Hey /m/en, I just finished this a couple of minutes ago. I was going to watch it with /m/ back when the first 6 or so episodes were out, but uni work got tough so I had to put it back.
Honest thoughts, this is one of the best fucking gundam series I've seen, easily 8/10, was thinking of giving it a 9.
Its one of those few anime were I actually felt something for the charactersFumitan and Biscuit especially but also Gaelio's deaths ;_;7
So what did you guys thought about it if you don't mind me asking?
I noticed that people were really into it at first, then heard a bunch of people start to dislike it in the middle where it slows down a bit, but man, the last 7 episodes are fucking great.
>>14235519
The show was very good in the first 10 episodes, it started to get slow in the middle but then started to pick itself back up near the end. Until the final episode happened, made me put the show from a 7/10 to a 5/10
>>14235519
Get outta here
Fast
It's for you own safety
>>14235532
really? how come?
>>14235534
dude, if people are gonna get angry at me for liking a show then too bad, I've been on this sit for years, a couple of angry mecha nerds is nothing new
>>14235532
>>14235542
>really? how come?
I mean, I thought the last 2 to 3 episodes are kinda rushed, afterCarta diesI kept asking myself how the fuck did they plan to wrap this up in 2 episodes.
Nice premise but never delivered. I remember being hyped as fuck in the first couple episodes because I thought those little details would mean something but alas, they were thrown away so we could hear the plot being explained again. We didn't even get good battles out of this piece of shit. I'm ashamed I took off my shirt at the beginning, what a let-down.
It gave us some funny posts, though.
Episode 19 - A quality re-entry
Mika finds out about Barbatos secret power to reshape the universe. Char sits in a chair commenting on how Mika finds out about Barbatos secret power to reshape the universe
Episode 20 - Useless recap
Char and Kudelia talk about everything that has happened over the series while sitting very still
Episode 21 - Orga's fall
When Orga's plan to fly over to the people who want to talk to Kudelia goes perfectly both Merribit and Fellini have to tell him to be a better captain. Also Mika touches Kudelia's boob
Episode 22 - Low fuel fight
Both sides are suffering a fuel shortage so can only battle by not moving any limbs but scouting over to each other with thrusters. Atra gets eaten by a dingo
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>>14235519
Biggest fucking copout ever.
>>14235657
definitely agree there, hell, I would of been fine with just the dude from tekadan making it out, but they should have kept the two waifus dead.
also, the first ED, pretty good right?
I'd give IBO a 6/10 right now. It's decent and not offensively bad, but there isn't really anything special about it. The writing is weak. It ignores plot to flesh out the characters, who are all generic anime characters with the possible exception of Mika. Not to mention how repetitive the dialogue is along side the sheer amounts of forced exposition. While the lack of fights isn't an issue for me, what really grinds my gears is how one-sided they all end up being. I like how visceral the damage is though.
The show is passable right now, but I still feel people are overrating it. How season 2 proceeds actually interests me, simply to see if they continue on like this or listen to whatever complaints the show has cultivated. It's going to be a make or break deal on my final opinion of the show.
>>14235657
The reactions before the copout were pretty great though, even GP got in on the action
http://www.gundamplanet.com/hg-ibo-graze-ein.html
>>14235665
would you say though, that, this is a good series to show someone that doesn't know much about gundam, and you don't want to tell them to head straight into 0079 or Zeta, cause the old animation might offput them?
Cause I think its pretty good for that. I agree with what you said about generic characters and the lack of duality in the characters doesn't seem that big of an issue for me cause they're kids, they might get some fucked up ptsd once they grow up, but as kids they fight for what they perceive as right.
also
>S2
really? when?
>>14235668
whats the copout?
>>14235665
This.
And I also agree with you on the lack of fights - I wouldn't have asked for more, I wish they could have at least been
- Well animated and choreographed
- Interesting
- Tense
- Not one-sided
It is definitely over-rated. It's not offensively bad, but I'm the sort of guy with poor taste that thinks almost every single Gundam series is good. IBO and 00 are the only ones (excluding Igloo and some of the weaker summary compilation films) I would ever say are a 6/10 or less.
>>14235687
>excluding
Meant including here
>>14235601
Oh, man, I remember that.
>while sitting very still
EVERY TIME!
>>14235657
I still don't get how people fell for that to begin with.
>>14235698
We thought Ein could be a real enemy?
But thinking about it I don't know what we expected from a character that was supposed to die in the third episode.
![[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 25 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_24.23_[2016.04.03_13.26.49].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yIpAfFH.jpg "[HorribleSubs] Mobile Suit Gundam - Iron-Blooded Orphans - 25 [1080p].mkv_snapshot_24.23_[2016.04.03_13.26.49].jpg")
>>14235674
Fall. It was announced at the end of the last ep.
>>14235706
I can read moonrunes but I haven't learnt those moonrunes yet, thought it might've been hinting at an ova or something.
Makes sense cause if this had been the actual full series it would have left me wondering with why Mika and McGillis never fought. Also cause McGillis couldn't be a bigger char
>>14235704
There were people the same day the episode aired saying that they would obviously live. The way Shino was injured but still squirming. The way they cut away from Lafter. The way Azalee was slumped over but her cockpit wasn't breached. And the way that next to no one in the primary cast died the entire series.
But no, people wanted to believe Ein was the epic ball-busting big-bad that went on a murder spree. Were carrying on about it for a week. Then when what people had already told them would happen did, they bitched and whined and were shocked. No fault but their own.
>>14235519
>So what did you guys thought about it if you don't mind me asking?
Sunrise forgot to employ animators and writers for this show. The end result is IBO. Tastes are subjective but if I see someone eating shit well I'm going to have a pretty bad opinion of him.
>>14235519
You're either in middleschool or this is bait.
>>14235718
>The way Azalee was slumped over but her cockpit wasn't breached.
And yet there was a 1L of blood spurting from who knows where.
>>14235711
It's on their website too. An image named '2nd.jpg' that says 'Tekkadan will return Fall 2016'.
>>14235726
she probably just got rocked around pretty hard inside the cockpit and busted her head open, I don't think any of the suits in the series had airbags
OP here, so after finishing this, do I go back and finish the Patlabor TV OVA like I fucking should, start Votoms, or watch G-reco?
>>14235674
>would you say though, that, this is a good series to show someone that doesn't know much about gundam, and you don't want to tell them to head straight into 0079 or Zeta, cause the old animation might offput them?
I wouldn't really say that without seeing what they do in season 2. Again, it could either redeem the show by addressing the issues of the first season (like the show's bad case of protagonist-centered morality. There's a reason I've seen people in Japan comparing Mika to Kira), or completely ruin it by heading in the wrong direction (Mika: Fighting is awful, we need to UNDERSTAND each other).
Until it's done, I'm going to hold off giving it a definitive yay or nay.
>>14235674
>would you say though, that, this is a good series to show someone that doesn't know much about gundam, and you don't want to tell them to head straight into 0079 or Zeta, cause the old animation might offput them?
No. If you want to introduce someone to Gundam show them a good series. A modern good series. That is well animated, has good characters and a fucking storyline that goes somewhere.
