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Post suits, discuss favorites and things you like about them, things you'd like to see/directions you'd like to see them take in the future.
>>14221164
DONK DONK DONK DONK DONKDONKDONKDONK YOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>14221186
>>14221191
Bleeding Edge is sex
>>14221209
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>>14221219
So glad the stealth suit concept art from IM1 became canon
>>14220254
>>14220446
(from last thread)
Man Captain America fanboys are so weird. Do they even realize they insult themselves by trying to downplay Iron Man? If they try to argue that that the armor is weak, then it only reduces the feat of breaking the armor by Captain America.
If they try to argue that Captain America is just THAT strong, then it downplays Thor and Hulk, and makes it all sound absurd for Captain America. He's not on Iron Man's level combat wise. He was never meant to be, and it was clear in the movie that Tony wasn't trying to kill Captain America (even though he had plenty of opportunities to do so). Sure Cap somehow busted the helmet open, but Cap had so many factors playing in his favor that I just accept it as a unique situation, and a one-off.
Steve Rogers is meant to be an inspirational leader who never gives up; especially in the face of overwhelming odds. He's not perfect, and he has his flaws, but he does what he thinks is right (sometimes to a fault). That's the real point, and my take-away from the movie.
>>14221261
that suit is so grimey. Doesn't Tony ever wash his suits?
>>14221378
>Steve Rogers is meant to be an inspirational leader who never gives up; especially in the face of overwhelming odds. He's not perfect, and he has his flaws, but he does what he thinks is right (sometimes to a fault). That's the real point, and my take-away from the movie.
Amen.
>>14218847
I've noticed a lot of people like the Mk IV a lot. Personally I always kinda glazed over it. I thought it was not as iconic as the III was, what with being the first suit in the classic colors; with the sleek form. Not as different as the VI, with the dynamic angled shapes and big blocky look. It was just kind of there to me, in the middle. Any reason why people prefer it over other suits?
Also going back its almost weird how different the MKIII looks. It feels way closer to Adi Granov's style than latter versions.
>>14221573
>I've noticed a lot of people like the Mk IV a lot.
Oh, that's me! Me!
>Personally I always kinda glazed over it.
Understandable. It doesn't really get much of a chance to shine. Its big intro, when the movie starts, is for it to be removed. Sorta underwhelming. It's really only showcased in the fight with the MkII, which isn't the most endearing situation.
>I thought it was not as iconic as the III was, what with being the first suit in the classic colors; with the sleek form.
True, the III was the first in the classic colors. However, the IV was actually the LAST in the classic colors -- lots of grays, blacks, and silvers got added in more and more with later suits.
>Not as different as the VI, with the dynamic angled shapes and big blocky look.
Actually, they're the exact same design, with only one non-coloring difference between the IV and the VI: the VI has a triangular RT array, while the IV has a circular one. All of the other differences are in the colors. This is easy to miss, as people tend to notice colors more than fine details -- especially in movies as fast-paced as Marvel flicks.
>It was just kind of there to me, in the middle. Any reason why people prefer it over other suits?
I like how it refined and perfected the look of the MKIII, still solid and armor-like, bit more "complete" as an overall design. It has the classic colors in the best proportions and arrangement, and the chest RT array is circular -- as it should be. And while I like the looks of the later armors too, they are more intricate, more panel lines, three or more colors... just more busy, and thus less tough-looking.
For reference, here's the IV and the VI side by side.
>>14221164
Why doesn't Tony make a vibranium suit? Seems like there is enough vibranium lying around after Age of Ultron.
>>14221173
MKV is my favorite, I love the lightweight design and the "henshin" sequence for it.
>>14221890
As someone said in the previous thread it would be incredibly dangerous for him, vrbranium discharges the kinetic energy around it self but thanks to the way the suit is made it would end up discharging on itself and exploding the moment he was attacked by something strong enough
>>14221785
>they're the exact same design, with only one non-coloring difference between the IV and the VI: the VI has a triangular RT array, while the IV has a circular one. All of the other differences are in the colors.
Even clearer here.
>>14222029
If that's true then why didn't Ultron Explode when he got hit really hard by Thor? Thor hits cap's shield and big explosion. Thor hits vibranium ultron = no explosion.
>>14222037
>>14221785
Damn I can't believe I never noticed this. The color scheme on the VI is way better though, the silver highlights on it and the Mk VII make them the best suits.
>>14221890
Because that's MCU Black Panther's gimmick.
>>14221186
Can Kamen Rider beat Iron Man? If Cap can beat Iron Man then Kamen Rider stands good chance too yes?
>>14221573
Man, the Mk III looks dated now. I guess it has been 8 years...
>>14222689
Ichigou? Probably not.
>>14222103
And his gay ass claws
>>14222720
Don't you be talkin' shit about my husbando.
>>14222689
Don't compare Kamen Rider to Captain America. Those low rent Iron Men don't even come close. Bunch of pretty boys in plastic armor who have emotional dilemmas and whine about killing people each episode. If Captain America had Kamen Rider's powers he would do so much better with it. But Captain America doesn't have it because he doesn't need it because he stands up without powers at all to all those who oppress freedom like Iron Man and his team of traitors. Pretty Boy Kamen Rider shouldn't be compared to an actual hero like Captain America who fought actual Nazis. AND GUESS WHAT japanese too. I know the japanese love to pretend ww2 didn't happen and they magically got bombed outta no where but Captain America was against them too so I would appreciate it if you didn't compare Kamen Rider pretty boy in the same category as a real hero like Steve Rogers.
>>14222755
So Cap would be a Showa Rider? They had problems but didn't let it become their everything, except when their problems were about murdering the people who transformed them into karate bugmen or killed their parents or something
>>14222724
Im just saying that giant panther mountain/statue better move around and wreck shit in his movie
>>14222755
>this much salt about something that isn't a topic of discussion in this thread.
>trying this hard to derail the thread
nice try faggot.
>>14222755
>>14222765
Some showa riders had issues...
>>14221378
>Steve Rogers is meant to be an inspirational leader who never gives up; especially in the face of overwhelming odds. He's not perfect, and he has his flaws, but he does what he thinks is right (sometimes to a fault). That's the real point, and my take-away from the movie.
If only Iron Man could have a movie or comic showing how he is human nature at its best and worse... but no, fuck that, what we need is RDJ saying funny lines and Stark being used as a mere plot device or punchbag.
>>14222045
>The color scheme on the VI is way better though, the silver highlights on it and the Mk VII make them the best suits.
Your opinion is acknowledged, but not shared.
Also, those silver parts -- the munitions pods -- are optional equipment. Pic related in the Mk7 without all the extra gear.
>>14222878
>If only Iron Man could have a movie or comic showing how he is human nature at its best and worst
Uh, hello? The first Iron Man movie is exactly that.
Just saw the new Movie.
>All them hidden missiles and shit in war machine's suit
>IM Vs Cap and Bucky
>Spider man was pretty good as well
Was cool. Tony was right.
>>14222988
#teamIronman
>>14221164
>You're hurt! Quick, hide in front of me where its safe!
>>14222043
because AOU was shoddily written
seriously while fun, falls apart quickly when you think about it
The designs from the IM animated series were pretty cool
>>14223079
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>>14221219
Which is what makes the 46 so thoroughly excellent.
