I just cried to this album
now I understand why you guys love shoegaze so much
>>60266446
how do people cry to this? great album but i cant understand
Just let the feels wash over you.
>>60266446
Just album is my head at any given point during the day
what song and why?
>>60266521
Am I having a stroke?
only faggots cry
>>60266525
when you sleep made me miss my ex so much that I couldn't contain the feelings anymore desu senpai
>guys
>>60266446
What You Want is the perfect sonorous analog to sex. Specifically sex on drugs. Specifically sex on ecstasy. The warping guitars and ethereal vocals emulate the simultaneously sad and beautiful feeling of being in love. Above, the dreamlike synth-thing is obviously the astral plane which we can never reach (we can never listen to it's entirety, we only get bits and pieces of what's going on in accordance to what the more immediate melodies are doing) but we can get glimpses of by achieving ecstasy (through sex). And it's the straightfoward, "hard rocking" drums that are just about violent enough to keep the whole thing earthbound and remind us that sex, in all it's beauty, is always a power struggle between two kinetic forces of excess.
>>60267053
is this copypasta from an undergrad philosophy paper?
on cold days, i like to put on "loomer" and wrap myself in a warm & comforting blanket of noise. never cried to it though. "sometimes" is also pretty powerful
>>60267099
just my feelings, my man
>>60266446
>crying to music
are you fucking gay or what
>>60267172
well hey, i thought it was an interesting idea. i hadn't considered it, thanks for sharing
>>60266446
>>60266602
Souvlaki and Nowhere are better and have greater feels
>>60266446
This is the next thing you should listen to OP. Welcome to the supreme genre that is the gaze
>>60267675
>le souvlaki is better meme
Scaruffi disagrees
>>60268213
Oops forgot the link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEqL3lIaZq0
>>60266446
Listened to this album about 5 times now and I still can't get into it. Help.
>>60267675
Lol at Nowhere being mentioned in the same breath as Souvlaki and Loveless.
>>60267675
Literally euthanize yourself my man
>>60268232
Listen to it louder.
I can't make it to the end of To Here Knows When, makes me think of my mom
RIP
>>60268213
it really isn't that great of a genre, though.
after Loveless, Souvlaki, and Pygmalion there really isn't anything that live up to those
>>60269242
>forgetting Slowdive's best album
>>60267053
>>60266446
Which did this happen, op?
>>60267675
idiot
>>60267675
Absolutely not. There is no album with greater feels than Loveless. Souvlaki is a great album, but it's certainly not a feels album. It doesn't envelope you in its loneliness in quite the same way.
This album is so overrated
>>60272294
Seconded.
>>60272294
Thirded
>>60272294
fourthed
>>60272294
>>60272309
>>60272317
>>60272327
dont know wat u guys really mean but
overrated =/= not good
its still great
>>60272332
It's okay. Maybe a 5.5/10.
>>60272332
No it's an album of mediocre pop songs, infantile guitar, shit incomprehensible singing all drowned in effects and reverb. It deserves none of the accolades it has ever received and has been an album that beta hipster leeches have latched onto for, oh 20 plus years now, to seem novel and innovative.
>>60266446
I am making a call to action, let us never post this album image again for at least a few months and allow the dust to settle. too many people on this board think this is a meme and too many of you fuckers play along. posting his name in random threads and calling everyone out on being him. if youre a fan of this album, then do Kevin a favor and dont allow this shit to become a meme. most of the people who are playing along with this joke havent even listened to it. lets stop this, right now. this isnt meme-tier, its just trippy hip hop. if its like this now, imagine how bad this meme will be a year from now. plus, only mu is even aware that this shit exists. lets give him time to build a fanbase before we have a thoughtful discussion of this album because until then the entire thread will be meme praise meme hate and meme samefag calling. i rest my case.
>>60272346
its at least a 4 out of 5
u just dont get it or u dont want to get it cus its ''overrated'' and a meme
>>60272371
>No it's an album of mediocre pop songs, infantile guitar, shit incomprehensible singing all drowned in effects and reverb.
u dont get it
> It deserves none of the accolades it has ever received and has been an album that beta hipster leeches have latched onto for, oh 20 plus years now, to seem novel and innovative.
u dont want to get it
>>60267053
ahahhhhahahahahahahah
>>60272383
>u dont get it
Please tell me you're trolling.
>>60268232
that means you're not a faggot
>>60272383
you're a pleb if you thi
I understand how people don't like this album. It took me years to like anything on it other than Only Shallow. It's one of my favorite albums of all time now though. Sometimes is one of the greatest songs ever written.
