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I miss Old Sunset Shimmer.
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I miss the old Sunset Shimmer.

She was fun, and ambitious, she didn't let anything stand in her way.

She wanted that crown and by god did she fucking take it. She was edgy, and dominant and cool.

She was everything that was great in a villain, until they hackneyed her up at the end.

Then she got her "redemption" and then pretty much became Fluttershy 2.0 and since then acts almost NOTHING LIKE HER OLD SELF.

I miss the ol Shimmy, the one who bullies kids and takes their fucking lunch money, the one who won the crown by bullying the fuck out of an entire school. Kids hid in their fucking locker when she walked by.

What a badass, now thats a Sunset Shimmer I would fuck.

In honor of the Old Sunset, lets have a Old Sunset Shimmer thread.

None of that new design Rainbow Cocks Or Scilight Gaymes bullshit.

Just good ol Edgy evil Sunset.

I would give my left nut to see some new green of the old Sunset.
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>>25837587
>There she comes walking down the halls, the kids scattering, most just staring in awe with Snip and Snails at her side.
>Others drop their books and jump into their lockers like a bomb just went off in the hall and they're jumping into a nearby trench for safety.
>She walks up to you.
>"Wheres my money dweeb?"
"Uh, excuse me?"
>"You heard me, you got lunch money, and I want it.
>Shes rubbing her thumb across her nails.
"You're not getting-"
>She slams her hands against your locker caging you between her and the locker.
>"Don't make this difficult."
>"That's right, you'd better do what she says or else!"
>"Quiet! Let ME do the talking! Now give me the money and there won't be problems."
>You steel yourself.
"Heh, you can't scare me, you got nothing on me, and besides, you're a girl, what can you do to intimidate someone like me, who's taller than you?"
>She folds her arms smiling.
>"Oh, you're going to regret that, Snips, Snails, get ready to send it."
"Heh, wait what? Send what?"
>"I guess it's no use trying to intimidate someone as 'big' as you."
>She pulls out her phone thumbing through.
>Something about it doesn't seem right.
"W-what are you-"
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>>25838122
>You walk over looking at their phones.
>Its you jacking off to a picture of Fluttershy in the bathroom stall.
>"Such a candid shot of that time Fluttershy wasn't wearing panties, I wonder what your parents, and what the school would think of such a pervert."
"B-but how-"
>"Snips and snails followed you around afterward, we've even got it in video format."
>"Eugh, it's totally gross."
>"Yeah disgusting!"
>"But like you said, I won't be able to intimidate you. You're beyond negotiation at this point."
>She sighs.
>"I guess the only thing to do would be to send this off to everyone we know."
"N-no wait-"
>"Are you willing to be a little more compliant?"
>You look down.
"I.."
>"Oh whats that? I didn't hear you."
"Y-yes.."
>"Could you speak up a little louder?"
"Yes."
>"I want to hear you say, 'yes Miss Shimmer'."
"Yes, Miss Shimmer."
>"Good boy, now give me your money nerd!"
>You pull out your wallet.
>You go to try and hand her a 5 from your wallet but she goes all Jane Jetson on your ass and takes the whole thing stealing the 50 dollars you'd been saving.
>She thumbs through the money.
"H-hey thats-"
>"Proper collateral, you wouldn't want this sort of sensitive information getting out, would you?"
"No.."
>She takes the other five from your hand and hands you back your empty wallet.
>"Be seeing you, loser."
>She says as she strolls away.
>You look down at your empty wallet.
>God dammit..
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>>25838134
>You go to class.
>You sit down in the back.
>Stupid Sunset Shimmer.
>Stealing all your money like that..
>Now you won't have any money for lunch!
>And you'd been saving that money for a few weeks too!
>What a bitch..
>Forcing you into compliance like that..
>You know what, you know exactly what you'll do, you'll go to the Principal and..
>And, totally get found out that you were jerking off to Fluttershy.
>You could try getting their phones, but, they probably have it on backup disks and USB drives..
>You're boned..
>You're so totally boned and it's only the first day of school..


>You're sitting alone in the lunchroom.
>Sunset Shimmer surrounded by Snips, Snails, Cherry Berry, Flash Sentry..
>You have nothing to eat of course because Sunset stole all of your money.
>All you can do is watch as Sunset enjoys the spoils of your defeat..
>What a bitch..
>Look at her all smug over there..
>Enjoying herself like that..
>Shes probably laughing AT you right now..
>You didn't know it was possible to feel this pathetic..
>You get up..
>You walk by them toward the exit.
>Suddenly you feel yourself trip and fall to the ground.
>"Hey, you should watch where you're going loser!"
>"He's all tripped up!"
>The entire table is laughing at you.
>You get up shambling away..
>This is the worst..
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>>25837587
>I miss the old Sunset Shimmer.
You mean the even shittier one?

sunsetfags not even once
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>>25838139
The next day..
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>Sunset Shimmer walking down the hall with Snips and Snails.
>You turn to avoid eye contact.
>But the movement stops, as you can practically feel her standing behind you.
>"Turn around loser."
>You grimace turning to her.
>"You must be new here thinking you can avoid me so easily."
"I don't have any more money Sunset."
>"Who says I'm after money? I think you're going to be my new favorite plaything."
"Please no.. I, I didn't do anything, come on, just leave me alone!"
>"I don't think so Anon.. From now on you're going to do whatever I ask or.."
>She snaps her fingers.
>Snips and snails are at the ready with their phones like obedient soldiers ready to do her bidding.
"Alright.."
>She pats you on the head.
>"So loyal and obedient, just like a dog."
>Her mocking down gives you a sickening feeling in your stomach.
>"Meet me in the storage closet after school, I think this dog needs a few obedience lessons."
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>>25838139
This needs more rape, idk.
Seriously though, the sexual tension is off the charts
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>>25838152
>You do as she asks meeting her in the storage closet.
>Sunset sits atop a box.
>Snips and Snails are there too.
>"Shut the door, and lock it too."
>You hesitantly comply.
>"Come closer."
>You walk closer to her.
>"Strip. Down to your skivvy's, go."
>Your heart thumps.
"Y-you can't really expect me to-"
>She's got her finger over the "send" button with the thumbnail and video attachment of you.
>She isn't messing around.
>You reluctantly obey Sunsets orders as you take off all your clothes.
>They're snapping pictures now.
>No doubt for further blackmail.
>You're down to just your underwear.
>"Hands behind your back now. Snips, Snails, tie up his hands."
>They get behind you tying up your arms with rope tightly.
>Sunset slides her boot under your package.
>"Do you like being my slave little doggy?"
>The pressure from her boot is stiffening your cock.
"N-no, of course not!"
>She pulls out a collar putting it on you.
>On the tag in a little heart tag, "Property of Sunset."
"Oh come on, how far are you going to-"
>"Quiet! I've got enough evidence on you to where you could never show your face in public again if I wanted to."
>She smiles.
>"Now be a good boy and get on your knees."
"W-what?"
>I said on your knees!"
>Suddenly you feel an electric pulse run through the collar.
"W-what the hell!?"
>You try struggling but your arms are tied up behind your back.
>"Not so 'big' now are you Anonymous?"
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>>25838170
"W-why are you doing this?"
>You say getting to your knees.
>"Because I can, and you're my dog now, so you have to do what I say or else."
>She wraps a blindfold over you.
"Oh great, now what?"
>"Just wait."
>You hear undressing.
>She shoves your head into something wet and smelly.
>This feels like..
"Ugh, is this your vagina?"
>"Shut up and lick it you slave!"
>You feel the shock through the collar again.
>You comply licking Sunsets pussy.
>You feel the wetness of it all over your face as you lick.
>"Mmm, that's right, keep going."
>You feel another shock.
>You lick her faster and more vigorously.
>"Mmm, that's a good boy, just like that."
>She rubs your head as you obediently lick her pussy.
>You can't even see it..
>Being forced to eat her out while being tied up and in front of others..
>You really are Sunsets little boyslut.
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>>25838149
People who like the old Sunset and can't accept that she's developed aren't even Sunsetfags. They're edge lords who want to shoot up their school because "wah wah wah nobody loves me, nobody understands me, I like hurting people because I'm so dark and cool".

They really need to go back to creating their special snowflake Sonic OCs.
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>>25838215
I just think she's really sexy like that. I fucking LOVE bad girls..
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>>25838215
I mean seriously, look at how fucking sexy she is when she's being bad.

10/10 she can "bully" me all day long.
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>>25838317
This desu senpai
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>>25838149
>sunsetfags not even once
Wow epin trolling. Seriously go back to 9gag or wherever you shitposting retard.

>>25838215
I'm a Sunsetfag and I love the old Sunset. I wish more people would just look back and see how much more potential she had instead of being brainwashed little shits and claiming she's soo much better off now with her "charikter devipment"

>>25838247
>>25838317
And yeah, hella sexy like that too.
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>>25838317
So "old" Sunsetfags are either betas who want to watch her get fucked by other guys or edge lords who think they're dark and mysterious because the want to hurt other people.

