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https://twitter.com/spencerpratt/status/664202492721283072 This piece Spencer Pratt tweeted exposing Grimes's album as a vanity project similar to Reality TV stars like Heidi Montag/ Kim Kardashian/Paris Hilton might give you a new perspective on the record....
there is nothing good about Grimes and I think less of anyone who likes her or her music
>Grimes is an example of someone who makes “smart pop music” that is tailored for the "music intellectual"
jesus
idigi. thanks for nothing op
>>60315949
Do you agree with that?
i think art angels is alright
but everything grimes says just makes me hate it a bit more
>>60315892
Please stop posting shit about frank grimes
Pic related: mfw people talk about frank grimes
when academia bullshit and vapid pop collide
>>60315892
i will not read this article because the premise is fucking stupid
all art-making is vanity, op....
>>60315892
You've been a baaaaaaaaad MONKEY! Cum for Grimes, now bitch!
>>60316044
this
>>60316028
It's pretty hilarious that Grimes is saying it's not pop music.....
>>60315949
people just take every chance they get to listen to pop/top40/easy listening, it's why critics commend albums for being "accessible" etc.
>>60316026
i was thinking no, but reading on he's comparing to paris hilton, disney stars, and so on, so i guess maybe? still, saying grimes is "tailored for the music intellectual" sounds weird as hell.
writing intellectually about pop music usually turns out pretty cringy
>>60316089
>tfw you release vaporwave is 2010s easy listening
in all seriousness though easy listening is great, pls bring me more ferrante and teicher, listening to easy listening is totally subversive
>>60315892
that article went fucking nowhere
All this misogyny!
The article didn't need to be that long for the point he was trying to make which was hard to read in the first place because of that retarded editors note
That article changed nothing
tl;dr for anyone who doesn't want to read some fag's overwrought clickpiece: actual top 40 pop & shitty vanity projects by celebs are better because they're more sincere
the 20 year old that wrote that shit definitely posts on this board. this is some next level poptimism. have people really gone from name dropping obscure, hard to get into musicians to literal reality tv stars for music cred?
>>60316247
how does grimes differ from other musicians? music is and has been her main focus from college onward, it's not like she was a reality star who "gained an interest" in music and bought out studio time for an unsolicited album. I'm not sure where this article is coming from.
>>60316278
To be fair Heidi Montag's album is amazing. Give credit where credit is due.
>>60316282
the idea is that the reality stars' albums are more interesting because they are basically outsider music, while grimes is just making calculated pretentious pop
>>60316171
yeah it really kind of just supported the stereotype of reality stars wanting to fabricate a pop career, but didn't really do anything except display the facts of the matter. like, yeah we know pop music used to be some plastic, ugl, sparkly female party romp, but it didn't do well of contrasting the past with the current state of poptimism and the whole unauthentic SEEMINGLY authentic style the likes of Taylor Swift and XCX are using. i still feel like Grimes is trying to con us, she said she scrapped the first version of this album for being too commercial and then she gives us this. so either that 1st draft was REALLY commercial or she just gave up and said fuck it
>>60316368
kind of like that 16 & pregnant bitch or whatever who made porn and one of the weirdest albums i have ever heard
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVmJg2gPobs&list=PLOy-69B2O4foRKvm5IiroXrM0wGnr3aBU&index=1
>>60316368
Yes, that's what I think too and she is conning everyone clearly.
>>60316432
These girls are more industrial/like Trent Reznor than Grimes who claims she is "the female trent reznor" LOL
>>60316368
i feel like reality star's music is typically designed to ensure their place in the pop landscape continues on, so it's usually ultra-derivative. usually it ends up taking the form a club dance track or something, like the album mention in the article. or maybe there's an example i'm missing
>>60316432
sounds like outsider Crystal Castles. I dig it desu
“I think there’s an aspect of pretty much every interview I’ve gone into over the last year; they’re like, ‘So are you going to be a pop star?’ And I’m like, ‘No, I’m making this record by myself. I’m on an independent label, this is independent music; most of this record is, like, industrial and, like, screamo. It’s not pop music. … And the headline the next day is, like, ‘Grimes wants to be a pop star.’ And it’s just … like you guys wrote these stories before you ever talked to me. It’s like there’s a media narrative that is really intense and really, really inaccurate, that no matter how many times I say the opposite … just gets more and more powerful. And I’m just really fed up with it. It just really sucks to have the media constantly painting you as something that is so incredibly far away from, like, what you are.”
Even as she cops to making a handful of "rococo pop" songs on the new album, Boucher is adamant that she isn't a pop artist. "Pop music is made by teams of people," she explains. "I make independent music. Not just because I want to exist in the alternative, but because I think it's important not to be artistically indebted to anybody if you want to stand for something. I want people to start thinking of me like Trent Reznor."
“I think it’s really just about the fact that I’m a female. Then it’s like, oh, it must be a sell-out, it must be pop,” she says. “If you look at men who do similar things, the narrative doesn’t run the way it runs with me.”
>>60316659
and then this happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqa9xx2vBQc
>>60316697
Or this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6FtANdbPeM&index=15&list=PL36s5RMA9G3_2etFUbO8Ntbkfcpwpwx7y
Opinions aside, this is a terribly written article.
how is this not pop music?! lolololol
yup i agree but i feel like the dude who said this in the thread "
the idea is that the reality stars' albums are more interesting because they are basically outsider music, while grimes is just making calculated pretentious pop" said it better than this writer could
>>60316659
>most of this record is, like, industrial and, like, screamo
holy shit is this about art angels? what
like in what world???? this sh*t sounds like avril lavigne
Didn't she also say she was writing Bowie-inspired glam rock tracks, when she started picking up that guitar? Wonder what the hell happened to all those empty promises.
