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still trying BoC but getting something else.
https://clyp.it/hlzss5me
>>54328396
>https://clyp.it/hlzss5me
sounds like early 90s afx with 80s ballad drums
i think you're getting nearer to the roundness of the synths, it sounds better than before
>>54328541
thanks. i think it's a mix of me utilizing the wet of my plates to try and get the sharpness of the highs out of the way, i also threw in a high pass filter on the synth to get the major ones out of the way. i pushed the drums into mono for more space but then dual tracked it. the EQing is a swing and a miss because it's not a graphic but a parametric, called the SlickEQ. i also pushed the dynamics a bit with a molot comp. it helped as well, but the trade off is dynamic range, although i think that's a plus for the vintage effect.
>>54328683
ok so i think i know what i'm having a problem with. it's presence. everything is sitting in the back of the mix. i still don't know what to do though...
>>54328791
it's very difficult to retain presence and still have a sense of spatial depth/roundness - this is usually the key to the analog sound and not just drowning out the highs that many people seem to think
i think you should be careful with stock EQs because they tend to be quite 2dimensional, like you're just adjusting the EQ spectrum of a flat screen hidden behind a curtain. better EQs tend to bring out or push back things more
maybe try a passive EQ, there are some good algos around
>>54329236
is there one in particular that stands out?
>>54329236
sorry maybe i should clarify. is there one that does a good job emulating analog in the context of treble control without any "digital harshness", giving warm low end and a sparkling top when cutting or pushing.
the one i'm using is this https://vladgsound.wordpress.com/plugins/slickeq/
>>54328370
Where do you guys get stock samples? Footsteps and silly noises and shit. I need it for some film work.
>>54328370
The mix is never perfect, anon.
>>54330206
unless you need crazy quality there are a few sfx channels on youtube that have thousands+ sfx. also I just collect/steal them wherever I end-up. I've raided HDs and CD collections from various studios and such. I got like 40gigs of (mostly) high quality SFX for free nowadays.
You could always get into foley too, that's fun. But it's not gonna help much for the bulk of sound design work
>>54330587
I have like 4gb of samples and only remember about 10% of where what is.
>>54330206
freesound can sound pretty pro after some slick editing.. remember to filter for the 0 license if you dont wanna worry about attribution and clearing etc
>>54330206
Foley is pretty fun depending on what you're doing. Movies are like 70% footsteps though, but you can find plenty on YouTube like other anon said, just gotta do a bit of searching for the best quality ones
>>54329647
softube trident and plugin alliance's SPL passeq do a pretty good job
>>54330694
I spent hours and/or days once cataloging, naming, and organizing all the files once... it was a massive pain in the dick but at least helped somewhat
>>54329647
waves API 550 series are pretty good as well
>>54330965
>>54330769
thanks. i'll try the trident first.
anyone have links to some good free house/techno/garage etc. sample packs?
r u guys cool with guitar stuff?
https://clyp.it/bxxcqsdj
tried mixxing this down to make it sound pro somehow but idk like i have no idea what im doing tbh
>>54330478
Neither are you, or me...
>>54330769
damn the trident isn't available in 64 bit? that's a shame.
>>54331213
Upboat
>>54331181
>r u guys cool with guitar stuff?
Yeah
>tried mixxing this down to make it sound pro somehow but idk like i have no idea what im doing tbh
A bit of compression, i think that the guitar is a bit too present err idk
>>54330841
I've done this once or twice.
Last time I did it I used a bit of software called audio finder it will scan your hard drives for audio and bring up every bit of audio on your computer and hard drives bit like a virus scanner, you can then delete all duplicates of samples etc and tag them all as kick drums, snare drums, hats, synths, loops footsteps etc
Now if I need to find a kick drum I just search for tags kick drum and it will bring up every kick drum I have. It's a really useful bit of software and I'd recommend it to everyone that has audio files on their computers.
There is another one called snapper aswell.
Audio finder also works as a sample editor and will play/preview any audio file you select in any folder once you've found the sample your after tou can send it straight to Logic too which is pretty handy or just drag and drop it into your DAW
>>54331234
>what is jbridger
>>54332530
I hope you're enjoying your constant crashes lol
>>54332739
Another jBridge user here. Only OP-X II crashes and even then, it's just a GUI crash. You can still play the synth.
https://youtu.be/wBJcBH6js6w
How do I mix like this?
I'm sure you guys are familiar with this kind of Saint Pepsi vibe.
How do I get that kind of filter in the beginning? And how do you make that kind of pulsating sound with every kick?
The channel that the video's on has tons of the type of shit I'm talking about.
