>Gundam 0079
>Zeta
>ZZ
>CCA
These are the only must-see Gundam series, right?
ZZ can get out.
You can skip that shit completely
Unicorn is pretty good for the mech porn if nothing else
>>14318655
Except for ZZ, they are regarded as the most pivotal of the UC timeline as they pertain to Amuro and Char.
>>14318663
If you are going to include mecha porn as a merit, then you need to add 0080 and 0083 to the list as well.
>>14318655
You can skip CCA and ZZ, they're pretty bad.
Zeta is pretty shit as well, but you can watch it if you want, but it's not a must watch.
The only must-see Gundam series is 0079
>>14318655
0079 is the only must see Gundam series.
Zeta and CCA are very good but not for everyone. Watch them at your own discretion.
ZZ is average.
>>14318655
Watch all of them you fuck
It's not like you have anything more meaningful to do with your life
>>14318655
That's the Gundam yes. The rest are either small side stories, or soulless reimaginings
>>14318655
I'd say so but I agree with this anon >>14318679
Don't be a pussy, watch them all and form your own opinion.
Eh, not really, but a good place to start OP.
>>14318655
>Gundam 0079
>Zeta
>ZZ
>CCA
These are the only must-see Gundam series, right?
No they're not.
Gundam film trilogy + CCA. This is enough
>>14318655
Like the best, or most essential? Yes to the second. ZZ just happens to be god awful, but many AU series has taken its place as worst Gundam series.
>>14318655
if you're going for your Gundam certification, yes
if you're watching a robot cartoon to see robot fights, no
>>14318756
>watching the film trilogy instead of the series
This is the shittiest meme on /m/ and should stop
You are all forgetting something
>>14318778
If you haven't seen most Gundam, all you're basically doing is watching Beyblade.
>>14318655
08th MS Team is badass because of pic related, and 0083: Stardust Memory has the best intro and animation/art style. The latter also has Feddies getting their stupid asses nuked by a weapon they designed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvZ0BIDekmg
>>14318756
>Gundam film trilogy + CCA. This is enough
>>14318655
Literally everything UC related. Don't bother with anything else.
>>14318969
This, except watch G Gundam too
>>14318756
>Gundam film trilogy + CCA. This is enough
That's the worst thing I have ever heard
The only must see are 79, War in the pocket and G Gundam.
There are other good one though.
>>14318655
>ZZ
Wrong.
Also, SEED and 00 should be there as well. SEED just so you can properly shitpost about it.
>>14318976
We're on /m/, what did you expect from people here?
>>14318655
I feel like despite it's third-act asspull love triangle, 0083 does a lot to establish the federation we see from then on. Military-run, corrupt in a lot of higher echelons, and a little too brutal in it's suppression of Spacenoids for fear of another OYW.
Having recently gone directly from 0079 to Zeta (re-watching in release order) it's a little odd to just accept the Titans as-is without any explanation beyond "lol fuck spacenoids"
>>14318986
worthless post
>>14318992
>a little too brutal in it's suppression of Spacenoids for fear of another OYW.
But that's exactly what Jamitov wants. He's trying to exacerbate the situation and cause a war on earth that will lead to man abandoning it. His overly harsh methods serve two purposes:
1. By encouraging brutal and loathsome behavior in the Titans, he will cause public opinion to sway in favor of harshly oppressed spacenoids.
2. He's seeing to it that the staunchest anti-spacenoid bigots will mostly all be killed because they'll be the front line in the war he wants to incite.
Scirocco lays all of this out in the latter half of Zeta. It's kind of a short infodump conversation with Jerid and Reccoa (iirc) so if you went to the fridge for a soda at the wrong time you could easily have missed it.
>>14318974
I'd say to watch all AU until Turn A
>>14318992
I'll never get why people say Zeta should always be watched before 0083. Release order, sure, but it adds nothing.
>>14319045
>until Turn A
Good phrasing, I agree.
>>14318655
Nope.
You should watch them all. ESPECIALLY the ones I didn't like.
Because if you don't, you'll just be another ignorant shitposter repeating "____ is bad" without ever even watching it just because some jackass on /m/ told you so.
Why would you settle for letting some jackass on /m/ tell you what to think instead of actually seeing the shows for yourself?
>>14319060
Because this is 4chan. We're just as much of an echo-chamber hugbox as any other anime or internet community. The difference being that our circlejerking is largely negative, and a direct reaction to what's popular on or in other sites and communities.