Gundam Seed (the remaster edition)
Seed Destiny (remastered edition) for completion
Gundam 00
are all good Gundam series. IBO is not even on the radar man. It pales in comparison even with Gundam Age and that is saying a lot.
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>>14235726
>>14235731
Her suit took an axe to the head, it probably dropped something on her to give her the standard anime headwound that bleeds an insane amount but a few bandages and you're fine. It was clearly set up, with the zoom in on her eye and the oil spurt, to imply she got axed in the head, but there was no visible splitting of her body like a giant axe would do to a person, let alone any visible damage to her head.
>>14235750
>the standard anime headwound that bleeds an insane amount
Head wounds in general tend to be absurdly bloody. However, as long as the hairy cuticle is not penetrated, and the brain is not attacked, and as long as a swoon is not caused, the wounded man will be fine.
>>14235741
>Gundam Seed (the remaster edition)
>Seed Destiny (remastered edition) for completion
wait, /m/ likes Seed now?
also, never got around to seen Age, hell, all the gundam series I've seen are either early UC shit cause I goddamn love early UC, or pre 2000's shows like Wing, and GBF.
Masked Gali for season 2 when?
>>14235756
People who like 00 tend to like Seed, because they're into prettyboys
Or something
>>14235756
It's bait. Obvious bait at that.
>>14235760
Not really. There's plenty of people who like 00 that hate SEED. It's not unusual for people to troll multiple constituencies at once.
>>14235755
>>14235750
if you guys want to see a show that has massive trauma to the head and characters just getting back up...
>>14235756
>wait, /m/ likes Seed now?
I like Seed. As for the rest of /m/ who cares what they like or don't like.
>>14235765
>>14235760
>its bait
thank god, I've been gone for several months from /m/, I thought it was bizarro /m/ for a moment there
>>14235772
I like you
>>14235519
It's mostly alright, but the shallow, mary-sueish main characters and morality of the creators reaaaaaaaaaaaaaally fuck it up, both dramatically and thematically.
So, it's mostly shit, but it really wasn't before it showed its idiotic hand.
>>14235750
There's also the fact the show didn't have any problem showing people clearly being impaled or cut in half, so why would they suddenly obscure their deaths so much?
IBO is boring and goes nowhere until the last two or 3 episodes. Then they try to raise the stakes, but there's not stakes anywhere.
>>14235519
I thought it was total trash and not a single character got me to care about their "plight". First few episodes had promise, I'll give it that.
>>14235662
The sluts were never confirmed dead, retard. The show implied that they were heavily injured, though, but that was all.
>>14235760
>People who like 00 tend to like Seed, because they're into prettyboysOr something
Yeah God forbid for some /m/ people to like 00 because of its interesting storyline. Or Seed because it does something different with Gundam and doesn't have shit characters. No it's not possible, we must all put ourselves at 90s so we can get fucked by UC talibans. Did I get it right ? When it comes to Gundam /m/ is a fucking intellectual wasteland.
>>14235784
of course they weren't confirmed dead dumbass, I'm saying they should have gone all the way and actually killed them. Harem man has plenty of waifus already anyways.
>>14235741
Just because you hated it doesn't mean it's a bad entry series, there are lots of people who have watched IBO as their first Gundam and enjoyed it. It's pretty clear judging by sales and internet reactions that IBO is much more liked that Age, Try and Reco both in Japan and the West. Try to deny it as much as you want, but it's the truth.
>people survive death like hits
>long as the "light" doesn't leave their eyes
so....Gali and Ein confirmed alive?
Dropped the ball towards the middle but picked it up again in time for the ending.
Good enough in my book mildly interested in what S2 brings.
>>14235801
>IBO is much more liked that Age, Try and Reco both in Japan and the West.
AGE never made it to the west and G-reco is coming sometime in the future.
IBO is actually getting attention in the states, with a dub AND airing on the popular toonami. AGE and GReco never got such attention so obviously more people would know it and be "more" popular
>>14235792
the fact that they couldn't even kill off two women, something that even trash like seed and age could do, really killed my opinion of it.
>>14235812
age was never shy killing people
>>14235801
>Falling for weak bait
I'd like to point out that the reverse is just as true. It doesn't really matter how many people like something, in can still be bad regardless, e.g. Naruto, CoD, etcetera.
Claiming otherwise is just ad populum.
When did /m/echa turned into /m/asochism?
So many people wishing some characters were brutally offed Jesus.
>>14235822
trainwreckfags
>>14235791
>God forbid for some /m/ people to like 00 because of its interesting storyline. Or Seed because it does something different with Gundam and doesn't have shit characters
>>14235822
yeah I noticed that, like in this post >>14235812
I mean jeez man, its just a show, also, they fucking killed prettiest grill didn't they?
>>14235801
>that IBO is much more liked than G-Reco in Japan
Uh, sir? We've seen a poll from Nippon that found 54.2% of it's respondents thought G-Reco was the better show. Not to mention how IBO's DVD/Bluray sales have dropped to around the same level as G-Reco's despite having way more Vol 1 sales. Not to mention how the show's ratings fell to some pretty damning lows despite the Sunday evening timeslot and was often mocked for being lower than a late night anime's (including G-Reco).
>>14235832
>I mean jeez man, its just a show, also, they fucking killed prettiest grill didn't they?
Wasn't Carta, Ein and Gali-Gali all pretty popular in Japan? How is the fact they're all (probably) dead going to affect season 2's performance?
>>14235852
new villains, probably in space, I mean fuck, is S2 just gonna be more
>TEKADDAN FIGHTS SPACE ASSHOLES
>>14235832
>carta
>best girl
>>14235852
They'll introduce their twin brothers and sisters don't worry.
>>14235858
No no, I said prettiest, not best.
Best grill aslo died tho...
>>14235726
I don't know how you could make that mistake.
>>14235832
I can't believe the antagonists in this show are so lame. She was a joke from start to finish and Ein was even worse. Gaelio and Mcgills dumb childhood drama was weak.
>>14235852
I could see gali coming back but yeah season 2 will have to have new baddies. cause chocochar can't be in it every episode.
hopefully new villains are much better than Carta and more entertaining that "killing kids is okay" Ein.
>>14235854
Season 2 will tell the story of the return voyage to Mars. Once Kudelia-Sugoi-Sama sets foot on the red planet THE END. 25 episodes of nothing with maybe 1 or 2 fights just to shut up /m/ that expects a mecha show.
This is for posterity : Aldnoah.Zero is better than IBO. Even the fucking stupid second season of aldnoah.zero will end up being better than the second season of IBO.
>>14235832
>carta
>anything but a team rocket tier comedy villain
Wow shocking death so brutal much sad
She died the same way she lived, like a goddamn joke
>>14235860
What I find funny is that from day one, people were saying Fumitan, Biscuit, and Orga would die. And thus far 2/3 of them are dead and those are the ONLY deaths out of Tekkadan's main cast.