>>14221378
(from my failed thread)
In a cramped narrow corridor that restricts flight movement, with one broken jet boot and one broken hand repulsor, as well as when fighting with rage rather than a cool collected tactician's head, Tony gets his ass kicked by Cap.
Tony's immediate advantage of flight is nullified and by reducing his available ranged arsenal he's forced to come in close, where he can take a shield to the face. "You can't beat him in close combat!" Friday exclaims to Tony, and it takes an AI to analyze Cap's fighting style for Iron Man to get any punches in edgewise. And ultimately, he STILL loses.
It's not that Cap fans are downplaying Iron Man. It's that Tony had every advantage taken away until he was just a man. Through battle, Cap saw what you get when you take away the suit. Not a genius, playboy, billionaire philanthropist. A petty, emotionally stunted, traumatized orphan.
>>14222037
Makes me wonder why the IV even exists? Yes I know III got trashed by Iron Monger, but Tony had the Mk 1 repaired and displayed in his hall of armor. Seems to me that thematically, the Mk V should've been the Triangle, seeing as how angular the letter V and the arc reactor both are.
Also, side note but Tony synthesized an entirely new element, and that sorta just gets glossed over. Did he name it? Does he continue to use it as a fuel source? What other applications does it have other than "really really clean energy"?
>>14223079
>>14223084
are those the hulkbuster and war machine designs they actually went with for armored adventures? the madmen.
i gotta watch it now. their version of the mandarin was motherfucking sauron with 10 power rings.
>>14223192
Armored Adventures was pretty good, better than it had any right to be. I really like it's take on Pepper though, because I like hyper-active women a lot.
>>14223191
The new element has yet to be officially named. It isn't Vibranium. Tony tried to have it patented as 'Badassium' but ran into legal issues he didn't feel like dealing with.
Let's take a look at the Iron Legion. We only get info about them through secondary sources and merchandise, but what do they actually do? I'm mostly interested in which models are the most visually unique.
>Mark VIII-XIV
All of these are iterations on the Mk 7, and are visually similar. I imagine the writers did it like this so that the first nicknamed suit would be the XV because that Roman numeral looks cool. On the wiki, they are all listed as having "more weapons systems" and being faster than any previous suit. 12, 13, and 14 had a shift toward monochrome, using darker and darker metals.
>XV Sneaky and XVI Nightclub
Focused on stealth. Sneaky reduced it's radar footprint like stealth bombers and Nightclub could actually turn invisible. While technically nightclub is better at its intended function, Sneaky looks much cooler in my opinion.
>XVII Heartbreaker
First artillery suit, it uses it's large chest reactor for offense and defense, using the energy to fire blasts or make a shield. Says something about having a tesseract core (!) XVIII Casanova combined artillery and stealth tech.
If I could only get a few Hot Toys of these, I'd only go for Sneaky and Heartbreaker. More to follow.
>>14222942
Actually no, the first Iron Man is a redemption story, when he asked Pepper to hack Stark Industries he said:
> There is nothing except this. There's no art opening, no charity, nothing to sign. There's the next mission, and nothing else.
I will admit they tried to show how Stark is flawed and etc but on 2 the plot was filled with ex machinas and 3 was RDJ pulling a Johnny Depp with the whole "MUH PTSD'
>XIX Tiger
Flies at the speed of a fighter jet, can break the sound barrier making a sonic boom. Bad color scheme IMO.
>XX Python
It's called a python because of "its ability to travel long distances, mimicking the ability of a python." What? More fuel reserves, longer operational time, cooler color scheme.
>XXI Midas
Gold Mark 7.
>XXII Hot Rod
Suit is the basis for War Machine mk 2. Simple test bed and has no weapons other than repulsors.
>XXIII Shades
Made to withstand extreme heat, Shades comes with many layers of protective armor.
>XXIV Tank
High damage resistance and an artillery reactor, hence Tank.
>XXV Striker/Thumper and XXVI Gamma
A construction bot with large jackhammers. Gamma is also resistant to heat, electricity, and gamma radiation, just in case Tony needed to fill in a pot hole on the surface of Mercury.
Out of these, I'd only really want a figure of Striker. Most others are straight recolors, but the Striker is just so industrial with its gunmetal and construction yellow color scheme and imposing stature. Not to mention giant hammers.
>XXVI Disco, XXVII Jack, XXVIII Fiddler, and XXXVI Peacemaker
All of these reuse concepts from earlier models. Disco can camouflage through changing colors, Jack is radiation resistant, Fiddler is Striker/Gamma but worse, only having 1 hammer, and Peacemaker is Red Snapper without it's claws.
>XXX Blue Steel and XXXIII Silver Centurion
Blue Steel was an early Silver Centurion concept. Silver Centurion had arm blades that were featured in the movie.
>XXXI Piston, XXXII Romeo
Both had increased run time without needing recharge.
>XXXIV Southpaw and XXXV Red Snapper
Southpaw was the proof of concept, Red Snapper is the fully realized design. Resistant to natural disasters such as hurricanes and earthquakes, they were both suits made to rescue people using its exetendo grabby arms.
Outside of Silver Centurion, not really feeling this section of the Legion. Too many reused concepts, not enough innovation. And I gotta say, although the silver looks cool, the suit looks doughy and fat in the midsection.
>XXXVII Hammerhead
Made to withstand the extreme pressure of deep sea (or deep space). Comes with torpedoes for underwater combat. It's bulky design and green paintjob set it apart in a good way for me.
>XXXVIII Igor
He's a big guy, for me. It's support capabilities were shown off in the movie, but it also has brackets on its arms to brace it and support even more weight. Prototype Hulkbuster?
>XXXIX Starboost
My favorite of the Legion, this white, gold and carbon fiber suit was made for sub-orbital space travel. Comes equipped with a "concussion" cannon that is apparently different from a repulsor blast.
>XL Shotgun
Focused on pure speed, it can go Mach 5, which seems really really fast for a suit of armor.
>XLI Bones
Testing out the prehensile, moving component parts concept. I'd say this suit was meant to be remote control operated only, why else would you want to send out just a hollow arm or a leg at your enemy? Or maybe you could use them like funnels from Gundam.
This is a really cool section, a lot of wildly different concepts started cropping up. If I could, I'd get Hot Toys for every single one of these. And that's all for the Legion! I hope 1 person out there read all this and thought, "eh, whatever."
>>14222755
>Muh iron man
>Weeboo is shit
>>14223300
> And that's all for the Legion! I hope 1 person out there read all this and thought, "eh, whatever."
Can confirm that was reaction. I read the lot, with much if it being new to me since I've never read the Wiki. I find Starboost to be my favourite too, but was mostly left with a "OK" reaction after reading, since there's not much else to say. I probably disagree on 3 itself though, since I like it as a film and think it did some good work on Tony, making more conscious of and confident in his heroic qualities even without the suit. I do wish he'd gotten more comic Extremis, that Pepper had become Rescue and that he had ditched the arc heart, since it's a part of his character I like. Even with no fragments near his heart it gives him more innate power while giving him a unique element and it looks visually arresting under a t-shirt. It's a different vulnerability too.
