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8 hours to go, streams nowhere.
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macross threads today are dead
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6 hours to go huh.
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>>14207236
Last episode had too many revelations.
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>>14207368
>long live belka
every time
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>>14207368
Apparently on /a/
>Minmay didn't love Hikaru
>Misa was written in as the love interest by the network
are trending.
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>>14207377
That's common knowledge and easily apparent if you watch SDF
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>>14207368
>Git Gud
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>>14207380
>>14207377
>>Misa was written in as the love interest by the network
Really?
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>>14207385
Yes she was meant to be Global's love interest.
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>>14207385
>According to an article in Animerica magazine, Shoji Kawamori's original idea for the Macross series was an all-female crew for the battleship with a female captain at the helm. After the idea was revamped for its final presentation, the female captain idea was reworked and became the template for Misa's character.
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>>14207387
I want to see the source for that
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>>14207425
See >>14207390.

Global was the captain of another ship in the fleet.
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>>14207390
This doesn't say anything about her being Global's love interest.
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>>14207368
Why is this so perfect?
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>>14207425
Global/Misa was in the director's commentary of Global's Report.

The original show was going to end with Minmay's song defeating Zentraedi and her separation with Hikaru, you know, like in DYRL, and the novelization which ignores the timeskip which was added by Network pressuring to fill more episodes. The final scene was going to be her last concert ( which Kawamori finally added in Flash Back). To Kawamori, Minmay was the protagonist of Macross and Hikaru the witness of her story. Something that Mikimoto is making finally obvious with the First. Misa was just belatedly shoved as the consolation prize, but that way it made Macross famous for triangles. If you checked the Macross credits, she ranks lower than Claudia and Global originally.

This doesn't mean Hikaru was going to hook up with Minmay. From the beginning, they decided they would take different paths. That's why the scene with episode 27 between them seems final. The episodes after that made both of their characters act more immature and confused, it derailed them for the sake of retarded triangle drama.
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>>14207495
Almost.

It just misses
>muh kaze
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>>14207425
Episode 14, Ishiguro's commentary. That's why Global is the one with Misa when she confronts her father with her future while Hikaru's the one with Minmay. That was supposed to be a set up but they changed a lot of the story by pressure of the network. I'm glad because Misa is best girl, but I also feel she was robbed because Hikaru is decidedly a horrible guy and Global is better.
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>>14207469
Noboru Ishiguro made a comment about it. Kawamori recycled that plot for Frontier.
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>>14207390
>Shoji Kawamori's original idea for the Macross series was an all-female crew for the battleship with a female captain at the helm
Truly a man ahead of his time
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>>14207498
That's really dumb. Why would they even have a subplot like that?
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>>14207502
So, what? The kiss scene with the Zentradi wasn't supposed to happen? Hikaru and Misa weren't supposed to get closer thanks to Mars? This sounds pretty impossible.
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>>14207520
Just because you don't like it doesn't invalidate it.
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So anyone else here actually reading Macross The First? I've found it to be pretty good.
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>>14207530
I can't find it past the first volume.
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>>14207502
>>14207503
Thanks. That would've been interesting. I'm glad they stil made Misa a captain of the SDF2 at the end.
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>>14207522
It's just totally illogical given the story developments up to that point.