What do you guys think of this?
https://clyp.it/jknn4xw5
Specifically, how can I not make the flute melody at the end cheesy? I liked the idea in theory too much to let it go but I'm pretty sure I'm going to have to
kinda prod unrelated but when making music i really really like the mixing, eqing, compressing, amplifiing, reverberating, all that shit rather than making synths and making noise. well do studios do apprentice ship for mixing engineers? i don't want to go to college but i like mixing and want to get better and maybe turn it into career if i could.
alright i think i improved on getting the vintage synth sound. not airy but at least rounded out. i'll try to eq ahead of the tape for the silky highs. thoughts?
https://clyp.it/yrmnycta
>>54333375
what'd you use to make that?
>>54333438
this was my setup for the one track. i also had two other reverbs, poor plate and reverbate on really low settings. i'm probably doing a bunch of things wrong production wise, but it's all i know ;-;
anon from the last thread who was debating on this thing here, i just bought it and hooked it up and i'm pretty happy.
it's an audio interface and control surface with a built in stereo mic that actually sounds pretty decent, plus a built in effects processor you can use to effect the input. you can have one of each of the four effects categories active plus an amp sim and a reverb that are separate from those 4 effects and there's a software editor for the effects that you can use alongside your daw to manage the effects and save patches.
i'd highly recommend this to any of you, the guy i bought it off said he got it for less than $200 new. they're already discontinued though (which doesn't surprise me considering i had no clue these existed til i saw somebody selling theirs, but does still surprise me because where the fuck was the marketing for this thing? it does so much for such a good price and the build quality feels pretty solid, no midi in/out but a midisport or something to that effect coupled with this will still be a way better value than just buying an audio interface)
/salespitch
but seriously, if you see one of these floating around whatever used market you keep tabs on, grab it up
>>54333375
yeah you're getting there! a lot of improvement in a short time so have a cookie. just take it easy on the tape hiss, that shit will stack up like a motherfucker on a full track!
try to increase the asperity a tiny bit and play with the spectrum/saturation controls
try the studer 7.5 as well and increase the overbias
>>54328370
a few links are dead thought you might want to know
why do /prod/s keep dying? has everyone just migrated to the irc?
>>54333733
nice man! sounds pretty sweet. I wonder why it was discontinued.. must just not have sold well because it sounds like it works well. Glad it worked-out for you! Hope you get plenty of use and happiness from it.
>>54334003
everyone's having secks with their girlfriends
>>54334003
Probably, seems even quieter in here since irc started. Keep these threads alive guys, I'd be sad to see them go. Get prodding and posting WIPs and chatting about gear and mixing techniques
>>54334027
oh i will
especially since i just discovered that there's also a noise gate built in that you can control with the software. this is almost giving that too-good-to-be-true suspicion lol.
i think their fatal flaw may have been marketing it to guitarists primarily, all the reviews/promo videos/etc i could find about it were all "great for guitar!" "best interface for guitarists!" "guitar guitar guitar!" when it's obviously good for so much more and guitarists as a group are kinda technophobic
>>54334089
>fuck buddy keep messaging me to fuck her
>keep telling her I'm busy with work etc
>she's getting pissed off as I never want to fuck her anymore
I'm spending my evenings drinking beer and making bleeps and squeaks
>>54334198
this dude knows what's up. lets make some bubbleprint basscore.
Do you guys prefer reverb before or after compression? or both mixed?
>>54334198
>tfw guitar player
>tfw I can have sex and record at the same time
feels good man
>>54334311
thrusting into your soundport doesn't count dude.
>>54334192
yeah that must have been the reason, not so much a guitar thing as a general home studio thing. sounds cool though!
>>54334281
i generally don't trust compression around my reverbs unless it's for effect
>>54334089
mine is sleeping, I'm actually making some FM guitar sounds
https://clyp.it/0kirx1i2
>>54334281
>compressing reverb
[mudding intensifies]
>>54334192
>"great for guitar!"
hm that reminds me of something
>>54333241
bumping this
>>54334465
lol seriously? how would they even market this to guitarists? "great for accompaniment" or something along those lines?
>>54334769
Yeah, I think they tried marketing TR-909 for guitarists too.
>>54333241
I'd also like to know how to mix like this. I think the kick is heavy side chaining but idk
>>54334769
they basically said this + the 606 and you had your own band
its massive failure made it very cheap for later acid producers.. the rest is history
Anyone in prod have a volca bass?
I need a bit of advice programming this sucker
>>54334089
Mines at skool
>mfw this place is filled with normies now
>>54334812
>>54335231
interesting, nice to know that there's a rich history of roland making cool shit and marketing it to guitarists
I've downloaded everything in this thread
Now I just have to ask where the hell do I start?