>>14223371
Hadn't ditched the arc heart even.
>>14223371
>>14223375
I think it's really apparent in Civil War how much of a bad idea the "heart" is. Rhodey takes one shot from Vision and his suit loses all power. Despite these things being so small, he has no backups? For a guy who is meant to be flying around? What?
And then at the end, Steve slams his shield into Stark's reactor and more or less takes him out too.
Maybe it's intentional or maybe it's bad writing but it seems really stupid of Tony not to have at least some way of recovering from a bad hit like that one Rhodey took.
>>14223397
how is it bad writing for a reckless person to skip on safety measures?
>>14223397
Steve only attacked Tony's reactor because he knew it was no longer a part of him and would safely disable him. Vision's blast would have hit him for an interesting dilemma though. It's a bad hit, but presents an interesting and dramatic scenario, which is why I like it.
That said, he should have some back up. Vision's hit might have knocked out any back up systems as well if he had had them though. It was an infinity stone blast after all.
>>14223405
Still, it was a blast that was meant to just "disable" Falcon, and it fucking tore though Rhodey's suit like butter, if Rhodey had been a couple inches closer to the ground that blast would've killed him on the spot.
In short, what the fuck Vision?
>>14223412
Distracted by his robot boner. He says as much in the hospital.
He was born a blank slate but is beginning to experience feelings for Wanda he can't process. He got distracted for the first time ever.
>>14223412
The blast did no structural damage though, only overloaded the suits power. It'd have put Rhodey unconscious if it hit him directly a mist likely, not killed him via body trauma.
>>14223397
It was shown in Iron Man 1 that the suits had "emergency backup" power. It was just enough for Tony to use to land on the ground after fighting Iron Monger. This was ignored in Civil War however.
>>14223257
>XXIII Shades
>Made to withstand extreme heat, Shades comes with many layers of protective armor.
Gee Tony. I dunno. Maybe this would have been a good idea to use against those super heated extremis soldiers. Anyone care to explain why he didn't use it?
>>14223300
>deep space
>extreme pressure
>>14223187
>In a cramped narrow corridor that restricts flight movement, with one broken jet boot and one broken hand repulsor, as well as when fighting with rage rather than a cool collected tactician's head, Tony gets his ass kicked by Cap.
He also had help from Winter Soldier. That Cap was able to survive the beating he took and still come out on top doesn't take anything away from the armor's abilities. It means that the armor doesn't solve everything, which is a route that the Iron Man comics take again and again.
>>14223440
That's what I mean by "bad writing". Maybe it's harsh but it kinda ignores something that was shown earlier to get more drama out of the scene.
Really I don't understand why Rhodey didn't just die. I guess Don Cheadle has more films in his contract.
Guy is in his early 50's but he looks like he's in his early 90's.
>>14223187
>Through battle, Cap saw what you get when you take away the suit. Not a genius, playboy, billionaire philanthropist. A petty, emotionally stunted, traumatized orphan.
In fairness, though, you could also make the argument that Steve Rodgers is a still a skinny twerp with something to prove to the world. But the character flaws on display in this movie is what makes it so engaging.
>>14223463
Why could Vision's blast not have disabled the back up too out of interest? Also, Rhodey being disabled but alive is more interesting than him being dead, at least in my opinion.
>>14223465
the thing is that even when steve was a skinny manlet, he was still standing up to bullies.
he got his ass beat left and right, but he had the same moral resolve.
>>14223443
sorry, i am not a smart man. thought high pressure and the vacuum of space were the same thing.
>>14223442
because they weren't pushing Shades as the hero suit of the movie, it was the 42. and to be fair, he used the 42 to decent effect in almost killing aldritch. pepper finished him off but still.
>>14223490
Space has an equal pressure of zero all over. The undersea has Earth's gravity times X the deeper you travel. Or at least, that's my understanding. Futurama made a joke about it once, with someone asking how pressure the Planet Express ship could take before they dived underwater, and Professor Farnsworth saying it was a space ship, so between zero and one.
>>14223486
I mean it could've, that's a legit response. I'd be a bit angry if I was Rhodey though, that the suit doesn't have some kinda wholly independent system, or a way to purge the armor and use a parachute. I dunno. I'm sure you can explain/fanwank a reason as to why, but it just makes me a bit concerned for these Rolls Royce combat suits if they are deactivated so easily.
>>14223516
A blast from an Infinity Stone using robot disabling it is hardly easy. Tony himself was disabled easier, since taking out the main reactor rendered him offensively useless. He could still move if I recall, so he probably had another power source, but not one sufficient to fight with.
He's not angry because, as he said, that's the risk he knew when he signed up. Any system is vulnerable, any backup can be disabled, anything could happen. He's just accepting it and moving on, which is healthier and a better attitude than focusing on recrimination frankly.
>>14223532
I think there's also the part where you really shouldn't be taking a shot at someone if your mate is right behind him. But then again as people said, Vision was having a giant robot boner at the time so he probably didn't stop to realize that he shouldn't fire his death ray at about the same vector as both Stark and Rhodes.
>>14224048
Why'd they get rid of the shoulder pads? Trying to go for a smoother look?
>>14224048
Does anyone else think that going away from individual flying pieces to suit up (not counting hulkbuster) was a step in the right direction for Iron Man in Civil War? Maybe Tony realized that it made the suit too fragile.
>>14224142
Possibly, or maybe just because they look bad on the suit given how loose and unconvincing they are, especially in stills.
>>14224173
Again, this fan theory is a load of bullshit because while Mark 43 was physically identical to Mark 42 and shared the same suit up system, it took plenty of punishment; Ultron's lasers, blunt force trauma, smashing through large metal surfaces like they were nothing (multiple times), and by the end of the battle didn't even have any visible scratches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctw3sNIl350
Then Hulkbuster also operated on that system, and it succeeds in fend off the fucking HULK.If there's one thing I have to hand Joss Whedon, he knows how to use Iron Man in a fight.
The reason Mark 42 was so fragile probably had a lot more to do with the programming involved in managing so many complex parts at once while keeping them together. Literally every single individual piece is a transforming piece of equipment far more complex than anything Stark had built up to that point, and he seems to have perfected the tech by Mark 43 and 44.
>>14223191
>>14223220
The new element Tony made was referred to as Vibranium in... the novelization of IM2? Somewhere. Wherever it was, that's obviously been completely negated. I'm aware of the "badassium" gag, and I think some people have bandied about "Starkanium" (ugh). However, AFAIK, it's never been officially named and never really even been mentioned again. Which is a bit of a drag.
Man oh man, I love this thread. With so much Somatic Combat Vehicle goodness, all I can say is PIC RELATED.
>look for MKV toys
>hot toys for almost 400
>revoltech for almost 75
Fuuuuuuuuuuuck
>>14222988
>>14222998
The only good thing about team tony was hot aunt May
>>14225391
King Arts have put out a whole bunch of Iron Men in a short amount of time. Have you checked them out?
>1/9 scale
>200 dollarydoos
http://www.bigbadtoystore.com/bbts/product.aspx?product=KGA10033&mode=retail
>>14223465
Honestly I thought Tony deserved worse. The thing is MCU Tony Stark is basically comics Hank Pym: he's super-easy to guilt-trip and every time he feels guilty he does something colossally stupid, which other people then suffer for while he gets away scot-free.
