NO TRY BASHING!
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NO TRY BASHING!
So what did Try do right.
We've had thread after thread of listing everything Try did wrong, but not once have I see anyone list what they got right.
NO TRY BASHING IN THIS THREAD. We've had plenty of that already. Tryhurrhurrhurrto focus on the positive.
>>14298404
>NO TRY BASHING
but that's impossible
EVERYTHING WAS SHIT
>>14298404
Fuck you it was shit. And with all that no try bashing in your topic, name and post, you knew this would happen.
Pic is me right now.
>>14298404
>but not once have I see anyone list what they got right
You had plenty of generals for that when the show was airing.
Fumina definitely Fumina.
But serious talk Try wasn't bad.
It was bad only when you compare it to OG BF.
The OST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpx7uNpRMFk
>>14298404
The Tryon episodes.
The first Denial episode.
>>14298404
>NO TRY BASHING!
But it was a pretty bad show, which appeared to be even worse than it was because it was the successor of a pretty fun show.
>inb4 *insert female character name* a best
>inb4 your waifu a shit arguments
>>14298422
>Try wasn't bad.
Yeah it was awful even for a Saturday morning shonen
>>14298404
>So what did Try do right.
Tryon-3 exists.
>>14298404
Minato.
Gyanko.
Shimon the snapfag, at least on paper.
I'd watch a show about those three as a team.
The team format was a good idea, but it would have been better as teams of 2.
The individual gunplay could get more focus then, and fights would have been more interesting for it. Also, less time necessary for character building for people who will mostly be background noise after their fight.
>>14298505
Also R-gyagya
Star winning is a neat concept just wish the kit was better, im a sucker for transforming SDs
>>14298422
>Fumina definitely Fumina.
Fumina was good at the start but once she started getting feelings for Sekai, she dropped hard
Fumina is way better than most female characters in anime. Other than her shitty romance sub plot she has pretty good writing and motivation.
>>14298505
This
However it makes me hate Try ever more, because I want a Brave series with the Tryon 3
>>14298594
>Other than her shitty romance sub plot
That shitty romance subplot ended up being her entire character. And it got really clear they didn't know what to do with her when they had her support role be played up as something good but then something bad later
>>14298594
>she has pretty good writing and motivation.
YAHAHAAAAAAA GUNPLA
is neither of those things
Characters like Minato and Boxer were cool
Crossbone's first animated appearance since G Gundam
>>14298404
Everyone forgets about Karate Dom, shit was hype. Unfortunately, it was also the first and only time Chicken How Are You was ever cool.
I unironically like the Transient.
>>14298422
Even by Saturday morning shonen tournament shows it was subpar. There was no motivation for the people you were supposed to be rooting for. There was no underlying plot, side arc, or anything. Just win nationals. Not even the world championship, just nationals. They accidentally gave everyone else propor motivation, like Snapfag Simon doing it for his little brother, or Minato wanting to innovate how Gunpla is built. That doesn't exist for our three protagonists.
Try's fine, I prefer GBF but I suspect that's just half because it came first. Neither Fumina nor Sei have much development because most subplots in GBF are "learns to like Gunpla even harder" and those two are essentially shown via shorthand to already adore that shit. Sekai and Reiji are basically the same character with Sekai having a bit more going on because he carries the show this time. There's nothing terribly wrong with the show other than a lack of major novelty, but that's true of a lot of toy ad series.
>>14298650
Sei gets over his insecurity, learns to free his imagination and becomes more outgoing by the end of the show. Youre right about Reiji but even he gets a *little* development, at least more than Sekai anyways
>>14298404
>So what did Try do right.
Fumina's character design. That's pretty much it.
>>14298404
The show didn't pander to me enough as a gundam fan like the first one did. No character pointing out mobile suits and obscure trivia, no barely represented suits getting some badass screentime.
Team gimmick hurt the show most of all. It was clearly established the type of budget they had for the first GBF. Maybe 2 minutes of gunpla action, like 10 minutes of regular talking and non action scenes and another 6-7 minute space with action/reactions. But in try because of the team shit while seeming to have a similar budget the fights weren't any longer so the "tactics" they used were half baked and individual fights suffered heavily.
Oh you said not bash the show. . .
>>14298676
Kinda? Like the show tells us that he's insecure and isn't outgoing but there isn't much that ever demonstrates that because he's best friends with Reiji by the end of episode 2 and seems to take all the new situations ins tride. There's episodes where he has issues working out how to improve the Build Strike but they're episode long subplots that don't really have enough continuity to them to feel like development. He's not a bad character, but he's not terribly developed, much like Fumina who has a couple episodes where she struggles with her place in the time and how to work effectively as an individual while still helping the other two to work together, again it isn't really brought up enough or allowed to simmer enough to feel like a character trait rather than a repeated subplot.
>>14298642
Tekkaman Exia wasn't the worst thing to come out of that mess, at least.
>So what did Try do right.
It ended.
>>14298594
Naw she was garbage. Nice design but shitty character. The romance wasn't even a subplot. It was who she was by the time it came around. Sekai couldn't even look at another girl without her spazzing out. She was one note. The whole team was
>>14298404
Only the first episode was awesome.
Case closed.
