Anyone looking foward to Ibo Season 2?
No
If Gali gali is masked char then yes. if he's dead. meh I'll watch it but I'm not looking forward to it
I'm kinda curious to see what exactly choco-char manages to pull off and what gundam he gets (if he doesn't just stick to the grimgerde), but I have no hopes for the rest of the show.
Some of the designs will probably be neat, though.
I'm looking forward to it ending.
>>14361522
Yes.
I'm going to be optimistic, I doubt it could be worse than the first season.
I also wouldn't mind seeing more MS designsthat aren't Graze
>>14361522
Whoa what month is it again?
I think I accidentally time travelled.
First season was okay, so yes. I want to see how Mika's wild ride will end. Also /m/ getting BTFO again when the show doesn't flop will be fun.
Maybe it'll pull an opposite of 00.
Kinda.
It's easy to turn this around the way I see it.
>>14361522
I'll watch like the first five episodes to see if it actually goes anywhere instead of just building shit up and then ignoring it like season 1 did.
Completely depends, if it's about the growing tensions and possible war between the Outer Sphere and the Economic Blocs vs. Gjallarhorn with decent story telling then sure. However
>Season 2 of a Sunrise show
>Ever good
HELL yea..
I actually liked S1 so sure. It had flaws though, they'll have to work really hard for S2 to be better-received.
>>14361903
Season 1 wasn't good either.
I am looking forward to some cool or silly gunpla from bandai. The show itself can suck all the dicks in the world because I have no expectations at this point
>>14361522
Didn´t the first season failed both in ratings and sales?
>>14362016
>>14362016
don't jinx it.
>>14362057
No, that's just a meme /m/ pushes because they hate it.
>>14362057
Ratings: Very poor.
Video Sales: Good, but not big.
Gunpla: Some stinkers, but sells pretty well.
>>14362083
>Some stinkers
Gusion, right?
>>14362079
Vol 1: 13213
Vol 2: 10285
Vol 3: 9705
Vol 4: 8489
Vol 5: 7607
Vol 6: 6767
Average as of this writing: 9344.
>>14362095
Huge drop. Isn't that low compared to other Gundam series?
>>14362090
Brewers and the Turbines from what I've heard. That's 5/19 kits, and then there are other kits we haven't heard much on (like the Kimaris) so that number may be higher.
But what we do know is that kits like Barbatos, some of the Grazes, and the Grimgerde sell very well.
>>14362104
Still way higher than AGE's (only about 2k) and Try (4.4k). It's about the same as Build Fighters and a little higher than G-Reco (9012). There's also 3 more volumes to come out though, and those numbers can still increase in the meantime.
These numbers are still good for most anime, and Gunpla is where the show makes most of it's money. Ratings though average out to just a cunthair higher than the Kio parts of AGE (after a lot of people bailed during season 2).
>>14362016
>...
Kill yourself
>>14362105
I'm glad for the Graze, it's a fantastic grunt suit but maybe they should tone it down with the variants.
Dumping some IBO webms
Only if they actually deliver this time on the scavenging parts gimmick. And get more budget (or a more talented team) for the combat animation.
>>14361903
Fuck you ZZ was great.
>>14362247
STUDIO 1
STUDIO 1
STUDIO 1
STUDIO 1
If we say it enough times, IBO will get better animation.
>>14361522
Dunno, maybe they will do some actually cool shit or it will fall flat and be shit.
>>14361561
Nah Gali Gali will be a Quattro.
>>14362257
>ZZ was great
Hang on there buddy, no need to get that far ahead of ourselves!
>>14362247
More like sunrise interns.
>>14361522
No.
>>14362209
Why again did Rare Pepe lose?
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>>14362328
Because Mikazuki
>>14362328
Because he ran away rather than fight?
>>14362127
Will do, after I finish banging you mommie.
It's going to be interesting to see what they do. PTA and media watchdog groups have spoken out against the show (the show being too brutal for kids when Mika executed his former bosses, as well as not calling out the Dort workers for making terrorist threats. That last one had one group saying it would be less harmful to show kids porn). Not to mention, while Mika did place in Newtype polls late in the show's run his real reception is kinda mixed. There are enough people who view him as a monster, almost an evil protagonist.
