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What comes after Schwarzenegger? I would not mind seeing some more pseudo independent series about past frontlines like schwarz did or perhaps even a series about the moon wars.
>>14305620
>the moon wars.
Was it even really a war? I understand it to be a one-sided slaughter, and it wasn't us doing the slaughtering, if you know what I mean.
>>14305639
As I understood, humans did cling on at least for a while, a year or so I think, before it was declared a lost cause.
>>14305620
she's missing her nice hat
>>14305701
Why do you think she's miffed?
>>14305620
It would be pretty interesting to see something dealing with the initial contact humanity had with the BETA and the development of TSFs.
Did you guys vote yet?
https://twitter.com/muvluvsf_staff/status/737961621167833090
Preregistration gacha on 6/15
>>14305620
>What comes after Schwarzenegger
Either Eurofront or Bernhard im Schatten.
>tfw original trilogy anime never
>>14306254
I'm honestly glad about that. There's no way an adaptation would do justice to the VNs because all the impact from Alternative relies heavily on the corny romcom SoL from Extra and I doubt many secondaries would put up with a whole season of romcom hijinks when they were expecting mecha action.
Besides, just imagine the amount of newfags it'd attract. There's plenty of people who backed the KS without having read the VNs before and we're about to experience all the shitposting we've seen over the years x100.
>Meiya, Marimo and Mitsuki's pillowcase designs has been reworked based on your feedback
they made them lewder
>mfw reading part when takeru tells sumika about all he went throughand tells her to leave him because she will forget him otherwiseand trying to hold my shit together
fucking japs... I didn't even cried when my parents died..MARIMO-CHAAN
>>14306285
Maybe for you but i think Alternative can stand fine on its own.
>>14305785
Could the perhaps be any potential in a story about the hive that landed i Canada?
>>14305620
Marimo a best.
>>14307494
Oh boy, hang on for what is comingShirogane-kun
>>14307494
Get those tears ready anon
>>14307530
I don't even think you need 26 episodes to cover Extra's content - certainly not more than 1, MAYBE 2 if you're generous episodes of LACROSSE
>>14305620
>>14305639
>>14305649
Humanity didn't stand at all, BETA just took their time to conquer the Moon ( Read some months, as they had to wait for their hive to develop before starting to move ). Actually Humanity's try to stand up there made them lose their more valuable fighters even before the Earth shit happened ( As they sent mainly aces capable of using the first type of what would become the first gen of TSFs, which got hardly chomped ).
>>14307434
My prayers have been heard.
>>14307434
>Miko Meiya
nggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh
>>In an alternate universe where the fallout of World War II led to a global split that left East Germany and West Germany in charge of the entire left and right hemispheres of the earth, the real war is only just beginning!
>>In 1967, the space race resulted in contact with the hostile BETA aliens hiding out on the moon, and their assault on a world too freshly divided turned the earth into a frozen hell!
>>Now specialized squadrons from East Germany, otherwise known as the German Democratic Republic, are dispatched to try and clean up the battlefields with mech-driven heavy artillery, the Robotic Assault Drones, RAD!
>>The 666th squadron, known as the BLACK REAPERS, are the strongest in the corp, but their integrity may be under threat of compromise thanks to infiltration by the evil Stazis, who want to turn the war into a vehicle for East Germany's supremacy.
>>Captain Theodore "Teddie" Ableback, fearful of such an outcome, begrudgingly enlists the help of West German transplant Kate Wallham to turn the tide of this global disaster and save the Earth from the alien threat!
>I initially approached Schwarzesmarken with trepidation. I've heard mixed reviews of its predecessor, Muv-Luv Alternative (of which Schwarzesmarken serves as a prequel), and its setting in East Germany raised red flags that this could easily be more conservative propaganda masquerading as a military otaku harem show.
>The unit is where the anime takes its name which is the German word for “666.” This sort of “scary” Christian imagery will seem tired to Westerners where every B-level horror film about demon possession has invoked 666 at one point or another. That said, I can't help but associate military units and vague religious icons with Nazism, especially ones shown committing mass executions. Schwarzesmarken is just toeing the line
>>14308358
It's funny, of the whole review roundup for that first episode, that one's one of the better ones actually.
Though, to be fair, the first episode of Schwarzesmarken is fairly uninteresting if you don't give a shit about Muv Luv.
BD poll finalist. They'll pick the top three next weekend.
>>14308759
Who's the blond guy?
>>14308761
Jurgen.
>>14308759
Is that even a choice though ? We all know Jurgen, Sumika and Cryska will win.