>ctrl+f "Victory"
>Phrase not found
Ban everyone in this thread.
>>14319090
It's my favourite one and in my opinion the best Tomino Gundam series along with 0079, but I wouldn't call it a must-see because not everyone will get it, or even appreciate a lot of the little things Tomino put into it. It's not accessible as 0079 and it's not as simple to understand everything that's going on with the plot or the characters like Zeta or ZZ.
>>14319101
>not as simple to understand
Why? Because it does beleaguer you with the whole Zanscare exposition right out of the gate?
>>14319101
>It's not accessible as 0079
Bullshit.
You could watch Victory Gundam with no knowledge of early UC whatsoever, because nothing in early UC carries over to Victory except the existence of colonies (which predated Mobile Suit Gundam) and the existence of Mobile Suits (which also predated Mobile Suit Gundam).
>>14319126
He might've meant in the "ease of access" sense.
Which really has nothing to do with if it's essential or not.
>>14319107
Because of lots of plot points and character details are only mentioned once or very briefly in conversations that aren't obviously set up as exposition scenes, so the average /m/ browser and anime viewer will miss it on account of there not being any prompts to make them pay attention. Given that this entire board suffers from severely bad reading and viewing comprehension, as shown by the very limited understanding people here have of Char's entire character arc and the entirety of Unicorn, it's just not something I would recommend.
>>14319126
That's not what I meant by accessible, but your post is the perfect example of what I meant by people here having incredibly poor reading comprehension.
>>14319136
>He might've meant in the "ease of access" sense.
That's what "accessible" means, anon. And it's what I addressed. Victory is just as accessible to the uninitiated as Mobile Suit Gundam was.
Unless you're thinking of some more esoteric meaning of "ease of access", in which case you should elaborate.
>>14319152
Are you going to pretend that Victory is somehow obtuse or hard to follow? Because it isn't.
You might make an argument about the true reason behind Katejina going all SUPERBITCH being behind-the-scenes drama with Tomino and Banrise, but not knowing that doesn't make the plot any harder to follow.
>>14319057
>but it adds nothing
Just seeing those Feddie soldiers at the end donning Titans uniforms with dem big smiles on their faces is worth the time and effort.
No G-Reco?
>>14319204
Oh, yes. And G-Reco is shit but not because you couldn't understand it.
>>14319238
I understood what was going on just fine.
It's just that I thought the premise of a religion based on a freight elevator was more retarded than Raraiya huffing air from Shangrila.
Not that it will help for me to say that, because the GRIDF will insist that i didn't understand it just because there's really no reasonable way to defend the concept of an elevator having its own Pope so it's the only defense they can muster.
>>14319290
>there's really no reasonable way to defend the concept of an elevator having its own Pope
If you can only care about things like that I'd be more surprised if you can understand anything at all. Are you literally autistic?
>>14319290
SU-Cordism makes more sense than modern religion.
Prove me wrong.
PROTIP:You can't
>>14319333
Wow.
Exactly as I predicted.
I must be a newtype.
>>14318655
If you're going to watch CCA watch gundam evolve OVA 5 after.
>>14319290
>>14319343
Wait, that's what SU-Cordism is? I've just gotten around to watching G-Reco, so I'm on ep 9. I knew people mentioned the cargo cult thing around here, but I didn't think it was THAT literal.
>>14318655
For me I only really liked First Gundam and MS08, those are classics anyone should have seen.
>>14318655
all Tomino Gundam and the first 3 OVAs
>>14319473
Yeah, it's that literal.
SU-Cord is an abbreviation for Space Umbilical Cord (the Captal Tower orbital elevator). And there's a church, with a pope, people afraid of violating taboos because they'll be cursed, and people yelling SU-CORD as an expletive.
The Adeskan ruins were more believable, because the Adeskans had no idea what those things actually were. Their belief was a corruption/exaggeration of actual events that are beyond their understanding. The sequence of events involved in constructing the Capital Tower elevator is common knowledge in a high-school level course for the Capital Guard, so it's completely absurd for people in that group to actually be superstitious about an elevator.
>>14319422
Let me put it this way:
What part of SU-Cordism bothers you in context of the show. Do you understand the concepts of premise and setting?
There are real religions based on dumber things.
In the first place why should there be a church in the middle of Rome that is actually its own country and has its own Pope? Isn't it stupid?
And it's not like the story is actually about SU-Cordism. You can't enjoy stuff because you are bothered by minor details of the setting that you randomly decided make no sense?
