Dragon's Heaven
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I remember some anon saying the OVA was based on a manga, but I can't find any information on it. In fact I searched for it in japanese and couldn't find anything on it either. So does anyone have confirmation of whether it exists or not?
Yeah, iirc there's a bunch of short stories about Shaian?
People've posted pics here a couple times but I'm afraid I lost 'em with my last computer. Not really sure there's proper scans.
I've been a huge fan of this little short and Makoto Kobayashi's style since I stumbled upon it one board night browsing Youtube back in high school. We should see if we can find those lost manga scans.
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>>14155196
>>14158240
I really wish I was there to see those. Just saw the ova recently and I'm really craving for more.
>>14159285
I just saw it right now. It was a little too short for my liking, but the animation was great and the music was fucking excellent.
>ywn have lunch with your robot friend
This is the show with the bound docs right?
>>14159495
That's the one.
Also Shaian looks like The O if you squint hard enough.
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>>14159443
Damn, too bad you saw the laserdisc version. The DVD looks a lot better.
And yeah, it really is too short. I think everyone who liked it would want more.
>>14159782
It doesn't help that the DVD raws have no subs so far. Hopefully that'll get rectified.
>>14159859
I just used the subs file from the laserdisc.
>>14159874
Oh yeah, forgot about the .ass. Still won't cover the commentary though.
>>14154973
>>14159285
Here's a mega of the manga (photos of each page, not scans). I asked about it two years ago, and /m/ was nice enough to give me these and help me find my own copy on Mandarake. Thanks, /m/
https://mega.nz/#!ihkxmTzS!t2Ud5vMjmeqtp10MLk0BeZnKsRKpewDFpbwY6vJ8C80
>>14160027
Thanks again, /m/an
>>14159782
I just realized that the remastered version was released on Nyaa.se a while ago. Thanks for mentioning the DVD
>>14160027
Thanks a ton, anon.
How come this manga isn't mentioned on any english sites. Including MAL. I don't get why something like this would be so oscure.
>>14160829
That's actually a good question.
https://www.mangaupdates.com/authors.html?id=26298
The only result I got from searching Dragon's Heaven is something completely unrelated.
>>14160829
>I don't get why something like this would be so oscure.
Outside of /m/, Dragon's Heaven is pretty obscure. A One-shot anime with no merchandise tie-ins? Stuff like that gets buried by newer anime with more episodes and more merchandise.
>>14163546
It's obscure on /m/ too, considering you almost never see more than five people give a single shit about it
>>14163546
If we post images of all the scans then that'll get it some more circulation.
>>14163721
On the bright side, we did finally get DVD ISOs so here's to hoping someone encodes that with subs and that might help gain some recognition too.
>>14163546
Fuck Dragon's Heaven, at least it got an OVA.
Rune Masquer got literally fucking nothing but Buchi's one-shot manga and some insanely overpriced GK's.
>>14164348
That is a lot of edge
![Dragon`s Heaven - 1 - OVA - [Nora_Inu_Anime].avi_2013-11-23_14-44-41.png](https://i.imgur.com/ownJHi5.png "Dragon`s Heaven - 1 - OVA - [Nora_Inu_Anime].avi_2013-11-23_14-44-41.png")
I don't even remember anything about this.
>>14166959
>LD release
DVD's already out, anon.
I thought this was shit. It is only remembered because it has a meme artstyle.
>>14168149
>meme (noun)
I want /mu/ and /g/ to leave.
>>14168149
Posting some of that there "meme" artstyle
>>14168755
>>14168759
This last one's not from Dragon's Heaven, but it's one of Kobayashi's similar works
are there any doujins of the blond girl?
/m/, is there a more pure love than that between a girl and her robot? Especially if the robot reciprocates.
>>14160027
FUCKING THANK YOU MAN
>>14171188
But she liked elmedine anon
>>14171236
>marry
Shaian
>fuck
El Medine
>kill
Baund Docs
I love that mix of Frenh and Japanese SF
>>14159443
>friend
she gives him a kissu, and he likes it.
Oh shit. I specifically put this off since the LD looked so terrible.