>>14308786
That's not Cryska, it's Matika, Cryska's older sister who bullies the other espers. She's a minor character in TE. And Jurgen isn't winning. It'll likely be Matika or Inia, Gretel, and Sumika. Jurgen is very popular among the LN readers, but they're outnumbered heavily by the VNfags, and he hasn't shown up in a VN yet (though his MiG-21P was shown off in a CG leak).
>>14308804
>CG leak
Wait, what!?
>>14309208
Well, yeah, it was a while back. There were glimpses of SM girls in beach wear and an image of a red Balalaika.
>>14309224
I know about SM Extra.
>>14309208
>>14309228
Jurgen's TSF has a very distinct head compared to everyone else.
>>14309591
I'm just waiting for him to go full Char and show up in a mask to laugh at Theo.
>>14309628
Jurgen would be mad butthurt if he found out what Theo did to his waifuinb4 Beatrix could have been like a mother to me.
>>14309646that references would perfectly fit like a fortified suit, if Beatrix was like Lalah & Theo was like Amuro.
>>14311575
Amuro has red hair, Theo has red hair.
>>14312958
wait..
> Jurgen gold hair - Char
> Theo red hair - Amuro
> Beatrix black hair - Lalah
.. holy fuck, this shit can write by itself!except the lack of Newtype & Theo was not into Beatrix, like Amuro & Lalah in MSG.but then,MAXIMUM PENETRATIONdid happen in MSG. guess someone could compile those point to fit like a fortified suit.
>>14313086
Beatrix would probably be closer to Haman in the end, and Theo did think that she was incredibly attractive even if he hated her.
>>14313955
but Char didn't give a fuck about Haman.
If we're going off of Gundam, I always saw Beatrix as being a younger Cima. She even paints her mech red (granted, it's more to honor Jurgen than anything else).
Can we get a definitive Muv Luv daki tier list? I got the $3000 tier for the kickstarter and I'm set on Sumika and Kei but jesus I can't decide on the last one.
>>14316581
I need to choose between Sumika or Kei, thoughts?
>>14316587
I chose Beatrix
Threadly reminder
Beta release never
Full release never
Alternative never
Strike Frontier never
Forefront never
Gun hazard never
Any 3D TSF game NEVER EVER
ded franchise
ded games
ded threads
ded waifus
ded TSFs
ded sergeants
ded Valkyries
ded slav espers
ded stasi agents
ded hope
postan best ded
>>14317904
>ded waifu
>ded stasi agents
But what if your waifu is a stasi agent?
>>14317918
What if your waifu is pic related?
>>14316581
Take them all, that's what I will do.
Or both Sumika and Kei if you're really not interested in others.
>>14317745
I like that.
>>14317745
![[Doremi-KGNE].Kimi.ga.Nozomu.Eien.Ayu-Mayu.Theater.[23D0ADB6].avi_snapshot_19.14_[2016.06.06_02.06.23].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/CkUoUD9.jpg "[Doremi-KGNE].Kimi.ga.Nozomu.Eien.Ayu-Mayu.Theater.[23D0ADB6].avi_snapshot_19.14_[2016.06.06_02.06.23].jpg")
>>14317745
> BETA corporation
> job: posting in 4chan
>>14319892
>>14320122
>>14316587
Kasumi
>>14317904
>Strike Frontier never
At least we're getting pre-registration gacha in a week
>>14307819
>>14320614
>Meiya didnt win
Whats the point?
>>14317843
Well, she's one of my favorite Mabu Rabus, but wouldn't you have been better off getting an exclusive KS daki and buying Beatrix's elsewhere.
>>14322075
who won?
>>14322566
Yuimoto.
>>14322640
I see, havent seen any of the latest SF news. What a sad day for a side character to finally win over a main girl
>>14322650
TE has a lot of undeserved popularity. See the BD poll here >>14308804 where an extremely minor character from TE got 25% of the votes.
>>14322661
Can't wait for October and finally have my waifu lose her place in the polls for birthday pictures....
>>14322726
Wasn't she popular enough to get her own Maniax back in the day?
>>14322762
"back in the day" was over 7 years ago anon...
>>14308804
>Eric Schmidt
>not Gregory Andropov
Wasted.
>Hmm so that was the last episode. The fight between the TSF's was nice. Walther and Sylvia I will miss them :(
>Katias speech was perfect, with this everyone recognized that they have to kill all the Stasi. Beatrix got absolutely rekt by Theodor, seeing her sqirm in pain was the best part of the episode. Seriously, fuck her.