Glad we cleared that up.
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>>25838405
Shut up fag, do you really think we're better off with Pic Related than the glorious Old Shimmer?

"H-hi m-my n-name i-i-i-is S-s-sunset, h-h-how are you?"

And other such fucking retarded green of her.

Seriously, she was WAY better off as a bully.
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>>25838391
The fact that you're calling people "brainwashed little shits" because they like how Sunset actually is tells me you aren't really a Sunsetfag. You're more than welcome to like how she was but if you're bashing her because she's changed from a third rate villain to a developing character you clearly don't like the character and you prefer the attitude; the dazzling thread or a Gilda thread would be more your speed.
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Shimmer thread you say, lets get this going.
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>>25838450
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>>25838432
I loved the old Sunset, the one who had ambition and passion.

Not what Hasbro shills WANTED you to see. The REAL Sunset is mean and vicious and awesome.

Seriously, the whole new outfit, and new look is another attempt to hide how she used to be.

How she was meant to be, someone who only lusted after power, and was willing to do whatever it took to get it.


Just look at how she is right now, completely devoid of anything outside of being friends with the mane 6.

If anyone isn't the real Sunsetfag its you. You only want her to be nice, and good, a little goody-two shoes who dindu nuffin.

No, she bullied and brainwashed a whole school to turn them into a demon army to fucking takeover the world like a goddamn badass.

That's the Sunset I LOVE.
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>>25838441
>>25838450
>>25838460
>>25838477
I prefer her OLD look thank you.

OG status right here niqqa.
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>>25838471
You mean the Sunset who realised she fucked up big time the moment she got what she wanted. You say bully Sunset is the "real" Sunset yet this is proven false in the very first film. The mean, bulling Sunset was just a phase for her and she was trying to use it to get what she wanted then when she got it she saw how wrong she was to act the way she did.

TL:DR Bulling Sunset=phase, current Sunset=true Sunset
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>>25838494
Both looks have their merit.
The old look has that sexy leather jacket, skirt combo but it also has the ridiculous boots that all EQG character seem to have.

The new look has the better looking boots and you can never go wrong with leggings, especially on a girl with curves like Sunset has.

Anyway pic related is the superior Sunset outfit
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>>25838506
Oh yeah? Look at how HAPPY she is right here, she looks like she just came so hard I'm surprised they didn't animate it dripping down her legs.

Ok I'm not surprised cause it's a kids show, but you get my point. I mean come on, she REALLY WANTED THIS. So badly that she manipulated literally everyone to get it.


Think about it like this man, did you ever just go do something, like really do something you wanted to do, so fucking badly that you probably spent nights up just thinking about it, and then when you actually get it be like, "Eh, nah, this is shit."

No, no one does that. She was probably just crying because demon transformation hurts or something.
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>>25838527
Not bad, not bad at all.

But just take a gander at THIS, literal semen demon.

I would devote myself to the darkside in an instant for that.
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>>25838531
She may have wanted it but the moment she got it she realised that how she got it was the wrong way and she fucked up.
> She was probably just crying because demon transformation hurts or something.
You mean like when Twi transformed into a demon, oh wait no she didn't. Twi didn't cry when she transformed but Sunset did so it stands to reason the pain wasn't the cause.
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>>25838174
I shouldn't be this hard at 6 in the morning. Thanks for the green, you cocktease.
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>>25838554
Or you could have a literal goddess capable of overpowering the EOH.

Also is it just me or was she a lot less curvy in the first film.
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>>25838134
>Jane Jetson on your aaa
Topkek
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>>25838174
>You feel yourself becoming incredibly hard.
>You hear Snips and Snails laughing at you.
>They're probably recording you on their phones.
>You're so pathetic right now..
>But you have to keep licking, or she'll shock you again.
>Besides, somehow, you're..
>Really starting to like this..
>Your cock beginning to throb so hard against the fabric of your briefs.
>The thought that you're pleasuring her.
>Is making you so unbelievably hard.
"I-is this good.. Am I doing good miss Shimmer?"
>"Shut up and keep licking."
"Yes miss Shimmer."
>Why are you so pathetic?
>Why can't you resist her?
>She's reduced you to a sniveling pussy eating slave..
>So why, why does it make you so hard?
>She shoves your head into her pussy.
>Your face covered in her juices as she cums her smelly femcum all over you.
>Sunsets ragged breathing has her hands claw into your head.
>She pulls you away.
>"Not bad, for your first time."
>Your cock so shamefully hard..
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>>25838765
>You hear her getting dressed.
"W-wait, what about me?"
>"What about you?"
"W-well, I mean.."
>"Please, do you really think you're worthy enough to get to cum in my presence? Wait till I'm gone and jerk yourself off loser."
"Please, I'm begging you, I need to cum.."
>"Oh really? What's in it for me?"
"I'll do anything you ask, please.."
>You've lost it at this point, you can't help yourself..
>"Will you wear that collar I gave you at all times?"
>You hear the click of what you assume to be an audio recording device.
>You don't care at this point..
"I Anon, consent to wearing this collar at all times.."
>Click.
"W-was that good enough?"
>Sunset pulls off your blindfold with her foot.
>She's sitting atop a box now.
>She rubs her bare foot all over your face.
>You feel such a rush of ecstasy.
>How are you getting so turned on by this?
>"Lay down slave."
>You comply.
>Sunset takes her bare feet,
>You can almost see up up skirt as she rubs her barefeet all over your cock.
>It's a horribly uncomfortable position with your hands stuck behind you like this.
>But you don't care.
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>>25838813
>Sunsets bare feet are rubbing all over your cock.
>She skillfully pulls off your underwear with her toes.
>Her bare feet slide across your cock.
>"Wow Anon, I didn't realize you'd get so turned on from just my feet."
>The soft pressure of her bare feet rubbing up against your shaft.
>It feels so wonderful..
>Sunset working your shaft between her toes now.
>"If I let you cum, you will do whatever I ask, right Anon?"
"Yes, I promise, I'll do whatever you want!"
>"Mmm, such a good little slave.."
>She spits on your cock rubbing her saliva along your dick with her feet.
>Shes incredibly dexterous vigorously stroking you now.
>Cupping your dick between the middle of both of her feet.
>You can't take it.
>You cum all over her feet.
>You sit up now.
>She gets down kneeling down to you.
>She rubs her hand along your chin.
>"From now on you belong to me, understood?"
"Yes miss Shimmer."
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>>25838822
The next day..
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>You're over by your locker, Sunset comes through the hall with her crew.
"Good morning miss Shimmer."
>You say with a courteous bow.
>The collar around your neck, the tag dangling as you bend toward her.
>"Well this is a change of pace, wheres my money?"
"R-right here!"
>You say whipping out your wallet.
>You pull out 20 dollars handing it to her.
"D-did I do good?"
>"Someone is learning his place, want to come eat with me at lunch? It's on me of course."
>She says tauntingly waving the money around.
"I would be honored."
>"Heh, you should be.. Don't wait up.."
>She says walking down the hall, students cowering in her wake.
>What is wrong with you?
>Since when did you become such a submissive bitch?
>You've got to snap out of it!
>You've got to convince yourself that it doesn't feel good to serve her..
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>>25838563
Except Twilight did cry. Pay closer attention when the magic overtakes her.
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>>25839180
This.
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>>25837587
I like the idea of an evil Sunset, but not as it was displayed in the first movie. Sunset's backstory made her out to be Twilight's equal, who instead chose power over friendship. It would've been cool to see Twilight and Sunset battle each other with their knowledge and magic. Unfortunately we got a Mean Girls movie with an anticlimactic rainbow laser blast. Ironically Starlight has a pretty shit backstory, but she give me more of what I expected from evil Sunset
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>>25837587

Ruined by the power of friendship, just like Discord. The moral of the story is to never make friends with anyone.
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>>25839279
>It would've been cool to see Twilight and Sunset battle each other with their knowledge and magic.

It really would have ;_;

Why didn't it happen like this..

Oh well, Evil Sunny is sexy, and I want to fuck her.

>>25839837
>Ruined by the power of friendship

Trust no one, enslave them all.

Not even me, just make me another of your willing subordinates Sunset, and I will follow you into battle.
Why is bad girl shimmy gone forever brehs?
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>>25839968
>Why is bad girl shimmy gone forever
Because high school bullies are boring and generic as fuck for villains in a high school setting
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>>25840090
This. The only way it would be more stereotypical would be if she was the captain of the football team and called everyone brah or dude.

>>25838581
I think you're right she does look a lot less hiptastic in the first film compared to the others.
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>>25840090
She can "high school bully" my dick all day long.

