I know poptimism is SUPPOSED to mean that you don't automatically assume that just because something is popular doesn't automatically make it bad, and that you should give all music a fair chance, but why has /mu/ taken it to mean HURR ALL POP MUSIC IS FUCKING GREAT AND ANYONE THAT LISTENS TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN TOP 40 POP CHART TOPPERS IS A FEDORA TIPPING NECKBREAD
>>60315887
That definition makes for better shitposting.
>>60315887
because /mu/ is full of underage faggots.
Can't we just all get along?
>>60315903
>>60315887
You got the first part right.
The second part isn't exactly right unless you say "pop is cancer and msismaksmains" in threads.
>>60315896
>shitposting
>better
hue
>>60315917
>msismaksmains
What?
>>60315950
It's like typing out essays on why "pop music is cancer and what not".
Not assuming that something is bad because it's popular is called being open-minded and nonjudgmental. Poptimism specifically refers to the appropriation and possible overintellectualization of pop music by indie critics/fans. (See: every review Pitchfork posts of Ty Dolla $ign / YG / Fetty Wap / etc where they have to go out of their way to showcase the artist as "experimental" and "forward thinking" and make some comment about "what we really want out of pop music")
>>60316032
Eh fair enough
in an ideal world, poptimism should just mean that you're open to singles, EPs, compilations, DJ mixes, etc. instead of just albums
but no, /mu/ has to ruin everything and make it a battle between carly rae jepsen teenybopper shit and "muh albums"
>>60316063
What happens when /mu/ kids realize that pop artists release albums too?
>>60316063
but anon emotion is one of le best albums of the whole world because it's *kind of* vaporwave stop being such a baka xDDd
>>60316084
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting, etc
>>60316296
Fite me
>>60316675
No, don't shitpost
>>60316073
/mu/ kids still only listen to pop albums though
they take a rockist approach to pop
>>60316063
How would that definition of "poptimism" make sense? Doesn't have anything to do with the word.
Anyway CRJ is a beacon of light in the otherwise dark, dark world that is /mu/.
>>60316798
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>>60316939
because one of the central tenets of rockism is this devotion to the lp which has been the cornerstone of rock music for the past 50 years
poptimism is saying that music can exist outside of the rockist view and still be good ie singles and compilations
>>60316032
best definition I've seen so far
>>60316063
meh not really, because tons of underground/experimental artists release the same shit anon
>>60316063
there's nothing wrong with EPs
singles and the rest of that shit are just stupid
>>60317124
You're a pathetic loser
>>60315887
"POPTIMISM" IS A STUPID MEME AND YOU'RE A RETARD FOR USING IT
>>60315887
>but why has /mu/ taken it to mean HURR ALL POP MUSIC IS FUCKING GREAT AND ANYONE THAT LISTENS TO ANYTHING OTHER THAN TOP 40 POP CHART TOPPERS IS A FEDORA TIPPING NECKBREAD
Because is /mu/ is overcompensating for its shit taste.
Btw, /mu/ isn't nearly as poptimist as it once was. That era passed and has been picked up by reddit at /r/indieheads, hiphopheads and lewronggeneration. Unfortunately, they crosspost here.
>>60316032
No, poptimism at its core is what you stated at first. The only reason it's called poptimism is because "indie critics/fans" have a history elitism within their culture and have systematically dismissed pop music for being pop music. While I can understand the mentality behind it, that mentality simply can't hold in a time where the pop sphere and the indie sphere are equally accessible to pretty much anyone and are actually influencing each other. And for that, I give it credit. Music should not be discredited just because it is either pop in the sense of a certain style or pop in the sense of shorthand for popular, just as it should not be credited for either of those things.
The real problem is that now that you don't have to reject pop music, people are overzealous to accept it. For publications/critics to be "cool", they used to have to say "look how obscure our taste is!" Now, they're saying "look how accepting of pop we are!" They're just latching onto whatever the new trends are, like they always will because that's what's going to earn them the most money.