Obviously the movie's going for the whole thing about the cycle of revenge, and does it really well, but really Tony ought to be the one with his legs busted.
>>14226164
Seeing as how the Iron Man armor is one of the things he did because of guilt I'm not sure such a blanket statement regarding them all being mistakes is wise.
>>14226201
Actually the movie itself has Vision posit the only reason so much apocalyptic shit happens is because superheroes exist.
He's obviously wrong, of course, but it does bring it up, which would make even becoming Iron Man a mistake.
>>14226164
>Honestly I thought Tony deserved worse. The thing is MCU Tony Stark is basically comics Hank Pym: he's super-easy to guilt-trip and every time he feels guilty he does something colossally stupid, which other people then suffer for while he gets away scot-free.
...Literally none of this is true. The biggest parallel with Pym you can make is that he created Ultron, and even that only went awry because Wanda fucked with his head and he used the scepter as a result.
Tony's not a guilt-case, he's a paranoid genius that's terrified of the approaching alien invasion. THAT'S what drives him to do reckless shit. Before that, the worst you could say about him is that he was a bit of a douche sometimes, but he was competent enough to back up his shit talking, so nobody really faulted him for it. Beyond Ultron, he's not really responsible for anything personally. Even Hawkeye's defiant speech toward him int eh Raft felt like a defiant child mad that he got caught breaking the law than a man wronged by Stark.
Even during Civil War, he's not necessarily wrong, he's just a personification of one side of a complex debate with no real right answer. Even the fiasco with Bucky could have been avoided if Steve had just confided in him any time after he found out.
Speaking of Wanda, what is it with the sudden influx of waifufags that are acting like she's an innocent and that Tony's such an asshole for keeping her in her room until the accords were signed so the government didn't put her in a straight-jacket? The bitch is 1/3rd responsible for the creation of Ultron, helped Ultron make a dangerous war monger a billionaire, let loose the FUCKING HULK on a civilian population just to get at the Avengers, and damn near helped end the world. She should be grateful the Avengers didn't lock her up in a raft-like prison earlier.
>>14221164
Sometimes this armor looks awesome, other times it looks like absolute garbage. What is the deal?
>>14225331
Would he even need said new element anymore, since the poisoning is no longer a factor since the reactor isn't in his chest.
>>14226473
nope, but it's probably generically more powerful than palladium based arc reactor
>>14226011
And with light up points? Damn that's really tempting.
>>14222988
Ant-Man and Spider-Man were the highlights of the movie for me, everyone else was good too though
>>14226254
In that case, Steve is the first superhero and the real cause of blame, not Tony. The Ant Man suit also existed before the Iron Man one, possibly the Black Panther one too, even if they weren't used. So did sorcery as used by the Nameless One and her students, aliens like Loki, the Chitauri and those in Guardians and so on. All of whom were bad before Tony and would have arrived regardless of him.
>>14226840
I suppose I should amend that to say that Ant Man never used his suit publicly (and possibly Black Panther too) since Pym definitely used it on secret missions and even made one for his wife to use as well. And also to say that the aliens made their move, not arrived, since those in Guardians never came to Earth.
>>14226464
>Sometimes this armor looks awesome, other times it looks like absolute garbage. What is the deal?
I guess it depends on who's drawing it.
Plus, it can shapeshift like a motherfucker, so some of its forms are gonna look better than others.
Does anyone else think bleeding edge went too far by putting the armor INSIDE his body? It made Iron Man into Iron Colossus from the X-men.
To me the suit (metal/organic/whatever) should always be mostly external to the body.
>>14227151
I think since Iron-man is a technological hero he has to move with the times to stay ahead of them, and that he needs to start upgrading himself at some point since people are already starting to design prosthetics that give them some sense of touch with neural control and give themselves new senses via simple means (magnetic sense by implanting a magnet under the skin and so on). I think a full on armor under the skin is a step too far too fast, but putting an undersuit he can use for stealth missions with minimal weapons and so on under the skin that the real suit binds too would be a good first step and could be upgraded in a few years when social technology moves on again.
>>14227188
I mean I liked Extremis a lot and thought it was a very creative direction for Iron Man. But I thought Matt Fraction took the wrong idea of it too far, and didn't add his own flair to Bleeding Edge (har har cuz he bleeds it). I mean extremis was very "ghost in the shell" for Tony, and incorporated a lot of high speed communication, and multi-tasking. The comics touched upon the idea of Tony starting to lose himself somewhat in the intricate web of communication.
But Faction only focused on the shallow aspect of the armor being stored in the body. Called it the "next evolution of extremis" (as if to leave his mark). As an author he had nothing new to say. No new commentary to add. Just "oh yea now he can totally form guns and stuff from his armor. waaaay better than extremis right guyz?"
>>14227188
>>14227210
I never really got that idea. Bleeding Edge is definitely a natural evolution of Extremis, what with the former keeping the undersheath connecting his nervous system to the suit contained in his bones; Bleeding Edge just keeps the whole thing in there, and given that he doesn't have the Extremis virus anymore, the higher functions of his post-human anatomy weren't available to him, so he used the Bleeding Edge in combination with the higher brain functions enabled by his new chest RT to compensate.
No, the step in the wrong direction came when Kieron Gillen did everything in his power to take the progress Tony had made and trashed it in favor of an armor that's essentially an MCU piece of garbage. Even the "liquid memory metal" suit up is only used once and completely forgotten about by not only other writers, but Gillen himself.
Say what you want about Bendis, at least he tried to take Tony's armor in an even more advanced direction without turning him into an iRon Man or taking dangerous shortcuts with a symbiote.
>>14228097
I personally prefer going back to the more 90s-era suits the MCU takes from simply because the shapeshifting suits are too versatile. I like it when Tony has to jury-rig something or go grab a new component to deal with a threat instead of being able to Green Lantern his way out of things.
I didn't like Tony having Extremis. Tony shouldn't have powers. Plus, he didn't create Extremis. Tony is a self-made hero, he shouldn't be getting powers from other people's biotech.
>>14228412
He didn't create Extremis but he DID modify it on the spot to give him a more intimate connection with his armor and general technopathy, so in a sense, it's still his work that enabled him to use the Extremis armor.
Underrated design.
>>14228617
I don't like when the gold overpowers the red desu.
>>14228612
The gold parts being stored in his bones and seeping out through his pores? Nnnnnno. The red parts being another layer over the gold parts? Also no. Tony having superpowers? Big no. Tony not having created Extremis? No.
All of it was and is inappropriate for Iron Man. Very, VERY glad it's gone.
>>14228725
"Transistors: more than meets the eye!"
Man, is there anything they can't do?
>>14228725
>The gold parts being stored in his bones and seeping out through his pores?
Not how it works
>The red parts being another layer over the gold parts?
Also not how it works.
The armor is both gold and red, and the undersheath is completely encased in the armor. It does not form part of the outer armor itself.
>Tony having superpowers? Big no.
He can interface telepathically with computers and has a perfect physiology resistant to all diseases. Not really a superpower so much as a post-human add on.Superior Iron Man is practically Captain America-tier without the armor, though
>Big no. Tony not having created Extremis? No.