I mean Biscuit is basically in that Musashi/Piggy archetype as the fat guy that will sacrifice himself, and Fumitan was the selfless maid who, while a turncoat, sees her mistress as more important in the end. Orga pretty well fits the role of the hero's best friend/moral support who dies eventually and that could still happen.
It's just... so predictable.
It is a mediocre show (by anime standards) but it is really dragged down by how dull it can be, the heavy exposition, kudelia and the QUALITY. Also fucking this >>14235657
>>14235601
>Atra gets eaten by a dingo
Every timeeven though I wrote it myself
>>14235665
>what really grinds my gears is how one-sided they all end up being.
This really annoyed me cause they kept going on about muh poor so hard orphan life, but 2 episodes in they are free, get two invincible gundams, are backed by a huge mafia who are super nice, suffer minimal casualties and a called heroes by everyone. It creates a huge rift between what is said and done
>>14235877
Don't try so hard man
Long as season 2 has actually more than 4 mech fights, I'll be fine.
>>14235883
That's what endeared her I think. She was comic relief and then suddenly she got a long, bloody, drawn out death by a thousand cuts. A clown that suddenly meets a tragic end really tends to get to people - that's what happened with Robin Williams, that's what Rigoletto and Pagliacci hinge on. It's only funny until it's not.
Doesn't make her a good character, just the reaction is understandable.
>>14235674
>would you say though, that, this is a good series to show someone that doesn't know much about gundam, and you don't want to tell them to head straight into 0079 or Zeta, cause the old animation might offput them?
No. 08th Team, 00 and maybe BF and thunderbolt
IBO is more likely to bore people
>>14235905
you see, I don't think UC series are a good starting point, you miss so much by not knowing context behind certain things going on which, while not making the enjoyment of a series negative, does limit its enjoyment.
>>14235832
reminder they also coped out on killing her when mika was so distracted by one death he let an enemy he had in his jaw escape
>>14235870
The worst part is see was a joke villain that took all the time up for the last few episodes leaving with the awkward jump in the last ome
It's a daring show (having no mech fights at all on many episodes is unheard of from a gundam show) but it's only really good near the end when there's non stop fighting and the classical gundam stuff, so while it tried to be different, that difference kept it from being as good and exciting as it should have been
Still much better than g-reco.
>>14235911
Going into 08th or thunderbolt all you need to know is earth vs space people who want independence. They can have a perfectly good time with just that knowledge
>>14235810
>the popular toonami
Kek
>>14235911
But the point isn't context. The point is to hook. If they like it they can go back to the start and get the context, but they aren't going to stick with it if you can't hook them somehow. That's the same mistake Sunrise made trying to bring Gundam to the states - they hooked people on Wing, but then they tried to immediately push 0079 rather than continuing to build with X or G.
I mean yeah, it was a block running Sailor Moon and DBZ and freaking Robotech but 0079 is even older than all of those, AND THEN 911 HAPPENED.
>>14235877
I'm not surprised the show spent so much time on her and built up her speech to be this monumental event and in the end all she saws is the obvious, queue a bunch of old farts looking depressed in her sugoi presence and profound wisdom
>>14235925
KUDELIA SUGOI
Seriously though, her speech was embarrassing. How shallow can she be?
>>14235905
Normalfags have a longer attention span than the average mechafag they'll be fine.
>>14235929
But Fumi saw that she has the power to do stuff with her deep meaningful words and she was wrong to betray kudelia because....um......you she after she ran off she.......kudelia learnt that.......people are poor not just on mars and that is bad too?
>>14235938
>kudelia learnt that.......people are poor not just on mars and that is bad too?
When you say it like that, you realize how poor her development was.
>>14235925
Remember her speech about the Dort workers? Remember how it appearently caused them to finally have their demands met? My god, what a wasted opportunity.
Have Gjallarhorn use security footage from the hangar of the Dort workers firing upon soldiers trying to arrest them for having smuggled weapons. Maybe even have Tekkadan's involvement highlighted. Use this to discredit Kudelia's "they did nothing wrong" speech, while giving Gjallarhorn a legit reason to go after her and Tekkadan that the people could get behind.
What ends up happening is the show raises it's steaks, shows off moral ambiguity and gives Kudelia a way to keep growing as a character rather than now she can give idealistic speeches (which she did before the show.)
Fuck. And Octobeard gets away with his bullshit.
> Lies to Martian activist, telling her to come to Earth to negotiate independence.
> She has to hire child-soldier mercenaries as bodyguards. A number of them die as a result.
> She gets there and he's all "Nope, I have no power. I just want you to give a speech so I can get reelected after I resigned from my position due to a bribery scandal. And I want your bodyguards too.
> Sees nothing wrong with using the child soldiers. Even agrees with Mika's methods.
> Causes Edmonton to be under siege for 3 days.
> Elected back into office.
He's a major contributor to all the death and destruction that went on, but nope. Nothing wrong with him at all.
>>14235929
They really want us to understand she's not the same naive sheltered girl she was at the start by showing us how naive and sheltered she is in her climactic moment.
>>14235946
Her speech was so weak as well, it was a baseless claim from the leader of the enemy who has no real power. Most don't even know what she looks like apart from one guy in the crowd of people who are in love with her. She didn't even know what she was on about, the only things she knew of the place was from the camera crew (who just suddenly decided fuck this lets board a rebel shit in the middle of a battle) and at the time she was just super confused and more focused on her dead hand maiden. Someone who has read the blurb of the prince could get a scheme going on her. But instead the dort workers get 100% of their demands in what at best was a few days
IBO is one of those shows when if you watch it passively it is okay but then you start to think about aspects and it is just horribly written unless you accept a lot of bollocks the writers clearly did not think about
>>14235946
Octobeard was practically the villain of the first season but the show paints the whole situation so nobly and without any nuance. Even though there's so much material to use against Kudelia the show never does anything with it.
>>14235974
Classic Gundam
>>14235974
Found the retard.
>>14236017
I'd contrast Kudelia with how Tomino's UC handles Char. There's this huge conflict between the myth of Char (heroic freedom fighter with a master plan to save the spacenoids) and who Char actually is (a somewhat petty guy who has no idea what he's doing outside of piloting mobile suits and betraying people).
Kudelia could have been an interesting character if she was handled well. The tragedy of IBO is that it could have been good but started pissing away all its potential once they left for Earth.
>>14235974
All the magic happens off-screen.
IBO likes to tell rather than show; as far as what they show, especially in the middle of the series, tends to be stuff that's incumbent on other actions & development that happened between episodes or scenes. Kudelia getting her shit together (twice) is the most prominent example, but the battles against the Brewers and others rely on the same bullshit. In another show with another director, watching Mika slog it out with OG Gusion would have been great.
>>14235974
Didn’t the producer or director said in an interview that he believe Tekkadan weren’t doing the right thing but it was important for the audience to not think they were wrong or something like that?
That stupid notion could explain why they keep showing some really questionable people and somehow the show behaves like they are all cool and good in hope Tekkadan doesn’t feel like a bunch of idiots
I absolutely loved that the series didn't have any beam weaponry and was ballistic projectiles and solid weaponry. Series is easily 8/10. People that didn't like the show probably prefer Bayformers action fests.