>>25840119
How would you have introduced Sunset?
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>>25839000
I shouldn't be turned on by this.
But I am.
Keep it going
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>>25839000
>Finally lunch rolls around.
>You get to the lunchroom.
>A spare seat at the table, with a lunch already ready.
>And there isn't one, but two slices of pizza, the kind you like, with chocolate milk..
>It may seem shitty, but it's practically the holy grail of school lunches.
>"So glad you could join us."
>"Who's this freak?"
>Asks Cherry Berry.
>Sunset shoots her a death glare that you're pretty sure just made Cherry Berry pee herself.
>"This, Is my friend I was telling you about, Anonymous."
>"Augh, so this is that new 'boytoy' you were talking about?"
>Flash across from you questions.
>"He is, and look at how handsome he is, it's almost like if you weren't careful Flash, you could be easily replaced by him."
>Flash stands up.
>"Are you kidding me!?"
>"My my, someone needs to mind his temper."
>"You're gonna replace me, with, him??"
>"Goes to show I don't need you trying to boss me around."
>She says flicking her thumb across her fingers.
>"Gah! You know what, fine! If that's the way you want it, so be it!"
>He gets up storming off taking his tray with him.
>Sunset is smiling.
>"He'll be back. Flash too needs to learn his place.."
>It's raining and thundering ominously outside..
>You wonder if it's a sign of things to come.

Keep this bumped I will write more when I wake up.
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New Sunset is one of the blandest, most shallow characters in the MLP universe
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>>25841622
>I don't like character growth
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>>25841622
I agree with this so much.
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>>25841622
and old Sunset is even more bland and shallow than that.
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>>25841657
This. Sunset has gone from "generic high school bitch no.4" to passionate and caring but hasn't become the perfect mary sue character.
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Bump. Must keep thread alive.
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>when u tie ur shoe
Idk
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>>25838405
>if you're into bad girls, you're either a beta or super edgy
Or bad girls are just hot. It's not rocket science, Anon. It's boner-science, the simplest science there is.
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>>25841657
>implying character growth is implicitly good
Characters can be developed in bad ways too, Anon. Sometimes stagnation is the best route, especially when the writers are too incompetent to handle a character.
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>>25841600
Please writebro, I want some more.
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>>25841622
So was Old Subset.
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>>25842056
*Sunset
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I miss when she was Flash's cocksleeve.
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Bump for Sunset Slaver green
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>>25843167
Come on man, I'm going through withdrawals. Hook me up!
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Hurry up you lazy twat
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>>25838506
>EqG1
>she bullies everyone in CHS and has them shaking in their hooker boots at the very sight of her
>she's clearly having fun with it
>EqG2+3
>she gets bullied by everyone in CHS and shakes in her hooker boots at the very sight of anyone who's not the mane six
>she's clearly a whiny, miserable maggot.

HMM I WONDER WHERE SHE FUCKED UP. HMMM.
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>>25843859
Sounds like she needs someone to roleplay with.
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>>25844097
>implying it'd be roleplay
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>>25837587
I've always liked to imagine that deep down she's still mostly her old self, but for the sake of learning about friendship and keeping the respect of the mane 6 she keeps it hidden and puts on a meek facade.

I loved that one moment in Rainbow Rocks when she intimidates the fuck out of Trixie.
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>>25837587
Sunset Shimmer is not simply a bully.
She is not Fluttershy 2.0.
She is not a mirrored Twilight.
Sunset Shimmer is complicated.
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>>25844608
damn right she is
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>>25844608
I can't stand it when people want a villain to be evil because evil, unless it's somehow in their nature to be. Sunset wasn't born bad, and trying to remove any sympathetic traits or logical motivations just reduces her character. Even taking the first movie alone as evidence, does it make sense to say that the girl who refused to hurt Spike when she had the chance was still in her right mind when she tried to kill the main six a few moments later? Does it make sense to say that when the influence which made her go to those lengths was gone, she wouldn't look back and regret it? And is it hard to believe that when one of her main motivations- the belief that friendship wasn't worth anything- was proven wrong, she'd want to follow a different path?
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I want to rub sunset shimmers legs.
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>>25844928
I want to be Sunset's bodyguard and keep her safe from any angry students after her initial takeover attempt and revealed pony ancestry.
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>>25844775
Gonna unload a bit of autism here:

Changing her beliefs is fine, of course.

But the way her personality was completely flipped on its head was, at the very least, odd.

She had balls of steel (figuratively) - then she became meek and constantly afraid/worried.
She was ambitious and a go-getter - then she became shy and overly careful.
Etc.

Granted, she seems to have mellowed out a bit in Equestria Games but my point still stands.

Her learning her lesson is fine. Good, even. It fits the nature of the show.
But the vast and sudden change to her character is hard to understand.

People may change as they experience stuff but they tend to keep their core personalities.
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>>25844980
Come to think of it, did anyone in the movies actually touch on her being a horse? Like "hey sunset, something something horse joke"? That seems like a pretty important thing to just drop.
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>>25844986
Turning into a demon has that affect on people.
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>>25844986
Don't mistake caution for weakness. Sunset hadn't really lost her old strength, she was just afraid of using it because she knew how easily she could hurt someone again. She also held back on expressing her thoughts about the situation because she assumed that the main six were more knowledgeable than she was. They did beat her once before, after all. Remember that as soon as she was up against people who she knew were no good (Trixie and the Dazzlings), she put up much more of a fight. Friendship Games showed this even further by having her take the lead of the main six, and I'm sure I don't need to mention the time she blew up at Scilight.
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>>25845040
The animation really improved between the first and second movies.
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>>25845065
>as soon as she was up against people who she knew were no good (Trixie and the Dazzlings), she put up much more of a fight
You mean that time she confronted the Dazzlings and they just insulted her, pushed her around, and smugly walked away while she looked defeated?

Besides, those examples are dwarfed by the number of times when she looks scared or sad. Every time she looks at other people or talks about her past, it's like she's on the verge of tears.

I can understand her regret, but after seeing what a remorseless dominator she was for an entire movie it seems like overkill for someone like her.
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>>25845085
>>25845130
>>25845143
Fucking love these.
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>>25838405
>Dark and mysterious
I kek'd more than I should 've
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>>25845199
The trouble is, Sunset's smart and she's way more socially perceptive than Twilight. That worked in her favor for a while. As long as she thought friendship was worthless and power was all that mattered, she could justify anything to herself in pursuit of her goals. That probably made her feel like the most accomplished person in her world, hence her confidence and happiness as a villain. But as soon as she was defeated, all that knowledge and awareness turned back on her. She knew exactly how much damage she'd caused and exactly how much she deserved the treatment she was getting, and she was too rational to be able to deny it to herself, even a little. There's nothing better at breaking down confidence than unavoidable guilt.

As capable as Sunset is, she's still (figuratively) only human.
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>>25845410
>she's still (figuratively) only human
Heh.

But I'm going to have to disagree again. Losing confidence shouldn't break down your fundamental personality.
Feeling guilt doesn't mean you become spineless. It just means you're ashamed of yourself and feel like you should do better.

She was doing fucking great in several ways until Twilight came around, impressing Celestia and learning magic from her, tracking down the crown, and then taking control of an institution in an alien world on her own. She was a force to be reckoned with and she knew it.

She only failed in one thing. Just one. And that was misjudging friendship.
She had nailed everything else. Magic, magical artifacts, information-gathering, socializing and manipulation, etc.

Getting beaten in the final moment of triumph by the power of friendship was a big blow, yes, but it had to be extreme trauma to cause the kind of effects we're seeing.
When have you ever seen a happy, socially adept, personally aggressive person reduced to a timid loser by a SINGLE failure? Sure, deeply unpleasant events can leave scars but scars don't equal crippling injuries.
As far as I can tell, Twilight & Co. literally traumatized her.
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>>25845003
I don't remember anything about that, actually. Just the obvious amazement with Twilight being from another dimension and Spike being a talking animal.
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>>25845873
I believe you're misinterpreting what she became. Sunset has never been spineless or a timid loser. She made the decision not to stand up to people who she believed had valid reasons to dislike her, but note how she acted around her friends, particularly with the ongoing "no offense" thing. If she really was the Fluttershy 2.0 people claim, she would have just shown more fear and depression in response to hearing her past brought up. Instead, she appeared mildly annoyed but chose not to press the issue.

Sunset's actions in the second movie weren't the behavior of a person too afraid of judgment to approach anyone. She just recognized what she'd done and decided to bear the consequences of it, to not force forgiveness from anyone who wasn't ready to accept her yet.
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The REAL thing I miss is her old color scheme. Why does it looked washed out now?
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>>25846932
Because she's been acting the opposite of her normal self.
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>>25847002
This, the way Shimmer is acting now is nothing like how she used to act.

And it isn't because of "character development" it's because of bad writing.

An ex Nazi solider doesn't become a patron fucking saint overnight.
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>>25847431
Explain, please.
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>>25847521
You can't just have one character become a completely different character.

It doesn't make sense and it's fucking stupid.
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>>25847729
Anakin Skywalker?
Idk
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>>25847973
Even as hammy as that was done, there was at least some buildup.

I mean, I'd by that hamfisted transformation over Sunset Shimmers anyday..

You know what, in my headcannon, she's still evil. She's just a fucking psychopath who can suppress her emotions.