He did create the strain he used on himself, though, and it wouldn't really be the first time Tony adapted tech that wasn't his.
>All of it was and is inappropriate for Iron Man.
Technically, what's "appropriate" for Iron Man is anything that advances the suit beyond what it was capable of before, since Tony's a man that doesn't let convention dictate his outlook on technology, so what's "appropriate" for Iron Man is "whatever the fuck Tony wants" and not "whatever stays with in the reader's comfort zone.
>>14228782
>Not how it works
Yes it is.
>Also not how it works.
Yes it is.
>He can interface telepathically with computers and has a perfect physiology resistant to all diseases. Not really a superpower so much as a post-human add on.
Oh, you mean like most of the superpowers in existence?
>Superior Iron Man is practically Captain America-tier without the armor, though.
Yeah but that's SUPPOSED to feel wrong.
>He did create the strain he used on himself, though, and it wouldn't really be the first time Tony adapted tech that wasn't his.
Still doesn't feel right, and isn't the first time the character has been mishandled.
>Technically, what's "appropriate" for Iron Man is anything that advances the suit beyond what it was capable of before, since Tony's a man that doesn't let convention dictate his outlook on technology, so what's "appropriate" for Iron Man is "whatever the fuck Tony wants" and not "whatever stays with in the reader's comfort zone.
Whatever doesn't violate the character concept, more like. Your opinions are noted.
>14228811
>>14228811
MKIII in warmachine colors looks surprisingly okay
>>14228822
Too bad your opinions are objectively wrong.
Shit, you barely understand how the Extremis suit works. All you got going for you is a hilarious case of the not muhs. Too bad for you, princess. :^)
>>14228894
How does Bleeding Edge work out of interest?
>>14228725
>The gold parts being stored in his bones and seeping out through his pores? Nnnnnno. The red parts being another layer over the gold parts? Also no.
What the fuck are you talking about? The skin that forms on Stark's body isn't actually seen when the armor is on. Did you ever read Extremis, or are you just assblasted Ellis and Adi Granov made a god-tier suit that didn't conform to the man-in-a-can definition of Iron Man?
Your complaints seem more suited to the Bleeding Edge, which practically DID give him superpowers via the suit forming on his body as he saw fit.
>>14228910
Bleeding Edge is a suit made of nanomachines capable of changing their properties to suit whatever Stark needs them to be. They can form the base armor, weapons, body enhanciles, and even clothing.
>>14228963
See, I thought Bleeding Edge was the step too far. Extremis is kind of okay, but the problem with Bleeding Edge is there's nowhere to go past it because it can already do everything. There's nothing to improve on beyond it without going into gonzo territory like 50, and 50's only at all acceptable because Tony's a villain at the time and thus should be more powerful.
>>14229011
Model 51 makes Bleeding Edge look like a bitch.
>>14229017
>breaking the sound barrier immediately after leaving the ground
Damn...
>>14229011
>>14229017
So what's 50 and 51 then? I haven't been keeping up with the suits or comics at all. Bleeding Edge stores the whole suit in his blood and marrow and not just the undersuit like Extremis?
>>14229041
50 was the symbiote armor, 51 is the armor he has now. The former was a liquid metal suit that is merged with his consciousness, and the latter is a suit made up of microscopic building blocks linked to his brain's synapses. Both can leave his body and function independently.
>>14229084
Okay
>>14229081
Having an independent suit that can be used as a drone is kind of an obvious step to be honest, and it's surprising it's taken this long to happen. It's a good idea, even if you take a step back and have a suit made up of plates that is stored in a suitcase or whatever to do it.
>>14229115
It's not exactly new for Stark. In fact, he's used that trick multiple times, far before even Extremis.
>>14229628
Most notably, Stark used the Telepresence armor while he was a gimp, as I recall.
>>14229115
>Having an independent suit that can be used as a drone is kind of an obvious step to be honest, and it's surprising it's taken this long to happen. It's a good idea, even if you take a step back and have a suit made up of plates that is stored in a suitcase or whatever to do it.
>>14229654
>Most notably, Stark used the Telepresence armor while he was a gimp, as I recall.
Correct. The NTU-150 (Neuromimetic Telepresence Unit) armor was what he used in issues #290-300. That was back in 1993.
I loved that the suit was crammed full of loads of weapons, ammo, and equipment it could deploy as needed -- because it didn't need room for a person inside it. Badass.
Goddamnitall, Len Kaminski's run as writer on Iron Man was fantastic. The art wasn't superb, but it's my second favorite run after Michelini & Layton.
>>14229115
>>14229628
>>14229654
>>14230700
The NTU is an advanced take on remote-controlling the Iron Man Armor via "Encephalo Circuits," which was done as early as Iron Man #258 (1990).
This was a really interesting shot. The 42 can apparently be controlled subconsciously and it restrains Pepper, keeping her from helping Tony Iron Man literally created a divide between them even though the reason he's been making these suits is to protect her. Pepper leaving Tony in CW makes a lot of sense because despite blowing up all his suits at the end of 3, he's right back at it in AOU because he's incapable of stopping.
M3 was a mess even though I liked it and AOU plainly not good, but the Russos could take the continuity of those movies and shape some meaningful development out of them. CW did a nice job of reframing previous films in a different light.
If you guys have any pictures of the Heroes Return Armor circa 1997(?) I would love to see it.
>>14230782
I figured he was blowing up all the suits and throwing away the reactor as a sign he was over his PTSD need to constantly research, design and build, that he was ready to be normal (for him) again - not that he was giving up being Iron Man, which was clearly not going to happen and felt like a Spider-Man No More thing.
>>14230921
Also that it's really, really stupid to have your character decided not to be a hero anymore in the same film that he discovers he's the real hero and not the suit. That's some silly plotting.
> I'm a really hero even without the suits I design and build
> Guess I'll give up being a hero for good no that I know that
Who plotted that shit?
>>14222755
>pretty boys in plastic armor who have emotional dilemmas and whine about killing people
So...Iron Man, then?
>>14230921
>>14230955
It was, at that time, going to be the last RDJ appearance in the MCU. The ending of IM3 was Tony quitting.
There were other Avengers around, plus Rhodey now had a new Hammertech-free armor that would have looked a lot better repainted red and gold instead of blue, white, and red.
But then they offered RDJ more money to make Ultron, and then, and then, and then...
So basically Rhodey will never get to wear the classic Iron Man colors that he had after Demon In A Bottle.
>>14231090
It's still a stupid set of things to put in the same movie. If he was going to leave they shouldn't have done the PTSD story in the first place.
Mark 45 is a severely underappreciated suit.
>>14232587
It has a really nice back
>Random LEDs
So with all the talk of what Iron Man should or shouldn't have up the thread, and what his suits have been doing recently as well as changes Tony has been doing on himself what would people's ideal Iron Man be? Either as one development or a technological ladder that he climbs progressively to get newer and better (or worse I guess) tech?
What could he even have that's new or better after 51 appears to be a psionically controlled morphing suit with any weapon or armor he can imagine and can be worn at all times disguising itself clothes when needed?
Would he need to get in to Moonlight Butterfly levels of silliness to improve?