>poor
>no gear
I play in a few bands and actually have a lot of experience working in my uncles home studio but hes not the best I know that. Still question still stands what do I do
>>54336289
What do you play in your bands if you have no gear. Do you just clap along or slap your thigh or something?
Your question about where to start is pretty vague as you have given us no details about fuck all?
If your going to take time to post here and expect people to take time to reply at least give some details.
What is it you want to start?
Do you own a computer/what type is it?
Do you own any music based software?
Do you own an instrument?
do you own any effects units/pedals?
>>54336289
>where the hell do I start
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQ04PwFvui1BCUAE9wxmOqHE51mrDv8Ui
This is our Loomis. See you in three hours, by then you'll understand subtractive synthesis and some FM.
>poor
>no gear
Didn't stop me from becoming a professional. Even if all you have is a phone, you can start producing music. Watch tutorials, read manuals and don't forget to experiment.
Do any of you guys in /prod/ record track-by-track instruments? I play drums and I'm trying to get like a sufjan stevens kind of idea down, but I don't even know where to begin.
What's the best daw for recording live instruments and maybe adding like ambient noise or some shit?
>>54338144
Ive done for a long time
every DAW should be fine for that but i have a pretty easy time doing it in ableton
I'm making a remix for a friend of mine.
Struggling with the mix, trying to make it really bright and wide. also the progression is not that good imo. also doubtful about the drums in some sections.
https://clyp.it/bbg2ynbo
any criticism/comments are appreciated.
>>54334431
lol give me the download for the secret trick
>>54338144
I wish I was competent to lay down a track and be satisfied with it enough to make another track. usually i loop little stuff until I have one big thing I can mess with. but no I don't record instruments.
>>54339277
I do exactly the same. Haven't really got much interest in making whole tracks...seem to be more interested in making my small snippets sound nice
Thoughts? I always feel like I'm missing something...Any advice is loved!
https://clyp.it/ahonf3hh
>>54339541
no I have finished a lot of songs, but it's just small loops making most of the beefiness, and I add synth leads around the end
>>54339686
if you get rid of that "oh" sample and you play with the synth patch it would sound fun
>2015
>Not drenching piano ostinatos in reverb to make them sound deep and mysterious
https://clyp.it/kxzcjmye
https://clyp.it/fica4pyk
is this annoying as hell or what lol
Can you guys rec me a good free granular synth for Logic? I tried one called Hadron but it doesn't seem to be very good.
>>54340280
It is.
>>54340101
>2015
>Not drenching everything in reverb to make everything deep and mysterious
https://clyp.it/pre02rgm
i call this one deanwave. i shouldn't have bussed all tracks to the same chain, i goofed up. oh well i guess i'll give each one their own chain next time. adjusting asperity did help make me notice the effect a bit better. overbias not so much. still got work to do. W&F definitely help give that wobbly tape effect though. damn that's nice.
thanks dean.
https://clyp.it/mnxvz4qi
>>54340805
i sampled this
https://clyp.it/zqutncz5
>>54340854
that volume is pure cancer
>>54340805
dean is so hardcore
>>54333241
bumping this, really trying to get that bassy pulsing sound
https://youtu.be/ET6657PH9gQ
>>54340713
>2015
>Not reverbing everything in reverb to reverb everything reverbed and reverbious
https://clyp.it/kpbzzzjq
what does prod thing of this synthwave sing song? i am gonna try to really saturate the bass and have really strong side chain.
>>54340854
stahp
>>54342400
It's really good.
I'm just annoyed by the constant use of kick-snare-kick-snare drums in synthwave but it suits well your song sooo
>>54342400
hey is it alright if I use parts of this piece for a thing im working on?
>>54342535
thanks. i wanna try to get nice kicks to where that basic beat is nice, but i keep reusing samples and just detuning and thinking it sounds good.
>>54342674
yeah try to DL it here https://www.dropbox.com/s/47m94cclfiiymg1/derem.mp3?dl=0
>>54342381
Exactly
>>54342918
thanks man heres a little snippet of what im working on i sampled a bit of that song
https://clyp.it/4fzhn0vr
Need to make a nu jazz-like crossover track for a photoshoot video. Has to have that Vogue sophistication sound, using retro 60s and 50s swing band feels, combined with electronic drums and synths.
film jobs always throw up good challenges. this shit will need to be polished as fuck. already started a sketch. anyone know a good torrent for kontakt 5? Zero-G Sax Supreme requires it I believe. I'm still on Kontakt 4
>>54343053
dude nice lmao
>>54329588
i've had alot of sucess and good results with fabfilter pro-q
>>54342400
I came here just to say that it sounds really really good. You're doing good anon. Do you have a soundcloud?