There, I feel better now.
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>>25848030
Vegeta?
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This thread must survive the onslaught of filly hoes
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Just watched Equestria Games.

Sunset Shimmer even points out how petty it is to care about highschool shit. Hell they all start to point it out at some points.

Wonder if the writers and such secretly resent Equestria Girls existance.
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>>25848849
*Friendship Games
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>>25837587
I kind of agree.

Sunset Shimmer's character concept was pretty amazing, and I felt like it was wasted on a movie. I feel like if I had been put in charge of things, I would have wanted her as a reoccurring antagonist for Twilight and... Actually wreck Twilight's shit.

But how does Twilight keep overcoming Shimmer in the end?

She doesn't. Applejack, Rarity, Rainbow Dash, Pinkie, even Fluttershy or Spike end up making the difference at the end of each encounter that would send Shimmer packing until next time. Because the show is still called "friendship is magic", thus, Shimmer might be more powerful, but Twilight's friendships are stronger than Shimmer's power

Or course, this would lead to some escalation, Shimmer constantly making plots to remove Twilight from her friends, split them up, steal the macguffins that power them, and possibly even try to one-up Twilight further by doing some equivalent of an Alicorn transformation. (not quite the same as the demon form, I keep defaulting in my head to some ritual that basically makes her part dragon or something).

All the while, what she really wants is to prove to Celestia she was the better student and the one more deserving to become a princess.
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>>25848859
The fuck do I care about the movie's name. The fuck do you care?
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>>25848876
Don't get fookin wise with me lad
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>>25848888
THE MOVIES ARE FUCKING RETARDED. THE ONLY THING BECOMING LESS RETARDED IS SUNSET SHIMMER BECAUSE THE WRITERS KNOW THE WHOLE PREMISE OF HIGHSCHOOL BULLSHIT IS RETARDED.

Hell, buffy the vampire slayer barely touched on anything actually involving schooling.
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>>25848897
Which is why they need to move Sunset back to equestria and into the actual show
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>>25848902
Fat chance of that, just finished S5 as well. Starlight Glimmer pretty much fills that role now.

What are the chances of hasbro approving a spinoff about reformed characters that are all possibly Twily-tier or above?
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>>25848926
Depends how much dosh they can make from it.
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>>25848897
Highschool is honestly one of man's worst inventions.
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>>25848944
I didn't get much out of it, look where I am now posting on this godforsaken horse board.
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>>25848966
/an/ is the horse board. This is the pony board.
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>>25848966
People say you get what you put into it, but in reality all you get is a discount on college if you're an A-student or a possible discount if you're a concussion addict in sports. If you're anything else, it's a waste of 4 years that will not only not prepare you for real life of you don't go to college but also wont prepare for 4 years of debt-inducing liberal indoctrination that is college in itself. Pretty much all you get out of it is the ability to say you finished highschool which even in itself isn't considered anything to be proud of.
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>>25849045
"You must be new here."
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>>25849083
Now this I can get behind.
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>>25849100
"D-do I really have to do this?"
>"You want to make friends don't you?"
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>Sunset Shimmer will never kick you in the balls for daring to ask her to prom
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>>25849232
Just tell her how much you respect her.

Stroke her ego and tell her how she's the best thing since sliced bread.
Don't sell yourself short, be persistent.

You might get lucky.
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>>25849273
I tell sunset shimmer she's a reasonably person and great on her own, even compared to twily. She did all sorts of things to prove this and to show up twily and such is petty.

She's a princess all on her own.
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ah I miss that livesmutanon's Sunset p0rn thread
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>>25849362
I'd be Sunset Shimmers evil adviser.

She can use me for sex and companionship all while plotting her world domination.

But she has to keep me at arms length, and trust no one, not even me.

Watch as she builds her evil empire, watch as she controls and manipulates hundreds of thousands.

All the while I watch and keep tabs from the shadows.

It gets my cock so hard just thinking about it.
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>>25849401
I was aiming more for y'all evil sunset shimmer to go straight to reasonable, level-headed, and friendly SS without the retarded plot points.
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>>25849446
Thats just my personal fantasy.

Speaking of which though, imagine how much better EQG would have been if Pic Related happened?
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>>25849467
Porn
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>>25849467
>It's dark in the Principals office.
>Sunset Shimmer sits enigmatically in the chair.
>Twilight Sparkles hands still bloody from breaking the glass to steal the crown as she places it on Sunset Shimmers head.
>Twilight Sparkle like a submissive lovesick puppy strips down completely for her, doing a bit of striptease.
>Sunset attaching a collar and a leash on her.
>Twilight getting down on her hands and knees and passionately licking Sunsets boots in complete and utter subservience to her.
>Twilight devotes her life to being Sunsets personal loveslut while Shimmer takes over the world.
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"Get on your knees and start licking."
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"How about a shower Anon? I got one all ready for you."
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Sunset is pretty.
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>>25849484
it happened anyway

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some things that people keep forgetting is that:
1. it took SS a long time to get the "power" she had over the students of CHS
2. Twilight comes in and destroys it all in less than 2 days
3. SS never encountered any real opposition until Twilight showed up
4. SS's plans unraveled quickly as this "nobody" shows up and has everyone rallying around her
5. her "evil" side took over when she transformed into the raging she-demon
6. she inadvertently helped create/awaken the EoH in the EqG universe


my thinking is that SS actually followed the events of the first season (maybe 2), grew jealous that she wasn't chosen to oversee the SSC and saw that the "shut-in" that was Twilight, gained friends and became a bearer of an EoH
a power that she wanted to have for whatever reasons

as SS said in FG, she was a "hooves" on type of student, getting out there and doing stuff out in the field
also, she would have to have been in Equestria in order to get a fake crown made
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I don't dislike that Sunset joined the good guys. I'm more disappointed that they changed her character before she did.

Here was a great chance at having a competent, badass main girl who could wreck villains' shit instead of fretting around when shit hit the fan. Dash is the only one who comes somewhat close to this, and she's more of a silly braggart than someone who actually gets things done.

Sunset could even have been used as a tool for teaching little kids to have guts and not be afraid of adversity along with filling the feminist quota for stronk womyn on TV.

But no, instead they stripped her of everything that made her kickass to the point where she's almost just like Fluttershy. What a waste.
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>>25850360
>But no, instead they stripped her of everything that made her kickass to the point where she's almost just like Fluttershy. What a waste.

I blame the liberal-jew media for brainwashing our children and not redpilling the fuck out of everyone.

Sunset Shimmer was an amazing unstoppable machine. she dominated that entire school but some snobby nerd upstart comes in and fucks it all up..


Twilight probably just sits around smoking fucking weed and sitting around all day living off her fucking parents cause she's studying for her liberal arts degree that she'll never use and just end up being a pretentious bitch overall working at goddamn Best Buy or the home improvement store, some no name shit the internet wants to give a voice to because she's got a halfway decent body, that is until Tumblr gets a ahold of it and you can say goodbye to that too!
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>>25850448
>Sunset Shimmer was an amazing unstoppable machine. she dominated that entire school
It would've been pretty awesome if this kind of thing could've worked with the forces of good for once instead of just being an evil trademark.

Goddammit, Hasbro, you missed one hell of an opportunity.
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ITT:
>old SS made my pee pee hard and that's why I want her back
what a wonderful counter argument about why old SS is better than new SS
quit bitching
she's never coming back, so get used to it
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>>25850588
Freud pls. You don't have to want to fuck something to like it.
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>>25837587
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>>25850588
Shut up Kike, go back to sucking Rachel Maddows girlcock you femmy pot smoking scum.
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>>25848876
Equestria Games is an episode of the show, Friendship Games is a movie. Do not confuse one for the other.
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>>25850757
Friendship games and Rainbow rocks to a lesser extent were both pure shit..


Oh and did you realize they removed the Sunset Shimmer scene in friendship games!?

They fucking cucked us!!
They removed our scene!!