>>14231090
>So basically Rhodey will never get to wear the classic Iron Man colors that he had after Demon In A Bottle.
Works out for the better.
War Machine and Iron Man are both different t, but equally great approaches to powered armor
>>14232653
>useless forehead panel
>not another repulsor cannon
>>14232725
> useless
> it houses what is essentially a psycommu system
>>14232741
>not embedding them in your skull
>description is in line with the comic armor
>movie has vibranium blades that are useless outside of the ONE scene they're used in.
>>14232867
Best suit is best
>>14232919
It's twin, more conventionally painted brother is also good.
>>14232631
doesn't look as well armored as previous models.
Why after so many upgrade, Tony still left the power source of his armor in the open without any protection ?
>>14232974
Cause it looks cool.
>>14232974
Unibeam is his most power ful weapon in a pinch, really.
>>14232974
It some protection, but not as well as some other parts because he also uses as a weapon.
>>14233240
Why not cover it in retractable armor? I'm sure the protection offered would be worth more than the negatives created due to it. The unibeam takes half a second to charge anyway so it can open during that time.
>>14233276
for an in-universe story reason...
if I had to guess....maybe he doesn't want to risk getting it jammed and not able to fire? it would suck if you couldn't use your unibeam because of jammed door.
outside of that i dunno.
>>14233738
considering how powerful the unibeam is, it could probably just blow through it, but whatever
Whhat happened to those red super lasers from the second movie? I'd imagine after this many years he could improve or even perfect them as weapons.
Also the suit in that movie was cool.
>>14233798
Used in literally every Iron Man appearance since then. They aren't even one-time-use anymore.
>>14233837
Wait...I think he didn't use them in IM3, but I could be remembering wrong.
For an Iron Man movie with a fuckton of Iron Man suits, they really don't use much more than standard repulsors, do they?
>>14233798
The Mark VI used lasers in the Avengers to cut loose some debris in a Shield Helicarrier.
The Mark VII had a triple beam laser in each wrist that Tony used in the Chitauri Invasion. It didn't use a cartridge battery, so it's assumed they run off of arc reactor energy.
The Mark 42 didn't have any because it wasn't weapons ready yet. He had to manually throw a rocket at the helicopters attacking his house.
The Mark 43 had the lasers and was used against Ultron drones in Sokovia.
>>14233850
Tony's distancing himself from the weapons industry. He's not an arms dealer anymore.
>>14221209
Bleeding Edge is best girl.
>>14223421
If Vision's blast overloaded the War Hammer suit and that's why it shutdown then why did the Mk-VI get overcharged instead of shutting down when Thor hit it in Avengers?
>>14234945
Because a lightning bolt is not the same as a infinity stone blast?
>>14234945
I was actually wrong watching it again, Vision's blast physically damaged the arc reactor of Rhodey's suit, so it'd almost certainly have hurt him.
>>14234986
Yeah, it tears a pretty deep gouge through the chestplate. A few inches closer and Vision would have gutted Rhodey like a fish, if he'd actually managed to hit Falcon you would've needed to clean it up with a mop.
>>14235284
I wouldn't say it was a big or deep gouge personally. It took out the reactor and a bit of plate, but not much more.
He was presumably aiming at the backpack, so he probably wouldn't have done much more damage to Sam's backpack than to War Machine.
Mind you, Sam would still have fallen with no visible means of saving himself, so impact might have smeared him even if Vision's blast hadn't.
Why didn't Stark call in Iron man drones to help?
>>14237380
Because after the Ultron clusterfuck he is a bit wary of giving a AI more power than just a helper like Friday is
>>14232587
Why is chest piece not covering the entire chest? There are pieces of grey underarmor exposed. I do not like the trend of exchanging armor for flexibility. It makes it more fragile.
>>14237768
That's literally been Tony's design philosophy going from the Mark VII forward.
You don't need armor if you're too fast to hit.
>>14237863
I don't understand what you mean when you say "Literally been"? What would it have been if not "literally"? Is it not always literally? I would appreciate your clarification. I apologize for my language as English is not my native language. However, I am studying to improve it
>>14237896
Nowadays, literally is just american slang for really or emphatically. Most children these days use it without realizing its true definition.
>>14237896
It's an expression that puts extra emphasis on the statement that follows right after.
Tony intentionally chooses to make lightweight suits that are easy to put on and take off, but they've become more fragile as a direct result.
He makes Rhodey's suits much more bulkier and armored. Didn't help him much though.
>>14237900
>implying language is an immutable concept set in stone
>implying dictionaries haven't already modified the definition
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/literally
>in a literal sense or manner : actually <took the remark literally> <was literally insane>
>in effect : virtually <will literally turn the world upside down to combat cruelty or injustice — Norman Cousins>
>>14237901
>He makes Rhodey's suits much more bulkier and armored. Didn't help him much though.
It helps War Machine against plenty of things, unless you have an infinity stone handy.
The problem with War Machine is that they don't take the concept far enough. War Machine is supposed to be everything Iron Man isn't. If the suits were vehicles, then Iron Man is a sleek high-speed Ferrari with a ton of compact features, like a James Bond car; versatile. War Machine is the tank, far slower than Iron man, but locked and loaded with weapons; no-nonsense.
I would really love it if Marvel gave movie War Machine his comic exosuit on-top of War machine's regular suit (ala Iron Man's "hulkbuster"). An Exo-suit jam-packed with guns, missiles, and tons of weapons, and is able to rag-doll Iron Man out of the sky when they first fought.
>>14238043
Ok I can honesty say I hate that design. It reminds me too much of the Dreadknight of the Grey Knights from 40K. It's a giant chest mounted baby carriers which is just retarded looking if you ask me. Anyone feel the same?
>>14237901
>Tony intentionally chooses to make lightweight suits that are easy to put on and take off, but they've become more fragile as a direct result.
Really?
Because Mark 43, 44, and 45 were all sturdy as fuck. Mark 43 is notably the same exact suit as Mark 42, for the most part.
Mark 46 only started to have minor malfunctions when Steve was wailing on it with a vibranium shield and superhuman strength from two supersoldiers that are strong enough to hold down a helicopter, and it took everything he and Bucky had to even hinder Stark.
The idea that Stark's suits are getting fragile because he made them smaller is a load of crap. The only time they're really been shown to be easily broken or destroyed was during Iron Man 3 while fighting people that are arguably comparable in strength to Captain America while having bodies that practically double as lightsabers, being able to melt thick metal structures in a short period of time with little effort (impact tolerance isn't the same as heat tolerance.) The only other times they broke was when it made impact with a surface mid-suit up during a freefall, and the faulty Mark 42, and that suit's buggienss is a plot point.
>>14238582
This. Even then, Mark 42 took helicopter fire, rubble, and flooding, made a crash landing in a forest that demolished several trees, was smashed apart by a truck, and STILL managed to put itself back together multiple times with no issues beyond needing a charge. If that's not a testament to Stark tech's durability, I don't know what is.
>>14223192
your post made me pick up the series. now i'm at season 2 ep 3. shit keeps getting better and better
>>14238655
oh shit, i gotta start watching that.
how is it as an iron man as a teenager cartoon? how is it as a mecha cartoon?