>>14305620
How about a omnibus anime dealing with an Extra-verse world? I want to see that stuff animated.
>>14324354
People feeling bad for her are retarded. She's as ugly on the insides as she is hot on the outside. Beatrix embodies the old saying that beauty is only skin deep and only immature children like her.
>>14324569
You mean like another Akane Maniax?
>>14324634
>You mean like another Akane Maniax?
Sure, but more episodes, and about several for each major telling of Muv Luv-vese. Example - first arc of episodes can deal with Muv Luv, followed by the next arc which focuses on TE, and so forth. Just slice of life, rom com/comedy hijinks.
>>14324634
>>14322661
>TE has a lot of undeserved popularity
It was a fairly major release after a period of little to content (feel free to call me a moron if that's incorrect)
TE is what inspired me to dump 60-100 hours and read the trilogy, at least, so I'll thank it for that.
>>14324684
>le Beatrix bait image
People were saying she was shit before the anime came out, then the anime showed she was shit. The majority of people can see this and hate her as much as Axmann, but I guess if it makes you feel better being a contrarian, more power to you.
>>14324831
>>14324875
>only immature children like her.
Not exactly disproving my case.
>>14322075
We're already getting Meiya as normal pre-registration bonus.
>playing Alternative
>a wild Shogun appears
>Tsukuyomi agrees with putting the Shogun in Takeru's TSF even though she doesn't trust him one bit and thinks he might be a danger to Meiya
WHAT COULD GO WRONG.
>>14325226
Nothing, really.
>>14325267
Still dumb to trust the most important person to a the most suspicious guy in the group.
>>14325289
> tfw SCHEISSE ENGLISCH version never from SM
> tfw not even edited version of SCHEISSE ENGLISCH for that posted pic
Best TSF
>>14325295
To be fair, Marimo did entrust her to Takeru first.
If he would do anything with Yuuhi, it probably would've been immediately after he got her in his cockpit.
>>14328394
Truely
Happy birthday to best everything.
性能はザク以下だそうです
>>14332434
What's the deal with these random Japanese posts on /m/?
>>14332428
not Yuuko fags but have this.
>>14332466
nips saying hi
>>14333341
They're always out of context, though, and they never reply to anyone. Seems more like a spam bot or something to me.
>>14333362
They're sometimes in context.
So we're posting Yuuko?
>>14333782
yup
>tfw Jilpoong gone
>tfw no Leymei anymoresuch a sad world to be live on ;__;
So, based off the reviews and comments for schwarzemarken, how badly will the newfriends react when they play extra and fail to grasp it and unlimited are essential to the narrative.and then skip everything and play alternative and claim that nothing makes any sense and say the whole situation with Takeru makes him a marry sue.and the few who continue despite this will play and say takeru is being a whiny emo protagonist since they fail to understand the point
Should we expect Australian levels of shitposting or modern /jp/ levels?
>>14335080
I mean, doesn't that already happen a lot as is?
>>14335080
VN are always a niche media compared to anime, so I don't expect there will be that much of people playing it after seeing SM anyway (Especially those criticizing the slice of life side of it).
I mean, there will be some people who will shit talk about Extra and Unlimited, but there is already a bunch of them in the fanbase who didn't wait for the anime to get in, so I don't expect that much more shitposting than what we usually have every once in a while.
>>14325289
You nerds are going to vote for Jurgen right?
>>14317934
Glad these shits were never mass produced.
>>14341175
>>14341175
>>14341179
How surprising.
>>14333900
They were one and the same man. Pretty obvious when you look at their artstyles but it was double confirmed by Kiminozo guy.
>>14336014
>>14336551
I don't know, SW may have been a litmus test, but with steam it will attract more attention. Though hopefully being a VN and having an art style appropriate for a more light hearted VN will also double as a litmus test, given what some of the green light comments say.
Though then again, I am seeing a few more people then usual complaining about lacrosse.
Though given that there is a disturbing amount of people who ironically bought the skaura series games just to joke with their friends, we may get those people.
I don't know, maybe I am just being pessimistic about this, but I've noticed that people are at least more aware of VNs, though general taste of the hoi polloi is still rather plebeian, I fear the worst case scenario will happena fairly big name let's player will either make fun of extra or do a more serious look at it as a whole.
Though hopefully /m/ being a fairly low traffic board means at least the muv luv threads won't get flooded
>>14342233
>Though hopefully /m/ being a fairly low traffic board means at least the muv luv threads won't get flooded
No, that's /a/'s job for the most part, though we did get some ignorant secondaries even for SM.