FUCK YOU HASBRO YOU FUCKING JEWS I DON'T GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT SCILIGHT FANFICTION BULLSHIT I SAT THROUGH THAT HORSESHIT FOR SUNSET AND I WAS ROBBED OF AN ENTIRE SONG NUMBER SO YOU COULD JERK YOURSELVES OFF TO THE NERDIER VERSION OF BOOKHORSE!!
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>>25850839
but they're saving it for EqG 4
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>>25851053
Oh really? I haven't heard anything about it, cite your sources.
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>>25841600
Hurry up, negro
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>>25850588
>cherry picking posts
Nice try, but no dice. Besides, if you want to point out the bad arguments, how about MUH CHARACTER GROWTH? Not all character growth is good character growth, but neo/mlp/ will suck any writers dick that "adds depth" to some character.
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>>25841600
>Snails comes up to you after school.
>"H-here!"
>He hands you an envelope.
>It smells like feminine perfume.
>You open it up.
>It's an invitation.
>And what the hell is this written on, 16th century parchment?
>Happylane avenue, woah that's not far from where you live.
>At 6 tonight?
>Oh god what is this?
>First sitting with the cool kids at lunch, and now sleepovers?
>This is getting intense as fuck.
>You brace yourself as you head over to Sunsets house.
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>>25852922
>It is literally a house.
>Unassuming, lights on, dark outside already.
>Palms are sweaty..
>You take a deep breath as you go and knock on the door.
>Snails answers, and in a very snooty voice asks,
>"Ehh, do you have an INVITE?"
>You sigh,
"You literally just gave me the damn thing earlier."
>He raises an eyebrow taking the letter and examining it.
>"Well what do you know, it's the real thing! It even has the little stamp.."
"Yeah, great, can I come in now?"
>"Sure, I mean I guess."
>He departs from the door leaving you to wander inside.
>You expect some kind of loud obnoxious party music, red solo cups and booze everywhere.
>But theres none of that.
>Instead soft classical music is playing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbtTBF0GS34
>You walk inside.
>There are guests dressed well to semi-casual along a long banquet table.
>"Welcome Anonymous."
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>>25852930
>Sunset says sitting enigmatically at the head of the table.
>You take your seat at one of the empty seats.
>Sunset is dressed as she usually is.
>Other guests here are Rarity, Fluttershy, and Rainbow Dash.
>You're served Steak and mashed potatoes by Snips.
>"Now down to the matter at hand, Rarity you wanted-"
>"Extra supplies to use for my crafts, dressmaking isn't free."
>"I understand, I'll make sure funds are allocated to the Schools Art budget."
>"And what about the Friendship Games huh? We lose every single year to crystal prep, what can you do about that?"
Rainbow Dash brashly interjects.
>"Oh, I'll make sure our school wins, they'll have to, or else."
>"Y-you can really make that happen?"
>"Of course. You'll see."
>"Um excuse me but, if I may just interject for a moment, the um, animal shelter, needs more funding to take better care of the animals. There's hardly any staff, the cages are almost always dirty and-"
>"I understand, I'll get some people who would just LOVE to be willing volunteers to help the poor animals."
>"W-wow! Thank you Sunset."
>"What can I say, I am generous am I not?"
>"And kind!"
>"And loyal to your friends for sure!"
>"Just be sure that you keep your end of what we agreed upon earlier."
>They all nod.
>"Thanks Miss Shimmer!"
>Sunset smiles in a way that makes you ever so slightly uncomfortable.
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>>25852948
>After business is concluded the party guests disperse from the table.
>You've eaten your meal.
"Uh, pretty sweet operation you've got going here."
>"Oh?"
"Yeah, seems, pretty professional whatever it is."
>"I doubt you could understand the complexity of my schemes."
"Perhaps not, but from what I can tell you've got things under control."
>"They've all agreed to have everyone from their circle vote for me, the sports jocks, the arts freaks, and the environmentalists."
"Votes for what, a dance?"
>"The fall formal."
"The fucking prom? That's your big master plan-"
>You feel a huge shock from Sunset as she has a rather disgruntled look on her face.
"I-i'm sorry."
>"Don't forget your place.."
"I'm sorry, Miss Shimmer.."
>"Hmnph. The Fall Formal has a bigger significance than you think."
"Oh?"
>"The winner has a guaranteed paid internship at the MegaBuzz Corporation run by CEO Filthy Rich."
"Is that-"
>"And a luxury model car."
"Wow, all that for winning some stupid crown?"
>"As Rich puts it, the qualities of the crown winner reflect qualities of leadership needed to become the CEO of the corporation. I'm going to get that position, and in time I'll take his corporation, which has billions of dollars in assets worldwide."
"Wow, thinking big."
>"As big as you can for this world."
"What are you gonna do once you have it all though?"
>"Dunno, I guess I'll figure it out when I get there."
"Why are you telling me all of this? It was awfully kind of you to let me in on it."
>"Don't mistake my kindness for weakness. If you cross me, weak is not what you will remember about me."
"O-oh.."
>"Anyhow, Flash said he wasn't going to make it, and it looks unprofessional to have me at a social event without some arm candy so.."
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>>25852994
"You want me to accompany you for the evening?"
>"Yeah, you got a problem with it?"
"Nah, no problem, so what are we going to do? Sip champagne and talk about how the invention of the automobile revolutionized the modern world?"
>"If that was a crack at me to imply my party is stiff and boring, I'll have you know I prefer to have things orderly."
"So-"
>She sighs.
>"We're just going to sit around and watch movies and eat popcorn now."
"Ah, now that sounds like a slumber party thing to do."
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>>25853010
>And it is exactly how she described.
>Just a bunch of girls sitting around talking about girl stuff and watching movies.
>The thing she didn't really specifically state was.
>Sunset Shimmer, jacketless, pressed up against you cuddled next to you in a loveseat.
>You're biting your lower lip.
>Sunsets eyes right now are, rather hard to describe.
>If you had to guess, she seems, a bit lost, as if, not really seeing what's in front of her, but looking ahead.
>But her warmth is soothing even if she is pressing awkwardly on your arm in a position that's far more comfortable for her than it is for you.
>But free cuddles from Sunset you are definitely not complaining.
>Other nerds would probably off their right nut for a chance at this.
>It feels good to have your status elevated so.
>When the girls look at you, it isn't weird glares, but envious glances.
>You're her concubine in perhaps the most positive way possible.
>And you're happy with it.
>Sitting here watching this forgettable movie.
>You definitely won't forget this.
>Sunset is only using you as armcandy, a mere placeholder for Flash, but somehow you wish you could make it last forever.
>For this you would gladly serve her more, not as merely her slave, but wiling participant, as her devoted follower.
>The way she does things, her presence to you..
>All of it has been inspiring.
>She so gloriously succeeds in ways you could only ever hope to.
>What at first seemed as such a typical bully had plans which grew beyond the point of high school.
>As the night goes on you relax in Sunsets arms.
>Your hand is allowed to touch some, but of course you dare not stretch your luck by touching such lewd points on her body.
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>>25853250
>No, you have too much respect for her to partake in such debauchery.
>You slide your hand along hers however, and she graciously takes it, giving it the proper squeeze.
>You feel your heart implode with delight.
>This soft hand of hers, and behind her dainty physique is the mindset of a ruthless dictator.
"Sunset, I.. Thank you, for this.."
>"Shh.."
>She moves her head close leaning it against yours, her mouth close to your ear as she nibbles your lobe.
>You bite your lip again feeling unexpected ecstasy.
>"You could at least try to hide how much you're enjoying this, you've been squeezing me all night long.."
"Can't really help it."
>"You're not so bad though, I could see myself getting used to having you around, as sort of, a better known acquaintance."
"Are you, implying, friends?"
>Sunset pulls at your hair playfully with her hand.
>"And we'll see where it goes from there.."
>Her hot breath tickling at your ear.
"Y-yes miss Shimmer."

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Need sleep.

Is anyone actually reading this?
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>>25853262
I like it. Not so much crazy about being blackmailed into slavery, or wearing a collar 24/7. But this last scene was gentle femdom, the best in my opinion.
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>>25853262
Yes. Don't stop!
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>>25852930
Sunset has good taste in music.
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>>25853262
I'm in love
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Bump for survival
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>>25854034
Bump.
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>>25850588
>What are these?
>Logical arguments why MY version of Sunset Shimmer is bad?
>HA! I know just what to do!
>I'll find the worst post in their bunch and simplify it even further, while not acknowledging any other point as to make it look like this is the best their entire section of the fanbase can muster.
Yeah ok buddy
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>>25853262
Lovin it so far. I just hope Anon grows some balls before this is over
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>>25854662
If you want turning the tables, go read literally every femdom hentai ever written. If you wan't alpha emerald savior Anon, go read 90% of the green written on this board. I am perfectly happy with Anon how he is now.
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>bend over
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>>25854709
>rape
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Nose
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Old Shimmer is better than New Shimmer.

Yes, Old Shimmer was a clichéd high school Alpha Bitch archetype. Yes, Old Shimmer had a shit-tier plan with shit-tier execution. Yes, Old Shimmer is a big bundle of wasted potential. New Shimmer is the first two, and only isn't the last one because she has no potential at all.

But you know what Old Shimmer had that New Shimmer will never have?

Moxy.