I guess that's just a native failing of Japanese writers.
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Regarding Global Report's commentary:
Topics: Director Ishiguro And Captain Global
Captain Global, who is the lead in this episode, is said to have been modelled on the director of this series, Ishiguro Noboru. According to that Director Ishiguro's conversation at that time, he avoided depicting Global as an absolutely perfect Captain, and its said that they tried to retain human weaknesses in Global's depiction. His trademark pipe was even thought about in the setting, such as Global's stomach actually deteriorating from the pressure of being appointed the Captain of the Macross, and he unconsciously reaches for the pipe that the doctor has told him to stop using.
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The Freyja song on the new single is the best new Elton John song since "Something About the Way You Look Tonight"
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Vaughnlive is so low-quality, is there a better option?
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started
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Wow, Messer's a bitch.
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FAST PACKS
SOUND BOOSTERS
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What is Bellri doing in Macross?
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>>14207724
Judging by his absence from the promotional art, it probably involves dying.
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Mirage = jobber.
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>>14207724
Hayate's first kill.
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>>14207740
I don't even understand how she ended up just defending there. What the fuck?
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>>14207741
Now he's no better than his enemies.
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>>14207742
She got tag teamed by Old dude and Bellri, and got her weapons shot off.
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>>14207751
>tag teamed by Old dude and Bellri,
lewd
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>>14207751
But wasn't she mounting a pack?
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You asked, and I answered.
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I'm glad the rest of Walkure are starting to call Mikumo out on being a rude cunt
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>Hayate just offed Bellri

Kawamori is sending a message to Tomino
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>>14207760
>muh kaze

Well done anon.
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>Mirage being a typical damsel in distress

Shame to expect any different, really.
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>>14207779
It's kind of annoying since she can pilot, unlike Misa who's just commanding
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>>14207779
>implying
Are you blind? She did some grunt work and even saved Hayate's ass.
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>>14207760
This is great. Next thread should have this as the OP pic.
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>>14207779
Yeah that anoyed me too. Sure she has her "legacy issues", but it's stupid to make her seem like a jobber just so Hayate can save her. Atleast show her holding her own for a while and kicking some ass before facing this stuff.
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>>14207791

And even after that wonderful contribution she's scarcely a cut above the typical Japanese representation of a competent female character. Sad, honestly.
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>>14207817
>she's scarcely a cut above the typical Japanese representation of a competent female character.
Spare me the bullshit. She's more that competent. Just because doesn't have the same talent and skill as her grandparents doesn't make Mirage inferior.
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>>14207821
a jobber is a jobber
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>>14207821

>Just because doesn't have the same talent and skill as her grandparents doesn't make Mirage inferior.

Considering their accolades, yes, it does.
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>>14207825
She isn't one dumbass. You can keep on dreaming though.

>>14207826
>Considering their accolades, yes, it does
Of course not. She was obviously looking after Hayate since she knows he's a fucking novice in combat and refuses to kill.
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>>14207837

Well, I don't know, you compare the greatest aces both sides had in Macross and a pilot who can barely fend for herself facing two expendable characters who has to be bailed out by the very novice she's coddling and the gulf becomes apparent fairly readily.
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IT'S OVER

FREYJAFAGS
B T F O
T
F
O
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>>14207809
I feel like she and Hayate will get better over the series, since this episode was all about proving Messer wrong.
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>>14207853
Probably, but I just don't want her to be the "weak woman" pilot. I like seeing my girls strong and worthy.
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>bellri got so blueballed he traveled all around the world and into another dimension
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>>14207843
Not the new Ranka they said
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>>14207843
She'll win this time! I feel it in my bones!
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>>14207867
Freyjafags on suicide watch lol
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>>14207840
You were downplaying Mirage by calling her an incompetent female character. She may be an inferior pilot in skill compared to her grandparents but that doesn't make her inferior as a character. And she was fighting against fucking Aerial Knights. They aren't expendable and are at least as skilled as they were. Even fending off the twins by herself. Seriously looking down on her solely on her combat skill has little justification.
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>>14207863
>They aren't expendable

If they exist to die and not to have any actual character attached to them, then by definition they are absolutely expendable, and so Mirage almost got done in by a meatshield twink and an old geezer who scarcely have names.
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>>14207373
Reclaim Belkan Cl-