>>14235892
I swear to fucking God, that picture actually makes me want to buy the kit.
>>14236090
I like what he's saying, but its written like bait
>>14235780
Actually one that bothered me was we never see a single onscreen mobile worker pilot death from Gjallarhorn. We love to make fun of Windam only kill being a shield. But watching ibo disappointed me in the mook death cutins from Gjallarhorn for a series that promised visceral gritty combat.
Guess Okada did a good job not glorifying the kills Tekkadan made against Gjallarhorn nobodies.
>>14236080
For me that’s the tragedy in IBO, it could have been great the universe and the setting were interesting but somehow it manage to be extremely bland and poorly done its sad, not to mention there is so much quality I’m not sure how big the budget was for this show
>>14236088
I wish they'd developed that a bit more. Behind the scenes they were untrained mutilated child soldiers supported by space mafia and occasionally committing mass murder, but on the news they look like a bunch of noble freedom fighters. They could have done a lot more with that.
>>14235870
daily reminder that Carta is the MVP of not zeon by scoring the only meaningful kill on tekkaden.
thats how lame this villian group is.
>>14235822
i'm not saying everyone should die, but having one or two non main characters dying too much to ask for to raise drama?
I honestly want season two to go full Destiny-tier trainwreck, just to see the threads.
>>14236246
>only meaningful kill on tekkaden.
Seeing as it didn't do jack-shit to Tekkadan's war effort in any way - Biscuit's loss could've been reflected in supply fuckups or Gjallarhorn finding gaps in their strategy - it wasn't meaningful at all. Biscuit was not Ryu; Ryu had a clear and important relationship with Amuro & Bright, and there were inferred relationships to the other characters. Having everyone lose their shit when he died worked because it bettered them. Tekkadan just doubled down on the slaughter after Biscuit's death because, you know, that's what the peace-loving fatass that's concerned about peoples' health and well-being would've wanted.
>>14235791
>Yeah God forbid for some /m/ people to like 00 because of its interesting storyline
But the prettyboys are far more important than some sand rebel nonsense
>>14236246
>unironically asking to kill off main characters, especially from a country that doesn't know how not to be laughably melodramatic
No protagonist-side character on this show has come close to earning a good death yet.
>>14236246
Wasn't Biscuit's death an accident, too?
>>14235674
It worked for me. I got my little brother into mecha anime that way. He wants to get a Barbatos tattoo now, though.
>>14236273
Battle of Edmonton was a meatgrinder. Even with the new Teiwaz Mobile Workers they ran outta ammo and warm bodies during the fight on James McDonald Bridge (Yes I actually looked it up and it looked exactly like James McDonald Bridge). Biscuit would have figured out a way to cause the breakthrough and even that battle was only barely won because 2nd Corps came in to help and McGillis lending a hand.
Fuck if Carta didn't let her pride get her killed, Galileo and Carta would have swept Tekkadan's MS team since McGillis can't want to get involved.
>>14235665
>who are all generic anime characters with the possible exception of Mika
Mika is no exception actually.Stoic Characters archetype is older than closed eyes
>>14235918
>It's a daring show (having no mech fights at all on many episodes is unheard of from a gundam show)
Or ,doing anything at all.
>>14236162
I got the impression that the unit involved with this series was sunrise's B team, with most of the talent working on other projects at the time
>>14235519
I didn't like it. I thought it was decent for a while, even as /m/ was shitting on it relentlessly. Then once they got to the Dort colonies, and there were four episodes in a row without any mobile suits, I lost hope. Even apart from the lack of action, there was no tension or excitement throughtout the whole show. Probably the slowest-paced mecha anime I've seen yet.
I sure do like the MS designs, though. I build the gunpla and pretend they came from an awesome, action-packed show instead.
>>14236075
>how_americans_try_to_draw_SD.jpg
>>14235519
>but uni work got tough so I had to put it back.
wish that uni work had gotten tough for long time so that we would had been spared from the rest of the bait.
Is Ein the greatest Jobber of all Gundam?
>>14236820
come on now
>>14236273
This is something I hope they touch upon in season 2, how Orga is putting Tekkadan into more dangerous positions to impress Mika but without Biscuit to temper him. Start seeing some of the kids getting maimed or dying because of the riskier routes and jobs they've taken. Even have some of them question Orga's leadership as a result.
>>14236088
That was the director, who seems to be a weak link in this production. Wasn't part of the original plan that people wouldn't trust Tekkadan because they're seen as nothing more than a bunch of amoral mercs, and Kudelia is ostracized for her connection to them. That would have been interesting, and a means to explore war being hell.
But instead, they're treated as "knights" and "heroes."
>>14236463
But anon, how many protagonists have a goal of growing fat?
>>14235657
Is there a more pathetic rival in the franchise? Even Jerid and Chronicle managed to snag a few kills.
>>14236841
At least Sleggar actually got on-screen kills and accomplished something meaningful.
>>14235897
Lack of mech fights is alright if the fights that do show up are really well done. Problem with IBO is there was hardly any justification for not having them since nearly all the scenes without them were just exposition dumps or drama that went fucking no where and the fights were poorly animated with shaky cam shots up the ass to hide there was nothing going on screen most the time.
>>14236075
I really wanna know what was going through Liefeld's head when he drew stuff like that.
>>14237048
Does Ein even count a a rival?
Mika only gave him a time of the day in the ending but even then he BTFO'd him like anyone he killed up to that point.
Kamille's rivalry with Jerid was also one-sided but he still at least acknowledged Jerid was on his ass 24/7.
>>14237048
Cheer up, you killed that mobile worker taking a pot shot at you.
Do we know anything about the behind the scenes of this show? It almost feels like they rushed it out or they had to rewrite most of it after episode 3 attracted controversy.
>>14236841
Based Sleggar not only stole Mirai from both Bright and her fiance by slapping the shit out of her but also managed to help Amuro in defeating the Big Zam through a noble sacrifice.
>>14237093
He was gunning after anyone piloting Crank's MS. The thing is he was actually close to killing Shino if Galileo's life wasn't in danger.
>>14235897
>>14237083
The thing is there were fights in roughly half the episodes. They just weren't all memorable, and they weren't evenly spread. So you get three episodes of no mech fights, that's most of a month in airtime.
>>14237092
> Oh boy, I can't wait for kids everywhere to play with Rob Liefeld's Shaft. Rob Liefeld's Shaft may not have any superpowers, but it can get the job done just fine. Really, Rob Liefeld's Shaft is something kids need to see, that's why Youngblood needs a cartoon. And video games. I'll just rip off enough popular characters and before you know it, Rob Liefeld's Shaft will be seen across the country.
>>14237096
Nah. In the background of the last episode you can see the pilot of that mobile worker crawl out of the wreck. But because he wasn't female or a fuccboi he didn't get any animation.
>>14237163
>Can't even kill unnamed background characters
Christ, even the Brewers got kills.
I like IBO. It was a bit slow in the middle and finale was a big let-down, but I still give it a solid 7/10.