>>14342233
Good point on the let's player, especially when I think I heard about some well known people doing VN videos. Though I don't think most of them are the type to play VN, so they will probably stick to Extra and bash it, thus their community will probably not be interested.
And yeah, if anything we have /a/ to hold the flood.
what's the deal with the kikestarter? when are we supposed to get our stuff? I just saw the email showing the pillowcase designs and I'm honestly a little disappointed at how boring the meiya one looks.
is the deadline for changing your shipping address already past? I might have to move again next month.
>>14343231
You can still change it, they're not going to send collector boxes until MLA release date is set.
>>14343593
is there any idea of when that will happen?
>>14344170
Probably September at this point.
>>14343231
You were suppose to get the Yuuko bag with some goodies already, unless you chose to have everything ship at once.
I think Extra/Unlimited are both suppose to hit this month on STEAM, so digital codes soon hopefully.
>>14343231
If your tier had a pillowcase in it, your BackerKit is not locked down so if you don't like the designs, you can always switch to another tier.
>>14344312
July is now the release month for Extra/Unlimited, probably early July.
When the fuck is Strike Frontier
>>14342233
i want to let you know i'm a shitter and right now i'm going through this shit and saving every screenshot i can where they mention autistic mode to shitpost later on with and make your series something you hate
prepare yourself, nerds!
>>14344869
Relatively soon-ish
>>14309591
i'm getting a Eva-03 vibe from it
>>14344854
Damn, it's July now?
I thought they were trying to get it out before Anime Expo to avoid getting CHOMPED by fans.
>>14344854
Man at this rate we'll get Alternative by feb 2017.
>>14345989
BETA was supposed to get released in early June, but they canceled it in favor of working on the full release for a complete month, targeting July.
>>14346037
Alternative has no defined release month yet, so with a vague Winter 2016, it could actually be Early 2017. The first idea was September, but I'm pretty sure they will be late and it will be released in November or December...
Actually December 25 would be a good release date, marking the anniversary of the end of Alternative IV. Or October 22 if they get it ready for then.
>>14317904
ur ded a shit
>>14345947
Don't bully
>>14317904
You forgot the biggest of all
>SRW never
>>14347931
too late nerd
better get into your anti bully positions because i'm coming at you
>>14348537
Kasumi in the pic seems.. weird.
>>14348537
I like how Mikoto is the only one smiling in unlimited.
>>14348537
Source?
>>14348706
It has been posted on Twitter by Evan.
>>14348537
I'm not fond of the art style, original titles were way better.
>>14348714
Yeah this newer artstyle is kinda weird. From all the maburabus I think I like the SM character designs the most. Lise in eishi suit makes my dick go dokidoki.
>>14348714
The background Takemi is gone too which is a mortal sin.
>>14348537
But where's the Takemikazuchi?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYoeIpdSni0
Muv-LuvVR
>>14348722
the only best Imouto man can get.if only Stasi never exist ;__;
>>14348722
>>14349014
>>14348722
>best designs
>worst personalities
>can't even sex them even if you wanted to
>>14349014
>best Imouto
laughing hard at you
>>14349317
her spinoff training OVA episodes when?
>>14349014
Well, at least Theo avenged her.
Seeing Beatrix and Axmann die was one of the most satisfying moments in all of Muv-Luv. I only wished it had been more agonizing for the both of them. Hopefully, there's a special place in hell for the two of them for everything they did to Lise, her family, and thousands of other innocents.
>>14349014
Happy Lise in extraverse when
>>14350018
How can they be happy living a communist shithole where they can be dragged off and tortured at random just because some sociopath feels like she isn't meeting her evil quota?
>>14350028
Clearly the Wall would fall, Germany would be reunited and everyone will get to live the lives they wanted. But its Extra I ain't gotta explain shit.
>>14349981
>laughing hard at you
Don't deny it.
>>14350028
Beatrix, Axmann, and the rest of the stasi wouldn't appear in Extra, much like the BETA don't either.
>>14350070
She betrayed and tried to kill her onii-san. That's pretty shitty behavior, both as a sister and a lover. Not saying that I blame her too much though, Lise is a victim here. The blame should lie with her two bosses.
>>14350082
Right, even though what she would have preferred was to just leave the country with him and if that fails take him into custody so he wouldn't be killed for being a rebel. You have to remember she was brainwashed through whatever means that the Stasi couldn't be directly resisted, as much as she hated them herself.
But hey turns out they COULD beat the Stasi, hindsight sure can be a bitch sometimes.