I mean
Reclaim Windermerean Sky!!
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>>14207760
Wait, where the fuck is
>git gud
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>>14207368
>>14207373
>>14207499
>>14207495
I freaking love you, buddies
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I would just like to remind you chaps that Windermere is a lake in many countries around the world. Pretty ironic for a planet that loves Ice and Wind.
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>>14207885
>Mirage almost got done in by a meatshield twink and an old geezer who scarcely have names
And your point? Oh wait you don't have one. You just simply treat her like a jobber because she doesn't have ace pilot skills. The old Aerial Knight has a name idiot. He and the twins obviously aren't expendable. She nearly got killed being she was clearly being overwhelmed. No matter how much you'll dismiss it that doesn't prove that Mirage is an inferior female character.
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>>14207862
TOMINOOOOOOOOOOO
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BELLRI NO
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>>14207760
>Westside
Giri Giri Ai muh nigga
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNTlaJAir0c
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>>14207911
The best part is, we saw what relative incompetence looks like with those mook Siegfrieds that tried to defend Walkure. This guy's just too busy drafting his tumblr post about the problematic depiction of women in Macross to notice.
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What is her deal?

Even Kaname was mad at her this week
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>>14207922
It's really hard to live up to the reputation of a Jenius.

>>14207920
I'd make a joke about shooting bailed-out pilots but this isn't Infinity and that was obviously the Draken doing a hot barbecue special on poor Bellri.
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>>14207927
The lewds must flow
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>>14207911

And the twink didn't, which was my point, dipshit.

I'm going off what I see, and for how many people blew trumpets before anything actually happened Mirage kinda fucking sucks for how much they hyped up her pedigree. Sorry to tell you that.


>>14207922

Get bent, faggot.
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GAMLIN KICK
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>>14207943
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>>14207862
>>14207920
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Okay, fess up.

How many of you /m/en are from /aceg/ as well?
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>Mirage doesn't improve her flying.
>One day she sings a random song
>Walkure Members are impressed
>They recruit her to be the final member of Walkure.

HOLYSHIT
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>>14207984
>It's Mylene's plan all along
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>>14207984
But she can't even hear the shota's song

No fold wave ability at all, anon
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>>14207992
>What are fold quartz jewelry
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>>14207942
>And the twink didn't, which was my point
The twink died because it part of the plot to have Hayate experience his first kill and to get over his pacifistic attitude, dumbass.

>Mirage kinda fucking sucks for how much they hyped up her pedigree
She was never fucking hyped in the first place. We already saw in the first episode that she wasn't an ace pilot but she was still far better than your standard NUNS pilot. It doesn't fucking matter if she isn't as skilled as her grandparents or doesn't live up to their legac because that make her an incompetent character.
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>>14207996
It doesn't fucking matter if she isn't as skilled as her grandparents or doesn't live up to their legacy because that doesn't make her an incompetent character*
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>>14207992
V-Type infection
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>>14207996

>The twink died because it part of the plot to have Hayate experience his first kill and to get over his pacifistic attitude, dumbass.

Yes, the subtle nuances of character development have not escaped my notice, I'm just indicating that she got outplayed and nearly killed by a nameless extra. Partially due to her opting to stand still and raise shields that are known to buckle under pressure, as well.

>She was never fucking hyped in the first place.

Are you actually joking? The promotional material before the show aired hyped her up as a member of the Jenius family and the 'descendant of legends', the first Jenius we'd had any proper focus on since 7 and a career pilot to boot. People on here only furthered that as they creamed their drawers at the news, and now the show's aired to reveal she's mid-low tier at best.
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>>14208011
>now the show's aired to reveal she's mid-low tier at best.
I dunno about you, but I thought it was clear she wasn't that good.

In the first episode she's the only one to even get hit.
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>>14208011
>>14208015
Moral of the story? Don't take the advertising at face value.
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>>14208011
>>14208015
Pretty sure that Mirage overcoming her demons is a big part of her development process anons ....