There's the DVD ISO for a full 3 GB, which is a tiny bit too much. Can anyone make a nice mkv?
>>14174335
The LD didn't look that bad.
>>14174430
Blurry and washed out colors. Really terrible.
>>14174430
Compare this >>14159782 to that >>14159443. It's much easier to notice the details now.
>>14174618
The resolution and the details are much better on the DVD but I like the washed out colors of the LD don't know why.
>>14171614
Eat a bag of dick. Gampe is objectively the best mecha design of all time.
>>14175007
>I like the washed out colors of the LD
Me too.
>>14175007
>but I like the washed out colors of the LD don't know why.
muh nostalgia
>no mkv
I actually made an x264 MKV of the DVD two weeks ago, but I don't really know anything about filtering so there are these combing artifacts everywhere. I didn't think it was fit for release. I'm trying to figure out how to use Vapoursynth but I'm not doing so well.
>>14178989
I also made a x264 mkv from the DVD raw, but I too know very little about filtering or encoding, so I had similar concerns. I fixed the subs a bit as well though, so I might upload it anyway, if anyone is interested.
>>14179037
I think the actual encody-bits I did fine, it just looks bad due to the source. Also not sure how to handle the live-action bits, because I'm pretty sure they were filmed on tape, but I'm not too sure if they were or how I would handle it if they were.
Here's a DVD version: https://mega.nz/#!59JGBLQJ!MXYPxRJsK7OCXbQTzkNSc4ouU7y7FO0cmjKzRD0zQKg
It's not great, but hopefully a little better than the LD version for now. Edited and retimed the subs a little bit, might not be perfect though. Feel free to demux/edit the subs.
>>14179049
I look forward to seeing your results though, Dragon's Heaven deserves a better rip
>>14179161
Awesome! Been dying to watch this ever since I saw the news about the DVD rip. Thank you~
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>>14179161
>I look forward to seeing your results though, Dragon's Heaven deserves a better rip
There might be a release by Iznjie-Biznjie (ex Anime-FanRips).
>>14179161
What program do you use to stitch together the DVD vob files. I've been encoding them seperate with handbrake, but i'm really inexperienced.
Also, i've been punching
–profile high10 –preset slower –tune film –crf 17 –b-adapt 1 –bframes 16 –merange 24 –trellis 1 –input-depth 16
into handbrake with slower deinterlace, but i don't know if those do anything, or if they relate to ffmpeg or avisynth.
>>14180826
>Iznjie-Biznjie
That'd take too long. It'd be best for Orphan Fansubs to do something about it. I bet they'd even sub the making-of segment, as well.
>>14180344
Well, that was unexpected.
>>14179161
I also cleaned the subs at one point, i could provide my personal edit. The biggest changes were a few grammatical errors are fixed and there was a puzzling use of the phrase "battle robots" instead of the audible "Gampf"
>>14181034
That will suck. Only the live action elements need deinterlacing, the rest needs IVTC, else you will fuck up the nice remastered footage.
For vob files processing, I would suggest the traditional way, which is DGindex, then dgdecode in avisynth.
>>14181073
Looks it might get TLC, subbing the making off is probably too much to ask for.
>>14180337
>>14180340
>>14180343
>>14180344
What's this supposed to be??
>>14181424
Yeah i was about to say, when i use my media player's IVTC filter on the ISO, it looks perfect, that's what is needed more than anything else
>>14181596
The actual comic. It was a comic first. A lot of these 80's OVA are just glorified comic ads.
>>14182161
Well, the start of it. It's one of the short stories collected in >>14160027
And as the filenames indicate, it was also printed in the more recent comic anthology called "Robot" along with a bunch of unrelated stuff by other people.
>>14181034
I used handbrake too but honestly it was my first time encoding anything so I didn't mess around with it too much, it was more of just a test which is why it looks like ass. Not a good release, but something temporary at least until someone who knows what they're doing can make a release
>>14181106
I didn't make that many changes either, mostly grammar and rewording some of the more awkward sentences. I used 'Gampe' instead of 'Gampf' though since there seems to be a (slight) difference between the designs in the manga and the OVA. I'd be interested in seeing your changes though.