Will the show stick to it's guns until the end? Or will they change the show in order to try and boost the show's popularity? It'll be interesting to tell.
>>14362382
>less harmful to show kids porn
So IBO season 2 will have porn? I've been waiting for erection since last October.
>>14362382
At least it didnt givr us a named space rat as a whore. Next season is perfect for a space hooker turned spy.
Actually of all the poverty portray in IBO they spared us of the prostitution. Must be hard to write it without giving the audience a hard on
>>14362382
Is season 2 still going to be in that same prime time slot? Unless it moves to the late night slot, it's fucked.
>>14361522
No I'm not I just hope it isn't as bad as SEED Destiny. I'll watch it to see where iron boring orphans goes.
>>14362382
They should take the idea of Mika being a psychopathic asshole and run with it, at the very least it will keep the show from being just "one more Gundam" like it is now.
Although knowing Sunrise they'll probably ask to keep that shit down.
Can someone post the Coldsteel Mika edit?
>>14362357
Yeah its pilot was shit
>>14362083
>Ratings: Very poor.
No this is incorrect, there's a few episodes that have significantly lower ratings than other episodes that drive down the average, bu it was more or less consistent. It's ratings are ok.
>>14362382
Japanese media standards are really weird. Apparently it's fine to show Setsuna murdering both his parents as a child in 00 and exploding body parts from SEED, but Mika killing some random nobody who was clearly abusing his authority? OUTRAGE!
>>14362740
Hahahahaha
>>14362382
>>14362770
Didn't they basically go "It's not a show for kids, you fucking idiot"?
>>14362247
They can't really do the scavenging gimmick anymore, can they? Since Tekkadan is now an official organization backed by the government, so they should be set as far as supplies go.
>>14362924
>>14362770
>>14362382
>implying it's not a desperate publicity stunt by Banrise
Yaaaawn.
No Fumitan no watch, I dropped IBO After I found out she died in episode 16.
>>14362095
>dat drop on the last episode
My fucking sides.
>>14362924
You want to know what aired right after IBO? Yugioh. It was also marketed to kids in terms of merchandise.
>>14362951
This. Wake up, /m/orons.
>>14362095
>tfw half price first volume plus included a promo code
Ayy
>>14362292
i like how the graze puts up no struggle while guts slowly gets his weapons out. how considerate
>>14361522
Not anticipating it,will just watch it when it will be out.
>>14362095
So why did it go up and down like crazy like that? As someone who watched it all in one go it's hard to guess accurately.
>>14362328
Everyone in IBO save a few people sucked donkey balls at piloting, and better yet every one of them but Gali Gali and Ein were on Tekkadan's side for the most part. And Gali Gali / Ein were only mid tier anyways.
>>14362770
Times change anon.
>>14362095
>That drop between episodes 12 and 19
I think that's when everyone was in agreement the space arc was going on for way to long.
The only thing I really care about for Season 2 is whether they'll finally cash in on all that sexual tension...
>>14362161
This episode was certainly one of the better looking ones.
>>14362740
Dude, by the time they got to Dort the average was already lower than AGE's. The Japanese were constantly making fun of IBO over this fact, along with how late night anime were pulling in higher numbers. Not to mention how more people tuned in to G-Reco's finale than IBO's. FFS, the ratings jumped after the credits rolled and Yugioh started.
The show had low ratings.
>>14363378
MILF-plot soon?
>>14363490
Never,anon.
He will toil and work hard his family.
No time for love making.
>>14361749
>wild ride
How the hell was Season 1 a "wild ride" it was boring and anti-climactic as fuck
>>14363110
>Fumitan
She didn't even have personality or character
>>14361522
>more IBO
>>14361522
Yes.
>>14361522
No but since that's the only anime I can watch this year I'll watch it. Still a piece of trash tho.
>>14363563
>Consciously watching stuff you hate
Why?
>>14363568
How else can he complain about it on /m/?
>>14363314
It had a good slot so sometimes it could get viewers just stopping by
>>14363572
This. If you're going to care enough about a show to shitpost about it on /m/, you ought to at least do your due diligence and watch the whole thing. Otherwise you're just bitching about a couple eps you saw and regurgitating what everyone else said about the rest.
>>14363514
>>14363615
>Otherwise you're just bitching about a couple eps you saw and regurgitating what everyone else said about the rest.
