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ITT: Characters that died in a hammy melodramatic way due to poor writing.
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Hi Abicion.
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>>14318537
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>>14318537
Any death in IBO that wasn't Savarin.
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Not so much his death itself, just the way that Roy Focker died is nonsensical.

>comes back after sortie where he got shot up
>instead of a hospital he goes on a date
>dies in gf's apartment
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>>14318551
>stains the fucking carpet
Unforgivable.
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>>14318551
>knows he's probably mortally wounded
>Choice A: Go to hospital wing and likely be put under anesthesia now knowing if you'll ever wake up from it again
>Choice B: Spend your last few moments guaranteed to be wtih the person you love

Sure it doesn't make too much logical sense but humans were never perfectly logical creatures. Emotion is usually pretty high in the decision making stack.
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>>14318551
Pretty much any death from Macross would fit this category
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>>14318614
>>knows he's probably mortally wounded
Bullshit

Unless Macrossverse's medical tech is garbage there's no way that was certainly a lethal wound. He literally walked out of his cockpit, walked all the way to his room to grab a guitar, walked to Claudia's room, and then waited for God knows how long for her to get there, and then he serenaded her. It's not like he was far from help either.
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Four was a dumb, pointless character in general.
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>>14320999
DUDE WHO GIVES A SHIT
She's a lovely New Wave diva with a flawless fashion sense.
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>>14319054

He even got changed
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>>14318964
How was Guld gonna beat the Ghosts without going FAST?
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>>14321009
>lovely
>diva
>flawless fashion sense
>DUDE WHO GIVES A SHIT

Literally as autistic as Four.
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Oliver and probably Marbet has the worst pointless deaths.

If you are going to banzai something at least aim for the command center.
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>>14321059
>Marbet

You what?
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While we're on the subject of Zeta, Katz also died like a useless mook.
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>>14321110
Just like he lived.
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>>14321112

And yet it's still probably not as bad as Chan Agi, who only dies because Not-Katz throws a fit and friendly fires on her for killing his not-girlfriend.
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>>14321128
The upcoming SRW is going to have both CCA and Hathaway's Flash.

I hope they find a way to shit on him hard without it being too on the nose.
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Cruz, Reporting.

> A little backstory for this one.

In the novel she spends half the penultimate book duking it out with Frontal/Sinanju of all people. What initially begins as an equal fight, quickly turns into a trouncing of her life.
Once her suit is properly dismembered and busted, FF moves in for the kill, but alas - she experiences an epiphany, that there are people out there who care about her and she absolutely refuses to die.

She parries what was supposed to be the finishing blow, and armed with just a beam saber, gets a second wind, ending in her actually MacGuyvering a resounding win - Sending Frontal running away for dear life in a half-melted, exploded husk of a Mobile Suit.

As she retreats back towards Nahel Argama, by chance she ends up just in the right place for her take a split-second decision to intercept and tank a shot for it, when Riddhe finally gets fed up with Mineva's bullshit and decides to introduce her to a business end of particle rifle for "Denying him".
And action she regrets happened, but is satisfied that it made a difference.

>Fast forward to the OVA.

Gone is the chain of CMOA's and she relapses back to her whore days, and just sits there and takes it - just like Madame taught her.
To prove a point, i guess?

LITERALLY WAT?
To this day i scratch my head at this shit - during the Initial run of the OVA - i was sure that Zeong is being introduced to prevent Frontal becoming a non-factor in the finale.
He put some fight in hand-to-hand - but once battle escalated to MS, he was ROFLstomped in seconds, due to Marida PWNing him earlier.
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>>14318537
>girard_spriggan_clumsy_ending
Actually, you know what, pretty much all the deaths in AGE were stupid fucking bullshit.

>>14319054
Keep in mind that Macrossverse's medical tech is still 2010 tech. Pretty sure Supervision Army space tech doesn't include healing mortal wounds.
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>>14321145
>mortal wound
>changed his clothes and traveled like a fucking mile on his own
The only thing mortal was his stupidity.
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>previous MC
>He alone has keep a resistance force up for years
>dies out of nowhere,
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>>14321138
I didn't actually know how she died in the novel version.