BTW, I just learned that manga spin-off about Gundam in fedora was translated:
http://bato.to/comic/_/comics/kidou-senshi-gundam-tekketsu-no-orphans-gekkou-r18729
>yfw Carta could have just destroyed the tracks before the fight and stopped Tekkadan forever
Wasted potential and dumb bitch.
>>14237441
she striked me as a green, by the book type of commander with a high sense of honor, who when confronted with an enemy that utilized highly unorthodox tactics did not know how to respond and ended up getting royaly rekt'd
>>14237441
it was like her second actual fight ever
>>14237462
>>14237467
You don't need to be a Ramba Ral to figure out something like that. Hell, it was her mission to stop a train. What is the easiest way to stop something that moves only on tracks?
Really, the fight went that way just for cheap shock value and forced drama.
>>14237473
eh, I still blame innexperience, she was willing to give them a chance at a fight, thinking that her forces being gjallahorn would come out on top, and that they would actually fight under "fair" terms.
>>14237163
Bullshit.
>>14237441
She wanted a duel, destroying the tracks would have invalidated that option, also one of her grunts try to do that when everything when to hell but he was too slow
>>14237527
>one of her grunts try to do that when everything when to hell but he was too slow
Exactly my point, they should have done it before, because that was their mission.
The duel can happen anyway, it is not like the Barbatos needs rails to fight.
>>14237473
>>14237462
Worse the whole idea was the same shit as last time just with no tekkadan death. Carta's try to do a duel and be fair and then they just get slaughtered. Only change is they don't have her being rescued from the jaws of death off screen
>>14237889
You know, I recently saw a conversation that went like this
> My sister doesn't like mecha. She thinks the machines give people too much plot armor.
> You should show her IBO. It's pretty gritty and brutal.
Yeah, give someone complainined about plot armor a series where the MC curbstomps everyone ("Barbatos, win harder"), where someone was saved from death off-screen, >>14235657 where three people thought confirmed for dead turned out to be mostly fine, and they turn a bunch of deaths into Oscar bait moments.
IBO is not as gritty as some of it's fans say. It's edgy. People keep saying politics play a big role, but they're a joke.
>>14235791
>Or Seed because it doesn't have shit characters
>>14238329
I've heard people say ibo is good for all the grunt action where they actually do stuff....
A lot of anime fans don't really understand terms or shows so just attribute things to the general feeling the show pushes. If they namedrop some philosophy it is deep, if one person dies it is mature, bloody and not afraid to kill characters
>>14236088
>Didn’t the producer or director said in an interview that he believe Tekkadan weren’t doing the right thing but it was important for the audience to not think they were wrong or something like that?
That's the same bullshit Fukuda said about Kira and Lacus after Destiny. It doesn't fucking matter when heroic music plays whenever they do shit and they are always treated as in the right.
>>14236090
But anon, the fights in IBO are the most bayformers-ish in the franchise.
>>14235519
>this is one of the best fucking gundam series I've seen, easily 8/10, was thinking of giving it a 9.
>>14235802
there are rumors that one of the new designs is a Kimaris variant
>>14235847
The poll was for 500 people. That's barely nothing. That's like asking /m/ if they liked IBO, vs ANN's audience.
TV ratings are still higher for IBO than G-Reco. DVD/Blu ray sales are still higher over all than G-Reco.
IBO is getting a season 2 which means it generated enough revenue for the production. Can't say the same for G-reco.
IBO is still having new kits made. If sales were poor, they would have stopped ages ago like G-Reco did with the final configuration, Perfect Pack.
Everything is pointing to IBO definitely being more well liked.
>>14235924
>than continuing to build with X or G
Do people not understand there's no supporting merchandise with X?
Can't build a brand with no merch
>>14236088
>Didn’t the producer or director said in an interview that he believe Tekkadan weren’t doing the right thing but it was important for the audience to not think they were wrong or something like that?
The interview said you were supposed to feel uneasy rooting for the heroes because their actions are not typically hero-like for wanting revenge.
>>14238781
>Greco flopped
>MG G-self never
Just fuck my shit up will you Bandai.
>>14238825
>Greco
>flopped
Pick one ANN
>>14238829
so why is IBO getting more kits and not G-Reco?
>>14238788
Wouldn't they have plans for X merch and kits and just stopped producing them due to low sales? They'd need to produce new merch anyway for American release. It's not like they were throwing Japanese packages on American shelves as part of their main line.
>>14237022
>But anon, how many protagonists have a goal of growing fat?
How many grains had goal to become bread?
>>14238844
Why did IBO had lower ratings than G-Reco when the former aired in a prime slot while the latter aired at a late night slot?
>>14238847
They were repackaging jp products and putting them on american shelves. So yes it would require gundam x figures (mobile suit in action) to already exist.
>>14238904
It doesnt have lower ratings bro
>>14238844
>so why is IBO getting more kits and not G-Reco
Because IBO kits are more accessible, simpler, and cheaper to print
>>14238912
It did ANN, didn't you saw all the charts posted constantly in IBO threads?
>>14238916
And even then the only kit that sold well was the Graze, all the others had warm receptions (granted though, Grazes constituited 80% of the line)
>>14237530
Look at it like this
>destroy rails
>ask for duel
>every ibo rushes you and your two other grunts because they have no reason to even listen to you since the only thing you had on them was you blocking the rails
>don't fuck up rails
>ask for duel
>ibo listens and have a fair duel with you so that you either get off the rails or they go home from loss
>don't fuck up rails
>ask for duel
>gundam frames fucks up all three of you because he was a motherfucker
>>14238829
Nigga please it flopped harder than IBO somehow
>>14238958
Sure thing ANN
>>14238945
You forgot
>destroy rails
>ask for duel
>ibo listens and have a fair duel with you
You'll say no that wouldn't work, but I can just as well say your second greentext wouldn't as they get nothing from a fair duel but a clear advantage from a full on fight and they clear the rails themselves allowing them to carry on. You tried very hard to position the problem in a certain way but failed.
However destroying the rails completes your mission even if you lose the battle cause you have fucked over their transport. You win even if you die while leaving the rails is a 50/50
Series had cool moments and some really good MS designs with my personal favorites being the Graze and Barbatos. But the weaker arcs and the cop out in the final episode really drove back my overall enjoyment of the series.
>>14239059
Well sure that could work too as could this
>don't fuck up rails
>asks for duel
>ibo accepts
>you go home and hug your mcgillis body pillow while your mcgillis lookalike fucks you in the ass because your pussy is only for real mcgillis, waiting for duel date with some orphan
>ibo just leaves while you spend the night doing weird kinky mcgillis shit
You and I know destroying the rails would stop ibo, but look at this from Carta's view and remember all the other silly bullshit Carta tried in her little time being alive. Carta is a dumbfuck, if it was Galigali, I would have expected the rails to be blown up with the train still going forward. If this was McGillis, the rails would be gone long before the Ibo even got to that location.