To be fair, that IS how the majority of /m/ does it these days.
It actually gets pretty easy to detect after a while just for the amount of misinformation that gets accepted as fact through repeated regurgitation.
>>14361529
>TL Note: Had it not been for the laws of this land, I would have slaughtered you
>>14363563
>Watching shows just so you can shitpost about it
This is why this board to hell in the past few years.
>>14363664
Pretty much. Most people if they don't like a show they just move on, period. Not dwell on it, not go on and on about a show they didn't even watch. It only marginally makes some sense here because it's a popular franchise people were let down by yet again.
>>14363694
I stopped caring about Gundam shows ever since AGE.
Now I just buy the Gunpla and maybe watch a episode or two if a particular kit does something cool in it.
And due to the Gunpla IBO is one of my favorites even though I only watch ep 1, 7 and 24.
>>14363509
He can make a second family with Merribit.
>>14363514
She had hips tho.
>>14362292
Wait, did they animate both right arms grabbing it, but they it's both normal arms grabbing it in the next shot? The fuck?
>>14363759
>>14364003
If you mean did it grab with two right arms at the start, including one hidden right arm, but then show it holding it with it's two normal hands when we see it before uncurling the hidden arms - then no. And I've no idea how you came to that conclusion either.
>>14363327
Keep in mind, every last orphan has the Alotta Vagina system which lets them dodge like a Newtype, of course the non-Vaginas are going to suck.
>>14361522
Yes, quite.
Thunderbolt didn't really grab me. I finally downloaded 3 and 4 today, I'll probably watch them this weekend. Likewise, almost no interest in the Unicorn re-format, since it's just the same series chopped into smaller bits.
Interested to see what effect Macgillis will have on Gjallarhorn, how McMurder will show his true colors, and very anxious to see how they handle Cookie and Cracker. I just KNOW that's going to be a tear-jerker scene.
Also kind of curious if they'll wind up in Mika's harem or Turbo Nazi's.
>>14365473
Four months is such a long-ass time to wait.
>>14363514
>tfw Fumitan twin sister show upin IBO s2
>>14363526
Chances Gali Gali alive?
>>14363755
Hey wait a minute
>>14365825
>P-Bandai Online Hobby Shop Exclusive HG Graze Fumitan and HG Graze Gali
>>14365825
There are chances Gali isn’t death yet, it wasn’t all that explicit, but it would be a huge mistake of Choco and kind of idiotic if he didn’t ensure his death, but everything could happen
>>14365825
>>14365874
Normally I would say he's dead but after Lafter anything goes.
>>14363526
>>14362389
I've been waiting for the orga/berry /ss/, MAKE IT HAPPEN.
>>14363378
I NEED MY MERRY BERRY /SS/ DAMMIT
>>14363160
And here's the kicker, more people tuned in to watch G-Reco's finale in the middle of the night than IBO's on a Sunday evening.
And then there's comparing the DVD/BD sales between the two. Did you know G-Reco sold more Vol 5's than IBO?
>>14369302
>revives some dead thread just to stir shit up
Gotta love neo-/m/.
>>14362095
Funfact about IBO's ratings.
They don't include online streaming services, which IBO is known for being one of the most popular streamed anime in Japan.
>>14362095
>>14369302
I'm tempted to booru these for future records
>>14369302
Did you know the first four volumes sold more than G-Reco? Saying one volume sold less is kind of toothless when several sold more. G-Reco is a better show, but that doesn't mean cherry picking sales is going to hide the rest of them, make G-Reco more popular or make IBO disappear.
>>14362257
This anon speaks the truth
>>14369318
Right, because old /m/ doesn't stir old shit up. That's why Seed Destiny is no longer being discussed since it aired.
>>14369325
>, which IBO is known for being one of the most popular streamed anime in Japan.
Cool horseshit bro
>>14369339
>Did you know the first four volumes sold more than G-Reco?
Who cares? Especially when the first volume was solicited with a promo code and half off
>>14369479
Who cares that G-Reco's fifth volume sold more? Especially when volumes 2, 3 & 4 had no promo code. You do apparently, cause you're talking about it. Just accept the numbers as meaningless, like whichever show you like and move on. Quoting numbers isn't going to change anyone's mind or make you feel better.