>tfw soloing tracks and one track sounds nicer by itself without the other tracks playing
>>54344695
get rid of stuff that makes your mix sound worse
find out what part of each track makes it sound nice, make that part stand out and leave room for it in the mix
>>54344767
yea I took the notes the intruments and the effects that were used and I started something else with that track
>>54343527
thanks, yeah it's soundcloud.com/effoharkay. there's not much of me singing up there right now but there's a few synth songs similar to that one.
>>54333241
comp and gain
like breakbot
how to program in natural piano chords? I can't really play them in because my fingers have autism, but i was wondering how to place the notes. like I place them one after the other the bottom note going first, but If all the chords are like that it sounds funny. i even took off quantization and played around but it still sound pleb. i really don't want these piano chords to sound to robotic and midi
>>54345495
what program do you use
>>54345580
flehstudio
>>54345594
ok cant help you there. theres a humanizer function in ableton, should be one in FL, maybe someone can help you out. but its generally not easy to program it in. the jist is to place them one after the other but not always do the bottom one first, switch it up and experiment until it sounds good and sorta natural
>>54345495
> I can't really play them in because my fingers have autism,
if you'r talking about playing the piano/midi keyboard, it's not the autism, you just need to practice your fingers.
as for placing the notes, many many options. download some classical music midi scores to find them.
>>54345215
>dat com truise sound
>ROTATEGUY
hi /agdg/
>>54334003
i'm in finals week
ends WED, i'll start contributing until then
>>54345840
yea dude i should practice the keys more. I'm going to study some classical midi see what comes of it
>>54345693
I'm gonna hack at that shit until I come up with something
>>54345941
Heolo
>>54345693
turning off the snap is the first step, then have your chords slightly arpeggiate, with the bass note being played first, then the rest of the notes coming in slightly later, with the highest note last.
for example: (pic)
https://clyp.it/u5sghd0c
Helps to know some basic piano technique, like having bare octaves in the bass and building your chords in the right hand (not a steadfast rule, but helps for clarity, having too many notes in the lower register gets muddy)
FL Keys are a pretty awful piano sound imo, might want to invest in a nice piano library if you really want to work with a natural sounding piano.
my nu jazz/swing sketch:
https://clyp.it/xdeyulqn
>>54343028
https://clyp.it/0uhnp2bu
Reverb
>>54346368
>6th & 7th bars
I'm curious
>>54346408
what are you curious about?
>>54346458
How does it sound
>>54346472
There's an audio clip in my post.
>>54346368
looks logical
>>54346497
And i'm blind.
Your nu jazz sketch is great btw.
>>54346611
thanks, my concern is its a bit busy for the job. will use what I learned a start another sketch with less going on.
These are the piano libraries I use:
http://www.reverbnation.com/tomjensen/song/19001618-humble-piano-chords
its the reason piano refil, one of the main reasons I use reason. for the piano sound.
I could have done a bit more to make it natural in on the programming side, the chords aren't apreggiated as much as they could be, so sounds a bit robotic in the middle part. still pretty nice piano sounds, even if they're a bit bassy in this mix
Do any of you have one discovery that you are proud of? Something you worked out while producing and regard it as your own bit of knowledge?
I found that personally I enjoy using heavily filtered guitar samples instead of pad synths. Sounds gud.
>>54347174
yep but i'm not telling
>>54347174
>heavily filtered guitar samples
They really work extremely well as pads with plenty of reverb and not too much dry.
I've been fooling around with overprocessing guitars and came up with some glorious ambient pad sounds yesterday.
>>54347174
a couple. an early discovery was making an ok synth and effecting the shit out of it, and then playing a scale and recording each individual notes, then making melodies out of those recordings
>>54346368
fingers dont always arpeggiate
>>54347782
forgot pic
https://clyp.it/5coujksz
What ya'll think
>>54348521
it's neat-o, but has a weird tonality to it that's aaaalmost working but not quite. the breakdown with the sax sorta thing is cool. mis still needs a little detail work (levels etc) but it's good! i enjoy this
>>54348690
Yeh I see what you mean, I used lots of presets and kind of has this video game music feel which i dont know how to deal with.
>>54348521
samples good
synths shit
kick drowns in the mix
>>54348690
I see what you mean like I used presets on this and I have this video game music tone which i dont know how to deal with.
>>54348806
>>54348843
Well I mean more in terms of the tonal center, i.e. the harmony i.e. the key. It's almost working on a modal level, but not quite, almost working in a major/minor scale but not quite, almost is in one key or another but not quite.