I understand liking New Shimmer because you're beta and you think New Shimmer is weak and naive enough to fall for your "nice guy" act. I also understand liking New Shimmer because her utter lack of personality (Old Shimmer had a clichéd personality, but at least it was a personality) makes her a good stand in for your high school crush or your nerdy fetishes. But those are the only reasons you'd ever prefer New Shimmer over Old Shimmer. You may deny it, and you may even have yourself fooled, but nobody else is fooled.
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>>25855614
I think RD's character would have been improved a lot if she wasn't the fastest thing alive. Braggarts are only entertaining when they can be beaten at things that can bruise their ego.
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Xddddddr
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>>25853262
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Pumb
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Durr
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Gotta keep this alive
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Blang blong
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I want to cum Sunset
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>when u tie your shoe idk
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>>25858268
>Implying Sunset isn't letting you cum
unf
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>>25858115
>force her to the ground
And eat her hair
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>>25859057
D:<
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>>25853262
>You're sleeping alone on the ground.
>All the girls at one point changed into their pajamas..
>Sunset has retired to her room.
>Around you, girls sleeping all over the furniture.
>You rub at the collar around your neck.
>The small metal barbs pressing into you.
>You could probably get away with taking it off right now but..
>Your fingers slip across the little heart tag which reads "Property of Sunset."
>Probably meant to mock you at the time.
>But you hold it close.
>Something about it, is sort of endearing to you.
>Like a warm embrace, you'll gladly wear it to bed..
>What is wrong with you?
>You must be some kind of masochist to be thinking like that.
>Chasing after Sunset like a lovesick puppy, a literal collar around your neck as if to reinforce that you're her dog.
>But you just, can't seem to muster up the anger you'd once felt..
>All you can think about, every thought going through your head is of Sunset, and what it'd be like to be with her.
>It's consuming you and you can't help it..
>Any normal guy would probably be doing anything he could to get out of this..
>Maybe trying to stop her from winning the Fall Formal..
>But..
>You can't bring yourself to fight against her..
>Shes got you too wrapped up in what could be..
>You find yourself caring about what she wants, and the kind of things that would make HER happy.
>What's wrong with you?
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>>25859140
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Bump or whatever
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Kept you waiting huh
You're pretty good
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*not cgi
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Of courshe!
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>FG SS>RR SS>>>>>>EG SS
Fact.
EG: Generic high school bitch with a plan so shitty even she realised she fucked up once she achieved it.
RR: Insecure due to lack of experience making friends but still has a fiery personality, regains confidence and dominant attitude in the final act all without being a bitch. I seriously don't get why people compare her to Fluttershy in this film, sure she isn't acting like a cunt like in the first one but she's hardly afraid of her shadow and allows people to walk over her.
FG: Confident, loyal and passionate. Not afraid to express herself and is deeply protective of her friends to the point of explosive anger.
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>>25859140
You're making my dick hurt, lad.
Keep going.
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>>25859517
EG: Generic high school bitch with a plan so shitty even she realised she fucked up once she achieved it.
RR: Generic high school outcast with no personality aside from whining about how everyone hates her.
FG: Generic high school outcast with no personality aside from whining about how everyone hates her. But this time has convenient outbursts that service the plot.
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>>25859140
The next day..
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>You're at your locker.
>A quick paced walking sound, heh, must be Shimmer again, what does she-
>SLAM!
>You feel yourself collide with the locker.
>It's Flash?
>"Yo, I heard from Snails you were putting the moves on MY girl last night!"
>Hes got a fire in his eyes which screams business.
>Snails hurriedly running up.
>"*huff* *huff*, It wasn't like that, he was just following Sunsets orders-!"
>"Can it dweeb! You got some nerve you know that, stepping in on my territory, you'd better watch yourself bro, you don't wanna mess with me, I know people."
"Holy shit calm down man!"
>"I can't calm down when you're getting all friendly with my girl you feel me!?"
>These kids and their street talk..
"I feel you bro, but she came onto me man, I was just, going with the flow-"
>He slams his hands against the lockers.
>"Oh I'm sorry, did I break your concentration? What were you trying to say, my girlfriend's a whore? I'm about to get mean Anon, I'm about to get real mean."
>Flash Sentry, 6'0, lean athletic build.
"I wasn't trying to-"
>"You'd better watch yourself, or I'll be coming for you. Got it?"
>Another slam on the locker.
>He walks away.
>Christ..
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>>25859609
Possible scenarios:
>anon bloke kicks Flash's ass and impresses Sunset
>Anon goes to Sunset begging for help with Flash
I can guess which one is more likely to happen
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>>25859606
>RR: Generic high school outcast with no personality aside from whining about how everyone hates her.
>FG: Generic high school outcast with no personality aside from whining about how everyone hates her. But this time has convenient outbursts that service the plot.
>Citation needed.
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>>25859517
I agree with you anon. Unfortunately this thread is filled with fingers-in-ears non-believers.
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>>25859660
True that. I get the feeling that some of the people here can only see things in black and white i.e. "she isn't acting like a bitch so she must be a whining pushover.
Hell if this was a discussion in person they'd be covering their ears screaming how evil Sunset is a superior character then when given evidence proving otherwise they begin screaming even louder and throw a few insults into the mix.
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>>25859655
>>RR: Generic high school outcast with no personality aside from whining about how everyone hates her.
>>FG: Generic high school outcast with no personality aside from whining about how everyone hates her. But this time has convenient outbursts that service the plot.
>>Citation needed.
>EG: Generic high school bitch with a plan so shitty even she realised she fucked up once she achieved it.
>Citation needed
>S2E1+2: Discord is chaotic
>Citation needed
>S3E1+2: Sombra likes stairs
>Citation needed
See how dumb this is?
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>>25859620
I personally like the idea of being Sunset's bitch but not taking anyone else's shit. Like that's her collar, not Flash's. If Flash wants to fuck around, fuck him up.
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love how all of you faggots went serious over a cartoon character
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>>25859703
Here's some advice: Run. Run away, and never look back. If you don't, you'll be getting serious over cartoon characters too. You do NOT want that. You may thinking it'll never happen to you. I thought that too, and was wrong. Don't risk it.
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>>25859703
So pretty much this entire boar? Or /co/ for years prior? Or maybe you mean cartoons and anime pretty much since their conception. Oh, but lets point and laugh at Shimmerfags.
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>>25859695
All you have to do is provide quotes/actions from EQG to try and prove my points wrong but no you decide to go for the ad hominem approach.
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>>25859716
"Sunset doesn't have a discernible personality" is a negative statement. The utter lack of proof for her having a personality is proof of absence, i.e. prove that Sunset's personality is absent.
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>>25859724
Still waiting on that proof son or are you just going to keep spouting the same crap to make yourself feel like you're correct?
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>>25859740
Burden of proof is on you, kiddo. If you don't know what that means, you're really not worth arguing with.
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>>25859745
Or how about you both provide your proof and stop acting like whiney kids?
>You do it.
>Nuh uh! You first!
>No but I said you!
>You can't because I said so.
>But I said!
>No I did!
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>>25859609
>intimidation tactics
Nigga the only thing scary about you is your blue ass hair. Who the fuck you trying to fool?
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>>25859774
Laws of logic dictate that the person who makes the positive statement has the burden of proof. If New Shimmerfags can't into bare bones basic logic, that's their problem.
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>>25859745
This anon is correct. You don't have to supply proof for negative claims, only positive ones. You cannot feasibly prove that a given thing doesn't exist via evidence, and as such you have to rely mainly on the opposing side's lack of evidence.
He's pretty much been dunking on you the entire time.
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>>25859745
This guy is right >>25859774 you can spout all the logical fallacies you like for as long as you like.

Let's make a start:
>Generic high school bitch with a plan so shitty even she realised she fucked up once she achieved it.
It looks like we both agree this point but for the sake of it let's present some evidence to support it.
>Generic high school bitch
Her actions fit the stereotypical high school alpha bitch to the letter; I want to become homecoming queen/prom queen/whatever the dance is queen so I'll humiliate & destroy everyone who's running against me.
>Shitty plan
Attacking a world ruled by demi-goddesses with a child army, in what reality is that going to end well. At best demon Sunset, Snips and Snails will have magic that might pose a threat and only Sunset would have the capability to wield it efficiently.
>she realised she fucked
Tears pouring down her face when she transformed & the entire point of the My Past is Not Today short.

>Generic high school outcast with no personality aside from whining about how everyone hates her. But this time has convenient outbursts that service the plot.
Here is where we differ and you've gone for the fingers in ear, attack the person rather than the argument approach.
>Generic high school outcast
She has friends and isn't that loner sat in the corner wearing an edge-tastic trench coat, that's already well beyond the generic outcast archetype. It could also be said that she was a loner in the first film as well seeing as she only had lackeys.

(Character limit)
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>>25859986
>whining about how everyone hates her
Never once did she complain about how everyone hates her in fact it's the opposite and she is worried about losing the school's trust in her and she becomes upset when she thinks she has failed them. Whenever anyone brings up the past events (the "no offence" running gag) she doesn't cower and back down like everyone here seems to think she shrugs it off with humour with it bordering on annoyance later on. In FG she becomes upset due to her lack of understanding of magic not because people don't like her.