>>60272371
you're a moron and clearly don't know how to listen to my bloody valentine. you're supposed to listen to the vocals/singing as if they were another instrument; to me loveless is a soundscape album and you have to take the whole album as one big line of sound you know, like ambient music or drone? ever listen to that shit?. that's what it's all about. if you don't like it, fine, but this whole post makes it clear to me that you don't know what you're talking about.
>>60272409
did you have a stroke as you were typing
>>60272448
>you sound like a jonathan mathis fan
tell me, what score would you give to pimp a butterfly?
>>60272448
I love MBV fans. They're the best.
>>60272448
I'm not the guy you were replying to, but god damn you're pretentious. Loveless is a pop album full of pop songs. Why judge it as anything else?
>>60272448
nigga I'm not >>60272371 this faggot but if you think this album is more than a 7/10 you're a pleb
>listens to 20 albums
>thinks he knows shit
>>60272406
no
>>60272409
loveless is where pop and experimental collides perfectly, loud and quiet at the same time, it combines everything that should be the opposite in music effortlessly and never fails imo
its the only mucore album thats worthy of its praise and status
>>60272464
I pressed the post button but was still typing fvck
>>60272499
of course it's a pop album full of pop songs but the effects and reverbs and production choices are part of the experience, why would you neglect them because it's "just" a pop album?
>>60272494
i don't even consider myself a my bloody valentine fan, but loveless is fucking gateway shit. look, you don't have to like it, but it seems to me that you guys bashing loveless are focusing on the completely wrong things.
>>60272485
what are you on about here ?
>>60272531
>where pop and experimental collides perfectly
No. It's cacophonous, disjointed and is the epitome of janglecore bullshit. There is absolutely nothing perfect about it.
>>60272531
>uses reverb in every vocal part
>singing isn't even dynamic
>drums and cymbals are muffled 95% of the time
tripfags proving to be fags again
no u didnt
>>60272531
And you obviously don't know shit abou experimental. "Frank Zappa - We're Only In It For The Money" came 23 years before "Loveless" and is a hundred times more innovative. You don't know shit.
>>60272570
>disjointed
i don't think it's disjointed at all, nothing sounds awkward or out of place
>>60272598
>>uses reverb in every vocal part
>>singing isn't even dynamic
>>drums and cymbals are muffled 95% of the time
it's okay if that's not the kind of thing you're into, that's okay, but there's nothing inherently bad about anything here at all. do you listen to any experimental music?
>>60272569
>you guys bashing loveless are focusing on the completely wrong things.
We're focusing on what we want to get out of the music. If I'm in the mood to listen to ambient or drone then I will listen to ambient or drone, not some half-assed pop tunes buried under a fuckton of reverb. It's an album that tries to be everything at once and falls at every hurdle.
>>60272570
so ure saying u dont get it? fair enough
its not for everyone but i already knew that
to say its bad is really excessive tho
>>60272598
loveless isnt made to be analyzed thát objectively
this record is the epitome of performance over composition
i thought it was pretty obvious? jesus fuckin christ
>>60272652
>We're focusing on what we want to get out of the music
okay, i understand now, thank you for clarifying. ya reverb drenched pop is something i got bored of a while ago, but i still enjoy mbv. what kind of pop do you like?
>>60272643
>>60272659
Animal Collective, Ash Koosha, Battles, Björk, Black Moth Super Rainbow, The Book Of Knots, Clarence Clarity, Coil,Flying Lotus, Frank Zappa, Graham Lambkin, Mr. Bungle, Neurosis, Panda Bear, Vampire Rodents. This are only some favorites. Now what do YOU know about experimental, arrogant prick?
>>60272687
dude you need to relax, there was no ulterior motive or arrogance on my part at all when i asked what experimental music you're into.
but anyways idk how to answer that. i like a lot of electronic shit
>>60266446
I am making a call to action, let us never post this album image again for at least a few months and allow the dust to settle. too many people on this board think this is a meme and too many of you fuckers play along. posting his name in random threads and calling everyone out on being him. if youre a fan of this album, then do Kevin a favor and dont allow this shit to become a meme. most of the people who are playing along with this joke havent even listened to it. lets stop this, right now. this isnt meme-tier, its just trippy hip hop. if its like this now, imagine how bad this meme will be a year from now. plus, only mu is even aware that this shit exists. lets give him time to build a fanbase before we have a thoughtful discussion of this album because until then the entire thread will be meme praise meme hate and meme samefag calling. i rest my case.
>>60272723
I'm saying that this album is too "square" to be considered experimental. There's a lot of pop'ish albums that are much more "loose" than this. It's pure 4/4 "on-beat". The only thing that makes this album good (and by good I mean 7/10) is the wall of sound that it builds with the guitars' textures combined.