It's like one of the background synths/chords is adding a note to the mix that's ruining the sense of key, or implying the wrong key at the wrong time or something
>>54348818
TEACH ME HOW TO SYNTH
>>54348972
I see what you mean, guess i just gotta practice using my ear.
>>54349060
i guess, but don't overdo it. it's like 90% working
https://soundcloud.com/iamabinder
>ambiet/drone/dark
check it and feedback would be nice.
>>54349103
Thanks bro :)
>>54349161
>>54349161
would be happy to if you upload to clyp.it instead and read the OP in the future
the versilian upright is a great free piano plugin
http://vis.versilstudios.net/upright-1.html
heres a few small patterns i composed using it
https://clyp.it/vegqebxi
you can edit the velocity of each individual note/chord to make it even more human sounding but i havent bothered. check out the website if you want to see some better demos
>>54351206
thanks
>>54351206
it looks like it's VST only and not RTAS/AAX/AU :c
I want to start getting into production and making my own music but don't know where to start.
I have learned very basic things with FL Studio from YouTube tutorials but have no idea what to do next especially with not having any plugins or interesting sounds or whatever to practice or play around with.
Pls help.
>>54351732
>no idea what to do next
you know there was a time before youtube tutorials and easily available plugins and sample packs, and people still managed to learn how to make music
look up some stuff that looks cool on http://www.vst4free.com/
try to do some songs with basic stuff and worry about the rest later
>>54351732
just make things and fuck around with buttons. there's a help file for everything in FL. read the help files if you get stuck, they explain the entire program
open up some of the example songs to see how its done by some pros.
you have to actually do stuff. try to make music. keep trying until you get gud
>>54351908
Thanks dude!
Anybody have any VST's providing realistic sounding instruments?
>>54353424
kontakt libraries
>>54353424
kontakt 5 runs a whole lot of nice libraries
combine that with these:
cker.org/forum/search.php?nm=east west quantum
http://rutracker.org/forum/search.php?nm=spitfire%20kontakt
http://rutracker.org/forum/search.php?nm=cinesamples
and you're starting to look pretty good
I can confirm that Zero-G sax Supreme is bretty good. nice smooth soprano sax samples. Cinewinds are sounding great too now that I have them working with kontakt 5
>tfw convinced my self that I'm inventing genres and changing the face of music
in the sytrus filter should I use the lime lowpass or vanilla lowpass? what's the difference?
>>54354489
use what sounds good to your ears m8
>>54339168
I really like that intro. Got no advice though, sorry.
>>54340280
Sounds interesting.
Would be interesting to chop up, resample and add some harsh machine-like sounds to it.
https://clyp.it/a3a2i5tt
Trying to figure out how to fill the middle part.
Any idea what kind of percussion or beat would fit a song like this?
This might be wrong place to post this but I'm at a loss with this shit
I'm trying to edit sound files for something, and I'm trying to add radio static in the background of these audio files.
However I've got over 800 files to do so doing them one by one isn't really much of a choice, so batch editing is pretty much a necessity.
The shit I'm trying to do is a mod for Insurgency, and I need to add radio variants of audio lines, so I need to edit all this shit by adding static in the background.\
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G99ffN15fbs
It's this sort of shit that I need, the typical background static
Could anyone help me with this?
https://clyp.it/zocwvgyj
Quick production tips for someone starting out using Logic Pro X?
Pic somewhat related. Going to see them in may.
Guys, where can I buy all the bass traps and other shit to treat my room in UK? I can't find shit, absolutely nothing.
>>54356700
Amazon? It's not cheap and not best to do it on your own.
>>54349399
it's time to ditch the soundcloud rule, /prod/ is slowing down enough without condescension toward newcomers
As a newcomer, all these resources are really helpful. Thanks a bunch.
Speaking as a total amateur with only a computer, a sound card, a microphone, a couple of vsts and a guitar, is it okay to feel totally self conscious about the ways you produce? I always worry about being considered a basic bitch in that regard even if I manage to make something sound decent.
>>54357212
the ends justify the means in music, especially if you're just starting out
>>54357212
All you really need to start is a DAW. Everything else might improve your workflow and get you better results, but to produce tracks, even a phone will do.
>>54357212
If you get good results you'll get mad respect for being a basic bitch. If you're decked out with sweet gear, people will shit on your results unless they're godly.
Besides, too much gear can be overwhelming. You can learn so much just experimenting with a minimal amount of gear.
>>54357231
>>54357315
>>54357466
Thanks a bunch guys.
I've always been relatively insecure about doing this stuff but it's good to know I'm at least not entering with a bad mindset.