>>14238706
Do X-buster suits actually bust the suits they're designed to bust?
I heard a few people were surprised that Veronica actually knocked the Hulk out in AOU
>>14223245
>on 2 the plot was filled with ex machinas and 3 was RDJ pulling a Johnny Depp with the whole "MUH PTSD'
Iron man 1 started with tony selling guns and being a dick about it. then he nearly got killed by his own weapons, and wound up being terrorist hostage. it ended with him having his eyes opened, thus becoming iron man and having to defeat his own ego, along with the personification of what could have been him if he continued selling guns (Stane).
When Iron Man 2 began, we see tony successfully "privatising world peace" using his iron man armor, and being a dick about it. then he got his ass beat up by another guy in armor. armor which, according to tony, nobody else but him can make for another 10-20 years. it ended with him having his eyes opened, and having to defeat his ego along with the guy from before, who proved him wrong by beating him up with armor.
Avengers 1 started with SHIELD asking for tony (and banner)'s help with locating the cube, with tony being a dick about it.
you see how there's a pattern to tony's behavior prior to IM3? all this time he was that snobby rich genius who thinks of himself a big man in an otherwise small world, and no matter how many times he had his "eyes opened" before, his ego keeps reverting him back to being an asshole.
but Avengers changed all that. that time when Loki came from another world, then Thor after him, then the whole chitauri army with flying dragons and whatnot, and especially witnessing the true scale of the world unknown to him when he carried that nuke in the end, THAT changed everything. he was no longer the big man in his small world. he was a small man in the big world. he felt powerless, he has no control, and that freaked him out.
>>14238666
i really liked how they handled the relationship between tony and his dad. and how the series basically ties up all the characters' stories together, like howtony's dad owns one of the mandarin rings. the mecha action is pretty nice for a teenage cartoon, and the villain designs are cool too, especially mandarin himself.
also watching tony stark suffering from "normal life" amuses me most. pepper is shit tho.
>>14238565
Nope. Don't agree. That thing looks beastly.
>>14238758
Post-Avengers flips him to the other extreme of being an asshole, though, in that he basically becomes Hank Pym. It takes basically nothing to cause him to freak out and decide he needs to be "doing more", which usually involves him doing something phenomenally stupid.
Even aside from that: Steve was five seconds from signing the Accords, but Tony had to get one last verbal jab in that made Steve put the pen down. Tony absolutely cannot control his ego.
>>14238713
They put up a better fight than they might have otherwise, but generally a ____buster fails or at least gets wrecked in the process.
>>14224696
Tron > metal lad
>Iron Man fucking Mary Jane now
Why does Marvel hate Spidey so goddamn much?
>>14238043
Does anyone else think that Tony could use Extremis and fix Rhodey's paralysis? That would be a great way to lead in to the character controlling machines like in the comics.
>>14239963
I doubt Steve was ever signing. If I recall he was just holding the pen and open to listening to Tony, but not actually indicating a desire to sign. He was off the page in that regard from the get go.
That said, what busters has he even made? All I can think of are Hulk and Thor Busters.
>>14240034
Are they fucking? I thought she just appeared in his line of comics now instead and had considered working for him after he offered, but turned it down? That's just what Wiki says though and I didn't put any more effort than that in to finding out what the whole thing was about.
>>14240034
More than any other comic book character, Spider-Man is supposed to be a stand-in for the reader. His problems are meant to be problems that most people deal with: aging relatives, money troubles, having to balance his responsibilities. Spider-Man doing the right thing is meant as proof that you can do the right thing too.
Now consider what Marvel thinks of its fanbase, and their treatment of Spidey becomes more clear.
>>14240064
>That said, what busters has he even made? All I can think of are Hulk and Thor Busters.
Allow me to introduce you to the Black Panther Buster Armor! This armor is a lesser known buster suit that is designed to counter Black Panther's acute superhuman senses, and weapons. As Black Panther in the comics is known for his extraordinary superman senses, Tony designed a suit to nullify that advantage. The suit is designed from the bottom up to run for complete silent running. Absolutely no sound is emitted from using the suit. Even the carbon dioxide created from Tony's breathing is stored inside tanks in the suit to prevent detection.
In addition, the suit's main feature is the glass-like holographic camouflage to thwart Black Panther's senses. The suit could optically change into the background of the environment allowing Iron Man to get the drop on Black Panther (not as easy feat). Secondly, the suit has an anti-vibranium shell. This outer shell reacts violently against vibranium, and when Black Panther attempts to use his Vibranium based weapons (such as his claws) and makes contact with the suit, there is a huge energy black-lash in the direction of the attacker that either knocks out, or brings the attacker to their knees.
One of the lesser known buster suits, but certainly lives up to it's name!
>>14240064
There was a one shot Thanos Buster in the lead up to the recent Secret Wars - although it basically was only shown fighting for a single panel and in the next one Stark was already defeated and the armor trashed.
>>14240197
Is that a new record for XXXBusters? You know, I've always figured Tony should just go to space, at least for a while, to gain perspective if nothing else, but partially because it'd allow his armors and ideas to go beyond the kind of limit he's at the moment and normalize many of the stuff he's done by surrouding him with lots of other, even regular people who can do much of the same and partially because it'd just be a fun story. Also because I want him to use some version of the Starboost more.
>>14240164
Don't forget the Phoenix-Buster Armor, which lasted a few pages before being BTFO due to it's weapons splitting the Phoenix Force in five instead of destroying it.
>>14240281
Did Romita ink that page and/or design the suit? I love his art on some things, but that's a pretty awful design. I do love the massive reactor though.
>>14240229
Also, he didn't even actually get to Thanos and got defeated by Terrax, an herald of Galactus that was working with him.
>>14240326
Tony looking pretty Spess Marine there.
>>14240229
>You know, I've always figured Tony should just go to space, at least for a while, to gain perspective if nothing else, but partially because it'd allow his armors and ideas to go beyond the kind of limit he's at the moment
That actually happened already. He wound up playing comedic relief for the Guardians of the Galaxy. Also the armor he wore was fucking disgusting.
>>14240295
Just looked it up right quick, it was inked by Scott Hanna. No idea who designed it. Though, I wouldn't be surprised if JRJr did design it.
>>14240358
It's mostly the head that's ugly to be fair, but the upper arms and shoulders aren't great either. God damn is that head ugly though. It's like he pulled a gimp mask on.
>>14240376
Not to mention that the toy version of it has become truly legendary as a shelfwarmer. Maybe it'll look better with a black wash and a gloss topcat? I don't even want to pay $9 on clearance to find out.
>>14240048
>Does anyone else think that Tony could use Extremis and fix Rhodey's paralysis? That would be a great way to lead in to the character controlling machines like in the comics.
PLEASE GOD NO
I fucking hate Extremis
should I read International Iron man or invincible iron man first?
>>14241408
Whatever floats your boat. They are all different "eras" of Iron Man with different writers. Although International Iron Man isn't finished yet. Personally, I would read completed works first, but it doesn't really affect anything negatively if you start recently and work your way backwards.
>>14241073
Oh geez, it looks even worse in 3D. Also like a bootleg.
>>14241149
Would you feel better if it were just a techno back brace that attached to his spine and plugged into his nervous system?