![[Ohys-Raws] Schwarzesmarken - 10 (TX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_20.45_[2016.03.13_13.13.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/mAjBSTY.jpg "[Ohys-Raws] Schwarzesmarken - 10 (TX 1280x720 x264 AAC).mp4_snapshot_20.45_[2016.03.13_13.13.02].jpg")
>>14350142
Yeah, like I said, I don't blame Lise, I blame Beatrix for everything that happened. Still though, many of her actions reeks of a child being deprived of her favorite toy. If she could not have Theo, then she would destroy him.
>>14350082
>Beatrix, Axmann, and the rest of the stasi wouldn't appear in Extra
But they will, just not in the Stasi.
![[Commie] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [4FC957A8].mkv_snapshot_13.47_[2016.04.06_20.53.02].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ZWIua5g.jpg "[Commie] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [4FC957A8].mkv_snapshot_13.47_[2016.04.06_20.53.02].jpg")
>>14350155
Why would anyone even willingly serve Beatrix? She treats her subordinates horribly, more like dogs then people, purposely fosters an atmosphere of hatred and dysfunction among the Werewolves, and is so openly cruel that even the misery and deaths of her own own people brings her joy. Her stated goals aren't even for the greater good inspiration shit, but making an even more evil regime and killing everyone off.
>>14350180
So they're just going to be that ineffectual-comedic villain duo in Extra? That's a fate more cruel then any that I could devise. I guess Schmidt would be their Meowth or something.
>>14350189
In fairness, that's the anime, where the director outright said he depicted the Stasi as remorseless amoral scumbags because he didn't want to step on the toes of all zero people in Japan who give a shit about an organisation in a country that is not theirs that has been dissolved for 26 years.
Beatrix actually cares for her subordinates in the LN, Lise especially.
>>14350155
Yep thats over the top Yandere types for you. Still have to hand it to her for being willing to sell herself out to free her brother when their family got caught. At least in Extra she'd get to be a normal brocon imouto without such a toxic environment.
>>14350203
I find that hard to believe when the anime basically confirms everything I've been hearing about Schwarzesmarken for the past couple of years.
>>14350208
makes me so angry.
fuck you Assman and Beacunt.
i want to fukken murder them so bad
>>14350189
>willingly
Making a lot of assumptions here. Thats how cruel governments work; propaganda, and divide and conquer. There have been worse monsters throughout history than Beatrix that have had loyal servants who not only are loyal through fear and intimidation but may even adore them. And if the threat of torture and death isn't enough to break someone, then going after their loved ones, their friends and families most likely will. It just works.
>>14350232
Yeah, that is true. They may be like Lise, people who were abducted by Beatrix when they were children and tortured or indoctrinated into being stasi. It definitely explains why they were such poor fighters against actual motivated soldiers despite having superior technology.
Still though, even the most monstrous leaders knew not to pointlessly torture their closest subordinates.
>>14350249
To be fair that was Axmann doing the abducting and "breaking".
>>14350249
I just love how over the top edgy she is though. It's like watching something like Band of Brothers and then seeing Hans Landa pop up. Beatrix, with her sexiness, intelligence, and absolute sociopathy is like a bond villain in a somewhat down to earth military drama. They don't pull any punches because she's a hot woman either. There's no excuses or justification and nothing empathetic or likable about her; she is the most evil character in Schwarzesmarken, which I can respect.
>>14350259
Yeah, but Beatrix was the mastermind of everything. Axmann was simply riding her coat tails for the most part.
>>14350203
Type 94 disagrees with you:
>[Beatrix was] a one-note villain in the original novels.
>It occurs to me that she and Axemann are set up to represent different types of evil. Beatrix is someone who believes wholeheartedly in doing evil.
>Axemann, however, has no ideology. He seeks only to gain power for himself. He was part of the Stasi because he held power there. When things went south, he sought an alliance with the revolution, extracting a promise that he would be part of their new government. When it looked like they were going to lose, he threw in with Beatrix and the Moscow faction. And when the people started to rise up against them, he hoped to seek refuge with the CIA. He has no cause – he will serve whoever will keep him in power.
>So there’s something to think about: who is the greater evil? The one who devotes herself mind and soul to evil? Or the one who serves, but has no loyalty to, an evil cause?
Basically, he concludes that Beatrix and Axmann are about equal (but kind of leans more to saying that Beatrix was worse).
https://type94.wordpress.com/2016/05/03/schwarzesmarken-08-12/
>>14350210
When the depiction of SM is in an entirely different medium with liberties to suit?