>>54357115
I can't see anything good on Amazon, anon. Sucks...
Hip hop producers out there, how'd you incorperate electronic elements into your samples? Should i just learn basic house and synth?
>>54357912
>should I learn something that will help me in every aspect of music production?
Hip hop producers are the lowest of the low.
>>54357912
They just use presets, man. There are whole threads in forums about people finding the exact sounds for entire tracks on VSTs,
That said, if you learn basic sound design (subtractive synthesis), you can recreate those without effort instead of just browsing presets.
>>54357979
no, idiots are. and you sound like you might be one.
>>54357208
i'd rather have no /prod/ than another soundcloud thread
>>54357979
Yeah
>>54358725
Agreed
>>54357208
Go away soundcloud kid
>>54358725
agreed. it is one of the things that really distinguishes it from the circlejerk like-leaching nature of sc threads.
how's the mix on my synth here? man reelbus is great but i can't figure out how to set up the tape speed.
https://clyp.it/p5cluqre
>>54357208
die in a fire sc shitter
>>54358725
preach, brother
>>54358905
>https://clyp.it/p5cluqre
I like how it sounds
lower speed -> less high end and things like wow+flutter will be more noticeable
30 IPS gets you a pro/semi-pro sound
15 gets you a reasonable tradeoff between fidelity and old school
7.5 you start losing things like hihats
>>54358905
Pretty good, what synth are you using?
>>54359024
u-he diva.
>>54358725
>>54358875
>>54358942
but I'M the shitposter, right? listen to yourselves lol
>>54359145
It's obvious you don't want to be a part of the community, and this is why we don't take you seriously.
I'm an admin on a production community with almost 8000 members on Facebook and ever since we applied similar principles used here (no Soundclouds allowed on the main group, clyps for technical problems people had and a special separate group for promotion/feedback) the overall post quality improved a lot.
>>54359240
>It's obvious you don't want to be a part of the community, and this is why we don't take you seriously.
i am a part of the community, you all just think that these are my only posts for some reason. do you think i just lurk every /prod/ waiting for someone to mention soundcloud?
>>54359335
>do you think i just lurk every /prod/ waiting for someone to mention soundcloud?
Considering the past two months, yeah, I actually think that.
>>54359335
You are only distinguishable by your shitposting though. Maybe if you spent your time helping people, others would rememer that instead. If you're so concerned about shitposting, you should probably stop doing it.
>>54359389
maybe you need a reminder
>>54357208
reasonable suggestion in light of /prod/ slowing down to the point where the last 3 threads have died prematurely (not shitposting)
>>54358725
response number one: "i'd rather have no /prod/ than have ur way because ur the memevillain of /prod/"
>>54358875
response two: agreeing with an unrelated shitposter (>>54357979) and saying "go away"
>>54358942
response 3: "am i edgy enough yet?"
i guess i'll stop getting shitpost replies after this... y'know, because you all just care so much. and i do answer people's questions but since you're still not getting the point: I LOOK LIKE ANY OTHER ANON WHEN IM NOT TALKING ABOUT SOUNDCLOUD
>>54359335
>i am a part of the community, you all just think that these are my only posts for some reason
if that doesn't give you a hint of how these are the posts we don't agree with or want here I don't know what will
>>54359559
>I LOOK LIKE ANY OTHER ANON WHEN IM NOT TALKING ABOUT SOUNDCLOUD
And we don't reject you when you're not. Just when you are.
That's the whole point.
>>54359567
i'm aware that the posts aren't wanted, i'm still gonna look for a reason that isn't "it'll turn into a sc thread 2.0 because i said so and there are no other outcomes"
post tracks
ignore the retard
same as always, guys
>>54359145
here you guise
>>54359559
we're not having this discussion again
at this point everybody here should be well aware why we don't support unsolicited SC posting
maybe people are too busy with school/work or working on fat new tracks, slow threads aren't the end of the world, people are hanging around on the new IRC which is getting bigger, we're not far off and some cool things are happening behind the scenes.. if a new thread needs to be made we'll make one, we take care of our own
it's a fair tradeoff to avoid another meaningless self-promotion circlejerk, we are adamant about this because there are a million places out there already if you want to advertise your fucking SC. not if you want to discuss production and share clips without having followers & postcount etc being a factor
if anything these threads have improved steadily, less shitposters (except for you), stupid figaro printercore memes don't live long and people don't seem to ignore clyp links nearly as much
>>54360073
>ITT: everybody feels like this except for one guy
>>54360073
and then there's this post,the one that acts like it's offering me a fair rebuttal but it's really just the "soundcloud thread 2.0" boogeyman once more. it's not like this is a community of amateur producers or anything, surely everybody's soundcloud is full of pro-quality stuff that couldn't be improved in any way. nobody would ever post a soundcloud except to promote their perfect tracks that they are totally satisfied with.