>>14319552
Let me put it this way:
I don't care if you liked something I didn't. I don't have to prove my opinion to you, and I don't care to hear you try and prove yours to me. My opinion of the show came from my watching the show. You don't get a vote in what my opinion is.
Fuck off.
>>14319519
Wait. Do you actually believe they worship the tower or something like that?
>>14319607
Did you even watch the show?
>>14319628
I am not autistic so I don't remember any detail for something that is largely irrelevant.
But the tower is just symbolic. It's a strategically and economically important point. I don't remember anyone claiming that it's in any way mystical or magical. The point of the whole religion is to scare people away from using dangerous technology that can lead to mass destruction.
>>14318655
But you forgot 0080
>>14319602
And let me put it like this:
You are a fucking idiot or didn't get the show and therefore your opinion isn't worth shit. Now get in the back of the line with the others idiots who didn't get G-Reco alongside ANN, MAL, reddit and Otaking.
>>14319664
>they have a POPE
>they talk about FAITH
>they talk about CURSES
but some anon on the /m/ who's never even met a single member of the show's staff says it's not a religion because he doesn't remember it.
Looks like you win again, Anonymous.
>>14319742
It IS a religion. But they just don't worship the elevator. Are you stupid?
>>14319675
>You are a fucking idiot or didn't get the show and therefore your opinion isn't worth shit
Wow. What an amazingly original and completely compelling diatribe on the value of the show's narrative. All you have to do is assert that anyone who doesn't agree with you isn't entitled to an opinion and then you can tell yourself you won.
Just like every G-Reco thread ever.
>>14319751
>It IS a religion
Okay, so you agree with me.
>they just don't worship the elevator
But it's Holy Ground. Literally referred to as "Holy Ground" in the show.
>Are you stupid?
Stupid enough to keep replying to you, I guess.
But this is getting boring because I've already read this thread in every *other* G-Reco thread so I'm going to go do something more entertaining now.
Have a nice day.
>>14319742
Are you actually illiterate?
You couldn't even read that post correctly.
>>14318655
Don't watch G-Reco unless you hate yourself
>>14319779
The Vatican is also a Holy Ground. It's where the fucking Pope lives. Is the Vatican magical?
>>14319238
>>14319290
>>14319422
>>14319602
>>14319628
>>14319742
>>14319764
>>14319779
>>14319801
>>14319816
I mean, it might be
>>14319155
No, I was agreeing with you. I'm >>14319136 btw.
I really don't think (re:>>14319152) that whether the average viewer can pick up on minutia should have a bearing on its "essential" status. Animation is pretty darn good, and its got some of Tomino's best directing.
I haven't seen Reco yet. I actually bailed to go hike a small mountain. Kinda sucks what this thread turned into.
I think you and I probably think fairly similarly based on your posts.
>>14319816
No one in the show thinks the elevator itself is magical. It's run by minovsky fields, everyone knows this.
THAT is precisely why the fact that there is a religion with a pope and elevator-related taboos that invoke curses makes no sense.
>>14320149
How are the taboos elevator-related?
>>14320159
certain parts of the elevator are holy grounds or some shit
/m/ was a mistake
>>14320149
The curse isn't just "don't touch this wire or X could break and we'd ALL BE FUCKED", it's also "don't try to understand this shit beyond what we tell you because then you'll try to advance technology and then we'd ALL BE FUCKED".
>>14318969
This, AUs aren't worth the time. Also the late UC stuff might as well be an AU.
If it's before UC0100 it's probably worth a look.
G
Turn Gay
War in pocket
>>14320739
>AU
Found the oldtype.
>>14320739
Excellent memeing, troper!
>>14318655
Add Unicorn and then yeah that's the essentials. Say what you like about Unicorn but it's a much more satisfying conclusion to early UC than CCA, which will leave you feeling pretty bitter.
>>14321119
What is the connection between this idol and Doritos?
>believing the "any Gundam is good" meme
>>14321144
Why do you need hope?
Original is the only must watch. All of UC is pretty good though.
X is alright, like UC but more generic. Turn A seemed great, I need to get back to it. G-reco is pretty lush, great designs and a fresh take while remaining rooted in UC Gundam tropes. 00 is enjoyable, but aspects of season 2 and the movie in particular ruin it with bullshit pacifism.
>>14321526
CCA left me feeling bitter because it was an awful movie, not because I needed hope.
>>14321383
>falling for "Gundam is bad, oh I'm so contrarian and edgy, my taste in toy commercials is so patrician" meme
>>14321567
Your soul is just too weighed down by gravity
>>14321526
>Why do you need hope?
