all time. Advocates include MOJO magazine and Paul McCartney.[149] Although not originally a big seller, Pet Sounds has been influential since it was released.[163] In 1995, a panel of top musicians, songwriters and producers assembled by MOJO voted Pet Sounds as the #1 greatest album among them.[164] Artists and musicians have revered the album as a remarkable milestone in the history of popular music.[165][166][167] These have included the Beach Boys' contemporaries Pink Floyd,[168] Cream,[147] The Who,[nb 16] and The Beatles.[166][171] Pet Sounds later inspired many progressive rock bands, and in 2010 was listed in Classic Rock's "50 Albums That Built Prog Rock".[172][173]
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>>60612983
>>60613002
But that one guy on the internet said it was bad mang
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>>60613022
'Why do people like this album? It's just [ludicrously reductive summary of its contents]'

'>people liek this this album because [explanations of the album's merit], hurrrr, durr lol get a load of these fucking moran sheep'
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>>60612981
Imagine if Brian went through with it in the 60s
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>>60613081

>explanations of the album's merit

all you're doing is citing critics and pop stars claiming the album is a masterpiece because it used some special harmonies in its three-minute diddies, oOoOoOo so avant-garde.
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>>60612814
*babby's first fart poop
ftfy op
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>>60612973
Until you start looking into the technical side of it, like those crazy polychords, bitonality, and Brian being off key most of the album.
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>>60613250

like I said it doesn't matter what the technical side of if it still sounds like mediocre pop

I swear all these pet sounds fags must have come from reddit this year, the album was nowhere near as loved in the past
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>>60613179
No, all I'm doing is pointing you to literature on the topic that people have already written out for you 30 years ago. If you can't see why Pet Sounds is a landmark piece, then you have a terrible ear for music. The only thing you can do now is actually listen to pop rock from 1966 and see if you wake up one morning with the revelation that, hey, wait a minute, Pet Sounds is totally incomparable to any other music going on at that time, let alone pop rock like Herman's Hermits or the Monkees.
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>>60613310

key phrase: "at the time". it doesn't hold up today, whereas many other rock albums from the 60s do.
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>>60613304
>I swear all these pet sounds fags must have come from reddit this year, the album was nowhere near as loved in the past

as overrated as Pet Sounds is, it's still better than the trash /mu/ used to circlejerk over like Hospice and American Football
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>>60612912
but how can you tell him
that his musical taste could be better
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>>60613337
Of course it holds up today, the fact that younger artists today are still obsessed with the album and recording pastiches of it is a testament to the fact. You probably listened to the mono mix. Go listen to the Pet Sounds Sessions for the stereo mix and the making-of in-the-studio excerpts.
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These videos are pretty cool if you want to learn more about the making of Pet Sounds

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofByti7A4uM
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Absolutely fantastic album. Still play it pretty often, especially with Levitation coming up.

From a singer's standpoint, it's absolutely top notch. The melodies and delivery, heartfelt lyrics, and harmonies are so great to sing, fun yet meaningful.
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>>60613002
>Implying that the first concept album isn't rubber soul
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>>60612912
>muh unconventional instrumentation
It's not just about that, the way they used the more conventional instruments is exceptional for a pop release, some of the arrangements are simply perfect. The lyrics are simple but meaningful for the most part, far from terrible.

It's certainly not art pop but if you were looking for something more like that give Love's first album a listen.
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