How about we wait till the end of the series and THEN discuss how good she actually is/was
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>>14207920
one faggot is dead already? good
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>>14207368
>WOW WOW WOOOOO
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I wish we can get another attacker this season.
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>>14208011

> The promotional material before the show aired hyped her up as a member of the Jenius family and the 'descendant of legends', the first Jenius we'd had any proper focus on since 7

If it hyped her, then I missed it because while I was aware she was Mirage Jenius the only hyping I saw was anons her creaming their drawers as you said, and none on the part of the advertising itself. Not to mention that the Jenius in 7 was pretty meh herself as a pilot and character, so Mirage doesn't have to reach far to hit her level.
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>>14207968
Oi. Thou I try not to be namefag beyond /m/.
>>14208035
I wish for Macross crossover in Infinity. Shinden is not enough. Even if we were to get plane modes only, valks. We want valks.

On the other news, any interest in YSFlight/VFX server?
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>>14208070
>YSFlight/VFX
That thing is still alive?!
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>>14208105
>Sports Festival
>Nekomimi
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>>14208105
Is Mirage crying?
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>>14208113
They're lewd tears.
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>>14208120
I don't see any tail butt-plug, what is there to be ashamed of?
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>>14208105
G A P M O E
A
P
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>>14208121
>ashamed
She's enjoying it anon.
She's ashemed of herself because she can't admit it.
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>>14208126
Gap moe?
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>>14208087
Some servers are still online thou I hear that community went to hell in officalland. Game itself pops out of woodwork every time powerlevels are mentioned , as it is pretty much only tittle that allows for using machines from multiple verses.

Also, flying in a Ghost is fun.
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>>14208138
>Ghost
You're a masochist.
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Kawamori san please yamete ~
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>>14208146
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>>14208151
>All the speakers
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>>14208156
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Ok, is it me, or is everybody using Full Frontal's trick of bouncing off rocks?
>>14208145
Well, you go full afterburner for a second, stall, rearange yourself in space, go fast again and then game engine throws you out of atmosphere.
Fun.
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>>14208162
What's Chuck carrying? Cannons or projectors?
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>>14207276
>>14207312
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>>14208168
I think Chuck is carrying the mini shield boomerang proyector thingies

Arad and Hayate have Sound Boosters

Mirage has the charger

Messer has his feelings
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>>14208105
Oh. My.
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>>14208105
>BLOOMERS
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>>14208172
>Messer has his feelings
FEELINGS? WHAT HAS FEELINGS GIVEN US?
WE'LL START OVER FROM ZERO WITH THIS KAKUGO SURUN YO
AND ENTRUST THE FUTURE TO THE NEW GENERATION

>>14208178
EXPLAIN THIS
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>>14208178
Ep7 is going to be good
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>>14208145
was the alpha 01 firing at the windmerians?
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>>14208190
No, someone was just flying an X-9 in a YSFlight macross mod.
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I wish there were JTACs in Macross.
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>>14208190
>>14208194
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU8L3UDe4F8
Come to the fun side, we have valks.
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>>14208178
Were going to see the HayatexMirage advance real far next episode.

Also
>tfw when not home yet so can't watch ep6
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>>14208199
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti2lFKUM7PM
Okay, you can fly Ghost in VoXP too but in comparison, it is tamed.
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>>14208210
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>>14208210

> image projection of concert on asteroids
> partial transformtion to shoot

Dayum.
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>>14208220
Ok, that was beyond awesome.
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>>14208220
>Dual-wielding knives
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At last, the triangle is starting to form.
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>>14208223
But wait, there is MORE!
>>14208227
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>>14207165
Mukimo is such a fucking piece of rude shit, she's in a desperate need of a bitchslap
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>>14208225
>Siegy-chan used TAKEDOWN!
>Critical hit!
>It's super-effective!
>Siegy-chan took damage from recoil!
>Enemy Nightmare PLUS fainted!
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>>14208230
>Dual KA-BAR
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>>14208228
>No duels, he said.
>>14208231
UNDERSTANDING.
Also, Brightslap.
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>>14208237
>NO DUELS, HAYATE.
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>>14208244
>>14208237
<<FIRE AWAY, COWARD>>