![image[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BXBe0RI.jpg "image[1].jpg")
>>14298404
It had a cute newtypeish girl
The soundtrack was good
And this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twJTHpZnTSI
If it was more like Haikyuu, I would have enjoyed it.
Also I would have loved Sekai to actually punch and kick normally instead of spamming special moves.
>>14298763
>She was one note. The whole team was
Yeah pretty much. The whole team started out somewhat engaging, with actual personalities, then gradually devolved into being extremelly one-note and static.
I actually liked how the 3 started out, and was looking forward to see how they would interact with one another and develop.I even wanted a Try season 2 or OVA with a more competent team to fix this, because seeing the first 3 or 4 episodes again it really feels like there was potential.
>>14298404
I think it was that it didn't take itself seriously. And yes, that is a good thing.
Gundam is a little overloaded with grimdark themes, so it was nice to see its attempts at something a more carefree.
There were some flaws, but this is certainly not the first thing to have them. Apart from Fumina, the main characters seemed a little under-motivated beside some of the other characters, and they could have leveraged their "these things have qualities that we don't" or "builds = strategies" a little better, though not for a lack of trying.
On the flipside of those, most of the characters were actually shocking well built for a gundam franchise. The fights were diverse and interesting, and they handled character development in ways that other anime often shies away from.
My greatest criticism is that Sekai improved without growing. His experience in the tournament had almost no effect on his character.
All together, it was alright. I'd say about a 6/10, packing a soundtrack that would fit a 9/10.
>>14298962
>Didn't take itself too seriously
Try was the opposite of that. There is a reason why the protagonists are called Tryhards. The main antagonists were also pretty bad, most notably the edgy guy who got arthritis from controlling his funnels too hard. They're the ones who are too serious.
>Fights were diverse and interesting
Most of them ended in a Chicken How're You, which is alright the first few times but quickly get grating.
>>14298505
I love this machine, and the plot armor needed for it to lose was absolute bullshit.
This Tetsuzankou wasn't half bad.
>>14298962
>I think it was that it didn't take itself seriously
>The fights were diverse and interesting, and they handled character development in ways that other anime often shies away from.
I can see someone making this argument for the original Build Fighters, but Try? How so?
Try takes its toy robot battle far more serious than the first season ever did, mayba apart from Aila. Even so, Aila was one character, Try is full of serious business like that.
And I don't see where you see any diversity on the fights, nor anything resembling character development for pretty much the whole cast, not just Sekai.
>>14298962
>I think it was that it didn't take itself seriously
No anon, GBF didn't take itself seriously. Try took itself a bit too seriously, at least as much as a show about Gunpla could get.
>>14298962
Did we watch the same show?
The anime took itself way too seriusly, which was bad. Team Tryhard and team Edgy sphere were the worst.
The battles were also infuriatingly samey, each would be a 1v1 culminating into Chicken how are you or the retarded SD doing some shit.
It had Gyanko so that's something.
She was like the only one that had an emotional link to her gunpla and I really felt her lose.
My favorite part of Try was how many names people came up for checkem how are you
>>14298404
Fumina, at least at the start when she was a gunpla dork
Shimon and Gyanko's stuff together
Everything with Minato
Tryon 3
The Dom, up until it was revealed it wasn't a Dom
The EZ-8 team
>>14298404
>So what did Try do right.
1 out of every 5 fights or so were almost as good as the ones from S1,
>>14299168
You mean ketchup or barbeque?
>>14298404
Sekai was everything wrong about Try.Same with School Days as well.
>>14298602
>And it got really clear they didn't know what to do with her when they had her support role be played up as something good but then something bad later
It was more like "You can't afford to dedicate your presence to herding cats, girl." than support being bad in itself. The problem here was that in a regular sports series, that shit would be solved by means of a sports camp training sequence where the two of her teammates learn to fucking follow directions.
Cardigan is one of the sexiest GMs. Lightning Full Burnern is pretty cool too.
I wish there were more customs of existing designs, instead of most recurring characters using an OC. The ones that were there were good though.
And although JEGAN HOW ARE YOU ruined the show, it's fun in Gundam Breaker.
>>14298404
Most people have already covered the nice parts, but to answer your question, OP, it had the GM Cardigan.
And the OST was okay.
I hated how the show fellated 00 so much. BF gave shine to tons of shows like Seed, X, Wing, Zeta, 0080, 00 and even sidestories like Astray. BFTry? If you weren't using a GN Drive or based on a UC suit you weren't shit. I don't even think Seed or Wing had reoccurring units.
Having the Nemesis kid show up with a Crossbone X1 Full Cloth was pretty great until it actually happened.
>>14300119
>I wish there were more customs of existing designs, instead of most recurring characters using an OC.
This, 100%. Gunpla Academy's customs were shit.
>>14300131
>b-but the Burning is an Impulse custom!
![[HorribleSubs] Gundam Build Fighters Try - 07 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.14_[2016.06.01_00.02.44].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/ia2Fip3.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Gundam Build Fighters Try - 07 [720p].mkv_snapshot_17.14_[2016.06.01_00.02.44].jpg")
>>14298461
>>14299007
If Sekai had used regular martial arts like Junya or Simon, he would've been a lot better. Or better yet, make the snapfag himself was pretty cool, but wasted.