>>14361522
Yes but mainly because i'am almost 100% sure there will be a timeskip and because i want to see Mika and Atra together
>>14369469
>dead thread
>dead series
>>14369528
>>14369318
/m/ is a slow board. If you consider this as reviving a dead thread, you should just go back to /a/.
Oh, and take your neo bullshit back with you.
>>14361522
I don't have much hope left. S1 was castrated, S2 will probably follow suit.
There were flaws in S1 but yeah I'm excited for S2.
>>14365379
Doesn't matter, I was talking about effective piloting skills, not raw talent or honed effort. If we go by retarded semantics, then the kids have the huge disadvantage of not having piloted for years under very luxurious conditions like Choco Man and Gali Gali, etc etc.
You can't even begin to analyze shit if we start taking apart what is 'real skill' and what is 'artificial'. And even if you did, all that would do is tell you who had the most natural talent, a meaningless endeavor.
It's just a fact that Gjallarhorn had nothing but numbers on their side. Basically all the kills racked up come from non mobile suit combat.
>>14361522
No way an S2 will be better than S1. It's only bound to get shittier.
Looking forward to /m/ shitposting the series to death.
>>14362399
On the first episode on Kudelia's speech we are shown child prostitutes. Atra's early life she was abandoned in a brothel and had to be bitches errand girl and bullied before she ran away. Eugene and Norba got rid of their virginity with prostitutes.
>>14361522
I'm going to watch it but it will probably be shit. Hopefully not unwatchable shit like G-Reco or Age though.
>>14363379
>Impressed by an episode filled with handdrawn and CGI in the same frame
I'm not disagreeing with you, anon, but many /m/en would.
>>14380289
Those were watchable unlike IBO
>>14362412
They're not going to move it to a late night slot, not when they're actually trying to market it towards kits. Chances are, it's going to continue being try-hard edgy while trying to pass itself off as a gritty underdog story.
Still, it's going to be interesting to see how it does ratings and video sales-wise. Wonder what they're going to do for a S2Vol 1 promo?
>>14380329
He never said it was good, he said it was one of the better ones.
>>14380425
G-Reco is easily one of Tomino's worst works up there with Brain Powered, and Gen 3 age is probably one of the worst Gundams of all time.
I know countless people that dropped both while they were airing. IBO at it's worst is inoffensively mediocre.
>>14380622
>G-Reco is easily one of Tomino's worst works up there with Brain Powered,
Found the retard
>>14380622
Ironically enough is that both of those shows garnered more discussion than IBO while there were airing so it means that more people dropped IV=BO. So much for "inoffensively mediocre"
>>14380632
Mirror
>>14380645
This.
The shitpost generals we had back when G-Reco was airing were tons of fun.
>>14380645
The main thing with IBO is that nothing ever happened, there wasnt anything to discuss at all.
Thats it, there was nothing to discuss
it wasnt terrible, it wasnt great, it was just flat out boring. A few goodlooking poses here and there, too few mecha fights, animation was wonky as hell and the characters never developed.
it was boring, That is what makes IBO unique. its flat out boring.
AGE was a trainwreck
G-Reco had weekly desiphers of Tomino's dialogue which was pretty hilarious, not to mention the animals popping up all the time.
IBO had nothing.
>>14380645
And Batman v. Superman garners more discussion than Captain America: Civil War.
Quality or popularity has nothing to do with traffic.
In fact it's often quite the opposite.
Hell, I'll give you an anime example. Kekkai Sensen.
Basically came and went, had midlevel discussions at best, sold well and isn't really discussed anymore.
When nobody has anything bad to say about it and the trolling potential is low, discussions die down quickly.
>>14381003
I've actually seen more civil war discussion, but sure anon.
>>14381003
>And Batman v. Superman garners more discussion than Captain America: Civil War.
Maybe on /tv/ but most people would rather not discuss it
>>14381003
Yeah except KS was good IBO was not. It didn't get a lot of discussion due to the delay of the last episode while IBO was just flat out boring
>>14381034
>>14381062
Fucking where? All I ever hear about Civil War is "It wasn't great.", where as people constantly ramble on about LOL MARTHA.
>>14381105
>All I ever hear about Civil War is "It wasn't great."