Wow. Is there anyone whose character the OVA didn't ruin?
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>>14321153
It'll happen all over again, since this director is doing RE as well.
https://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=creator&creatorid=1410
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>>14318964

both of kakizakis deaths are satisfying.
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>>14321138
The novel makes her out to be a complete fucking sue
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Pretty much every death in Ideon. Special note to the woman Cosmo tore in fucking half.
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>>14321071
She didn't even die.

Lupe on the other hand.
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>>14321171
Even had the director changed, i sincerely doubt that Sunrise would actually spare them an adequate amount of money - to allow redoing of significant amounts of OVA 7 material.

The RE is a cheap re-cut with minor and i MEAN MINOR changes.
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>>14321128

Chan deserved better.
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>>14321150
That's just the way things work in AC4's dystopia world.
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Do anime writers have a very warped sense of honor or is "samurai code" just a big load of BS?
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>>14321150

if you side with him he gets shot down but lives
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>>14321145
Even the whole Yurin death was pure stupidity. If you don't want your boyfriend to die, join us and get into this mobile suit so we can use it to kill your boyfriend.
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>>14321304
Considering some samurai would do stuff like ambush and kill random vagrants to test their new swords, probably the latter.
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>>14321372

Really? Do you have a source on that? Not to be a jerk, I'm actually really interested in what you're saying.
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This guy right here, though it requires a little context to understand, as the actual execution of his death was okay, if not the greatest.

The problem was that the CBF had held him at gunpoint several times before his actual death, with Sara swearing she'd kill him for like 3 minutes in each encounter, giving him ample time to escape every time, making both sides look incompetent. Also, by this point in the show, he was becoming less and less effective, and he was always hard to take seriously as a character from his very first appearance (with him saying nothing but about how he wanted to become a god and such; the man's voiced by Wakamoto), so by the time he actually did die, all I did was roll my eyes and feel relief that this plot point was over with.
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>>14321582

Him going out like a bitch was a pretty fitting punishment for one with dreams of grandeur
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>>14321815
I don't really care. The show made me lose all interest in him. Sara hesitated to pull the trigger too many times. The part where he died was like

>Seriously, they're doing this again?
>Oh, she actually shot this time. It's over. Good riddance.
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>>14318537
goddamn I want to kill those tits
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>>14321978
This bitch literally died when her tits were killed by the MC.
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>>14318539
Third post.
>YFW you rage so hard, you temporarily turn into Shinn.
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>>14321537

Not him but the whole reason why Kikuchiyo made that speech of "you samurai made them become like this" in Seven Samurai is because Kurosawa himself came from a samurai family and saw this as a way of apologizing for his ancestors.
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>>14318551
It really tied the room together.
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At least she's about to get some backstory this winter.
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Half the supporting cast of Victory

Not the villains, all the major villains are undone by their own fucked up plans, and all the minor ones are butchered by Uso

But the people like Oliver, Juca, etc

I get that the League Militaire is a terrorist organization fighting an encroaching imperial power, but they got a little crazy with the suicide bombings

It actually cheapens the final suicide bombing of the Reinforce
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>>14320999
But she was developed better than Lalah
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>>14323194
If Oliver was going to suicide bomb in such a poorly planned, ineffectual way, why did he have to do it in a V2 core, one of the most expensive pieces of equipment the league probably had access to?
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>>14321136
Hathaway's Flash will be units only and they never kill Chan in SRW anyway.
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>>14325439

Except that one time in SRW R if you willed it and then it got retcon'd out due to LOL HISTORY GOT CHANGED anyway
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>>14321372
>>14321537
It's called 辻斬り pronounced 'tsujigiri' which means crossroad killing, basically some Samurai when they got a brand new sword or had finished training some new technique/style. In their eagerness to test it out which just wait by a crossroad and randomly kill the next person who came by in the night.

You see it referenced in a lot of stuff. One really obvious one is if you ever played Pokemon there is the move Night Slash. The original name for that move is actually just 'Tsujigiri' in kana.
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Armageddon Musashi had a pretty dumb death.
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>>14325661
And in every detective manga, there's usually at least one case of Tsujigiri based crime.
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>>14323190
>Char, Amuro, Sayla and Lalah entangled in a battle
One of them wasn't going to come out of that alive.
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>>14326422
Maybe you're right.
I wonder what would change if Sayla or Amuro would have died then.
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>>14325998

I was thinking that myself, but I opted not to bring it up on account of the badass deaths Musashi usually gets.
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you know it.
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>>14321059

This is probably the biggest one i can think of

>better ram this priceless one of a kind core into a wheel lol

that extra v2 could have made a huge differece
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>>14326658
She just died.
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>>14321304
I'm just going to leave this here. It's page 127 of Mekton Zeta, the Japanese Anime Mecha RPG.