I might work on a v2 of the subs at some point to try and improve it but without a translation check I'm not confident how far to take the editing; it'd probably be better to leave it to someone else.
>>14182542
Yeah it'd be nice to get a translation check but whoever did the initial translation didn't do a horrible job, and all of my changes were grammatical, i did tweak a few of SHAIAN's lines (I'll probably want to get your opinion on the changes, i think we can fuse our sub tracks into one track) to use somewhat more "formal" phrasing, minor things like "I am" instead of "I'm".
>>14180344
I never quite understood what exactly the revelation here was, like, what is she?
>>14182161
My apologies. That's not what I meant to askwhat I really meant was what happened to Ikuru? She looks dead
>>14183017
>>14183026
I think the revelation is that he fought the Gampf because he thought it had Icool/Ikuru but it's actually a startlingly monstrous looking girl who isn't Icool/Ikuru
That seems reasonable. I feel like there's actually an interesting story in the Manga (which iirc the posted zip file isn't even the whole thing as its actually a long runner) what a shame nobody even HAS the issues, let alone the drive or ability to scanlate them.
>>14175742
Nah, I can see the appeal, although I prefer the DVD version. I feel like it does fit the idea of a post-apocalyptic civilisation that's come back into the semblance of normality, with old tech still kicking around; washed out, bleached by the sun, etc.
>>14178989
I'm not entirely on the up and up about this but usually anime is at 23.976 frames per second, and this release is at 30, so maybe there's some way you can de-telecine it?
>>14168133
I can see the color has been adjusted digitally. The original negative wasn't as faded as the LD but still subtler than the DVD.
Seems like they dialed up the contrast and DVNR'd that shit to bits
>>14185771
This is not artificially increased contrast, look at how the cloud isn't completely bright white with killed detail. It has a fairly natural look and it is not completely denoised either, although it doesn't have strong 16mm grain. Also no extra sharpening on the edges, I would be so glad if every remaster looked at least like this (although it has some rather starved frames here and there).
You don't know how did the negative look (well, aside from it being negative of course hehe), laserdisc's look isn't the golden standard for how is the thing supposed to look, when you get to look at cels, they are always much more colorful than older DVDs or laserdisc transfers.
So do I do the DVD or the LD?
>>14185799
dvd you dumb nigger
LD are always shit transfers. VHS usually look better. I haven't seen a single LD that I liked.
>>14185799
The DVD, the LD version (are we even 100 percent sure it was ripped from an LD? It looks like it could easily have been VHS) is horribly interlaced, low resolution, and bleached the fuck out. Not to mention the fact that it was a composite transfer to the disc/tape, transferred through composite again to the ripper's pc probably.
>>14185914
>is horribly interlaced, low resolution, and bleached the fuck out.
Welcome to Laser Disk rips. They're all like this.
>Not to mention the fact that it was a composite transfer to the disc/tape, transferred through composite again to the ripper's pc probably.
oh, that might explain it. So does this mean that we could get MUCH clearer rips if we just did new rips with better equipment? Perhaps even modified equipment?
>>14185919
Enjoy getting a professional composite capture card and special software to digitize the signal without any compression.
Before encoding the file is gonna be really big (bitrate of 60MB/s). So better prepare a really beefy drive array.
>>14185919
Here's the unfortunate bit.
All laserdiscs were recorded via Composite video, and all laserdisc players use composite output. The exceptions are a selection of S-video models, however those use hardware comb filters to reduce the crosstalk from the composite process, and they seperate the chrominace and luminace from the already mixed tranfers. No matter what, the video is interlaced as both s video and composite are interlaced signal formats, and they were recorded to the disc from some sort of tape, which was also interlaced.
A better encode, good filter chains, and tlc can make a rip like this better (see EGs work on G Gundam, which doesn't have line/comb/dot crawl artifacts), but in the end, it's thoroughly pointless, whenever the DVD is much more straightforward, clearer, and more accurate in color timing.
>>14185969
>but in the end, it's thoroughly pointless, whenever the DVD is much more straightforward, clearer, and more accurate in color timing.