Yeah from /tv/
>>14381105
People enjoyed Civil War, and even now theres still guys going team cap and team iron man, also keep in mind Civil War also tied in with fucking Marvel Heroes which gave it some discussion there too.
>>14380622
G-Reco is Tomino's worst Gundam, period. It was not only boring but terrible and the characters were so one dimensional. As much as I disliked the first half of ZZ at least the characters were good.
>>14381115
>G-Reco is Tomino's worst Gundam, period
I love this meme
>>14381122
I love the 'I love this meme' meme, it's so easy to spot the retard.
>season 2 of the most boring, inoffensive series in the franchise
Oh boy
>>14381134
>it's so easy to spot the retard.
Found the retard
IBO is kinda like SEED. On the surface, it doesn't look all that bad. Sure, there are a few weak patches here and there but in the end the show doesn't appear to have any fatal weaknesses.
And, somewhere along the way, it picked up a devoted fanbase who are declaring it one of the best Gundams ever.
However, it's only when you look at the show closely that everything starts falling apart. You begin to see the flaws in it, like how the show is padded with fluff to compensate for having a weak plot. Or how the politics are fanfiction-tier, with Tekkadan being massively OP and things magically going their way.
You begin to see that, but the problem is it's fans don't. They're going to take it more or less at face value. Then they begin making excuses. "The fluff is great." "It's just an anime, who cares if the politics are bullshit?" "You're cherrypicking the animation. It's fine." "It's morally ambiguous." Or they become hostile assholes, accusing people of making shit up. They only want to hear praise for their new favorite show, only they don't have their own version of "go back to A/Z".
That is the problem with discussing IBO.
>>14363481
ffs. Just because an anime doesn't jump through hoops to show the main cast as entirely morally righteous and the MC isn't crying at the thought of killing another human being, japan thinks it's too extreme. I loved the way IBO told its story and didn't try to back down or soften the hardships of war and getting your hands dirty in the process of it.
>>14381280
No, they think it's too extreme because of how the characters do terrible things by real-world standards but it's portrayed as completely alright. Case in point, the show not showing that terrorists were doing something bad and instead saying they did nothing wrong while trying to make the audience sympathize with them. Tekkadan aren't afraid to get their hands dirty but they don't suffer consequences for their actions.
>>14381203
Anon, every single Gundam (and 99% of anime in general) have fanfic tier politics.
>>14373642
I know that. But havig a named character as a prostitute or used to be one would give it a character with a tragic past. from being a whore to survive to being passed around like a fucktoy as a human debris. Is it too dark?
Also one thing I noticed is Shino still sucks at MS combat. He gets manhandled by Ein in all encounters . Nearly walks into a trap planted by Orga. He needs to improve next season
>>14381319
Because IBO isnt our society. It is 1920 mindset of corporate towns. Brutal colonial exploitation that makes preivous gundam stories about colonial indepedence look like an enlightened revolution and a clearly corrupt security force who forms false toothless uprisings to crush them
>>14371489
>IBO
>actually showing something interesting and unique
Pick one.
>>14381082
It never got a lot of discussion. Ever.
People were like regularly like: "Hey, what gives? Don't you like Kekkai Sensen?"
And the answer was usually that there was nothing to talk about. No real complaints and due to its episodic nature not a lot of sperging about the story.
The more universally accepted a show is, the less heated and passionate the discussion usually gets.
IBO is a different beast. Because from the start people were going "Look at the lack of discussion on our rinky dink imageboard! Clearly that means its flopping!" Nobody got that fucking passionate about it, apart from the G-Reco shitposters who for some reason think that the only way to vindicate themselves is to shit on non-Tomino Gundam shows. And truth be told, people were tired of engaging them and still are.
While I think IBO was decent, it wasn't worth getting worked up about one way or another.
But for the record, I liked the fun posting, because nobody took the show that seriously.
>>14381203
SEED was hilarious when it was offensive though. IBO was just putrid all the way.
>>14382605
>It never got a lot of discussion. Ever.
It did. It was just not accessible to casuals nor was it shitposting material.
>Because from the start people were going "Look at the lack of discussion on our rinky dink imageboard!
It wasn't get much discussion outside of /m/ either so I failed to see your point. It was just funny to point out that the show many claimed "saved Gundam" garnered the least amount of discussion.
