The ride's over guys!
ABANDON SHIP
>>26919793
>Opening is considered the weakest by horsefuckers, Making Sombra look exciting.
The ship was doomed as soon as it hit the iceburg anon, it's now listing.
>>26919793
>easter weekend
>barely any announcement or promotion
Just DFC being shit.
>>26919793
====Side-by-Side-by-Side Comparison (Seasons 4, 5, and 6)===
S6E01 & S6E02 - 383,000 & 373,000 Viewers {-10,000}
S5E01 & S5E02 - 510,000 & 574,000 Viewers {64,000}
S401 & S4E02 - 733,000 & 709,000 Viewers {-24,000}
===Rank Standings (as of March 26, 2016)===
1) The Crystalling (Episodes #118 and 119)
with 756,000 viewers; Part 1 with 383,000
viewers and Part 2 with 373,000 viewers
>>26919793
how are general ratings on other shows doing? I'm curious if this is a decline in popularity or a decline in people using cable television in general. I know I don't even receive Discovery Family because I'm a cheap bastard and don't want to pay an extra thirty dollars for the extended channel package to get a single channel I'll watch once a week.
>>26919811
Makes you wonder how they even manage to keep the channel alive.
>>26919813
You can't just add up the viewers for both parts. It's very likely that most viewers stayed around for both parts.
>what is itunes
>>26919869
>2016
>Still giving your money to Apple
>>26919878
You're giving money to some big company one way or another unless you live as a hermit in some cave.
It might just be me, but there's not as much fanart now as there was back in 2012-2013.
At the source Littlest Pet Shop aired its 15th episode and netted 136k viewers, so pony is still running stronger.
>>26919936
That's the last season, too. LPS got canned because toys never sold well.
>>26919942
Didn't they lose Mccarthy?
>>26919950
She's on in some form. Considering that she has to worry about LPS and Strawberry Shortcake too, it might be less than normal. But since LPS is ending and Strawberry Shortcake is barely a thing, her role is basically just working with MLP.
>>26919793
At this point, MLP is literally the only reason DF is not dead yet.
It's only doing shit because it's on a shit channel. Put it on Cartoon Network or one of the Disney channels and watch its ratings go up the roof.
>>26919793
how are Discovery family's other shows doing?
>>26919995
It's far too late for that, anon. FiM is already on its last legs.
>>26919793
Looks like standard Discovery Family ratings. I don't see the problem.
>>26919999
Not as well as those quads my good sir
>>26919999
Fucking shit. DF is only alive because the Hasbro shows keep it alive, pretty much what this anon says.>>26919982
It's no mystery why DF won't let MLP go.
>>26920075
i'd like some hard numbers actually.
>>26919950
>>26919959
She need to be fired!
>>26919950
i thought she was writing the movie
>>26919906
Well I live in my parent's basement
>>26919916
relevant
>>26919793
Why does Hasbro put up with DF's bullshit?
>>26920208
Because they don't see a problem. Hasbro doesn't give a shit about viewer count. As long as it sells toys its fine with them.
0.11
holy fuck. S4 used to get what? around 0.70?
Still... what matters how how well the toys sell... right?
>>26920089
http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2015/03/31/discovery-family-channels-2015-16-line-up-features-200-hours-of-new-programming-2/
If the four shows from Hasbro, MLP, LPS, Transformers, and SS all have 26 episodes, at a half hour, that's a quarter of their "new" programming right there. Even though viewership across the board is going down because people are canceling cable, the network is still #1 in some demographics, especially amongst children ages 8-11 and neckbeards 18-49.
>>26920255
Did you not read the post above yours?
The success of the show is pretty much tied to toy sales
>>26920312
and considering the number of ways people can view the show, the ratings are a meaningless variable
>>26920289
No I didn't.