>there are a million places out there already if you want to advertise your fucking SC
this is a point for my argument, not against it. there ARE a bunch of LIEK4LIEK#FOLLOWBACK places to promote yourself, so why would you come here for self-promotion instead of just to discuss technical things with other producers? just have a rule along the lines of "don't post your sc/bandcamp/etc for promotional purposes, ask for specific feedback" and you can even keep your snippy attitude to people that just post their soundcloud
>>54360423
Settle down kid, nobody likes/agrees with you. So just stop whining.
>>54360176
>>54360459
>>54360480
>shitposting is what other people do, my posts are TOTALLY adding to this conversation
>>54360517
I don't think you have any clue what shitposting is.
>>54360573
>man it's CRAZY how bad other people's shit smells! not mine though, weird huh?
>>54360517
Adding to what conversation? It's just people trying to move on from some idiot begging the question. Nobody wants to have this dumb debate but you. So, idk, maybe go find a soundcloud thread and ask somebody there to debate you.
stop replying to the imbecile
>>54360612
It's amazing how close you come to figuring things out, but then you have to prove some nonexistent point.
>>54328370
Just bought a quadraverb on eBay. I'm a big fan of that early 90's warp records sound(like SAW)and I was wondering if I would be able to achieve that spacey sound with that verb.
>>54360620
>why does he keep posting? maybe my shitposting will make him stop!
>>54360636
they don't know how, they're the type that desperately need the last word
>>54360683
>>why does he keep posting? maybe my shitposting will make him stop!
>they don't know how, they're the type that desperately need the last word.
>>54360676
NICE going mate
yes you will kick ass with that piece
>>54360726
yup, those sure are the sentences i just typed. am i wrong? do they know how to stop replying to me? do they not think replying with shitposts to everything i say will make me leave for some reason?
>>54360768
>yup, those sure are the sentences i just typed. am i wrong? do they know how to stop replying to me? do they not think replying with shitposts to everything i say will make me leave for some reason?
>>54360781
threadly reminder that these are the people who support the soundcloud rule lol
sounds like you all need a healthy dose of nu-pepe.
>>54360854
>threadly reminder that these are the people who support the soundcloud rule lol
I'm making a mix tape and I want it to sound more gritty and raw. How should I go about this? recording methods? I'm using ableton
>>54353611
>kontakt library recs from poly orchfag
oh god yes, thanks dude
>>54360744
Awesome! Can't wait! Now all I have to do is get a cassette recorder and I can truely relive the 90's!
>>54346368
I don't want to be mean but the percussion really sounds like if it was made by someone who doesn't really understand how jazz percussion works, it's annoying and doesn
't suit the rest of the music very well
>>54347174
yes but I find it so precious that I'd never tell anyone
>>54347174
originally started music with school band and grandpas guitars, then started trying to breakcore. at first, i'd try to do breaks then wank guitar/bass over the breaks like i was a jam band.
eventually, started recording bits of scales into slicex, then I'd chop them up in the piano roll. far more versatile, and I was able to get some dank arrangements that would've taken hella overdubbing and countless takes if I recorded by hand
>>54347174
Using tuned taikos instead of bass.
unfinished/unmixed but put some work into this synth jam. honest feedback plox
https://clyp.it/wv3r0ekz
>>54362088
i like your flow. the bass and pad go well with each other. percussion is well spaced, but the EQ is a bit off, like the mid is too much on all the elements, and there isn't enough sparkle going on in at least one of the tracks to fill up the open space. it's pretty good though.
https://clyp.it/kjtwrsny
>>54362088
the high end in the whole track is throttled and muffled. you need to get some crisp sounds in there. song is alright but the mix needs work
Today I want to be Burial.
https://clyp.it/jbrk3jm0
>>54362088
It's cool but that change at 0:40 was uncomfortable. Really love the synths in the last part.
>>54362267
What genre is this gonna be? I honestly wanna know, it sounds cool.
>>54362088
it's not really bad but it's not very good too. idk, i can't really give you any "real" feedback, but I didn't find the change at 0:40 uncomfortable.
>>54363067
genre? i'm not sure i was just messing with panning. maybe /prod/-wave? not enough cowbell though.
>>54362088
hahaha. you need to take your audiophile music elsewhere because these people obviously have never heard tape recordings before and wouldnt know warmth if it bit them in the ass. not everything has to be harsh digital bullshit. people cough up serious dough for that "throttled and muffled" sound. sounds unbelievable. great depth and roundness to everything.