>tfw the best things the show ever did were a waifu for chubby chasers, an athletic jailbait waifu that was subsequently ruined with love triangle bullshit and throwing away good mecha design, an edgy version of the cathedral gundam (which was only cool because it pretended to do damage to the MCs that everyone hated), a transforming version of the Try Zeta, HG Hi-Mock which has nothing to do with the actual show, and the porn as long as it didn't have Sekai in it (although honestly Fumina was the only one worth fapping to, or Shia mindbreak)
10/10 Try Fuckers did nothing wrong
>>14298404
It had a neat Impulse-Victory hybrid. That had a disgusting pink-purple color scheme. And jobbed immediately pretty much immediately.
>>14300119
>I wish there were more customs of existing designs, instead of most recurring characters using an OC.
I feel like they had a weird mix where most of the designs went too far either one way or the other. Red Warrior and Lightning Zeta were just completely reused designs with no customization outside of weapons.
>>14298422
I liked the Super Fumina
>>14298642
Anyone else seeing Tekkaman Blade?
>>14300109
At least the latter could get murdered, thank god.
>>14298404
Fumina was a god tier fap material.
>>14298404
I actually liked the idea of martial arts protagonist since that means cool action scenes. But NOOOOOO gotta spam those footages.
Minato was great, I guess. He's pretty much the only one who has the spirit of OG GBF characters.
Things Try did right
>Gyanko
>Simon
>Minato
>Tryon-3
>Cardigan
>EZ-SR
>Karate Dom
>Pic related
Am I forgetting anything?
>>14300778
The thing about Try is that all the good things are only there for a couple moments and then they disappear or they completely shit on them.
Cardigan, Gyanko, Karate dom, Simon and Tryon 3 were all just wasted.
The actual content of the show and the things that get the most atention are just shit.
>>14300136
This was the dumbest part about it. Burning should've been a custom Shining, not just an original OC.
>>14298404
They brought G-Gundam back
>>14298404
>Tfw a no-Try-bashing thread can't come up with praise for Try and only goes into greater detail on why it was shit
How did they stray so far from Build Fighters? How did something so good lead into something so bad?
>>14301075
they rushed it out after seeing how well received GBF was, there's actually some good things and genuinely fun things in the show but like >>14300787 said, they were sparse.
>>14298704
You're really reaching if you're trying to argue that Sei was just as badly handled as Fumina.
Sei never devolved into one of Reiji's harem members, for one thing.
>>14298806
Shia was shit. I want to break her legs and feed them to his brother.
>>14298501
How many Saturday morning shounens have you seen?
>>14298461
>need to represent boxing
>resort to imitating meme mango that has gone on too long
>have him weave uselessly in a pattern while the opponent is completely open
>you gotta weave a ton to throw hooks guys
Try was so shitty at everything it tried to do.
>>14301634
The entire Beyblade seasons until G-Revo. Battle B-Daman until the R/C Cobalt Saber thing and it got really ridiculous. Those dinosaurs card game thingy with shit 3DCG. Bakegyamon. And many more that I forgot.
Try used a lot of cliches and tropes from those anime but can't use them well.
>>14301099
Bandai didn't expect the first one to sell as well as it did, so when it turned out to be a hit they wanted to make a show with a more broad appeal. You know, "turn down that nerd shit and make something more kids will enjoy," with greater focus on making the whole thing committee-designed.
>>14301690
>turn down that nerd shit
Oh man was that a mistake
>Fumina introduced as MC
>best episode of the season
>sekai takes over
>season never recovers
She should have stayed a crazy ho desu senpai
>>14298404
>So what did Try do right
Gyanko.
>>14298594
>Fumina is way better than most female characters in anime
For something like 5 episodes then she ends up just as bad if not worse.
>>14301099
>>14301075
I feel like the only reason team battles existed was to sell three times the amount of Gunpla. The worst thing about that was that most were Gundams and Zeon mecha was neglected. Dom R-35 was cool though.
Sugita not piloting a personal Gundam.
Fumina was insanely hot. Even dudes in hentai doujins were like " jesus christ this girl is in middle school?"
>>14298404
Gyanko, because boobs.
>>14300785
THICK
>>14298404
I liked Shia, but that's mainly because I'm an unrepentant lolicon and she tickles my loli imouto femdom fetish.
>>14302110
That leg wear was terrible though.
>>14302110
As a fellow lolicon: Shit taste.
>>14301634
Beiblade, YuGiOh up to 5Ds, Pokemon up to D/P, Transformers Armada, Cory In the House
All of them were better, but in TRYs defence there is worse shit out there like Bakugan(?)
>>14298404
No matter how awful Try was I will always remember Gyanko fondly. She was incredibly hot and likeable.
>>14298413
>Mega-Shiki was shit
Get a load of this guy.
>>14301998
I don't remember fapping so furiously and so frequently as in the first few weeks of Try when Fumina fanart simply exploded.
No matter how bad and disappointing Try was, both this fact and my fondness of the first season and overall concept of Build Fighters will always keep my feelings towards Try very conflicted.
>>14302303
Is there a Super Fumina doujin?
It was nice at least that Try had something for everyone in terms of porn. Athletic girl, chubby girl and loli.
It just needed a milf to be truly perfect.
>>14302343
This, it needed more Rinko. Or a comparable milf.