>>14239161
>You and I know destroying the rails would stop ibo
so it is the best plan to stop tekkadan
>Carta is a dumbfuck
That is a terrible excuse, you'd have to be even more monumentally stupid that she was anyway as if you ask anyone how do you stop a train the first thing they say is fuck up the rails. Hell they were blocking the track so they hard clearly made the connection that to stop a train you use the tracks in some way, they were literally a hair from the idea to blow up the tracks. That isn't just usual villain stupid when they charge in at a bad time it is or the other usual shit, it is just very lazy writing
>>14239176
Yeah, it was the best plan of stopping tekkadan at that time.
Carta is a dumbfuck, while a terrible excuse, IBO isn't the most well crafted thing around. From the way Carta's character seemed to work, if ibo had accepted the duel and decide to also be retarded and stayed in that same spot for a night, had the duel happened and Mika had outpaced her once again, she probably would have made an attempt on the rails just like she had to fuck biscuit when mika was pounding her ass the first fight. There is a lot of lazy writing in IBO so yeah.
These ibos man
Fuckin savages
>>14238829
Only place I see Greco being praised is /m/ and it's always these pagan fuckwaffles going on about how Greco is so gourmet and everyone who dislikes it doesn't fetishize Tomino enough.
I'll take IBO over Greco anytime. As flawed as IBO was, it broke from the killing for greater good and then crying about it trope and that made it enjoyable for me.
>>14239251
I though /m/ didn't like Greco?
>>14238781
>TV ratings are still higher for IBO than G-Reco
>DVD/Blu ray sales are still higher over all than G-Reco
>Hey guise, I know that a bunch of people dropped the series and it tanked, but because people decided to give it a shot when they had nothing better to do, it's totally more well-recieved
A more accurate description would be more recieved.
>IBO is getting a season 2 which means it generated enough revenue for the production. Can't say the same for G-reco.
It was probably already in production while S1 was running, just like Biscuit beach towels and just like the dub announced on day 1. Additionally, G-Reco is now being brought over to the west and a movie is supposedly in production. Tomino personally chose not to direct a second season anyways.
>IBO is still having new kits made
Yeah, those Graze variants sure are cool, huh. Delicious no grades, too.
>>14239265
A good chunk of /m/ hates it but there's a minority that swears by it.
Then again, there's a minority that seems to enjoy VVV so that's not saying much.
>>14239275
so its like the fags that think seed and destiny are actually good?
>>14239251
>it's always these pagan fuckwaffles going on about how Greco is so gourmet and everyone who dislikes it doesn't fetishize Tomino enough.
>Strawmanning this hard
It still only has occasional threads because there's something to discuss. I have yet to see any actual criticism of the series that isn't a blatant misunderstanding of what's happening.
>As flawed as IBO was, it broke from the killing for greater good and then crying about it trope and that made it enjoyable for me.
It also broke from the killing anything at all trope.
>Nothin personnel kid
>>14239265
Where have been for the past 2 years?
Also
>>14239251
>pagan fuckwaffles
My sides
>>14239284
/co/, /x/, /wsg/, /out/, /e/, /s/, and /k/.
/m/ used to be my fave place after I left /a/, but college and other boards drove me slightly away from it, I still come back to watch a series with /m/en every once in a while, last one I did though was a fucking shitfest, pic related
IBO its just like Getter Robo
they always kill the fat guy
>>14239278
because higher kill count equals better gundam
stay edgy, /m/
seeing Atra get beat up was somehow more grim than actual death of a character, IBO at least had that
>>14239315
>IBO its just like Getter Robo
Only spics think it's good?
Well it does make some sense...
>>14239344
doesn't mean that its good
spics think it is
>>14239344
OP here, can confrim, am spic
>>14239327
>because higher kill count equals better gundam
>Strawmanning this hard
I'll admit that was hyperbolic, but the main problem with IBO is that it tries to be gritty and cover serious subject matters, but every time it tries, it just shits all over it with poor coverage and slice of life funtimes. When characters continuously do ridiculously gutsy things and cheat death on a regular basis, it becomes even harder to take seriously. The only characters who ever died did so entirely due to pure idiot ball.
>seeing Atra get beat up was somehow more grim than actual death of a character
I would really appreciate an explanation of how a little girl getting bullied in an interrogation is somehow worse than WMDs and drifting to nowhere in the void of space.
>>14239276
SEED wasn't nearly as bad as people make it out to be. Mind you, it's not good by any means and if I ever hear the terms "phase shift armor" "Neutron jammer" or "Neutron Jammer Canceller" again I'm putting my head through my desk. I mean the last one is a double negative. It's very existence is an affront to native english speakers. But I digress.
I'm not even going to play devils advocate for Destiny, though. It was so bad that people's opinion of SEED got worse by association. Hell, some people hate 00 simply because it shared an art style with SEED.
But yes, There are people that think Destiny was great. You don't really see them anymore but they're there.
>>14239369
>I would really appreciate an explanation of how a little girl getting bullied in an interrogation is somehow worse than WMDs and drifting to nowhere in the void of space.
Because if you had even the barest hint of a parental instinct, that scene pissed you off to no end.
WMDs, on the other hand. are so big that it's kinda hard to get your head around them. Like how one person dying is a tragedy but a million is a statistic.
>>14239391
That's understandable, if biased. It's similar to how rape jokes tend to tick me off, but it's still just a joke. Honestly, it was hard to appreciate Atra's situation when A.) she was completely irrelevant to the plot outside of that scene and B.) she only got into that situation because she went full retard anyways. Pretending to be Kudelia when they stumbled onto her on pure coincidence when she's literally just a cook was ridiculous and just created a dramatic scene for Biscuit while his brother slowly starts sperging out.
Even on that scale, compared to Bernie dying in a vain attempt to rescue a colony or seeing Kamille's mom shot directly in front of him by a guy who didn't even know what he was doing, the amount of bite relative to all the bark IBO has is, again, miniscule.
>inb4 crying scene
>Like how one person dying is a tragedy but a million is a statistic.
That comes back to human bias. In reality, one death is a statistic and a million is a much larger statistic, but since everything can be boiled down to numbers anyways, statistics are important too.
>>14238398
People here on /m/ were trying to claim barbatos was a grunt mech when the show started
>>14239391
>>14239452
It's human bias on multiple levels, but that's exactly why they did it. Because it would be dramatic and tug on people's feelings even if it was retarded that no one on Dort seemed to know what Kudelia looked like despite her apparent fame.
Think about it. A bomb blows up at the Boston Marathon, killing a child and maiming a bunch of fit athletes, people all over the country are distraught. But a fertilizer plant blows up the same week, killing a bunch of senior citizens, barely a murmer. A poor child dies in an apartment fire and barely anyone notices, a couple of affluent, photogenic kids who go to the right private school die in a housefire and multiple fundraisers for the family are launched. It isn't just that humans are bad with comprehending scale, it's also that they're myopic to tragedy right around them unless it's shiny or pretty or yelled about enough.
>>14239619
>Because it would be dramatic and tug on people's feelings even if it was retarded that no one on Dort seemed to know what Kudelia looked like despite her apparent fame.
Thanks for pointing that out, I forgot to mention it.
>It's human bias on multiple levels, but that's exactly why they did it.
That's also exactly why it's a bad scene. It's existence is solely for drama and shock value. That's worse than SEED's balloon people, let alone something like the sacrificial metaphor of the Reinforce Junior.