<<Cut the chatter, Delta 2!>>
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>>14208237
>So shiny.
They really are into each other.
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>>14208231
She's going to collapse when Freyja surpasses her
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>>14208231
Oh come on.
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>>14208247
>>14208237
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80XAJKqRU9k
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>>14208252
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>>14208256
When Mirage isn't trying to do her soldier impersonation and actually do follow flow/instincts, she is awesome. And as soon as she tries to be reasonable, well..
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>>14208256
<<Galm Team, we cannot authorize a retreat! Intercept him!>>

<<Figured you'd say that. This is gonna cost you extra!>>
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>>14208256
>>14208266
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>>14208254
That track is awesome. Should I play the game if I haven't played any AC at all?
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>>14208275
>She got good
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>>14208276
Hell yeah you should. Zero is a prequel to 4 and 5, after all.
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>>14208275

> Got good.jpg
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>>14208285
I meant it in terms of gameplay. Is it too hard or newbs like me?
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Those addons do look like boomboxes.

>>14208276
Yes.
You can start with free-to-play Infinity, as it actually is decent tittle. Avoid Assault Horizon, unless it's 3DS game, that one is awesome. And keep in mind that 'decent' AC games are those for PS2/Xbox360.
>>14208289
No, not really. Spacial awareness helps thou but you can set difficulty setting pretty low.
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>>14208289
Not really. The mercenary mode is fitted for newbies because you basically just destroy everything on sight. The controls aren't really finicky, too.
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>>14208292
>Captcha: salad.
One of pictures was for pineapple variety.
Huh.
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>>14208332
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>>14208332
Hmm, there don't seem to be a lot of ECCM options for Siegy-chan.
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>>14208340
And we see someone who jobs worse than Mirage.
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>>14208332
http://i.4cdn.org/m/1462729848815.jpg

Minmei attack. Macross II is back suckers.
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>>14208350
Like, really, against a total noob?
>MUH KAZE.
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>>14208360
FULL FRONTAL ASSAULT!.
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>>14208360
>>14208350
>Muh Kaze, earthnoid scum
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>>14208367
You were saying?
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>>14208366
HOW DARE YOU RUIN MASTER HELMAN'S PERFECT BATTLEFIELD!
Oh wait that's not bogue's Draken.
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>>14208370
No, seriously, this guy is shaping to be some sort of Max and Char progeny.
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>End of Triangle.jpg
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>>14208380
>
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>>14208376
>some sort of Max and Char progeny
>>14208380
>End of Triangle.jpg
>mfw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wj61XvOR7lU
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>>14208386
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>>14208395
>HIBIKI!
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>>14208396
>>14208395
SYMPHOGEAH?!
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>>14208396
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>>14208403
> he sees their phonic gain.
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>>14208409
SHOTA STRIKE!
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>>14208418
Mikuno x Chuck confirmed.
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>>14208424
This is a handsome ship.
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>>14208424
<<Delta 3, check six, check six!>>

<<Tally smoke, eight o'clock, half a mile, level. Can't shake em!>>
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>>14208426
I want to be a grunt on Elysium.
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>>14208431
This firing effect reminds me of something.
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>>14208434
Ok, even a redshirt pilot can evade Boque's shots. No wonder Hayate manages to look that good in this episode.
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>>14208426
Any pics of windy asshole belka ships?
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Oh neat. The grunts get the First-gen Siegy.
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>>14208438
<insert dickjoke here>
>>14208446
Not yet I think. First episode maybe?
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>>14208449
Delta has better AMBAC action than any Gundam ever had.
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>>14208453
>Stop Alto! This ship is like porcupine!
Oh. Wait.
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>>14208453
I-indirect g-groping?!
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>>14208458
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>>14208458
SUPERIOR
BOFORS
ANTI-AIR
[quad bofors firing in the distance]
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>>14208461
So shiny.