>>14298404
They did the girls right
China was boring. Aina and the blonde with the drills acted like bitches.
>>14302369
I like China and Aila, but yeah there's no comparing with Fumina and Gyanko.
Any background cute girl from both series is still leagues above Shia though.
Gyanko was just too good for the show.
>>14300144
>as long as it didn't have Sekai in it
Even that is debatable. No amount of Sekai could possibly ruin pic related.
>>14302369
If you're talking looks I agree. If you're talking character you're so far off base it isn't even funny.
>>14302422
Literally my least favorite doujin by them.
>>14302424
I wanto to disagree with that but I can't find a way to do it.
The sad truth is that Try girls started out pretty good personality-wise but like everything else in the show went downhill after the first 5 or so episodes.
>>14302422
Didn't they change Fumina's outfit because parents were complaining it was too sexualized?
>>14302448
I don't think we ever got a confirmation for that. We just know that the black and white outfit never debuts.
>>14302448
Never heard anything about that. Besides baseless /m/ speculation, that is. Everyone got new clothes halfway through so I doubt there was a particular reason. It's just that by that point Try was so shitty they couldn't come up with an outfit as good.
>>14302448
Probably not, if there were parents complaining we would known like when it hapenned with IBO's violence.
And usually Japanese moral guardians doesn't make the same fuss over sexualization in animation as westerns do.
>>14302468
>IBO's violence.
I'm sorry anon, but what? You have to have fights in order for there to be violence.
>>14302472
They complained about the execution scene in like episode 3.
>>14302454
Which black and white outfit?
>>14302477
You mean the scene where Mika shot a dude who was off-screen? Yeah, so violent.
![[HorribleSubs] Gundam Build Fighters Try - 02 [720p].mkv_snapshot_22.53_[2016.06.01_18.20.46].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/BCkRQ6m.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Gundam Build Fighters Try - 02 [720p].mkv_snapshot_22.53_[2016.06.01_18.20.46].jpg")
>>14302478
The one she wears in the first ending.
>>14302472
That actually happened when IBO still had fights, but it has more to do with how the executions were shown than with robots fighting.
>>14302480
Violent enough for soccer moms to complain about.
Don't forget IBO airs in the afternoon, the chances of some idiot getting upset over nothing is higher than with late night anime.
>>14302456
>Everyone got new clothes halfway through
Except Gyanko, fuck every single member of the staff. It just wasn't enought that she didn't appear in the beach episode.
They better correct that in the OVA
>>14302487
>Black
Anon I think you may want to see a doctor.
And I thought she wore it at least once.
>>14302495
That still seems ridiculous. If they actually showed Crank getting shot and his head exploding or something I could understand, but he was off-screen the entire time. Did some American soccer moms go over to Japan that week?
>>14302502
Japanese parents complain all the time. It wasn't even the Crank one iirc. It was the one where they had the guys handcuffed in the barracks and Mika started executing them.
>>14302352
It had a sexy oneesan, though. Shame that Mirai ended up being pretty bland and uninteresting.
>>14302502
There was also that scene with the adults being tied up and shot down by Mika. I think that was the one that upset them. Though there's no gore nor anything it was portrayed in a more ruthless and disturbing light, while Crank's death was almost honorable.
I do agree it's still ridiculous.
>>14300787
Can't deny any of that.
Then again, I stopped caring after Nielsen Labs and just moved on to G-Reco. That was a mistake.
Thank god I still enjoy AGE after all this time.
>>14302528
>it was portrayed in a more ruthless and disturbing light,
Wasn't that the point?
>>14302526
Anon, Mirai can't even begin to compare to Rinko.
>>14302526
I've found that most anime chicks are bland and uninteresting. They exist as fanservice and waifu bait and nothing more.
>>14302526
>sexy
There was nothing sexy about this generic character design. She is like the most bland character in anything ever. Seriously. I can't think of a single positive to her.
>>14302499
She never wore it.
>>14302526
She was fine in the first few episodes.
... Damn, how many times will this be said in this thread?
>>14302532
It was. But it's shock value shocked the wrong group of people.
>>14302546
Wish they'd built up on the fact that she knew chickenhowareyou too. It would have given her more character; maybe they could have even had her teach Sekai a move to beat that Edgy guy. Instead it's just brought up once and she spends the rest of the series as background eye candy.
>>14302546
That's what's specially frustrating about Try. It didn't have an entirely awful base premise and characters, it had some promise but the studio had a talent for ruining evert single good aspect of it.
>>14302561
I wonder why the part where Mika killing Cima didn't get any flack.
Seemed just as brutal and cold hearted.
>>14302578
She was as shallow as characters can get, literally juat for eye candy once she becomes the tournament idol.
Funny thing is they already did that in S1 but it was so much better.
>>14302582
The show was already receiving complaints saying it's too brutal for it's timeslot as well as whitewashing terrorism (Dort Arc), so it was probably just seen as more of the same by that point of the show. After all, since episode 3 they used the show to call for stricter regulations/parental warnings.
>>14302609
00 as a whole is pretty much romanticizing terrorism yet no one complained all that much about it.
Times are changing.