Regarding how people don't appreciate scale, that's absolutely true. So much so that it could potentially warrant an entire Gundam series in and of itself. However, this scene did not exist for the sake of theming. It was gratuitous just like Atra's character, both as a plot tool and as a component of a tacked on mini-harem.
>>14239327
>seeing Atra get beat up was somehow more grim than actual death of a character
This would have had some effect if she weren't a literally who.
>>14238945
She just had to destroy the rails some km away from where Tekkadan was, so they wouldn't see her.
>>14239327
>seeing Atra get beat up was somehow more grim than actual death of a character,
Yeah no, I didn't give a shit and that's bullshit. Someone like Miharu was a million times more emotional than Atra. Cecelia in ZZ was sadder than Atra too. In fact, tons of deaths were sadder than a silly scene with Atra getting smacked up that had no lasting impact on the series.
>>14239697
Atra wasn't a literally who, she's had enough focus. Honestly I wouldn't have felt any more sympathy for a single other character in that show barring Biscuit's sisters and I already felt no sympathy. I think it would be more appropriate to call her a literally why.
>>14240109
This is a major problem many characters were pointless, I mean I don’t expect all the characters to be relevant, but the show behaves like all of them are important but you can replace most of them and nothing would change, yet they seems to be afraid of getting rid even of minor ones.
The producer called Atra another heroine in the show and I guess that’s true she got a character stand, but she didn't feel all that important I really thought they were going to kill her or something to create some cheap drama, they could remove her and nothing would change in Tekkadan, even the bracelet thing was kind of pointless after episode three, like it didn’t matter at all.
>>14240320
Didn't they change writers after episode 3?
>>14240348
Yes, Okada wrote the first 3 and then it started bouncing between a bunch of different people. Okada was brought back for a few others but for the most part she wasn't writing.
>>14240409
I wonder what IBO would have ended up being if it remained in Okada's hands throughout.
Think Ein wouldn't have ended up being so useless?
>>14240417
I think we had a thread about an interview where the initial direction of the show was to be headed. It sounded a lot more like what we were expecting in the first few episodes. I would have loved a full Okada show compared to what we got, at least it would have been DRAMAAAAA instead of a bunch of nothing.
>>14240429
That's way too tragic.
big question for season 2.
where is the Kimaris? is it dead, new pilot or Punished Gali going to run around 00s2 terminator Exia style?
>>14240449
Gusion was way more fucked up than the Kimaris, so I think it's safe to say that the Kimaris would make a comeback.
I'd really like a punished Gali-Gali, because he was without a doubt the best boy and the hero that show deserved, but baring that I'd take Shino or Orga in the Kimaris. The suit's mobility suits Shino, but it would also go well as a command unit for Orga. Besides, that guy abdicates responsibility to Eugene all the fucking time.
>>14240429
Does anybody have a link to that interview/thread? thanks
>>14240510
I think is this one, no idea really, found this in google:
Newtype interview today gave us a bit more insight into the original plans for IBO.
>Eugene betrays Tekkadan at beginning
>Naze betrays Tekkadan in original story
>People don't have faith in Tekkadan because they're amoral mercenaries
>Kudelia gets stigmatized for associating with them
>Story shows more of how wrong they can be
>Ein is not final boss
>S1 ends with Tekkadan suffering great losses.
>>14240557
Sounds to me then that Okada wrote the episode were Ein actually accomplishes something and then another writer wrote the following episode and was all "We can't kill off characters! This is a kid's show, for kids! The people Ein killed in the last episode actually didn't die they're aokay! See! Happy endings! Kids like happy endings."
>>14240500
>I think it's safe to say that the Kimaris would make a comeback.
better Kimaris Best gundam in IBO. maybe we'll get another form.
>booster/space version
>trooper
like a desert version, a water version, or straight up knight like one. more so than it already is
>>14240583
http://gundam.wikia.com/wiki/Comprehensive_Listing_of_Gundam_Iron-Blooded_Orphans_Episodes
Nope. Okada is just as much of a shit as any of them, despite how it seemed that the first three episodes had quite a few great details.
>>14240611
Depends, how are the Kimaris units selling?
>>14235519
Anyone got a link to the soundtrack?
>>14240625
not sure. I know gali is popular going by fan art.
>>14235519
Anyone else in love with the first ED? I love how chill it made the ending of each episode.
>>14240583
I think I remember reading a tweet from her that she said Ein was supposed to die in the initial assault on the CGS base but she decided against it.
Don't ask me for source.
>>14240611
>more than it already is
>>14235519
I JUST started episode 22
Did I fucking miss something? How the FUCK did Issue escape from that situation? Mikazuki had he fucking pinned.
>>14240662
It's implied that it didn't actually pin her, just smashed her head off and Mika froze after he saw Biscuit die.
As noted here, >>14236085, IBO's flaw is that so much the important shit happens off-screen during commercial breaks (or between episodes) that suspension of disbelief is jarred from the sudden developments.
Can someone explain to me why Kudelia is such a big deal? I still don't get it. It's not like she is some kind of princess. She is literally just a girl calling for change. The show tries to make he seem like a big deal and gives her fancy titles like "The Maiden of Revolution" but you're never given any reason to lead you to think she is someone important and worth of this trouble.
>>14240636
ORUPHAAAANS
NAMIDAA
>>14240652
well you know Kimaris needs more knightly stuff.
>>14240687
There was this meeting once. She spoke up. Gave a speech, probably during a gap in the proceedings so nobody gave a shit. Problem is they probably had the C-SPAN going, and she got noticed by the Earth elite and the Martian scum. To one, she was a threat, to the other she was someone that finally "got them". Then some other elites decided they could gain power by shifting the overall power-balance and taking advantage of the temporary vacuums it would create.
Those elites are represented by Makanai; who, incidentally, was the dude she was corresponding with (although probably through his aides) when she decided to first go to Earth and contract CGS. Then he got exiled and they accidentally landed on his Australasian island home. Because fate. Only they never really mentioned him directly in the beginning, and they never made a big enough deal of finding this guy by pure dumb luck in the final act.
It's all so sloppily done.
>>14235519
It's shit. God damn, Fucking Gundam Seed has more actual mecha fights in it. You could probably compress all the actual scenes where mecha's are actually fighting into less than one episode. That shit ain't right.
It would be fine if it were one of those Mecha series like Code Geass where they at least had interesting or fun characters so it didn't matter if 3 god damn episodes went by without any actual giant robot shit in them, but no. Aside from the protagonist they're all terrible. I swear to god if the last episode was them all getting captured and having the shit slapped out of them for a solid 15 minutes I would love this series forever. I hated, HATED these stupid, stupid god damn people.
Also, as a Canadian, fuck this series. It's one thing to say we would one day join the US, but who's fucking idea was it to put the capital building on fucking Edmonton? FUCKING EDMONTON. Not Toroto. Not Ottowa. Not Vancover. No, stick it in the middle of god damn Alberta. Are you fucking serious? Jesus Christ what the hell were these people thinking? There is nothing in Edmonton. FUCKING NOTHING. It's the putting the US capital in Minnesota or some shit. What were these stupid fucks thinking?