...and a lot of these old obscure ova never got DVD releases, only LD.
>>14185985
I was referring to DH
>>14185799
Just look at those pictures, man. Switch back and forth.
>>14159443
>>14159782
I don't get how can somebody think this DVD is not a Godsent. I never hoped I could see the animation like this.
>>14185919
The very signal on LDs are composite video, that little yellow RCA jacks that have always sucked ass compared to everything other than RF modulated signals. Unless you have some kinda miracle tech it's not gonna look better than the DVDs
You might as well re-grade the DVDs to have coloring more like the LaserDisc, like how people have been retiming the colors in Star Wars for ages now.
>>14186062
I have pea brain so I ask stupid question. Sorry.
>>14186063
People mod gaming consoles to have output other than composite. Could the same be done for LD?
>>14186071
The problem here is that composite is what is coming out of the disc and reading head itself, you can't get anything else if that is what is stored on the rainbow disc. Think of it as a mono vinyl record on a stereo player - it can still only play mono.
>>14186071
You can get s video out on most of them at least.
>>14186071
Problem is that the Laserdisc doesn't generate a video, it's a recording and the recorded signal on there is a composite signal, stamped into the disc. With consoles you can tap into the graphics chips and pull out an RGB or digital signal and use that before it's modulated into composite video, but with a Laserdisc even the best player is still not gonna eliminate the bad colors, dotcrawls, rainbows, and whatnot. Laserdiscs are analog video, so the signal has already been reduced to a composite NTSC signal.
>>14186091
Absolutely, blatantly untrue.
>>14186070
Sorry, I didn't mean it as a jab.
>>14185985
Yes, you COULD greatly improve the rips, they wouldn't be DVD level, but they'd be somewhere between the quality of early DVD quality and "Robotech" quality (referring to the use of old worn
out broadcast tapes, anyone who's seen the Robotech or adv Macross dvds knows what I'm referring to)
>>14186091
See my post at
>>14185969
Yes, high end players had S Video but it's not true S Video.
>>14186292
oh okay, neat
I just know mine have all had svideo plugs lol
>>14186238
It wasn't, so don't worry about it. That's just me being a faggot.
Watched it. I specifically put it off since the LD was such shit quality.
Loved it. It was so gorgeous. It's Moebius tier.
>>14187082
>It's Moebius tier
Fuck is this shitty meme?
>>14191260
What, Kobayashi being a talented artist who takes a lot of influence from Moebius?
Don't think it's a meme, just an observation.
>>14191260
>doesn't know who moebius is
Disgusting
>>14191260
> Through Arzach, which dates from 1975, I believe. I only read it in 1980, and it was a big shock. Not only for me. All manga authors were shaken by this work. Unfortunately, when I discovered it, I already had a consolidated style so I couldn't use its influence to enrich my drawing. Even today, I think it has an awesome sense of space. I directed Nausicaä under Mœbius's influence.[40][41]
> Hayao Miyazaki.
>>14163546
How did you find out about the Dragon's Heaven in the first place? It sound interesting to me, and I want to find out a little bit more before I go seek it out.
>>14195127
I do, it's just the calling it Moebius tier makes no sense.
>>14197291
Are you slow?
>>14198084
No. Are you?
>>14197207
I honestly don't remember how I found it. I think I was just google image searching general mech stuff back in high school, thought it looked interesting, and watched the whole thing on Youtube. You don't need any background knowledge to get into it though, the whole things just a big show case of Kobayashi weirder designs. I watched un-subbed a few times and still enjoyed it, the visuals are that great.
Speaking of /m/anga, was that Angel Cop translation ever done?
>>14198176
Nope
>>14198211
Was there any progress?
>>14183535
Damn, can't even find the manga on amazon jp. Looks like it's back to camping on Mandarake.
I would love to see a new DH animated series, with some models/toys
>>14198176
Translation was done. Editor just went silent. Will upload the script again, if there is demand for it. Sry for hijacking thread
>>14212288
Try starting a thread on /a/ and dumping a few pages to attract editor/typesetter etc. Usually, once translations are done, the process gets easier that way.