>>26920179
This, to much people watched the show because "was cool", but for other side, who give a fuck?, if you enjoy the show, who care? If is popular or not, I not care that, I enjoy the show, and that is the matter
>>26919793
Ratings mean shit; I always dvr the episodes anyway.
if the show had for real died for everytime I'd seen a thread talking about how "the ride is ending" the show would be a festering corpse
>>26920450
so we're like /x/ now?
>>26920486
not really.
just kind of making note of the fact that the doomsayers always go on about the show finally dying, and they's been at it since season 3 but the show is still going. the fandom is still thriving and there's no evidence of cancellation for at least another year. So honestly there's zero point in even thinking the shows gonna die when it's still giving out money
>>26920530
The shows been dead since episode three but your so deep in denile you can't see it.but seriously Hasbro needs to cut its loses and move its shows to another network
>>26920614
I'd dare say try and cut a deal with Cartoon Network but I don't know how well CN plays with production companies not owned by itself.
Who even has a TV these days.
>>26920695
I do for console games and the free channel that airs bad sci-fi shows along with Twilight Zone and Outer Limits 24/7.
>>26920234
But if nobody watches the show the toys won't sell
Aren't more people watching it online, like on a streaming service or youtube?
I'm sure a lot of people weren't around for the premier, so they had to watch it some other time
>>26920763
yeah.
this is why ratings are no longer as reliable as they used to be
>>26920695
people who are stuck with satellite internet.
>>26920763
My question is does recording it on dvr count as part of their ratings? I mean, because I'm not necessarily watching it as it occurs, but my TV is...
>>26920733
But the sell of the toys hasn't dipped and the show has retained its critical audience member. Little girls who will pester their parents into buying their toys. The only time it plummeted significantly was the S4 to S5 hiatus when they released nothing for over a year.
>>26920847
It counts towards general ratings, but not day-of ratings. Your DVR tends to report the event of watching the episode only once it's watched. Depending on the reporting company, they may wait a few days and factor in recorded watching, but I think they mostly care about people willing to catch it live.
>>26919813
dude, more than half of everyone who watches the fucking show watches it online
>>26919793
is it really fair to compare pony to news?
also how well does teen titans go have?
that show is fucking worthless on all accounts.
>>26920848
Yeah but Hasbro does care about those girls watching it
>>26919793
>Jim Miller said, "Rating don't really effect FIM mush so don't go nuts thinking the show is sinking.
Well, Big Jim Miller lied because he's a dork!
The show will be close to cancellation after the first half of S6.
>>26919793
S5 really did bad to the show
>>26921043
>>26919793
>i am here because it's popular
I got that right, you are literally admitting to being a fan of the fandom ?
>>26920657
Poorly if the head doesn't like it. Such as when Toonami was cancelled, even though it was still something of a ratings magnet, or Adult Swim choosing to screw over their animoo block for Tim and Eric try to be Kids in the Hall and fail harder than Mr. Show. All because the exec in charge of CN and then one in charge of AS hated the fact that their big draw was anime.
And that's not even getting into things like Moral Orel and some of the supposed shenanigans there.
>>26919811
Fucking this. It's a shit channel that apparently doesn't have a clue how to operate.
>>26921043
Nigga the Nielsons are almost dead thanks to streaming sites like Netflix, and many sites having shit on their own site.
It's been going that way for the last few years as those sites (and people stripping the DRM from shit like Apple) have become more ubiquitous.
I mean fuck anon, how many of you faggots actually watched the shit on TV and not in a stream or video upload site after somebody ripped the DRM from their Applemazon Play 1080p purchase?
>>26921317
I don't get Discovery Family because I don't get Dish!
>>26921330
That's basically the point, and I don't mean just the Crystaling either, if I remember right pretty much all shows have had their ratings tanking for the last couple years, both from streaming video sites and from DVD/Blu-ray season collections.
Basically TV is pretty much dead except for sports.
>>26921432
I've rather watch NASCAR practice on FS1 than this show.
>>26919811
What the fuck are you even talking about?!
Seriously I can finally say to another person.
DID YOU EVEN WATCH THE SHOW!