>>14302546
I liked her fussing over Sekai and Fuminas relationship when neither of them gave a shit about it. When Fumina got a boner for Sekai it ruined the joke
>>14302627
Not to mention Kira in Destiny, but the thing is they wanted us to sympathize with the Dort Workers. Other shows at least talked about whether the heroes were doing the right thing or not, but IBO had these workers obtain smuggled weapons, kill port authorities when they resisted arrest, threaten violence if their demands weren't met... and yet when they're killed it's presented as "oh so tragic. Gjallarhorn are real bastards." Then Kudelia gives a speech about how they were innocent and the show treats her as so sugoi while giving the workers everything they wanted.
Destiny, and I can't believe I'm saying this, at least had Kira question whether he was doing the right thing. Ditto 00 and Wing, which also pushed pacifism (minus Endless Waltz). IBO has none of that, and that's what sent parents off.
>>14302661
>Wing, which also pushed pacifism (minus Endless Waltz)
Duo did say "Let us only take the weapons, and war itself, with us to Hell!" during the final battle when they were all taking out the Serpents.
Eh, I guess one line isn't really pushing a theme, though.
>>14302661
>yfw IBO is actually worse than SEED "I declare peace with weapons raised" Destiny with moral messages
>>14302661
That actually makes sense. As shallow as it was SEED and 00 tried to have some degree of moral questioning. Even if the answer to "Are we doing the right thing" was always "Of course we are, you're fucking Jesus".
That at least gives the show an excuse against rabid soccer moms.
>>14302743
That's because we're talking about people who will take the content at the most basic face value possible.
>>14298404
>do right
Red Warrior's entrance.
the last episode was not bad, and even that seemed questionable
>look at all these characters having fun! Are you having fun yet? Despite the shitshow that is the previous twenty episodes?
it's like someone went "shit, we forgot all the FUN!" in the last minute and tried really hard to make the last episode hype and exciting.
And they still have to cramp in some WE ARE TEAM WORK TOGETHER FLY TO BRIGHT FUTURE speech bullshit.
>>14302834
I actually kind of hated the last episode because it just rubbed it in how it could have been.
I was having fun and I was so mad because of it. It's like they were taunting us.
>>14302874
The final episode was alright but still too much fucking shipping. Dear God. Fumina attacked Sekai because of Shia and then Gyanko and Fumina attacked Shia over Sekai. Then Ral came in and supported the damn shipping. None of the fights were actually shown. The 3 girls fought with Lady off screen and then Fumina joined Yuu and Sekai out of nowhere to launch their stupid attacks into the distance. I fucking hate this show.
>>14302886
I don't care about the shipping, I just wish it had some kind of resolution. That's something regarding shipping the first BF did right, and in BF it was just there in the background.
Shipping shit was on the foreground with Try yet they go with the lazy option of having no resolution whatsoever.
>>14302901
>>14302886
I really didn't like the whole Mirai/Yuuma thing, I was never sold on that and then at the end they kinda implied they could have something after it but never delivered on it.
The whole love triangle shit with Sekai was even more annoying, especially since the show heavely leaned towards a Fumina end and again, didn't delivered. Doesn't help that I ahted both Sekai and Fumina.
I GOT ONE!
Amazing Red Warrior.
Best gundam design in Try, and was the best part of the only good fight in Try.
>>14303002
It was cool but I just don´t like the Char character using a Gundam. This was a problem I had with the first BF too though.
Best suit was Zaku Amazing.
>>14302834
The ending was the best part though.
>LOOK AT THAT SHINING STAR! IT'S A METAPHOR FOR OUR FUTURE!
>*Sekai blows it up*
They had to have known.
I don't think I've encountered a more uninspired 'rival' team in sports or shounen anime. They literally just existed.
>>14303002
It's literally not a design from Try.
>>14303002
Other than adding a gun-sword, it's ripped straight from Plamo Kyoshiro.
>>14298806
>tfw Shia's design hits all the right notes for you but her character is so shit it hurts
>>14303079
It's been reworked from plamo Kyo to include more missile hatches on the skirt and knee armor, slightly more detail all around, and new additional weapons.
It's a light redesign of a existing design, just like most of the customs from the first season.
>>14302472
Problem is that it aired on prime time. Anime usually airs midnight you know.
>>14303088
That's how I feel towards Fumina. Though she at least was a fun character for a while, I have that to cling to.
Shia arrived when everything was already going downhill so she has nothing salvageable.
>>14303007
>>14303002
Same. When I heard that theme and "red gunpla" I was like HOLY SHIT HE'S GONNA KICK THEIR ASSES IN THE ZAKU AMAZING but no we get yet another protag gundam.
>>14302110
She's really not a loli...
>>14303126
Man, Gyanko filled out spectacularly.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCIn18NPscw
This video alone makes me hate Try. What could have been...?
>>14302124
Bakugan's first season was great.
>>14303167
I only watched a handful of episodes from the dub when it happened to be on.
But from what I've seen the third season seemed to easily be the best. It actually grabbed my attention while what I saw from first, second and fourth were there mostly for background noise.
Still wouldn't call any of it good, at least not the Nelvana version.
>>14298404
fumina's outfit
then it too turned to shit
I really wanted more of these three together.
Fumina's character design.
I don't even think I could thow a ball park guess out about how many pages she has on pixiv.