>>14350307
Type 94 has always had his head up his ass, its not hard to find things in his translations that contradict his opinions.
>>14350307
>>14350452
Isn't that the idiot who says that the KGNE anime was better then the VN, and later went on to say the same about SM?
>>14350452
He's probably more right then you or me, seeing as how he's read the light novel.
Stasi btfo was the best moment of this anime.
I want /a/ to gtfo back to their own threads
>>14351148
I here you. I come here to discuss cute mechs, not to see this stupid waifu shit.
>>14351205
But i like my waifu
>>14351235
you're waifu is pretty cute
>>14351148
Yeah. I fucking hate LNVNfags. They always shit up threads wherever they go.
>>14351254
She's a bit rough around the edges but a total qt when taking out the subhuman BETA scumNoscale NEVER EVER, FUCK ME
>>14351148
>>14351235
>>14351254
>>14351205
>tfw /a/ is more /m/ then we are
>>14351948
>Screencap of that one fucker everyone hated who shat up threads and spammed
ok
>>14352009
They were just jealous that they weren't as /m/etal as he was.
>>14352554
>>/a/
>>14350199
You forget Jurgen will more likely also be in Extra.
So Beatrix will most likely be with him, leaving the comedic villain role to Axmann.
>>14350018
one can dream....
>>14350018
... & only dream. ;_;
>>14352769
>implying she wasn't just using Jurgen
>>14353189
>>14353220
We don't really know if Beatrix really loved Jurgen, or if she wasn't just trying to get away from her overbearing father or get at Iris.
>>14353292
Now that's a proper answer, but if they really did date for five years, odds are she really loved him.
>>14353298
>Sociopaths lack ability to love. Dr. Leedom says sociopaths may experience fleeting feelings of affection, but the joy they get from these feelings is far less than the joy they get from having power and control over others. Their inability to love is also called “emotional callousness” by scientists.
>Sociopaths lack empathy. Empathy stops people from hurting others. This is because an empathetic person actually feels another person’s pain.
>>14353309
>“There are people who are rather cold and generally lack the ability to love,” Dr. Leedom says. “However, these people have impulse control and moral reasoning and can be ‘good people.’
>“There are also people who can love and have moral values, but are very impulsive,” she continues. “These people do impulsive things, then experience deep regret. These people try to change because they are disturbed by their own behavior.
>“Lastly, there are people who did not grow up in an environment that allowed them to learn society’s rules. These people break rules out of ignorance and can improve with moral education.”
>t is only the emotionally callous, impulsive person with no guilt, shame or moral values who is a true sociopath.
From what I assume is your source Anon, there is not enough evidence to reach the final conclusion yet.
>>14353321
>emotionally callous, impulsive person with no guilt, shame or moral values who is a true sociopath.
>>14353359
>emotionally callous
Not enough proof for this as long as the Jürgen question remains unanswered. Otherwise point taken.
>Impulsive
If her equally sociopathic superiors didn't kill her off as a threat to themselves, she must at least displayed some self control.
>no guilt, shame or moral values
Then why would she try to justify herself?
no KS update yet?
>>14353426
It's being released next month.
>>14348705
Of course she is smiling, military regulations not allowing her dad to dress her in boy clothes.
Recent acquisitions?
>tfw lurking to /a/ for to see what shows are in the season
>oh its a muv luv thread
>expect some TSF and actual talking
>tfw none
Man it's like they are stuck on a loop.
>>14356091
this is what happens when you scare away trilogy friendo's
>>14356091
>expect some TSF
see
>>14351948
>>14356091
/a/ is cancer. They're obsessed with the worst part of Muv-Luv, its characters and plot. The best thing about Muv-Luv were always the TSFs and the Starship Troopers vibe. You look at Schwarzesmarken, for instances, and the characters were complete shit, the plot nonsensical, and the politics boiled down to absolute good vs evil, but the mecha action was good and the atmosphere was great. And it worked. The anime was riveting because character and story are just a means to convey the mecha action.
>>14356916
>The best thing about Muv-Luv were always the TSF
This. I didn't like the /a/ SM threads because the discussions were only about the girls and not the TSF's.
>>14348537
I like bou's softer modern style.
>>14350307
I dunno, Axmann had a brief moment in the final episode where it hinted he was a victim of the system like everyone else and became a sociopath because of it. The only truly evil character seems to be Beatrix herself.
>>14356091
The /a/ threads are literally just about pure, mindless spam. They don't care about anything besides maintaining their little clubhouse. It's sad. I suggest you tell the mods about them.
