I'm making an anti-normiecore chart.
>Criteria: Must be sincerely weird and actively trying to flabberghast the average music listener. Cannot be autist shit like Merzbow, who makes music for his own reasons.
So far I've got Ween, Captain Beefheart, Zappa, Daniel Johnston, Wild Man Fischer, and GG Allin. Any suggestions?
The Residents, Caroliner, Sun City Girls
Tom Waits?
>Daniel Johnston
>Actively trying to flabbergast
Daniel thinks (and is correct) that he's making completely normal pop music, with the intention of making pop music.
The "weirdness" is the schizophrenia and lo-fi recording.
Jandek
>>55629927
Wouldn't sincerely weird be the opposite of trying to flabbergast the listener, as in it's not something the artist attempts whatsoever, just something they do naturally?
>>55629895
Michel Chion
>tfw you unironically enjoy Ween for their sonically creative pop songs and people on /mu/ accuse them of being only a "random" comedy act
Seriously guys have you ever noticed how incredibly catchy Pure Guava is? How can you like Ariel Pink and not like Ween?
Anti norm course should appropriate the outsider name.
I also feel like "indie" is a label that has lost all meaning and could be replaced by outsider
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outsider_music
>>55629948
Correct.
I would argue that Wesley Willis could qualify, since his music is to weird out demons.
>>55629895
This thread was a horrible idea, and you are a terrible person for making it.
Scott Walker's most recent stuff might be good.
Also, Mr. Bungle's first two albums.
>>55629954
Deaner and Geaner are just great songwriters with a sharp sense of humor who happened to have ingested a lot of hallucinogenic substances.
>>55629954
>people on /mu/ accuse them of being only a "random" comedy act
>things nobody has every done
>>55629895
All metal
Prog except Pink Floyd
>>55629932
this
>>55629895
This thread was a good idea, and you are a wonderful person for making it.
>>55629995
I'm starting to see it happen in 2015, and it's depressing.
>>55629954
I get what you're saying, but their serious music like Quebec (and Birthday Boy along with some of White Pepper) is heartbreaking and genius, IMO. If you could save yourself, Zoloft, and I Don't Want it all made me cry. They are far from a novelty act.
the parable of arable land
red crayola
>>55629995
>>55630024
I saw someone compare Ween to Tim and Eric on /mu/ as early as 2013.
>>55630065
The Comedy is a good film
I dont think ween are novelty comedy act, they are an act that doesnt take themselves too seriously all the time
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYTpU80KYpU
But when they do get serious its great
>>55630065
That's not necessarily wrong or even insulting.
>>55630065
Well, when they're comparing a band to a television show, I don't think that necessarily means they're claiming the band is exactly the show.
The Simpsons is the TV equivalent to the Rolling Stones but I'm not saying the Rolling Stones are an animated sitcom band.
>>55629907
These are exactly what you're looking for, OP
>>55630091
I agree, but that's Rick Alverson's doing, not t&e
>>55630091
It's not a Tim & Eric work though. They just act in it.
>>55630139
Woah there man, Keith Richards still seems like a total bro to everyone but Mick Jagger, there's nothing like that about the Simpsons.
The Red Krayola
>>55630797
cuck
>>55630797
>>55630064
sheeeeeeee
Taytay
Kendrick
Kanye
The Jesus lizard
John Zorn, Fantomas, Okay-Huggable dust, z-rock hawaii, niandra lades and usually just a t-shirt, incredible string band
>>55629979
bingo
https://dave-roland.bandcamp.com/album/carnival
outsider is always anti-normie.
Falling in reverse, bless the fall, Asking Alexandria, Blood on the dance floor.
>>55630836
All these too.
hijokaidan, merzbow, david allan coe, ulver
>>55630877
>>55629988
Checked.
The Mothers of Invention were pretty anti-normie. And they're a little different from pure Frank Zappa.
Pretty much every one of their albums. I'd probably say their last two being the most against the grain for the scene they were originally a part of
>>55629954
ween is my favorite band hands down and idt i've ever seen /mu/ have anything but reverence for them tbh
>>55630870
I think the story about Dave Roland attracts people more than this music does. But you can't have one without the other considering that album deals with his trauma.
Pop example
USA USA USA
Univers Zero - Heresie
Hampton Grease Band - Music To Eat
Current 93 - I Have a Special Plan For This World
Stick Men With Ray Guns, The Nig-Heist, I think Eyehategod started out trying to be this, Drunks with Guns, and Butthole Surfers up to Independent Worm Saloon and still a bit after that...
Hapopy falling hard on the flabbergasting side of things
>>55631007
shitload of other No Wave bands as well Daisuck & Prostitute, Bachikaburi, Theoretical Girls, and DNA being a few that immediately come to mind
>>55631027
I don't know man, it's pretty hard to find someone who doesn't find tiny tim endearing.
>>55629895
>Zappa
>Beefheart
>weird
oh man.
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>>55630931
>attacking The Beatles openly
edgy. not very weird.
>>55631288
yup, EBM seems to be safe from normies because of how "nerdy", "dated" or "gay" it is (pick which bullshit criticism you want)
The Swans
TFLU 282, Chrome, Brainticket, Gravitar, Huntsville
>>55631257
People who've only heard Tiptoe, Livin' in the Sunlight and his covers
not stuff like Daddy, Daddy, What Is Heaven Like? Stay Down There Where You Belong or https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1se9xbRRZL8
>>55631303
If the cover art is all you're going by
>>55631278
To a normie they're pretty fucking weird.
>>55631320
More electro-industrial but yeah, I've heard "its scary" and "there's no rhythm to it"
Germany's Residents
Butthole Surfers EP, it's weird enough
>>55629895
Not sure if this is quite what you mean, but Burzum and Mayhem and Immortal etc literally pioneered an anti mainstream genre, it's called black metal lmao
>>55630877
>not knowing if that's an obvious troll or genuine shit taste
Do you people not understand that every single person in this thread IS a fucking normie?
>>55631303
Sounds like you didn't listen to the album
>>55630836
I was getting mad that you were suggesting The Jesus Lizard wasn't normie-core but then I saw the rest of your list and realized it was a troll. 3/10
>>55631567
Dude, everyone on 4chan is a special snowflake. We're not like tumblr or reddit, where everyone follows the hivemind, we're free thinkers who do what we want by ourselves.
>>55631278
You're telling me Trout Mask Replica is not weird?
I'm interested in Ween. What album should I start with? Some Ween fan manna list all their albums and give a short description of style and opinion of it? Would appreciate it.