So pretty much just the waifus were done right.
>>14303832
Not even that, as the show goes out of this way to shit on the one thing it was doing right. Fumina and Shia become one note and ranging from uninteresting to annoying, Mirai and Gyanko become bland background.
>>14304062
Shia was never anything other than one note.
>>14303454
I still think it should have been Sekai/Gyanko/Shimon as the main team.
>>14304073
>not Minato/Gyanko/Shimon
Brown haired team a best.
>>14304071
muh gunpla emotion
>>14304073
Needs a monoeye MS on the main team, honestly.
>>14303832
>So pretty much just the waifus were done right.
Their character designs were, the waifus themselves, no
>>14304174
Minato with Fumina and Yuuma is better.
>>14304708
That would only create more romance bullshit, which is what ruined Try in some ways.
Minato isn't interested in Gyanko and her and Shimon are bros, Gyanko also isn't interested in any of them so what you are left with is just a team of friends doing gunpla stuff and bonding with each other through the hobby (and teaching Shimon about the wonders of gunpla).
You know, the thing GBFT lacked.
>>14304735
No.
>>14298404
Compared to G-Reco it was okay.
>>14304739
Do you really want that slut Fumina ruining things yet again?
>>14304748Yes.It's what she does best.
MC Bowls are dumb and stupid. They eat up too much time and have no payoff.
Why did the took so long to announce the OVA?
>>14305015
Do we have returning characters from GBF confirmed? I'm gonna punch someone if there isn't Fellini.
>>14301644
>fuck references!
>>14301068
Since the subject came up, does anyone know what the OST during the Tryon 3 combination sequence is?
>>14303079
>>14303086
I know brah, still the best part of try.
>>14305173
I assume Fellini and the others will be in the BF OVA though that wasn't announced yet I think.
>>14305281
Track 8 in OST2.
http://tindeck.com/listen/wlkzm
While we're talking music, I'm still mad that a couple themes were just completely unused. And still others were barely used in favor of fucking Clear and Serene, over and over and over again.
And yes, I'm still counting the remixed version that played in the latter half as Clear and Serene because come on.
>>14306169
>that mirai face
>>14305173
They released a couple Jegan models that are from the Renatos, IIRC. And the Gyancelot.
>>14306233
I theorized that Gyancelot will actually be Tateo's ms
>>14305015
I'm assuming Japan had some similar reactions to us, and Banrise saw that they rushed Try out the door, so they took their sweet time to work out the OVAs to try to recover their golden goose that they nearly killed with Try.
>>14306283
I hope to god you are right but the issue is they already set up the characters poorly, no OVA will fix what was wrong with Try.
The best we can hope for is some fluff with the good elements of the show. Minato and Gyanko being themselves, new suits and Fumina in skimpy outfits hopefully silent..
>>14308014
I hope that this show will be a lot Gyanko and good anti-Gundam MS
>no try bashing thread
>becomes try bashing thread
Goddamnit guys
>>14308336
wat did you expect?
TRY is in the bottom of the barrel of shit, along with stuff like Age and reco
>>14308256
>gyanko
There is Gyancelot so chances are high, plus I hope they had time to realize people loved Gyanko and won't push her to the background this time.
>anti gundam MS
Yeah, that is never gonna happen
>>14308373
But none of them are bad.
>>14308424
Try is objectively bad
>>14308429
But it's not.
>>14308256
>show
You do know this is just an OVA right?
>>14308462
But Gyancelot has been confirmed so who knows what will happen?
>>14308475
If there ever is another BF season it has to be about another team entirely, possibly in the future.
Of course you'd have Ral, Meijin and a gyan kid to keep the meme alive but that should be it.
>>14308475
Well, Wing OVA has many new toys too.
Why was Gyanko so good?
>>14308483
>>14308482
I just mean it might have a lot of Gyanko despite being an OVA.
Although I know it will probably never happen, I always wonder what it would be like if the animators sneak in a Huckebein, give it a paper thin (like a color scheme change) disguise, and call it a Gundam for kicks...
>>14308491
She was the closest we had to an S1 like character. She spouted gundam references quite often, was a total gundam nerd and had an actual emotional link to her gunpla.
>>14308658
Gyanko divinely beautiful and devilishly good
>>14308658
And she had a nicely customized gunpla built from an existing kit instead of some scratchbuilt OC abomination.
>>14308516
>Not realizing that Gyancelot is probably the younger brothers.
Why the fuck didn't they make this kit more expensive? It's a damn toy commercial all about HG kits, so what's the excuse? Those claws are almost as shitty as the dragon SDs. (And this isn't coming from an SD hater, those were just awful)
BF Try teaches us all the valuable lesson that nepotism and cheating beats creativity and hard work every time.
>>14308793
>>14308764
It's amazing she turned out to be as good as she was really. Specially considering Try's ability to ruin everything.
>>14308922
>nepotism and cheating beats creativity and hard work every time.
>Yuuma
>Taught by Sei
>Spent years honing his building skill
>He's not the best pilot, but his high build quality makes up for it
>Confidence grows as the series progresses, instead of hanging back and hesitating to stay safe he starts taking more risks and being more agressive in style.
>He remodels a ReGZ until it looks almost completely different.
>Manages to repair and improve Sei's super high level gunpla.