>>14356971
That's how I feel. Axmann was using evil to get ahead, not because he wanted to be evil. Remove him from that environment and he'd still be a douchebag, but not an evil douchebag. Beatrix is the one who is innately evil and the one who deserves no sympathy.
>>14356916
Permit me to regard half of your complaint as retarded, because without characters and without a plot there would be no call for TSFs, and no 'Starship Troopers vibe' to accentuate.
>>14356983
I'm saying that the character and plot were always secondary, as is usually the case in good mecha anime.
>>14356990
I'm inclined to disagree with you, considering how many characters from certain mecha shows gained the pull they did.
>>14356990
>muh masturbation.
>>14352814
>>14352819
>unironically wanting Extra
>unironically wanting Extra with the worst cast from the worst side-story
Unironically kill yourself.
>>14357056
How do you ironically kill yourself?
>>14357135
While reading aloud from Existentialism For Dummies and with Tarkovsky, Bergman or Godard playing in the background.
>>14356990
No, not at all. Good mecha anime have the mecha secondary to the characters and plot, or at most they're intertwined, such as in the case of the Getter Robo series, or Shin Mazinger Zero.
>>14357056
> remove important element from a story, no matter bad or good
how you would make a complete story if you remove those away?
you better off & make story for kids, where things is all good & not a single evil appears.
>>14305620
Hopefully fucking TDA
JUST GIVE ME THE CONCLUSION OF IT SO I CAN BE FREE DAMN IT!
>>14359604
I swear Chicken Divers ripped me a new one
>>14359604
I just want to see that final last stand when they are surrounded by the baters.so i can finally get a closing on the trilogy cast...forever
Why haven't age tried to flog the Schwarzesmarken or Total Eclipse LNs to Yen Press yet?
>>14359789
because as bad as SM and TE are, they don't deserve to be flogged in public like that
>>14359642
>tfw you will probably not be able to handle despair of that magnitude.
>>14359996
>>14359604
>>14359642
>Everyone is dead
>Takeru's Takemikazuchi is almost out of fuel and have no ammo left.
>Tanks and grapplers everywhere.
>Takeru is slowly spiraling into insanity.
>Shoots every single one of them.
>Out of nowhere, a carrier bater pops up.
>Twenty fort classes come out.
>Just the Type-74 CIWS is left in his hands.
>Having nothing left to lose he takes them on.
>It starts good, he takes down 4 in a swoop.
>His sword is getting dull.
>He keeps on flying around and cutting.
>14, 15 , 16, it just keeps on going.
>1 fort class left.
>WARINING: FUEL EMPTY.
>The fort class whips him to the ground.
>His TSF is inoprable.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W3h_Opxwbw4
>Monologue time.
>Flashbacks all the way back to the start of Extra.
>His cockpit is getting slowly opened up.
>His TSF's arm is rising towards the sky.
>Cockpit is open.
>Soldier class.
>His final thoughts are of Meiya, and Sumika.
>Credits roll.
>Post-credits scene.
>Basically the start of Alternative.
>>14359996
>mfw seeing them die all over again.
>>14360073
Fine by me.
I swear, if they don't end it with the scene where we see his TSF with one arm raised to the sky, I'm going berserk.
>>14360073
>His TSF's arm is rising towards the sky.
It would be 10/10 if there is shouting about how he will save them no matter what and that he will never lose.
>>14359642
We don't need to go that far. Just remake Meiya's extra scene to show how Ikaruga will NEVER, EVER win the Meiyabowl no matter how bad the world gets.
>>14360073
>Post-credits scene.
>Basically the start of Alternative.
Then it would be him walking out of his house as it then pans in the sky and the music plays.
>>14360146
Fuck yes !
>>14360146
>tfw it's Asu e no Houkou
>>14360073
>>14360146
>mfw it would still cause me endless despair nonetheless
>>14360476
There is no way TDA will have a good ending, so only despair is coming.
You know that from the start, that was part of the deal.
>>14360482
I know that...But man imagining the whole cast of TDA fighting in last stand makes me feel despair all that hopeful victory and shit have been compiled like a boulder...And I know that it would crush me ...but yetgood god i want it already damn it
>>14360505
That's the Muv Luv Complex. You know you will hurt yourself if you keep reading, but you want to continue.
When you think of it this way, SM as a series title doesn't stand only for Schwarzesmarken.
How much do you hate SM?
>>14360505
>that healing
That and him dual tagging with hibiki towards the reactor like a monster waa the best.