This is probably one of the best explanations of the Japanese Melodramatic Tradition and it goes a long way toward explaining why character deaths like this happen all the time.

Listen to Mike Pondsmith, for he speaks the truth.

With love, /tg/.
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>>14326914
Nah
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>>14326694
>one of a kind
Might want to rethink those words, anon
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>>14325998
>>14326649
>Be me watching Armageddon
>Scene happens
>Fly up
>you're in a jet
>FLY AWAY, STUPID
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>>14325368

Bigger explosions?
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>>14326914
>I'm just going to leave this here. It's page 127 of Mekton Zeta, the Japanese Anime Mecha RPG.

Is this the edition that uses "totally anime" as a descriptor?

Because if so

No fuck you
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>>14327055
But it's 100% anime.
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>>14327064
I should be cringing at this, but they got a good smile out of me by putting in "yatte yaruze".
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>>14318964
Guld and Kiryu both went out in cool sacrifice mode.
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>>14321059
Oh this, so much this.
>League Militia's losses:
>one pilot, husband and future father
>one out of two rare super core fighters whose factory is no more
>everyone's SAN

>Zanscare losses:
>a couple of hours to fix the dent he made on that city-leveling wheel
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>>14327114
To be fair, they needed the time.
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>>14321177
>someone finally gives Frontal the asskicking he sorely deserves
>'HURR WHAT A SUE'

Charfags, everyone.
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>>14323190
>backstory
She was an underaged whore in an Indian whorehouse, who had the misfortune of crossing paths with the Ped Comet. The end.
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>>14327165
That's the old one.
Origin 4 gives us a new one
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>>14327178
What, did she also steal the identity of her curiously identical-looking childhood friend?
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>>14327206
just like how they whitewashed loum being a nukefest, they made it so that someone was using lalah's newtype powers to aid them in gambling
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>>14327218
The heroic and not-genocidal-at-all Zeon to the rescue yet again?

Man, fuck new UC shit.
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>>14327227
You're acting like those butthurt slavs when they saw "Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter"
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>>14327227
Or like Ayn Rand reacted to "The Song of Russia".
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>>14327140
Is that Guts's brother? That whole episode was so fucking dumb I can't evem remember what he looked like.
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>>14327234
>>14327236
What, do they also whitewash shit to make a bunch of Nazis look good?
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>>14327269
Germans- yeah. Russians rape a nurse on the corpses of killed germans in the same hospital (and the town is not taken yet). Polish partisans are antisemitic scumbags, and the only people, who committed war crimes are SS-men.
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>>14321150
There's some side material thing where there's an interview of his operator and it's implied he survived and they're together, or something. Anyway, he most likely survived.
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>>14318537
Every death in MGS4. Vamp/Naomi's death scene is fucking cringe.
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>>14327156
>gets ripped apart and suddenly transforms into a shounen protag and tears him a new one using a floating piece of junk

It's pretty dumb.
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>>14327114
To be fair he expected a nuclear explosion to do more probably
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>>14327308

Naomi seemed only to die to mess with Otacon
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>>14327310
To be fair, Novel-Anon gave an abridged veesion.
Kshatriya was far less damaged after her fight with Unicorn in the books.

Also, Purustitute turned into a hot-blooded tykebomb back when they shoved her into Banshee's cockpit.
Her completing her face-heel turn later on, merely reinforced it.

Being powered by da powar of friendship was par for the course, if cliche.

Her rekting of Frontal was less related to shouting the loudest and more with her doing the opposite and starting fighting smart and well - dirty.

She abused his over confidence and cockyness and when she saw an opening - went for the jugular.
Stabbing at him with remote controlled, severed "wings" of Ksha', when he was busy sword fighting her.