>Manages to almost completely rebuild his entire teams gunpla in an entire night with minato's help.
>/m/ shits on him for that time he pussied out and because his customs don't have a ton of flashy crap hanging off them.
>Fumina
>Wants to support friends in battle
>Gets shown that she needs to be able to fight on her own as well beyond being solely support.
>Scratchbuilds two different custom sd kits with transformation and plavsky gimmicks.
>/m/ shits on her for dropping Cardigan and the forced love triangle.
>>14308900
THICK
>>14308984
/m/ shits on Yuuma because he was a whiny dick and his rival was more interesting. /m/ shits on Fumina because the love triangle and shipping for Sekai became her entire character and showed none of the Gunpla loving spirit she had in the first episodes
Also, yeah, dropping Cardigan didn't help
>>14309004
You really can't feel any sympathy for him since try fighters absolutely curbstomps every enemy they face in the tournament in the most uneccesary way possible.
>>14309004
The point was that two out of three of the winning team didn't get to where they were by nepotism or cheating. The worked hard to get there and improved on themselves. Sekai is the one who lucked into a pro gunpla and people who could work on it for him.
>Last couple of BF/Try threads
>See people talking about how sad it is that Sei left burning behind because it possibly means that he gave up on seeing Reiji again.
>He had an entire second copy of it stored in a special case that he kept with him when he moved to Paris.
Too perfect.
>>14298404
it gave a new slut for me to fap to (fumina)
>>14308984
>He remodels a ReGZ until it looks almost completely different.
>Scratchbuilds two different custom sd kits with transformation and plavsky gimmicks.
This is the major problem I have with Try. The custom suits with few exceptions are much less improved version of base suit and more just OC festivals. Look at something like the X Maoh. It's still obviously the Gundam X, but it has been improved from combat testing and had Maoh's personal flair added to it. Shit like the Lightning Gundam I had no idea what it was supposed to be until it was pointed out to me.
Also things like I to believe that Fumina made her SDs from complete scratch, including the transforming one? Bullshit. If you have an engineering mind like that you would not be in middle school. And she's not the only offender in this. Well over half the cast pulls this fuckery as well.
>>14309087
SD tend to be simpler than other gunpla and her two SDs "transformations" are really simple and are basically disassembling and reassembling the sections rather than anything complex moving and shifting in the parts.
>>14309138
Exactly, she is a scrub.
>>14309138
I'm talking about the Real Mode one. And Fumina is just an example. Gundam The Edge is another one.
>>14309022
I think people only complained about the nepotism in the last episode. Minato made an action figure from gunpla parts, yet Yuuma's donut steel still won nonetheless.
It's a joke, but it's a shitty joke.
>>14309168
Even real modes transformation is damn simple. Even compared to other sd with a real mode gimmick.
>>14309175
Minato only didn't win because he broke a copyright infringement rule that's standard in pretty much any sort of official plamo competition and got disqualified. Not because Yuuma is meijin's favorite or because Meijin thought it was creepy (he even says it is very well built).
>>14309175
I get it was supposed to be a reference to Naoki as the designer, but the lightning zeta is damn disappointing.
>>14309203
>but the lightning zeta is damn disappointing.
Good enough to win a real life major competition. A lot of people on this board seem to be under this weird impression that entries need to be super original or have a bunch of random detail and crap hanging off them to win plamo competitions. Actual craftsmanship and skill involved is the thing that can make or break an entry, and that's Yuuma's area of expertise.
>>14309210
In real life, yeah. But in a show where apparently making your own scratch build is no biggie, why should something as basic as Lightning Zeta Gundam win?
>>14309226
Only the top people in the tournament and people at world level have that level of skill. It was not implied to be common at all.
>>14309263
>Only the top people in the tournament and people at world level have that level of skill
Then how come almost everyone we see has it? And this isn't like a world championship thing either, this is fucking nationals.
Pretty much the only scratchbuilds we saw were all people who made it to the nationals, and the point of the nationals was prep for finding new people for the world tournament according to meijin. And even then it was only a handfull of people using full scratchbuilds.
People in the western gunpla community also make way too big a deal out of scratchbuilding. It's not a common skill but it's not exactly rare in Japan or other fields of plamo. I know like 6 people in my local IPMS group who scratchbuild.
>>14309315
Meant for >>14309270
>>14308984
The fact you didn't even try to put Sekai on that list shows even you know what that first anon really meant.
>>14309022
And two out of three of the winning team didn't matter at all in the long term. How many fights came down to Sekai pulling a win out of his ass?
Hint: All of them.
They never said anything about Try's reception, did they? They had that interview after the original series addressing the complaints(lot of good that did us) but I don't recall one for Try. I want to know if the complaints about Sekai reached them or if his suits just sold too much for them to care.
>>14309719
Even the fucking Tryon-3 fight had Sekai somehow magically burst out of the Tryon's finisher to shield the Lightning FB.
Fumina somehow doing it too kinda lessens the blow, but then you see that the Try Burning was the one that took the brunt of the assault since it's the one that exploded while the Winning just kind of falls down.
>>14309022
The team only wins because Sei decides to send them a new Build Burning, and only because Sekai was on a team with China's brother.
That is like the definition of nepotism.