>>60267053
>sex
>on ecstasy
what are you smoking senpai
>>60272687
ehhh right
most of the things uve mentioned are... lets just say owkey-ish
now heres the thing with u zappa lovers, if i would post my overall chart right now, u would bash me for liking pop and completely ignore everything experimental and "lesser known"
so i give u these links to show u wat im into:
>http://rateyourmusic.com/collection/BAYAR/strm_h,ss.rd/experimental/1
>http://rateyourmusic.com/collection/BAYAR/strm_h,ss.rd/experimental%20rock/1
btw i can really why u think loveless is bad after listing those artists
>>60272915
look at what I wrote >>60272822
>>60272822
i agree with you completely. tons of people and bands out there do the whole noisy pop thing a lot better than mbv, and yea i know what you mean by "square" although i don't think it's as stiff as you think it is. you don't have to have a completely non-linear composition/sound in order to be experimental, but yeah loveless is pretty on-track.
(hope i'm making sense here btw, haven't had my coffee yet)
>>60272969
thanks god you now understand my point
>>60272969
aw fuck i said i said i agree with him completely and then i went and said i don't agree with a certain notion
goddamn i'm sleepy
>>60272945
THIS
ALBUM
IS
NOT
FOR
U
yet
try again after 2 years, maybe then ye?
>>60272993
NO bullying
>>60273056
not bullying you anon, you're a cool dude/girl
>>60273056
ass fuck retard bitch meant to quote
>>60273017
>>60273017
yeah yeah tripfag, get out
>>60273068
I KNOW I KNOW FUCK I DIDN'T MEAN TO QUOTE YOU AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
wasnt bullying at all
couldve ripped his taste in ''experimental'' music apart
>>60273091
>hes tripping so he must be bad
read my previous posts u lazy cunt
ure asking for it
Loveless isn't that complex it's just boring
I won't be "trying again in a few years" tyvm
>>60273152
How many albums have you listened to this year? What is your equipment for listening? You're a fucking pleb that acts agressive only to try to show others how you think you're better than them.
>and if it's below 300, get out of here
People in this thread are being stupid. Loveless is a pretty good album. If you took away all of Kevin shields' pedals, sure, the songwriting is pretty damn simple. the focus isn't the composition, it's the sound itself. The wall of distortion thing was pretty innovative, and influenced a ton of modern musicians, for better or worse. Whether or not you respond to their sound is subjective. What sounds grating to some might sound beautiful to another. That's just how music is. While I'm not gonna stand up here and say that Loveless is a really "well-written" album, it does what it sets out to do very well
>>60273192
Kevin go to bed
>>60273192
check >>60272822
>>60273152
>couldve ripped his taste in ''experimental'' music apart
no dude, no. bad.
>>60273187
beyerdynamics, the best ones
i have almost 1700 albums in my library right now
carefully selected cus quality > quantity
ive listened and tried way more tho, im just picky
how old are u btw? im really curious rn
>>60273248
heh
>>60273377
I'm 20. Using Momentum's now, don't have money for better ones.
>>60272687
>>60272915
pure cancer
>>60273466
enlighten us with your superior taste, please
>not being ironic
>>60273425
aight cool, im 24 btw
i didnt mean to sound like an elite, i usually avoid doing that shit anyway
so im sorry, i just get triggered when people try to shit on this album
>>60273466
i would say the same thing if i hated popular music just for the sake of hating it
get lost
>>60266446
hows your first day on /mu/? like it so far?
>>60266446
There are some tracks on m b v that are better than those on Loveless, but it's not a better album. I'd give the first half of m b v a couple listens too, and focus on the crazy guitar layers in the first and third track.
>>60266446
op cried wut a fggt
>all these people saying Loveless is bad/overated
>>>/reddit/
>>60272687
loool, and you think you know experimental? everyone of those artists, even though some are good, are entry level
>mfw I heard Loveless twice yesterday
>mfw it still gives me massively joyous feels despite having heard it 200+ times
>mfw nothing else comes close
To Here Knows When might be the best song of all time.
>>60273485
>>60273519
you are the fucking cancer
dipshits
I still like their post-punk stuff better, even though I really like sunny sundae smile, it's so simple yet so expressive.
This image is so depressing.
>>60275740
>>60275740
the gaps are under a minute pleb
>>60266446
I want to rape someone while playing this album. They'll wake up tied up and I'll turn it on and give them four hard slaps to the face, all in perfect time to the snare intro. Whatever happens after that, I don't care.
>>60275740
>>60275778
>>60267053
Well done anon.
>>60267675
contrarian detected
>>60266446
Souvlaki is the superior one.
>>60266481
dude weed lmao
that's how people cry to this album
either that or listen to Sometimes when you're depressed and it'll rip you apart
>>60275740
damn, you beat me to it senpai
>>60275061
Nah, we still comfy