>no personality
I honestly don't know where this comes from you're making it sound like Sunset could be replaced with a brick wall and there would be no difference. Post EQG, Sunset has become one of the more complex characters in my opinion (at least with the screen time she's had).
In RR she is shown as being kind, willing to help and expresses sincere regret about her previous actions, even going as far as befriending former enemies. Midway through RR we see that she hasn't become a pushover with her outburst towards Trixie. In the final act of RR she points out that she lacks confidence in matters of friendship which is why she stayed quiet and this sets her on the path to regaining her overall confidence by the end of the movie.
This continues in FG with Sunset developing further with it being shown that she is deeply loyal to her friends and is determined to help and protect them despite her lack of understanding in magic in the human world. This shows when she becomes worried that she won't be able to work out how the magic works and that she won't be able to help her friends, this culminates in the explosive outburst directed at Sci-Twi, which she the regrets. FG also shows that she is a physical learner, actually going out and doing something rather than pouring over books.
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>>25859996
Now I'm done with this shit, you can go back and stick you fingers in you ears and yell about how "muh evil Sunset is bestest, normal Sunset a shit" without proving why.
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"Sunset please, take my virginity!"
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>>25860001
and that was still not the stangest thing seen in the halls of Canterlot High that made Anon realise he should really stop drinking the Apple's moonshine before class.
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>>25859986
>She has friends and isn't that loner sat in the corner wearing an edge-tastic trench coat
Actually, the sympathetic loner child protagonist with a small but very loyal circle of close friends is a very thoroughly done archetype. If you were old enough to have seen this done over and over again in the late 90's and early 2000's, you would know this.

>Sunset has become one of the more complex characters in my opinion
She's not complex. She's a blank slate. She might seem "complex" because she serves as a catalyst for the plot, meaning her "personality" changes as needed to fit that role, which I suppose could give off the illusion of complexity to someone who wants to believe that she is complex.

>rr and fg "characterization" tripe
Comes down to a formulaic "whiny loser in act one, pushed around by bullies and/or internal conflict in act two, blows a gasket in act three" that we see with this high school loner archetype over and over again. The specifics of this change as is convenient for the plot, because the EqG movies are plot-driven tripe where plot holes and OOC moments are ignored or glossed over as necessary.
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>>25859609
Later that day in the Lunchroom..
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>You spy the table..
>Flash sitting really close to Sunset.
>He gives you a disdainful look.
>"Yoo hoo, Anon, over here!"
>Oh no..
>You walk over to the table.
>You feel a shock from your collar.
"Agh!"
>"You should have hurried when I called you, what was the holdup?"
"I um.."
>You say trying to formulate a response as you sit down.
>Tray already in front of you.
>Chefs salad today..
>"Sunset do we really have to let this loser sit with us? And what was with you taking him to the party last night?"
>Sunset is smiling looking at him.
>"Well, since somebody couldn't make it, I had to make due."
>"You know damn well I had emergency business, my Grandmother, is on her death bed, this may be the last time I ever get to see her."
>"Maybe you should be dating her and not me then, I have things to do and appointments to keep, and I'm afraid if you can't keep up I'll just have to find someone else-"
>"How dare you, I give you my support, and all you've done is take advantage of everything I've given you! You're acting like a spoiled bitch!"
>"Cheer up Flash, I mean, you can't honestly be jealous of Anon here can you?"
>Flash turns his attention to you, great..
>"You'd better stay the hell away from Sunset, I'm warning you.."
"Or what, you'll beat me up?"
>He stands up walking over to you.
>"Yo what'd you say?"
"You heard me you candyass blue haired faggot-"
>Flash tackles you to the ground and starts wailing on you.
>You fight back to the best of your ability.
>"Thats enough, both of you to the Principals office immediately."
>"V-vice Principal Luna."
"Hey what the hell, I was only defending myself!"
>"Fighting is not allowed on school grounds, period, regardless of who hit first."
"What a load of shit.."
>You grab your head feeling your eye swell.
>Sunset looking at you both being hauled off with an amused smile.
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>>25860090
>You walk out of the office.
>Sunset is standing outside with a smug grin, luckily Flash seems to have taken the other exit.
>She has such a smug grin.
"You realize I got suspended because of you, for three days I.."
>Sunset just standing there smiling at you.
"I.. On second thought, Its not so bad, how are you holding up?"
>"Three days huh?"
"Yeah, but because today is Friday it basically just means I'm going home for the rest of today, I'll be back on Monday."
>She reaches out grabbing the suspension slip looking over it.
>"Getting suspended for fighting.. What a rebel..."
"I was just sticking up for myself-"
>She places her finger over your mouth.
>"I like that."
"O-oh?"
>She hands you back the suspension slip.
>She turns to walk away.
>"You just take care this weekend Anon, and put some ice on that eye of yours, it looks pretty bad."
>You look at the suspension sheet.
>Sunset nearly out of sight now.
>On it is her phone number written neatly toward the bottom.
>You smile admiring her neat handwriting..
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>>25860090
I got sent to the office more times than I care to remember on that "any physical contact period is a fight and everyone is in trouble" rule.
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>>25860415
Sometime later...
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>You're home alone, your Mom here hasn't seemed to notice your dog collar.
>If Dad was ever home he might though.
>You walk up to your room.
>You take off your backpack plopping yourself on your bed.
>Maybe if you were a smart kid, you'd actually take the mountains of homework out of your bag and start doing them..
>But then..
>You grab lightly at your collar.
>If you had any sense you probably wouldn't be wearing this..
"Oh well.."
>You say aloud.
>For now, you simply hold up the Suspension sheet.
>You look once again at the handwriting..
>You grab the paper hugging it.
>She does care about you..
>She has to right?
>This is proof isn't it?
>You sigh..
>You turn on your PS4 and start to play.
>You can only wonder what it would be like to be held in her arms again.
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>>25860419
>Wait just a minute, are you a complete moron? This is her number, which means..
>You can call her..
>Oh to hear that sweet commanding voice of hers whenever you want..
>Your body shivers with delight at the thought.
>You try to call her.
>A few moments go by, nothing..
>Was it, the wrong number? No, you entered it right..
>Suddenly your phone vibrates startling you a bit.
These next speech bubbles will represent texts
>"Just text me you dork."
"Ah, ok, I am sorry, Miss Shimmer."
>"What are you doing right now?"
"Not much, you?"
>"I'm bored, I think I'm going to come over, where is your house?"
"What? It's Happylane avenue 3120."
>"Thats not far, be right over."
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>>25860431
>Ok wait what?
>Sunset Shimmer is legitimately coming over?
>To your house?
>Oh god you weren't prepared for this.
>You room looks like a giant mess.
>You panic shifting around through your shit.
>DING DONG.
>Oh no.. You've got a bad feeling about this..
>"Just a minute, I'll get it!"
>Oh no! That sounds like..
>You rush down the stairs, your mother is at the door.
"Oh Sunset, wow, you really don't live that far away do you?"
>"Anon honey, who is this, is this your girlfriend?"
>You look to Sunset.
>Shes smiling.
"Uh, no, I we're-"
>Sunset pipes up,
>"Yes, I'm Anoymouses girlfriend, how do you do?"
"What? You are? I meean of course she is!"
>"Oh how nice, please come on in, tonight we're having spaghetti."
>Sunset smiles.
>"Oh that sounds lovely, I can't wait."
>Sunset says rather menacingly.
>Sunset comes inside.
>You shut the door behind her.
"So, uh, sweetie, what made you want to come over?"
>She grabs your cheeks with her hand squeezing them.
>"I just wanted to see where my precious Nonny-kins goes after school."
>"Oh my, you already have pet names for each other! How sweet.~"
>Sunset sits next to you at the dinner table.
>You've got a clear view of the t.v.
>The oak table ornately decorated with doilies, placemats.
>Your Mom serves up two heaping plates of spaghetti to you both.
>"Your Mom is soo nice Anon."
"Eh, she can be."
>When you have guests over, otherwise she can be a real bitch.
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>>25860431
IT BEGINS
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>>25860438
>"So have you two known each other since the start of school?"
>"Yes, you can say we've gotten very well acquainted."
"Yeeahh.."
>"Oh Anon, I've been meaning to ask, whats with that silly thing around your neck, hold on."
>She grabs the tag.
>Oh shit.
>"Property of Sunset?"
"I-its, just a thing, just a silly joke!"
>"Oh I see whats going on, you two've already gotten intimate with each other, you are using protection right?"
"Ugh Mom!"
>"What I'm just saying if you two are playing these sorts of, inappropriate games, it's no wonder they sent you home early today."
>Sunset is quietly enjoying the spaghetti while you squirm.
"It's well, I mean-!"
>"Do be a little less rough with him though, a black eye?"
>"Anonymous is always forcing me to though! He always wants me to do things rough with him, he practically begs for it!"
>You hide your face in your hands.
>"Ok, that was too much information even for me.. I'll let you two eat some dinner in peace now, I'll just take my dinner to my room and watch my shows."
>Your Mom retreats to the other room leaving you alone with Sunset.
>"Whats the matter Nonny, life got you down?"
"I'm never going to hear the end of this from her."
>Sunset snickers.
>"It's your fault for going along with it."
>You groan eating your moms spaghetti.
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>>25860446
>You've finished your Spaghetti and so has Sunset as you take your plates to the sink.
>Next you go to the fridge grabbing the icecube tray.
>You pull open a drawer full of ziplock bags, then grab a bag filling it with ice.
>Then you grab a washcloth holding the bag of ice to your eye.
"Ah, that hurts.."
>You stagger to the couch feeling your soreness all over..
>Sunset walks over to you.
>"Pretty nice place you've got here Anon."
"Yeah, but I don't really know that many people, so it's usually empty."
>You sit down watching cable t.v..
>You flip through the channels with one hand, icepack in the other.
>You set down the icepack.
>You wring your hand feeling the cold sting of the ice through it.
>Suddenly Sunset picks up the icepack placing it over your eye.
>"It's ok if I hold the icepack over your eye, just like this right?"
"Y-yeah.. Its fine.."
>"And, it's ok, if while I'm doing that, I lay myself over you, just. Like. This. Right?"
>She wraps her other arm around your shoulder laying on top of you.
"S-sure, no issues here!"
>She brings her head close to your ear
>"And if I run my tongue along your neck, thats ok too right?"
"Wait what-?"
>You feel Sunsets tongue drag along your neck.
>You bite your lower lip.
>You shiver with delight..
"Y-yeah thats ok too."
>"Are you sure? I wouldn't want to force you to do anything you don't want to.."
"I.. I'm pretty much ok with whatever you know.. But, don't you have a thing with Flash?"
>"What Flash doesn't know won't hurt him right? Although if you're really so opposed to seeing someone in a relationship, I can always show myself out.."
>Yeah fuck that.
"N-nah I'm cool, you know, it's whatever.."
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>>25860612
>"Even if I.. Touch you somewhere like, right here?"
>Her hand slides right over your groin.
"That's definitely ok. But, I mean, If you wanna do this, I've got a bedroom, we could at least-"
>"But that's no fun Anon."
"Come on-"
>"If you do, I can guarantee we won't have any fun."
"D-does that mean-"
>"I'll only continue for as long as you're out here.."
"But, my Dad could get home, and my Mom might walk out and.."
>Sunsets smug grin right now..
>You sigh.
"Alright, y-you can.. Do whatever you want to me, right here.."
>You felt naughty just saying that.
>"Such a good boy Anon.. So loyal-"
>She swings herself over on your lap straddling you keeping the icepack in place.
>"And obedient.."
>She comes close you your ear.
>"Just like a good little doggie."
>She flicks around the little tag on your collar.
>"Do you wanna be my doggy Anon?"
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>>25860619
wowie zowie
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>>25860619
"Yes please."
>"Mmm, that's good.."
>Holding the icepack she dives down and kisses on your neck.
>Shes suckling down on it.
>Kissing and sucking all over your neck.
>You're not sure your vocabulary contains a word to describe the level of 'unf' you're feeling right now.
>Laying back here while Sunset Shimmer has her way with you in the living room.
>Her hot sucking noises, while this bombshell goes to town on your neck.
>Hair dragging along your shoulder.
>Licking, dragging her tongue along it.
>What is this?
>Sunset comes up and pinches your nose holding it.
>You try to breathe through your mouth but she kisses you.
>You feel yourself gasping for breath as you try to decide which is more important, kissing Sunset Shimmer or breathing.
>The result is an awkward mess of gasping moans between kisses.
>Even air doesn't seem to work as a deterrent as you hold her in your arms kissing her.
>Messy haggard breathing and dripping wet lips with strands of saliva made from having to pull away for air.
>You desperately want her though, more than air, more than life.
>You wish you could hold her like this, and be by her side.
>You and her now stopped staring into each others eyes.
>Those shimmering, enchanting green eyes.
>You want to be hers and belong to her..
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>>25860829
o mai
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>>25860829
Was it something I said? I'm sorry, BlackShark. Baby just please come back.
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>>25860829
Expand
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>>25860829

