What is the smallest size of a mech (relative to pilot size) that will still be considered a "mech" and not a "suit" or something else?
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if you wear it it's a suit/power armor
if you pilot it it's a mech/robot
if you control it remotely it's again a robot
The size doesn't really matter unless it's a weird case like Dai Apolon, where the main character becomes a giant when the robots combine.
IMO the pilot's body has to fit within the "torso" of the mech. If their limbs are within the limbs of the mech, it's a suit. Mech's limbs have to be controlled indirectly.
>>14169416
What about a design like pic-related where the pilot fits within the torso but they're technically still wearing the suit?
>>14169396
if it's literally just a suit you put on (Riders, iron man suits) It's power armor anything larger than that is a robot
>>14169396
You can only get very slightly smaller than Scopedog size and still be humanoid before it becomes power armour.
Some mech-style bipeds can skirt around this by having the pilot stick out of the top.
>>14169424
Cover up the unnecessarily exposed amputee catgirl and get back to me.
It's the size of power armour and you cut off all of the limbs to stick them in it and yet you left her completely uncovered so she can soak up bullets.
>>14169396
Cut off a limb. If you've also cut off the pilot's limb, it's no longer a mech but a suit.
I happen to be an expert on the question.
First things, this is definitely not a question of size, nor a question of whether or not the pilot-legs fit in, even less a question of pilot-mimicking interface.
The common definition given by >>14169411 is close, but I found out that alone it is misleading once you get away from textbook example. Also Robot is more for an AI contained in a body, what you described is a Drone.
Iron-man "power armor" for example can move by itself and be remote controlled. So even without an AI it is a full-fledged MECH even if it's so small.
So : definitions that make sense :
- Powered Exoskeleton : a system "worn" in that -something- of it require an user's body to support itself (and achieve limbed locomotion).
- Mech : any vehicle that do not require the body of its user to achieve the above (also cover drone & robot but not the above).
- Robot : any system that can operate (semi-)autonomously (intelligent behavior up to full-consciousness) The widest definition, not linked to limb.
- Drones : any unmanned vehicle, typically below robot in that it never reach full-consciousness.
There's nothing I can't classify.
>>14171040
Guess that means several famous giant robots aren't robots
>>14171066
Yes, that sort of thing happen all the time.
A director cash on a edgy term for his product, then you get a whole generation to reeducate.
>>14171466
Didn't know Yokoyama was edgy
>>14171040
So then Shining Gundam was a powered exoskeleton
so mech or powersuit?
>>14169396
my vote goes to Lagann
>>14169416
>IMO the pilot's body has to fit within the "torso" of the mech
What about if it's a literal cockpit?
>>14171040
>>14171066
most lay person include mech as part of robot. I don't think any people outside of anime actually call piloted robot a mech.
>>14169424
where is this from o.O
>>14172830
>o.O
Why do we seem to be getting these people here more and more recently?
>>14172510
yea, most people will say "a movie about giant robots" or "man-like fighting robots" or something.
hell, i didn't even know mechs were a thing until i played MechWarrior3 . And in MW3, in the training mission, you see power armors, and that's when the difference became obvious to me. i think >>14171040 nailed it with the power exoskeleton definition, if it requires a body to support itself, its a suit. you have to imagine it being taken off, if it ends up as a pile of parts on the floor, or a bulky useless hard shell suit, then, well it's a suit.
>>14172863
hey i reverse searched for it on google and i cant find a thing
>>14169424
I was going to say that it's definitely power armor until I realized that there's no way she could have her arms... well, anywhere, and that she's definitely an amputee. As long as it also requires the pilot to be legless, I'd say mech.
The second someone's limbs touch inside the robots arms/legs though, I'd say power armor
>>14172899
Doesn't excuse you typing like an underage.
>>14171906
> I didn't read the explication
Nope. Unmistakably a mech.
It's time /m/'s anon at least stop saying "power armor" every time the mech mimic the pilot's.
>>14172510
I did heard the term used casually. But I concede almost everybody just say robot or thanks to AVATAR (mech) say "exoskeleton" because "copy movement".
Si if those ever become a reality we will have to reeducate the next generation on the proper name.Then, Corporation will redefine everything into brandmarked products.
>>14172915
> As long as it also requires the pilot to be legless, I'd say mech.
I concur,
But it make me consider the question of prosthetic and cyborg.
Prosthetic "replace" but beyond... you have to define the minimal "body", else GitS start being about brain-sized persons piloting humanoid mech.
[xzibit intensifies]
>>14169411
Are you the guy that argued Escaflowne is a suit and not a mech, because you 'wear' it?
>>14169489
What if this is for a Moving company
And she helps you install furniture.
How do you know that it's a battlesuit, anon?
>>14171040
>I happen to be an expert on the question.
Stopped reading there.
>>14174287
It's still shit either way.
Power suits or mechs that aren't that much bigger than you is a major fetish of mine. I don't know why, they just look so fucking cool.
>>14169424
just add it second pair of hands
landamte design is petty unique, did anybody except shirow used that design?
>>14174292
even if it wasn't for combat. it's still smart to protect the operator with at least a few steel bars and mesh windows. how many construction vehicle have you seem that leaves the driver completely exposed? it's a huge safety concern.
>>14174705
ATGATT!
>>14174786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_r5QFuHCzuo
>>14169396
>What is the smallest size of a mech (relative to pilot size) that will still be considered a "mech" and not a "suit" or something else?
Probably Scopedog of Votoms. The pilot fights in a chair and the arms are controled by controls. If you take a look at Power Loader, Iron Monger, Hulkbuster... all of them are just big suits where pilots move legs and arms to control it.
I think that's the logic.
>>14174705
> Bobcat man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXeRH2WiVVs
My nigga.
>>14171936
Thats....thats a tough one.
It's kind of half-and half. The arms are effectively 1-to-1 WALDO's (those small arms contain the pilots arms) but the legs are handled differently.
The legs do mimic the pilots leg movement, but not at a 1-to-1 scale like the arms, there is a sort of multiplier involved.
Shit.....I dunno.