Once the 1st one stabbed him in the back and nearly "Zeta'ed" him, exploded taking the main verniers with it - he was done. The 2nd destroyed his shield, and before he could react, the third tore it's arm and I think, leg off, wrecked most of the remaining thrusters and blown apart it's chest armor - if I remember correctly, it's been a while since I read moonrunes and BakaTsuki haven't translated up to his reappearance yet.
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>>14321110
The point of Katz's death was comedy.
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>>14318537
I miss it when age would callously kill off the cast and made me care. Irisdina could've lived but they decided to see the sky instead of going to the fucking doctor. Most of the deaths in IBO were pretty stupid too.
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>>14327491
That's still dumb. One of the biggest problem with the last novel is how easily Frontal goes down at least the manga gave him a new suit instead of sticking gim in a damaged Sinanju to get double teamed by Banshee and Unicorn.
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>>14327812
To be frank, the highlight was the fist/pipe/gun fight.
Author compared the one sided Mecha fight that followed to an "exorcism".

They made a pose, shot him simultaneously, and Banana vaporized him with his huge, supercharged beam saber - while proclaiming him " to have no soul"

The robo-rumble against him was never supposed to be a mecha highlight of the finale - that was simultaneous the Unicorn vs Banshee and Sinanju vs Kshatriya fights.
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>>14321138
>he was ROFLstomped in seconds, due to Marida PWNing him earlier.
What year is it?
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>>14327812
>someone takes down a char clone by exploiting his ego, playing smart, and being vicious
>b-b-but that's duuuuuumb
Fuck you, seriously. If you want Frontal to be an OP unkillable monster outside of Newtype h4x and UNDERSTANDING, just watch the damn OVAs.
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>>14327995
...EVEN SO..!
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>>14327859
It's the current year.
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>>14327304
Yeah, the nice thing about either the ORCA or Destruction path being the canon one is that it mean's Anatolia's Raven survived the shit and gets to live through the apocalypse with his waifu. Better fate than 95% of the cast, honestly.
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>>14327812
>at least the manga gave him a new suit
What did they give him?
That where ReBawoo comes in?
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>>14328828
No, he survives no matter what. The side material says that because he's such a shitty Lynx the WG getting BTFO didn't kill him via the AMS backflow like what happens with every other pilot, and as of just before ORCA's uprising they're in the process of building a new NEXT for him.
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>>14328887
Nah, ReBawoo was his suit before the Slevees got their hands on the Sinanju Stein and personalized it into the modded version we see.

The Charfag must have brainfarted due to being assblasted over his husbando humiliation, and confused the terms.

In both the OVA and the recently released Vol. 15 of the Manga he never meets Puru and they toss the Neo Zeong his way - no ReBawoo.
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>>14318537
Can we just once have one of these threads that doesn't degenerate into "they killed my waifu, therefore bad writing?"
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>>14327491
>Stabbing at him with remote controlled, severed "wings" of Ksha', when he was busy sword fighting her
Jesus fucking christ, why didn't we get this?
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>>14328903
Wasn't it because he was a normal piloting a Next through sheer bullshit?
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>>14330321
>implying Iris was anybody's waifu

But seriously, if you don't think Iris' death was stupid as all hell, then something is wrong with you.
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>>14326658
Everyone on her group and damn nearly everyone in the anime had absolutely brain dead deaths, special mention to that guy who was told not to stray otherwise he would die, he did precisely that and got shot for that reason, jesus fucking christ, its like Bellri drained the intelligency of everyone whenever he was in the same general area
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>>14330321
Anon that death was doubly stupid, instead of taking her to the hospital he just set her a nice view, then months later he becomes a omnicidal terrorist because she died and he blames everyone
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>>14330345
We can only guess.

But the Director clearly wanted an EPIC, animesque ending with SPACE MAGIC and a grand MS battle, and apparently didn't think that a melee final fight with a short mecha finisher would satisfy the viewers.

So they spared him getting injured and having his suit ruined by Puru, and even gave him Neo Zeong so he wouldn't get his ass comically gaped by Banana and Blue Balls combo.


Too bad that by elevating Frontal, they neutered some of the best parts of the final two books, like the aforementioned Kshatriya vs. Sinanju and Pic Related - which, I think was a great callback to the finale of MSG, but more savage, with 100% more steel pipes instead of faggy rapiers.


>Jesus fucking christ, why didn't we get this?

TL;DR: Charfaggotry
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>>14318537
Not really.
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>>14332247

Then you're an idiot.

Irisdina's death was avoidable...twice.
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>>14325330

A more refined, polished turd is still a turd.
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