>"Oh Anooon.."
"Yes?"
>"Will you be a good boy and service me on your parents couch?"
"Alright."
>She climbs off you rolling to the side a bit.
>Shes biting the tip of her index finger.
>You turn to her waiting for her to make a move.
>She turns to you.
>"Aren't you going to take off my panties Anon?"
"O-oh, right, of course.."
>You get down on your knees in front of her.
>Your heart is pounding.
>So many great things you can do in this position..
>You slip your hands underneath her skirt grabbing her underwear by the band.
>Sunset has a lusty look in her eyes.
>It's making you nervous..
>You pull down her panties, down along her thighs and off around her boots.
>You take a good look at them.
>Purple, emblazoned with her little brand that you saw on the invite the other day.
>You toss them aside.
>Sunsets legs closed..
>You take a deep breath as you spread them apart.
>You peer down the center finally getting to see Sunsets pussy for the first time.
>You hope you don't screw this up somehow..
>You lower yourself down to where her pussy is.
>Face inches from it now.
>You lick her pussy along the vulva.
>Licking more, sucking her.
>You pull away feeling her cum as it strings from your mouth.
>You're making her wet..
>You lick and suck her clit now fully exposed.
>Sunsets slight moans rolling smoothly from her vocal cavity.
>You keep eating her out.
>Sunsets hands over your head dragging her fingers through your hair.
>The more you suck, the more lewd it sounds with the slurping of her femcum.
>It's taste is a little weird.
>But you're doing this for her, because you wanna make her happy.
>And making her happy, makes you happy.
>After a few more minutes of sucking you feel her tense before the release.
>Her haggard breathing now..
>"That was good, good boy.."
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>>25861885
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bumpapapapa
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Idk
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Wake me up
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Can't wake up
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>>25861885
>Dad came home only a few minutes after you ate her out.
>Luckily it was enough time for you to shove Sunsets panties into your pocket.
>Sunset asked if she could sort of raid your fridge.
>Shes got a real hankering for that peanut butter ice cream your Mom bought.
>Sunset putting the ice cream in a bowl and chowing down on it.
>You and her head upstairs to your room.
>You both walk inside..
>It's, a mess.
>Sunset makes herself at home right away plopping on your bed.
>"Better hide the porno mags."
"Thats such an old trope these days, no one owns porno mags anymore."
>"Well then you'd better delete your browsing history."
"Don't worry, I always do."
>Sunset is peering around at your room.
"W-what do you think?"
>"You wanna know? I think it's cute."
"I-i'm sorry about the mess."
>"It's your room, and besides, I'm sure you weren't expecting to have me over."
>That seems weirdly understanding of her..
"So do you um.. Wanna play some GTA?"
>"Sure, hand me the controller."
>You comply.
>Sunset looks at you.
>"Well, aren't you going to keep me company over here?"
>She pats the bed.
>You sit over next to her.
"You know, you've been awful nice to me today.."
>You feel a shock run through the collar.
>"Whats that supposed to mean?"
"It's just that, usually, you're a little more judgmental and harsh toward me."
>Sunset shrugs.
>"You've done everything I've asked to the best of your ability. You're much more reliable than Snips or Snails are."
>Sunset seems to catch herself.
>"Not that it means anything.. They're pretty useless most of the time anyway. I could train a couple of circus chimps to perform better than them."
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>>25863064
>You think there was a compliment toward you hidden behind that facade..
"Thanks."
>Sunset takes another bite of the ice cream.
>Sunset turns on the PS4 and starts to play GTA.
>"Ugh, could you take off my shoes, my feet are killing me."
"Y-yes Sunset.."
>Its difficult not to think lewdly of her feet considering your history with them.
>You carefully remove her shoes.
>She wiggles her toes around in her socks.
>You grab each sock pulling them off too.
>Sunsets bare feet are exposed to the air of your room.
>She wiggles her toes around freely now.
>Why do they look so enticing.. They're just feet and yet..
>You get down on your knees and start rubbing them.
>"Oh, are you going to give me a foot massage?"
"I-i um.."
>"You just want to play with them don't you?"
>Sunset plants her foot playfully on your face.
>"Just for a bit, as a reward for earlier."
>You take one of her feet and plant a kiss on it.
"Thank you."
>Sunset laughs at you.
>"Weirdo."
>You stroke Sunsets tender feet rubbing them all over from heel to toes.
>Smelling them, kissing them.
>You're a complete slut when it comes to these feet..
>You can't help yourself.
>You've succumb to complete madness.
>And you aren't regretting it one bit so far.
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>>25863073
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>>25863064
D'aww, Sunset's got a soft spot for anon
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I am tired, I need sleep.

But I'll wake up and write again soon.
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maximum hue
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>>25863308
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bumppppinnnnnnnn
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m8
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Hurr
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gotta love evil sunset
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>>25865925
3lewd4kids
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>>25866116
Looks fine to me
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I like the old hitler he was cool and he fed me fried meat. it tasted odd though.
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>>25852922
>Shimmer didn't noticed but anon went crazy after what she did to her
>he prepares with good'ole pa's gun
>he enters with a smile kills everyone except shim
>rape with fork he found nearby
>goes an hero
Not a single word spoken from anon when this was happening
>shim is left crying alone with the bodies
The end
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i dont know how to 4chan
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>>25866177
It was burnt
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>>25866403
U wot
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>>25866177
I didn't like it. It made me gassy.
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>when u stare at bae
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Intercourse
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