And I don't mean two weeks latter either when you get around to it off of Youtube or Daily motion. They were pumping this "Countdown to the Crystalling" A whole month in advance with ads, flyers and everything else they could on Discovery Family at every chance they could. Even after their main block lineup of MLP and Littlest Pet Shop.
/MLP/ was going crazy because it was announced way unexpectedly and sooner than anticipated and we all got hyped as shit due to it. WHERE THE FUCK WERE YOU?!
>>26921661
Is this a joke?
>>26921661
>/MLP/
>>26921736
Which part? That you missed the obvious ads or you don't care to watch the channel you bash for
>Never advertising the show.
>>26919793
>Rename channel from Hub to Discovery Family.
>Terrible advertising for best shows.
>Worst time airing new episodes (holidays, summer).
>Viewership is low.
Well gee, Discovery Family, I wonder why people stopped watching ya!
>>26919793
I really wish it would just end already, then we can shrink down to "dedicated fan" level.
>>26921803
Summer isn't the worst time, but the holidays I do agree.
They ever show the new episodes on Saturday anyhow so it really doesn't matter what season they air new episodes.
If it really mattered, we would of never had Saturday morning cartoons in the 90's. Kids are home from school. Why does it matter?
>>26921848
Do people forget that FiM didn't start on Saturdays?
>>26922540
It was Fridays, if I remember right. There were also huge delays between premieres and their part 2. First time MLP:FiM aired, it was two weeks before the second half. Return of Harmony had a week between parts. We're spoiled with our two parts in one day specials.
>>26920179
I think you mean all the good artists left for FNAF, Undertale, Zootopia, etc.
This whole "fad" argument is pretty retarded because being a smaller group isn't as good as one would think.
Sure, we have less cancer now but we also have less good content along with that. As well as now with what cancer remains feels like a lot more cancer than it really is, as a certain sticky would like to remind you.
>>26920366
>using a HDD reaction image
>he was also only riding the MLP popularity train
oh the irony
>>26921279
Ya cn and as are a sinking ship as well they chould try hub again it was surviveing there pretty well cn and as will die because they have NO diversity the only shows they have now look at it cn has: adventure time regular show uncle grandpa and gumball . As has: robot chicken... i think thats it. So if thay move to cn there death dive will be quicker than the Titanic hit by a nuke the BEST chance thay got is hub
>>26922789
In my opinion
>>26922723
>all the good artists left
literally what?
The only art that has suffered noticeably is music, and that still has a ton of good shit in it.
The main problem with the fad argument is that it ignores the people who leave for any other reason. It kind of assumes that there is no reason for people to be leaving if they weren't here for the bandwagon, which is objectively incorrect.
>>26922540
>>26922648
Not only but our Saturday premiers. I mean, at least they are thinking.
>>26921786
Have you ever seen an advert for ponies outside of Discovery Kids?
Adverts other than toys?
>>26922723
If we can get less meme art and shitty dubstep remix 847 then I don't see the problem.
>>26922886
>liking MLP fan music
No wonder you think there are still good artists around, eugh.
>>26923408
Sometimes I wonder just how much nostalgiafags actually remember about the early days. Like Show Stoppers being declared worst episode of S1 right after it aired.
Ratings don't mean shit, the toy's are selling better than ever and that's all Hasbro cares about.
>>26922886
But the people who leave for other reasons is as negligable as the amount of peaceful muslims. Believe ot or not, /mlp/ is the minority and only the biggest of aspies left over Twilycorn.
K
So, it's confirmed that this is the last season?
I thought it was funded up through season 9 or something?
>>26920657
CN would burn this shit off at like 6 AM on a weekday and you know it.
Disney XD would probably be a little more respectful. God knows they're probably hurting for another breakout hit now that Gravity Falls is done.
>>26923540
Haven't heard anything about season 9, but at the very least, we have a movie coming in 2017. As in, an actual wide-release see-it-in-theatres movie.
After that? My guess is, it'll get the Ben 10 treatment and live on as Guardians of Harmony.