God, the more I think about this series the more I GOD DAMN HATE IT. FUCK THIS SHOW.
BTW, do yourself a favor, if you are Canadian go read "We Stand On Guard" by Brian K. Vaughan. If you want some real good shit with Mecha's set in Canada go read that. God damn awesome.
>>14240756
>It's one thing to say we would one day join the US, but who's fucking idea was it to put the capital building on fucking Edmonton?
Bro, we don't join the US, the US gets annexed by Latin America. We annex Alaska, lose the Maritimes, and anschluss with Russia.
Edmonton is still a retarded location though; Hongcouver or Vladivostok would make more sense for this unholy union.
>>14240756
Oh, BTW, the mecha designs are sweet. They're awesome. Don't let that trick you into watching this terrible show. It's like watching a woman breast feed for 5 minutes so you can see 2 seconds of boob. You feel like stupid piece of shit for doing so, and you damn well deserve to.
>>14240627
Anyone?
>>14240782
>It's like watching a woman breast feed for 5 minutes so you can see 2 seconds of boob
weird analogy
>>14240781
>we don't join the US, US gets annexed by Latin America
>US gets annexed by Latin America
>Latin America
WHA THE FUCK? FUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCK YOU JAPAN! FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU!!!
>>14240793
No, but I can sing it.
RAISE YOUR FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAG
ORUFAAAAAAAAAAANSS NAMIDAAAAAAAAAAA
>>14240806
calm down faggot, there's nothing that states that
>>14240756
>Fucking Gundam Seed has more actual mecha fights in it
*stock footage fights
>>14240822
eh that is the question which is the lesser of two evils? Stock footage or no footage?
I guess Wing had terrible stock footage but it didn't hurt watching like destiny levels of stock footage.
>>14235519
It was the worst mecha show I've ever finished.
I probably wouldn't have received it anywhere as negatively if I hadn't genuinely enjoyed the first 7 episodes and wasn't really excited for the show when it was announced.
Before they met up with the Turbines crew I loved the series, and repeatedly called anyone who complained about the slow pace an ADHD retard who can't keep his attention if there aren't flashing lights on the screen.
Then the Brewers arc happened. Ridiculously overblown villains, absurdly contrived situation with Akihito and his brother and a whole bunch of wasted time really put a dent in my enjoyment of it.
Then the Dort arc happened and I started outright hating the show.
The plot of IBO is bad, the characters are worse. The animation is hilariously bad. The OST is decent I'll give you that. And the few times the battles aren't choreographed like shit they're reasonably good too.
But really, if this didn't have the gundam name stuck on it most people would've dropped it 12 eps in and it would be talked about as often as something like Nobunaga the Fool
>>14240808
>>14240806
It's almost certainly the case though.
Just think about these four groupings of clay and their current population figures.Now imagine what kind of holocaust bullshit would need to happen for these pieces of clay to become relatively equal powers.
It's pretty obvious that all the industrialized powers got mauled and the semi-developed third-worlders came in like vultures.
>>14240840
>>It was the worst mecha show I've ever finished.
Leave it to /m/ to find a way to make any show the worst thing ever. Can't wait until next season when you're calling the next thing worse then Hitler.
The only character who had anything to do with the grey morality they wanted to show was Savarin and they offed him after what, three episodes?
>>14240793
>google Gundam Iron Blooded soundtrack download
>first thing to pop up
http://www.mediafire.com/download/hyubqte81dxc5e8/OW-MBSTIBORPHOSTD01.zippassword is senseiow
>>14240851
No, it's legitimately the worst mecha show I've ever finished for the reason of me usually dropping shows that aren't enjoyable. This was a gundam so I kept giving it the benefit of doubt like an idiot.
I'm still going to watch the second season though, because I think it can even surpass Destiny at the rate it's going.
>>14240835
>>I guess Wing had terrible stock footage but it didn't hurt watching like destiny levels of stock footage.
Instead literally everything else besides the mechs were shit.
Man Wing was terrible.
>>14240863
>because I think it can even surpass Destiny at the rate it's going.
thats a bold statement sir.
>>14240857
>going on reddit
>>14240845
More like the world powers needed to find cheap labor. China sold all theirs off to Europe while they took in India, Aussies piggybacked. US took in all the Latin countries because why the hell not. Also Europe and Middle East are already on pretty good terms lately so that's a given :^)
>>14240863
How can IBO be the worst you've ever finished yet it hasn't surpassed Destiny yet you fucking baka?
>>14240857
>he actually clicked a reddit linkThank you. Everything I was searching didn't get any results.
>>14240873
hey its what he wanted.
>>14240874Well that because I haven't watched Destiny yet :^)
>>14240884then you don't know what you're talking about, I'd rather watch IBO twice over than sit through Destiny again
why we using spoilers?
>>14240863
>because I think it can even surpass Destiny
Calm down son, lets not say things we can't take back.
>>14240916
I wouldn't say she had much focus, she was mainly a cheerleader for the character with central focus(Kudelia) and to be the 2nd love interest. She was incredibly insignificant.
>Ein survives
so How pissed would everyone be?
What was the point in Carta? She was a boring joke of an antagonist, not threatening at all, and waste several episodes doing nothing but jobbing. You know whats not interesting? Watching the main character blatantly stomping the same character's face in for 3-4 straight episodes.
![[EG]ZZ_Gundam_BD_09_Resub(720p)[A42C9CB0].mkv_snapshot_17.59_[2015.12.11_20.22.45].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/zVDfS5A.jpg "[EG]ZZ_Gundam_BD_09_Resub(720p)[A42C9CB0].mkv_snapshot_17.59_[2015.12.11_20.22.45].jpg")
>>14240933
Post rare glems or end your fucking life
>>14240965
to expand upon Gali's suffering.
>>14240863
Damn son.
>>14240970
>>14240662
Same person here, just started ep 24. Literally what the actual FUCK is going on? Everyone is injured? Why does it feel like every time im starting a new episode that I missed an episode?
>>14240965
>What was the point in Carta?
Carta's significance is best understood relative to the McGillis/Gaelio plotline, and the general Gjallarhorn power structure. She's the only child of the most powerful house; her wardship is what put McGillis' father over the top in terms of power. Taking her out of the equation sows discord within Gjallarhorn, and it's an extra bit of pain for Gaelio.
Her episodes, however, were dogshit and almost entirely pointless.
>>14240965
Isn't that what Amuro did in ALL of MSG though? Amuro never once struggled and every single opponent he faced was killed with a single shot from his pay2win blaster rifle.
>>14240988
scene transitions in this aren't very good. this is why everyone is confused about Gali's Fate.
>>14240988
I felt the same way. The pacing is all fucked up in this show, it really feels disjointed like they didn't really have a plan.
>>14240998
>Amuro never once struggled
Did we even watch the same show?
>>14240851
IBO is, undoubtedly, THE worst Gundam series and quite possibly one of the worst mecha show to ever air on TV.
Until the next Gundam series that is.
