Is this the closest pop music has ever come to becoming art music?
Yes, thank you for this weekly reminding, OP.
Not even the best Beach Boys album.
>>55546695
Obviously not. There's plenty of very experimental pop music out there.
>>55546718
experimental doesn't mean what you think it means.
>>55546730
Explain?
Nope
Sgt. Peppers is.
No because the definition or art music does NOT include making popular albums for public consumption for a start.
SMiLE, smiley smile, song cycle surf's up, love you, and adult child are more arty
its probably the shittiest BB album
wild honey is their only good album, and it's a very weak album compared to any beatles album
>>55546730
>experimental doesn't mean what you think it means.
In that case, art music doesn't mean what you probably think it means.
>>55546931
>wild honey is their only good album
look at this pleb
>>55546931
>its probably the shittiest BB album
apex kek
Who in their right fucking mind would actually say that Pet Sounds is the shittiest Beach Boys album? I don't think you can even fathom how try-hard and contrarian you sound.
>art music
Art music—also known as formal music, serious music, erudite music, or legitimate music (sometimes shortened to legit music) —is an umbrella term used to refer to musical traditions implying advanced structural and theoretical considerations and a written musical tradition.
>experimental music
Experimental music is a compositional tradition that arose in the mid-20th century, particularly in North America, of music composed in such a way that its outcome is unforeseeable.
Pet Sounds is neither.
>>55546843
This was in 1966. Brian Wilson was in the unique position of being immensely popular and in a position that no one else had ever been in in music while attempting to explore his intellectual interests and elevate pop music with albums like pet sounds but more so with smile. He was bringing musique concrete, avant garde production techniques, psychedelic sounds and themes and spirituality to music with the help of the joycean lyrics of van dyke parks and the art of frank Holmes, he was using the medium of the LP as his canvas, taking LSD, and using his position as THE eccentric music genius in the 60s to do something no one had ever done and no one has ever done since
>>55546948
you should listen to more music
and stop with faux do whoop with poor mans beatles
Laurie Anderson in general, but this release is a bit more "arty"
>>55546963
shut the fuck up nerd
>>55546695
Why does Al Jardine always look retarded?
Literally thought they just let a mentally challenged person sing with them in the "don't worry baby" video.
What About The White Album?
>>55547284
beatles were far superior than beachboys
you'd have to be delusional cuck to think otherwise
>>55547284
20/20 > the white album
i know you plebs won't agree, but it's ok, i know i'm right
>>55547205
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y-0nWVdBH4
>>55547332
nah
beach boys were the greatest band to ever exist
>>55547332
>implying George Harrison isn't the greatest cuck in music
Scott. Walker.
Why not both?
>>55547341
haha ok :)
>>55546801
lmao
beatles worst album?
>>55546801
hahahaha
>>55547003
For sure, brother.
>>55547009
Stop trying so hard. You're actually making the assertion that fucking Surfer Girl is a better LP than Pet Sounds. That makes you sound like an utter parody of a person.
>faux do whoop
toppest of keks
I don't think you've actually heard the album.
>>55547009
lmao plen
it's for sure one of the most intricately composed pieces of pop music, but there's plenty of crossover between the two in 20th century music, such as the works of George Gershwin or Burt Bacharach for instance.
>>55547003
>>55547990
>post filled with information and facts related to the matter at hand that supports a reasonable argument
what exactly do you want people to do when they argue?
>>55547867
maybe not worst but pretty bad and uninteresting. I enjoy beach boys but they were pretty low tier band of the 60's
>I don't think you've actually heard the album.
yeah because beach boys is so obscure...
>>55547990
Seriously, that was well written, and a perfect counter argument. Why is /mu/ full of children.
>>55548047
>but they were pretty low tier band of the 60's
All Summer Long, Today!, Summer Days and Summer Nights, Pet Sounds, Smiley Smile, Wild Honey, Friends, and 20/20 are all incredible albums, some of the best I've heard from any artist in any era
>>55548047
>yeah because beach boys is so obscure...
No, because your description of the music as "faux doo-whop" is wrong. It's like calling Station to Station "faux-punk".
>>55546695
Probably.
But just because it's art music that doesn't makes it good. You know that right?
>>55548017
Anything but win apparently.
>>55548092
>>55548092
>>55548017
>samefagging this hard
>>55548092
>>55548017
I'm the guy who wrote that post and owns these >>55547735
This is why I haven't been to /mu/ in years
>>55548139
whoops meant to post these books >>55546459
>>55548121
>beach boys
>art music
>mfw I thought we'd get an awesome art pop thread
>But then I realized it's /mu/
>>55548165
what would you call them then
>>55548182
faux do-whop
>>55548182
They were essentially the definition of popular music for that era, so popular music obviously.
>>55548136
you're precisely as retarded as your first post led me to believe.
>>55548165
I never said they were art music lmao. Just that they're probably the closest pop music act to reach the advanced and complex ways of art music. It's still not art music though.
But seriously, just because something is art (or art music) that doesn't makes it good . All music is art but most music is bad.
>>55548210
The dissonant strings on It's Raining Today are a stroke of absolute genius.
3 and 4 are both contenders for this thread.
>>55548238
nice mspaint crop, fagit
>>55548245
>most art is bad
ftfy
>>55546695
no, this is
>>55548266
>implying I'm going to waste more than five seconds of my life on a literal retard
function over form, friend.
>>55548245
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WOW! Clearly pop turning towards art! Genius!
>>55548291
How is the weather in Turkey?