>The more universally accepted a show is, the less heated and passionate the discussion usually gets.
GBF says hi! People loved that show to the point where we made a fucking mural saying thanks to the staff who worked on it. People just didn't give a shit about IBO and every time it gets popped up its usually "I stopped watching after the first few episode" or "that show was boring as fuck"
>apart from the G-Reco shitposters who for some reason think that the only way to vindicate themselves is to shit on non-Tomino Gundam shows.
I think G-Reco is going to be the go to anytime a show someone likes doesn't get any attention.
>>14383058
I think G-Reco earned a horrible reputation specifically because of people like you.
>>14381082
Actually it did. KS was just not easily accessible for casuals and didn't have the same type of hype as say...Shougeki no Souma had the same season yet it managed to sell better.
>The more universally accepted a show is, the less heated and passionate the discussion usually gets.
That is just flat out untrue. There are terrible shows that don't get any discussion and for good reason too (M3, Captain Earth, Argvellon) except for a few diehards who claims that the show gets better.
>We will never have an IBO thread without butthurt G-Recucks
>>14381203
>And, somewhere along the way, it picked up a devoted fanbase who are declaring it one of the best Gundams ever.
Anon, don't go full autism. Only newfags or people who have only watched Wing and IBO think that. This is like an adult lashing out at a teen girl because she thinks Twilight is a masterpiece. They don't know any better, you do. Let them have their fun, someday they will grow up and realize they were wrong.
>>14383915
Try again in ~10 years.
>>14383073
It is just mentally ill people quite possibly posting both sides themselves on different devices. Every board is afflicted by this. /o/ is literally 100% this, as of course are all of the larger toilet boards like /v/. I imagine as I get more versed in /m/ and start reading Getter threads/etc I'll get sick of this board and move on again.
>>14362770
Thing is, though, Setsuna murdering his parents isn't portrayed as The Right Thing To Do. All the shit Mika pulls is.
>>14381203
I kinda feel like IBO is the Fate/Zero of the franchise.
>>14363721
That's because 24 is a good episode. It's such a damn shame Gundam wasted the man-machine interface on shit like IBO, because the Graze Ein was amazing. Ein's body just sitting there, mute and still while you see the Graze gesturing and screaming, that was a fucking awesome moment that really shows the horror of what's going on, as well as the power of the true aligned vagina system through him wrecking shit. But then of course 25 ruins it.
>>14388849
Fucking this. It's surprising that people think they're comparable. Setsuna's time as a child soldier fucked him up and is supposed to be a bad thing. It destroyed his faith in the god he believed in, and haunts him years later.
Mika doesn't give a fuck and will do whatever he needs to get what he/Orga wants.
>>14388972
I wouldn't say they're comparable situations either, but Mika killing his bosses wasn't supposed to be seen as a good thing in my opinion, just a, from his point of view (or Orgas, whatever), necessary one. The show misstepped by making CGS adults (outside that one mechanic with the weird beard) such caricatures and so rancidly evil though, since it made his actions completely justifiable and even right in many eyes. Oh well, they made a lot of other mistakes too, that was just the first (that I can think of at least).
>>14388972
Right? Same shit with the suicide charge of the little kids, or, as the PTA apparently pointed out, the Dort thing. With the first it's worse because Merribit and Old Black Dude go "this shit ain't right" and the kids respond "fuck you adults I'mma senselessly throw away my life for maybe getting Martian independence".
And the feeling I got was that you're just supposed to nod along with the kids and go "yeah, they're sure Doing The Right Thing", which was underscored by the fact the heroic-sounding theme kept playing.
>>14389006
>"fuck you adults I'mma senselessly throw away my life for maybe getting Martian independence".
They weren't fighting for Martian independence though. They were just trying to complete their job, get paid, and get revenge on Gjallarhorn over Biscuit. That last one being what drove them over the edge. Then the show treats them like acting like they're normal kids as a happy ending. Not that they are normal kids, them acting like they're normal kids.
>>14361529
Is just me or 2ch gundamfags are the most hard to please people on the universe.
>>14392471
>Is just me or are gundamfags the most hard to please people on the universe.
Fixed
>>14393873
>>14392471
IBO is pretty shit with or without the Gundam name attached.