>>14309764
And no, Yuuma and Fumina not explicitly cheating themselves doesn't suddenly make them free of all blame when the only reason they make it so high in the tournament is because they rely on Sekai's rampant cheating.
Hell Yuuma /knows/ that the Build Burning was made by Sei, and is in a league far above what everyone else is competing in. The fact he doesn't tell anyone anyways puts him on the shit list.
Meanwhile, and this is admittedly off topic, Fumina is well aware of how Assimilation works and yet seemingly cares little about what's happening to Sekai so long as her team still wins anyway. That's pretty fucked up.
>>14298404
Honestly all the girls in both seasons had great looks(Except China) but meh personalities(This includes China).
>>14302526
Why were there so many doujins of Sekai fucking his sister?
>>14309777
It's not cheating. I mean Simon used the ones assembled by his little brother.
>>14309793
>>14309799
The show is actually pretty weird about using kits other people built. It was straight up the main plan in the prequel series, and two other characters besides Sekai use kits somebody else built. But of those two characters, one of them is explicitly gimping himself by using a shitty kit while the other just as explicitly wishes there was another way and he didn't have to use somebody else's work. But the things that remains in common with all three is that they share a strong connection with the builder, and the kit's quality is at the most suited to the level of competition they're at.
And then there's Sekai. He just picks up the Build Burning and starts using it. Obviously you can't blame him for not asking permission because he doesn't even know Sei and Sei's the one who left the thing lying around for Reiji anyways, but you absolutely can shit talk him and the rest of his team for relying on a model kit that is clearly superior to everyone else's to make their way through a tournament. The fact that Sekai went through an entire battle with a dude who was screaming at the top of his lungs about how he wished he could be fighting with his own gunpla and didn't realize how it applied to his own situation still utterly baffles me.
>>14309799
Sekai and Simon are pretty much completely opposites. They're both the cornerstones of their team, and they're both using kits somebody else built, but Simon wins in spite of his kit while Sekai wins because of his kit.
There is a very big difference between the two.
>>14298404
Fumina was very fuckable.
>>14309824
Even though it would've never happened, it would've been cool if he kept with that first Dom he used, and ended up customizing that one into a martial arts suit instead.
>>14309849
>no plotline about Sekai accidentally trashing the Build Burning and forced to use a secondhand gunpla
>no more karate Dom
at least it would make more sense if Sekai proved that he could build and fight and thus Sei would give his consent by sending spare parts. It would be even better if Sei sent a full replacement Build Burning and Sekai turned it down for his own gunpla.
But of course we couldn't have that.
>>14309938
I would have liked it if Sei personally fought him to see if Sekai would be worthy of the Build Burning.
But that would involve prior character development of Sekai.
I don't think people would've complained about Build Burning so much if they hadn't forced Damage Level C as an excuse for why Sekai could be a shit pilot initially but not suffer for it.
What really irks me about Try is that it's literally a rehash of GBF.
Let's count the ways, including but not limited to:
>Red-haired fighter
>Blue haired builder that maintains the models
>Ramba Ral and Ramba-Ral suit
>Final tournament battle is an Exia mod
>Tournament battle in the first place
>SD combat
>Bearguy
>Gunpla Races, suddenly interrupted in the middle of the race, losing at the last second
>Gunpla Idol who is semi-competent at fighting
>dudes who use operator tactics (remote triggered explosives, surpressing fire)
>mysterious white-haired waifu who takes down a giant mobile armor single-handedly with a "grunt" unit (the Portent is a Trailblazer worker unit IIRC) and who has some sort of relationship with the red-haired guy
>Particle Inner Frame
>Final move is punching the other guy
>Making one gunpla out of multiple gunpla
>build/fight episode
>rival who uses Gyan-type and is promptly demoted to background when that arc is done
>lethal mysterious tournament opponent who can multikill enemy gunpla easily
>said indestructible opponent is taken out by exploiting particles
>gunpla Shingyo school of building
>Said shingyo osakan is in a build-related rivalry with the blue-haired character
>said osakan faces off against the blue-haired builder in a battle of build skill (aka who built their shit better) AND USES A FUCKING SWORD FINISHER THAT GOT BLOCKED FOR REASONS.
>apparently some sort of crystal at the source of powers (Arista vs. that thing inside the BB)
>Episode 23 "twist" (Dark Matter vs. Fapping Hand)
>rapidly escalating plavasky hacks
>gunpla fesitval
>Free-for-all battle
>widespread particle emission
Are rehashes bad? Maybe not. But I'm kind of peeved that Try took most of these points previously made by GBF and either did nothing with them or seemingly threw them in because it was in the last show. Given that they cranked out Try so quickly, honestly im not surprised that they tried to throw the "good" ingredients back in the pot.
>>14309951
>Sei vs Sekai
>Sekai gets so into it that Sei literally kills Sekai through gunpla battle
>>14309964
>>gunpla Shingyo school of building
>>Said shingyo osakan is in a build-related rivalry with the blue-haired character
>>said osakan faces off against the blue-haired builder in a battle of build skill (aka who built their shit better) AND USES A FUCKING SWORD FINISHER THAT GOT BLOCKED FOR REASONS.
What ever happened to Mao anyways? We know Sei's in Europe and stuff but Mao just sort of fucked off