>>26923494I wish they would've wrote more unicorn twi episodes in Season 3 before they pulled the princess thing. I never hated the idea, I just thought it felt a little too early.
>>26923633
They're not hurting bad enough to think that cancelling WOY is on the table.
>>26923494
Not just Twilicorn, brah. A lot of people left because their interest just waned. I think it has to do with the relationship mlp fandom has with the rest of the internet. For example a youtube channel could talk about Steven Universe, Adventure Time, and Over the Garden wall on the same channel, but if you do pony videos, you're pretty much stuck just doing pony videos, and likewise, if you do non pony videos, doing a pony video will cause your audience to lose their shit, and not in a good way. I remember seeing one specific case where a comic book youtuber did an episode on the mlp comics and his entire audience turned on him, I think he ended up taking a break from video making afterward. It pretty much makes most content creators to feel like they have to focus all their creative energy on just one thing, which causes burnout. If you ask most people who've been here from the beginning, I'll bet most of them have other interests equal to or greater than pony.
>>26924597
Sadness, really. We do have a controversial fandom.
>>26919793
>implying even 10% of adult fans watch the actual cable airing to contribute to the view count
>implying any of us in the thread now watched it on anything but a stream or an upload
>>26925750
This.
I couldn't watch it on DFC even if I want to cause I'm a eurofag.
>>26919813
Gib first three seasons as well, please.
>>26923540
5 more years was confirmed in 2014.
Expect another 5 to be confirmed in ~2018.
>Implying the quality will matter in that decision.
>>26923449
How many advertisements for shows have you ever seen OFF the shows' network? Have you ever seen a Survivor ad on NBC? Networks advertise their own shows, not other networks' shows. If you didn't see pony ads on fucking Cartoon Network and MSNBC, that's because that's how TV works.
>>26925888
Citation needed.
>>26926019
Here's your citation: lurk moar.
>>26924597
Your example is actually a different problem due to the anti-pony autism that's still going on. He sounds like he was already known to be flexible, but only that one video triggered his audience.
But your point still stands. It's like the backlash when Stephen King started writing non-thriller books.
>>26923449
Oddly, I saw one Tuesday Night on YouTube. I kek'd at how late that was.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/1vuN75M.png "latest[1].png")
>>26919878
>Giving your money to Apple
>>26926019
Look up something like "5 more years" on Desutorage.
Assuming they haven't died as well...
>>26920848
This is true.
Viewership is down by 50% from the peak.
Toy sales, however, have only slumped very little.
The people who actually fund the show - the people who buy toys - are not the same people who stopped watching the show.
>>26923449
>>26925991
Really outside their own network, you will not see companies advertising the competitors products or shows. But that is show biz.
Outside Television Broadcasting. I have seem ads in unusual places. Stores, Magazines and so fourth. But those are ad spaces usually bought by who ever wants it.
>>26923494
>Only the biggest of aspies left over Twilycorn.
>People who left are the aspies, not us people who continue watching and discussing a little girl's show.
>>26920330
This. Companies are often behind the times and they often want to stay there. Traditional television and even traditional cable are falling behind and that includes their ratings systems. They don't know how many are watching.
>>26926276
Aside from some companies (oddly DF is one) doing them on places like YouTube, though given that I saw an ad for the season opener last night I wonder if Hasbro moved it up without telling the guys doing the promotional stuff.
>>26919793
Bravo Haber, bravo Hasbro
>>26920179
there are many problems with this hypothesis, the biggest being that anyone who actually cared about the show left jumped ship with Twilicorn
The only people left are neo-/mlp/ (aka ponychan)
and the hordes of mindless people who began watching the show after it's golden age
It's true they may be very dedicated, but this is a misdirected affinity that ultimately contributes to the further demise of the once great show
>>26927540
Hi neo-/mlp/
>>26927540
You talk like you're not one of them, yet you are posting here. I assume you are cutting all ties will /mlp/ and MLP in general after this right?