>>54363714
>he thinks that mud=warmth
i use tape all the time and i can tell you that there is such a thing as not having enough highs for an analog mix. there's legit criticism in that. you never want to round so much that you lose half your tracks. especially if you ever want to have a dozen or so with reverb. think of all the space involved.
>>54363714
Jesus Christ, you seem like an unpleasant person.
>>54360916
I'm doing the same thing. Pls need some tips too
Which electronic genre requires the greatest skill and knowledge to produce?
>>54365094
IDM B^)
>>54365094
https://instaud.io/5Vh
is this cool and avant teen enough so far for my edgy /prod/sters
>>54365094
in all sincerity, I'd say >>54365266 is at least a strong contender. it often draws upon the staples & "peaks" of other electronic genres. done poorly, it's just a jack-of-some trades results, but the good stuff is fucking good.
>>54365094
definitely braindance
>>54365094
Unique and fresh sounding synth sounds for traditionally non-electronic music.
Not the answer you wanted but let me explain. You can't generally speak about genres since there are simple songs that are amazing and highly complex songs that will bore you to death.
But making sounds for something like a movie score that is NOT a fucking pad in a lowpass-filter can be challenging.
>>54365094
Neurofunk.
>>54365370
I think pic related would be a good example of what you mean. One of my all-time favorites.
>>54365292
>https://instaud.io/5Vh
The thing that starts happening with the sample at 0.04 sounds amateurish and bad. If you took the tempo of the last part and made it sound more three-dimensional and polished it'd be a good track.
>>54365094
It doesn't work that way. When it comes to production you can make anything a simple or as complex as you want/can. Pretty much any genre features producers who are beyond talented. I find that downtempo/IDM tend to have a good chunk of talent, but that's because the genres aren't really defined by the elements that make it up, but rather the vibe of the song, so it leaves much more room of sonic exploration than say dubstep for example, where the flavor of sounds, drum patterns, and the tempo are already predetermined.
>>54362267
>>54362307
>>54363067
thanks for the honest feedback, you are 100% correct, I'll do what I can
>>54363714
you seem like a nice abrasive cunt and all but crispy saturated highs is why i even got a tape deck in the first place
>>54354638
I came to that conclusion also
Who do you guys think are the best three or five rock producers? I'm someone who doesn't really know much about the actual process of producing a record, but I have a few producers that I feel strongly about, and I was wondering what people would say who actually do have the technical knowledge.
If I were making a rock album, I'd want Todd Rundgren, Jeff Lynne, Brian Eno, or David Bowie.
>>54366223
I'd want quincy jones
>>54333241
Sidechains via Comp/Limiter and hard knees
>>54366223
Talent of musicians > Recording Engineer > Audio Engineers > Mastering Engineer > Producers > Managers
This is the bottleneck list of every album. Read as: Talent of musicians is more important than recording engineer etc.
It's nice to have amazing people oversee a project but what matters most is the musician.
>>54366223
Garth Richardson
James Guthrie
Russ Terrana
Steve Albini
George Clinton
>>54366441
It's pretty common that producer and engineer are one in the same, isn't it though?
>>54366508
it's funny cuz that's the synth i'm using. and yeah i need to work on the gain manipulation. it's really tough stuff.
https://clyp.it/5daolqop
>>54366553
That depends highly on the project and its budget.
Sometimes the lead singer is also the producer. I meant audio engineer as in the guy who mixes and edits the whole song.
Been working on this for a few hours now, what do you guys think? I like the way the current "ending" is going, just wondering what /prod/ thinks
https://clyp.it/dvex1zu2
>>54366441
No. Definitely not. There are SO many songs out there with little to no musicianship that is compensated by extremely precise and meticulous engineering.
>>54366666
check them
>>54366666
satan confirms
>>54366553
It depends on the context. With a lot of big name pop productions, the producer plays an integral role in the process of choosing sounds/layers, the arrangement, the recording process, but the mix is done by a separate person. Also mastering engineers are undercredited.
>>54366693
Yeah, I meant good music. Sorry.
>>54366705
>>54366714
Oh wow, first time getting quints.
>>54366794
But nobody listens to good music that doesn't sound good. That was my point. You can sacrifice musicianship for good engineering and people will still eat that shit up because it sounds pristine. I agree that a masterpiece is created through good musicianship and good engineering, but the performance isn't worth shit if it's not mixed well.
Microbrute is really great for bass sounds
https://soundcloud.com/citizen_kane/citizen-kane-multi-bump
>>54366897
sounds like shite
>>54361532
Interesting