Unicorn's ending is bittersweet at best because we already know that F91 happens next.
A bright and hopeful future full of flying spinning blades of death.
>>14318655
You really don't have to watch ZZ. I'm not argue bad/good or anything to do with canon, I'm just saying that it's really just its own show because it just shoves aside the old cast to make way for the new one.
Zeta on the other hand is definitely a must watch. Ignoring opinions on it's quality, the show set the gundam formula. So if you're watching the franchise to see how it evolved then that absolutely has to be on your list.
0079 is must watch for any anime fan.
>>14318655
Must see:
0079
0080
Zeta
CCA
woth watching:
Victory
Origin
08th MS Team
MS IGLOO (the 3d models are horrible, but the story is good)
After you see everything in this list you will feel the need for:
G-Reco
Unicorn
>>14318674
Maybe if everybody had the exact same opinions and taste as yours and didn't care to see the story progress any further? God, what a bleak and boring world that would be,
>>14318655
I like a lot of Gundam shows, a lot more than the hate brigade here on /m/ for sure, but the only must see is the first one. It is culturally significant, the others are not.
>>14321658
I don't know, I liked that as hopeful as the ending seems that Mineva and Banagher get BTFO. The scene where Mineva hears Full Frontal's plan and chews him out for it not being crazy enough made her deserve it. Revealing the contents of the box WAS a stupid, stupid move, because nobody is going to accept a Newtype-run government.
>>14325789
You missed the dynamic of that scene almost completely.
She was telling him off while also calling him a glib facsimile.
>>14321694
Yeah, ZZ only resolves all of the plot threads left hanging at the end of Zeta, it isn't important at all.
>>14318756
The movie timeline is the definitive version of UC Gundam.
So you need the MSG Trilogy > Zeta: A New Translation > CCA if you want to get the essential Gundam.
Everything except for ZZ and Unicorn. And Thunderbolt and Origin (Which are separate timelines) fit into the Movie timeline as well.
>>14326139
>it's a Nigger Knight trolls people with half truths post
hey FUCK YOU I freaking LOVE CCA
100% serious here
>>14318995
>Nothing added to the discussion.
>>14326166
(You)
>>14326096
Yeah, because Kamille and Fa were so integral to the plot of ZZ.
Their resolution is so half assed that it really doesn't wrap things up for the characters.
The Titans were the main conflict and Zeta, and that was resolved by the end of it.
The only thing ZZ picks up on is Neo Zeon, but aside from Haman all of the organization's important members are introduced in ZZ.
And even Haman is a totally different character than she was in Zeta, now that she's suddenly lusting after teenage dick.
>>14318655
You can totally avoid ZZ and Zeta is pretty poor. The story does not really evolve in any way that really meshes well with the original series.
The original, or the original film trilogy > Read basic summary of zeta highlights > CCA will do just fine.
>>14326305
Zeta is a masterpiece though.
>>14326151
It's not trolling when it's true and makes a lot more sense that the 'All UC series take place in the same universe!' crowd
>>14326461
>It's not trolling when it's true and makes a lot more sense that the 'All UC series take place in the same universe!' crowd
huehuahuehuahue
>>14326461
>it's true
No it ain't
>>14326490
>>14326474
Prove me wrong
>>14326512
Prove yourself right :^)
>>14318655
>ZZ
>>14326139
While it is true Zeta uses the movie continuity, like how hayato has a guncannon in his hanger a new translation isn't really in continuity with anything.
>>14326421
lol
>>14328233
>>14326421
>>14326515
>Sunrise considers film, to be the canon telling
>Nothing in ANT contradicts CCA and ties up the biggest loose end left in the TV series
>Nothing in ANT contradicts F91 or Victory as well.
>It's impossible for Origin and Thunderbolt to co-exist in the Movie or TV timeline due to the contradictions.
>>14318655
Don't bother watching MSG. Read the far superior MSG the origin instead (don't watch the series if that until after reading it either)
>>14331068
>Sunrise considers film canon
Source?
>>14333004
>implying he has sources
Thunderbolt
Unicorn
War in the Pocket
>>14331068
>thunderbolt occurs during the Tomino novelizations of MSG
>>14333004
Mistranslation of an interview stating which MOBILE SUITS are "official" and "less official". But don't take my word for it, he'll post it in a second.
>>14318830
definitely 2 of the best gundam side series, also war in the pocket
>>14333004
a perfect machine translation