>>26919813
I think more than 40% of the actual people who watch The hub are watching it on livestreams since hasbro only shows it in fucking burgerland.
>>26919793
I wish mods would ban "The ride is over" threads, /vp/ has years dying and they don't bitch about it so much
>>26928141
at least they still ban the "I don't get the appeal" threads
those are just as bad
>>26928098
>the hub
>>26929177It could happenonly on the hub
>>26919793
>Shit Season Premiere
>Wonder why they get shit ratings
That's what happens
season 6 is the last season enjoy.
I'd like to blame the Easter holiday. I'd like to blame Discovery Family for it's terrible job advertising. I'd like to blame myself for having the most basic of cable packages and not getting DFC.
But surely we older fans of the show don't make up a significant chunk of those viewer numbers. Is this a case of little girls not liking Pony anymore?
>>26928064
>pic
Why do those faggots always feel the need to bring it to everyone's attention? They're like people who tell everyone they've been considering suicide for a quick fix to reassure themselves people still care about them.
>>26919793
OP confirmed for doomfag.
The other shit's election or news related in election fever season.
Of course that's going to get more.
Besides, what about the hundreds of thousands who streamed it illegally? So show isn't dying.
Jim probably had streamers in mind when he mentioned this, because Hasbro are aware of it and are cool with it.
Have they ever tried to shut any streams down?
>>26929284
>>26919808
>implying that was better than The Crystal Empire
Fuck they REUSED the premise of that episode for this but gave it a more interesting backup story to go with it (plus did away with the pretense that Sombra was anything more than a character-less consequence of failure by replacing him with a non-sentient ice storm).
The Crystal Empire is still the shittiest opener.
>>26930191
did you like this episode?
also
>they're redoing everything shit properly
>>26930303
I watched it without rancor. I think Starlight and Sunburst putting their past behind them was better than the crisis story, I suppose, but that doesn't make it bad.
>>26929579
Yes, as a matter of fact, the most popular one, CinemaQuestria, which I went to due to no cable providers, was doing it since the start of S5, and was stopped near "Do Princesses dream of Magical Sheep?"
C&D straight from the b0ss
Hasbro really should move on from Discovery family and people leave becasue it's been over 5 fucking years enough time for lose interest on something it's understandable
>>26929579
Big Jim Miller is afraid, because he knows the show will go downhill and be cancelled and he'll lose his job.
>>26930346
sauce? more details? from the b0ss? how did you know it was from the b0ssand I don't mean papa franku
>>26930703
How do you know it's not my suggestion?
>>26930761
You know, it's odd. I wouldn't fuck the Braixen because I think she's too big, but I'd be ALL over that Floatzel, even though she's much, much bigger than the Braixen.
>Big Jim says
Yeah lets believe the animation director who isn't in the business end of the show at all whose job depends on the show continuing.
>>26930761
I agree
>>26930990
now, this got me thinking, what possible counter point could there be to this? what would convince you that this isn't the reason he says it? what other reasons could there be?
>>26923475
That isn't anything new... Every episode from I remember I keep seeing the shit posters literally posting "this episode is shit, everything is shit, shit/10"
If every episode is worse episode, why are you even here?
>Early days...
yeah..
>>26927019
Well, damn you have another point and honestly, in my opinion I wouldn't doubt it. Especially since most of the staff "apparently" didn't expect the earlier date. (though staff so who knows)
There is a term: Silo
Think of a grain silo not the missile silo. All the grain is stacked on top of each other.
>silo: Silo mentality descries a scenario in which each department has a different, closed view of its role within the over all scheme and information does not get shared.
"Example: Sales and marketing has a 2 for 1 sale.
Finance is not briefed and processes only 1 order.
Operations is not briefed and sends customers only one item instead of two.
Customer Service is not briefed and is unprepared for the influx of angry shoppers."
So yeah Could be the same case
Does anyone know who is writing the Newbie Dash episode? In the tread earlier they were saying that it's Neal Dusedau, but no one had any sources.
>>26929284