>>14361575
It has a better plot, but a worst cast then TE. Theo was a frustrating main character. Katia and Iris were boring and lacked depth. Lise's whole character doesn't make sense. Beatrix was evil in every way possible and had nothing to make her seem remotely human.
All in all, it was pretty shit.
>>14361575
As you are posting an LN image, I will assume that you are also talking about it and not only the animeshit. So it's probably -7/10 on my Hate scale, meaning I actually enjoyed it pretty much.
![[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_23.15_[2016.04.01_10.19.36].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qtF1HSA.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Schwarzesmarken - 12 [720p].mkv_snapshot_23.15_[2016.04.01_10.19.36].jpg")
>>14361575
>>14364389
I'll agree that Katia was kind of boring, but her character was central to the whole theme of Schwarzesmarken: that idealism and hope will always trump fear and evil. I feel like the author ends up using her as his mouthpiece at times, which can be annoying, but she does have the most character development. She goes from a naive, frightened girl into a leader who can inspire a nation.
As for Iris, she wasn't that bad. She was a capable, strong commander willing to make tough choices that others would not, but could still be empathetic and caring. It was refreshing to see them subvert her role as a heroine too. Normally, in these types of shows, she'd be the main love interest and would hook up with the hero. Despite Theo pining for her though, she never really returned his affections and kept their relationship purely professional like a commander should. There was no time for romance on the battlefield even had she been interested in Theo. It was nice to see that added sense of realism that just because the hero loves a girl, doesn't mean that she's obligated to love him back
You have to give them props for Beatrix though. She has one of the most sexiest designs I've ever seen combined with one of the most horrible personalities possible. She's like Katejina in a lot of ways, just even more psycho and unsympathetic. It's rare in anime to find a girl that's way more dangerous and worse then the guys around her, so good on SM for swapping things around. It's not even the sexy type of evil either, so you can't decide if you want to fuck her or fuck her up, and you hate yourself for being attracted to her.
>>14361575
It was pretty stupid, edgy, shallow, and ultimately forgettable. I don't think I'll be wasting my money or time on the SM VN, and shame on Degica for picking it instead of TE or TDA.
>>14364562
Except TE is shoddy and TDA is unfinished.
>>14364597
They're still better then SM.
>>14361575
I don't hate it just indifferent for the most part but I'm curious to see how the VN might fix that terrible ending.
Just got today.
>>14364735
I want a Lise pilot suit fig, swimsuits are retarded.
>>14364735
>katiafag
kill yourself
>>14364762
Sucks to be you.
>>14364854
BORN FOR RAPE
Just hotglued today.
>>14364514
>Katia was kind of boring
That's silly talk. I was paying close attention every scene she was in.
>>14364868
Katia was my favorite character.
Lise was the most "fun".
Iris I felt nuetral about.
Beatrix was the one I hated the most.
>>14364861
>BORN FOR LOVE
There we go
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>>14364908
That single moment was all it took for all the sympathy I had for her to die. Seriously, fuck Lise. I'm with Suzy on this one.
>>14364922
>>14364908
>>14364904
>>14364880
>>14364868
>>14364862
>>14364861
>>14364854
>>14364843
>>14364762
>>14364735
Go back to /a/ this is the mecha thread
>>14360073
fuck you man
Takeru has suffered enough
>>14364933
Man, you guys already chased the moonreaders and scanlators off. Who are you going to go after next?
>>14364946
Waifufaggots. Go back to /a/
>>14364946
Waifufags? How is this even a question?
>>14364951
>>14364955
go bomb the shitty symphogear thread
it's exactly what you are after and has been for fucking YEARS
>>14364951
>>14364955
You keep chasing people away, and it'll only lead to one post a day threads. I remember when we used to get LN translations on here before you guys decided that wasn't /m/ and ran all the Japfags off of here.
>>14364934
>Not wanting to see their glorious last stand
>not wanting to see TFS's being bathed in blood as they fall one by one.
It suffering but It will be glorious
>>14364961
>>14364963
We dont need our threads to be shitted up by waifu faggotry, go back to /a/ that is where this sort of talk belongs. Leave us to our cozy threads already for fucks sakes
>>14364968
But you guys are fine with the animeshitter secondaries taking a dump on things.
>>14364880
Sounds about right to me.
>>14364968
Fuck off. I don't want those threads making a mess on /a/ any longer, they plain don't belong. Generals like that should stay here.
>>14364973
He's an idiot on a one-man crusade.
>>14364973
No, I already told them to fuck off last time they were posting.
>>14364974
back to /a/