>>14241950
>techno back brace that attached to his spine and plugged into his nervous system?
Sounds better tbqh familia
The faceplate on this was driving me nuts, so I tried my best to fix it to make it more in-line with Extremis and reduced the noise a bit.
>>14243338
...And my edit.
Holy shit, an IM thread on /m/? That's something new.
Where's the War Machine love? I think, design-wise Mark I is far better than II or III, but goddamn that scene in civil war was the awesomest. Finally! This is what I've been waiting for! Couldn't stop myself from throwing fists in the air like a little kid. At least he had a proper send-off.
Will he show up with a tank chassis in place of legs next time?
>>14243342
Couldn't figure out the difference for a while but I like the edit much better. Original is alright but simple is better in this case.
>>14244435
>Will he show up with a tank chassis in place of legs next time?
Once Rhodey is fully rehabilitated, I'll imagine that Stark will add an interface to the next War Machine iteration that allows his legs to move.
>>14244435
>War Machine
so he will be a zaku tank?
>>14245180
War Machine Mk 4 - Origin Guntank
War Machine Mk 5 - Big Zam
>>14244435
>War Machine is more War Machine in a Captain America film than he is in the third Iron Man Movie.
>>14223079
I liked Blizzards suit
>>14241950
>Would you feel better if it were just a techno back brace that attached to his spine and plugged into his nervous system?
Yes. I'd like that much better. It'd help if he made it, too.
>>14240281
Mech stuff has never been Romita Jr's strong point.
>>14244435
I'm hoping for Ant-Man to get an armored suit, and eventually get to see Iron-Spider on the big screen.
BUT MUH MK V
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/8yWN7Oa.png "latest[1].png")
>>14247316
>coolest reveal
>never shows up again
I guess you could say that was the first teaser of what's coming next.
Vanilla coke suit a best.
>>14221890
Not that it was in MCU but I thought that was the Thorbuster's thing.
>>14247349
It really is a great looking suit, and they used an off-gold to offset the color change.
Too bad about the movie, though
>>14248625
Would you say its the Hyaku Shiki of the suits? Consider most other suits are mostly red.
why did tony abandon the mk 42 style suit where each pieces comes on in favor of one whole suit that wraps around him again?
>>14249335
if I were Tony I'd probably look at the mk 42/43 as an experiment rather than a permanent direction. From what I've seen, it made the armor more fragile, or at the very least, have more points of failure. One connection joint fails, then it seems like the whole suit falls apart.
The design is very unforgiving. Every has to be working 100%, or the results are comically bad.
>>14249335
There's no real evidence that he did. We have no idea how Mark 45 suits up and 46 might have more than one means of suiting up beyond deploying from a helicopter.
Wouldn't be the first time an Iron Man suit could suit up multiple ways. Mark 7 could fly to Tony in freefall or open up normally. It's also assumed Mark IV and VI could also do this, considering Tony gets into Mark VI in the Helicarrier without a gantry, and the deleted scene in Iron Man 2 shows it opening up while it's on him.
>>14249562
>if I were Tony I'd probably look at the mk 42/43 as an experiment rather than a permanent direction. From what I've seen, it made the armor more fragile, or at the very least, have more points of failure.
43 Worked fucking flawlessly and Ultron smashed it through a large metal structure in addition to beating it to death with lasers and large pieces of debris. All it got were some scuffs on the paint.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ctw3sNIl350
0:30 didn't even slow him down.
Mark 43 was a beast and 45 and 46 were supposed to be even better.
>>14249739
In this case...
Fragile =/= Weak
It means fragile relative to other Iron Man Armors. Especially the classic suits from Iron Man 1, 2, and the 1st Avengers movie.
>>14249739
>...with lasers and large pieces of debris. All it got were some scuffs on the paint.
The same lasers that Captain America was able to take without injury? That doesn't say much.
>>14249791
Those weren't really a world apart in comparison.
The most punishment Mark III took in one battle was a single flak round and the impact in the dirt and a F22 airframe, and Fighter jets aren't known for being built out of terribly durable materials. Even Mark VII just takes a couple chitauri shots and an impact on the ground.
The suits haven't gotten more fragile in any capacity at all. The only one that can be said for this is 42, and that had more to do with the fact that the tech was buggy, not the suits durability. Fuck, it reassembled itself multiple times with no issue even after all the damage it took.
>>14249825
He's a super durable super soldier wearing Stark Tech, I ain't gotta explain shit.
>>14249899
That flak round actually managed to visibly ding up the armor, as I recall.
>>14249899
>He's a super durable super soldier wearing Stark Tech, I ain't gotta explain shit.
Huge captain america fan here. Not the guy you arguing with. I was following this debate, and I was agreeing with some of what you said. bBut I honestly expected better from you than this response. Even I raised an eyebrow at Cap tanking lazers to the chest in AoU.
>>14250001
Considering the lasers don't even scuff his uniform, I thought it'd be pretty self-explanatory that whatever material the uniform was made out of (I'm guessing Stark tech, since he makes just about all their shit, these days) took majority of the hit, and his body's no stranger to concussive force, so that aspect didn't do much either.
>>14250024
meant for >>14250015
>>14249899
If the mk 43 is just an improved mk 42, then I'm not impressed. The mk 42 was shitty and fell apart. If the mk 43 is just an improved mk 42 all it does is bring the average from shitty to just ok. Not impressive. The mk 2 took more punishment from hand2hand with mk 3.
>>14250050
I'd like to point out an earlier anon's point that the MK42 never fell apart while Tony was actually wearing it, and that every instance of it falling apart came from trying to use it's (expressly experimental) remote features.
>>14250024
Then it's pretty clear you can't use Ultron's lasers as a benchmark for the Iron Man armor if a freaking stark t-shirt can tank the hit without a scratch.
ARE YOU TAKING CRAZY PILLS???? HOW CAN YOU NOT SEE THAT?!
>>14250125
>the MK42 never fell apart while Tony was actually wearing it
It fell apart in the opening sequence with Tony wearing it...
Does anyone have any pictures of the Iron Man armors in Iron Man 3. I mean anything outside the artbook? A lot of those suits look like copy and paste repeats. I need different angles.
>>14250444
> A lot of those suits look like copy and paste repeats
They are. There's about 12 new unique suits, the rest just have different colors and swapped parts.
>>14249899
If you look at the Mk 42/43 vs the Mk 7, there is more exposed inner frame and less armor on the mk 42/43. The mk 7 is more armored.
What conclusion do you draw from this?
>>14250828
Why did IM3 director Shane Black go overboard with demanding 35 new suits be made for the movie? Why not go for something like 10 to 15 (20 tops). At least then it wouldn't be so much fluff i think.
>>14250015
Falcon also takes a beam to the chest in CW and he isn't dead either.
>>14250878
He also takes a skydive without a chute. Which, while us paralysed, doesn't really damage the suit at all from what I recall. And given the height he fell from, paralysis is a soft punishment. The suit protected him from being pavement pizza, which is reflects well on it really. It must use one hell of a shock absorption system.
>>14250929
I think you're mistaking Falcon with Warmachine
>>14250943
Oh, you're right, I am. When did Sam take one to the chest?