>Go to hell 2.0
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>>14208463
Actually, AA seems to be pretty effective this time around.
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>>14208473
she's Gandalf.
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>>14208465
And pinpoint barrier got upgrades!
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>>14208465
>air-to-air
>uses AGM-142 Popeyes
Bogue pls
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>>14208477
GO TO HE
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>>14208477
>Insert Druid System here
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>>14208482
<denied>
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>>14208449
Shame i like my space battleships so i was hoping for more but i guess i'll have to wait.
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>>14208486
>>14208486
Fuck.
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>>14208493
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>>14208477
Those were the fold amplifier drones.
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>>14208498
He seems to have anger issues.
Somebody hug him.
>Let whole Valkure hug him.
>>14208500
I'm too busy dumping pics to notice, nice.
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>>14208507
Bogue is Mirage of Knights.
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>>14208509
Meanwhile Hayate is getting even better and better.
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>>14208483

What's the Druid System? The Code Glass wiki makes it sound a bit like the Zero system in marking out probable enemy movements and allowing identification of commanders. Which doesn't seem to have anything to do with that pic.
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>>14208513
Again?
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>>14208519
I can imagine all mocking that awaits her during family dinner.
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>>14208523
what does this face convey?
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>>14208526
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>>14208528
Windermere do use their own EXGear variant after all.
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>>14208358
All that's missing is someone cutting their hair and a race of aliens that look strangely like African natives.
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>>14208523
Dude she was being overwhelmed by 2 Aerial Knights. One of which is a grizzled veteran.
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>>14208535
And Hayate run circles around two others. She is jobbing for the sake of story and to be saved by Hayate. Pretty sure after episode dedicated to her backstory she will stop being a punchbag for everybody, as she obviously posses skills but is missing on instincts. She do work good with Hayate thou.
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>>14208547
In meantime, some nice reaction faces.
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>>14208526

Mylene can't say a word for one.
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>>14208549
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>>14208552
No but then Mylene didn't take up fighter pilot as a career either.
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>>14208557
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>>14208559

It might not have been her career, but she flew one. A lot. So I dont think it makes any difference.
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>>14208562
Don't bully the space elf.
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>>14208570
Well, he yelled louder Mirage's name than Freya's.
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What happens if you cut a Winderwinder's hair?
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>>14208578
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>>14208579
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>>14208586
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>>14208592
>Grade skipper.
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>>14208557
The SV-262 better come with a pair of Wind Ghosts that snap on.
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>>14208599
NORA!!
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>>14208599
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>>14208599
Bellri got screwed.
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>>14208602
>like those?
>>14208606
More like roasted.
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>>14208608
Face of the murderer.
Somebody care to post Bellris when he gets his first kill?
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>>14208610
>Messer spends another episode dueling pretty boy of choice.
Oh, snark will be nice to watch.
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>>14208616
Aaaand first one to wreck a squadron valk prize goes to Mirage. Does this count's as new record?
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>>14208620
And I'm done.
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>>14208620
didn't Hayate wreck his Valk earlier when his pinpoint barriers were overloaded by a Var person?
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>>14208625
I'm glad that Hayate got past with his pacifist shit attitude. That was really getting annoying him. I don't want him to be another Kira Yamato.
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>>14208627
VF-17. Alto trashed Messiah by second episode.
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>>14208105
Mirage has fucking big tits here
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>>14208699
Pad's.
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>>14208703
Who is Pad?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mzsD2rfR94
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http://imgur.com/a/iaSX3/all
all images I've dumped in this thread, for future use.
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>>14208599
I do not remember, what was the point of the helmets that disappear?
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>>14208599
>>14208605
Man, the SRW writers are really gonna have a field day with this one.
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>>14208599
What's Zellri Benam doing in the Delta?
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>>14208811
Hayate is not wearing one, pretty boys and by extention, Brera, just because.
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>>14208811
The Draken's cockpit uses some sort of VR.
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>>14208610

Was Rockpie his first kill? Or just his first named one?
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>>14208824
Aida's lover at ep1 or 2, i really forgot by now.
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>>14208824
First, Aida's lover. Then Dellensen. Rockpie came a lot later.
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>>14207920
That's a shit ejection system.
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