Independence Day
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HELLO, BOYS!
I'M BAAAAAAAAAAAAACK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfJgT89hEME
we macross now
>giant organic walkers
Yes. YES.
fucking horns, stop it you fucks
>>14145994
looks terribad desu
>>14146012
It's just a SFX cool video with planes and giant aliens. Don't ask for other good qualities.
Suspicious.
> Giant floating TV screens
Apparently one of the first things we did with alien technology was to make everything hover.
>>14145994
Well shit, that actually looks like it will be fun to watch.
>>14145998
>>14146001
Fuck yes
>>14146049
And glow teal.
>do you think we should shield this power source so it doesn't bathe everyone in blue light 24/7
>no, how would people know if it's on?
>well it'd drop out of the sky for one
>if constantly glowing obnoxious blue lights were good enough for Apple, they're good enough for us
Seems like a mix of Starship Troopers/X-Com and Macross.
>Gravity based weapon bulling buildings from the ground and drop them back
>Everything is bright orange
The fuck?
>>14146139
Orange and blue, my man.
>>14145994
I thought the hippy scientist died n the first one, but apparently not.
>>14145994
Ohhhh~ shit, this actually looks pretty fun. I'm excited for more pew pew plane time.
>>14146139
That's fire.
You'll notice the bow and underside of the giant alien ship is also bright orange, because it's coming into the atmosphere so fast. Not only that, but because it's so fucking massive, there's nowhere for the air to go but to get compressed and heat up. So the air under the ship (near to it, at least) is being superheated, which is igniting all of the materials being pulled up by its gravity. Then they're falling back down on fire. Also the sky is on fire.
What you should be asking is why the cities under the ship aren't getting blown the fuck away by pressure waves instead.the answer is it'd only look cool for all of two seconds before everyone down there is dead whereas running through multiple cities of falling landmarks is cool for minutes
>>14146150
Quote from Spiner himself:
>You walk through a casino and you see a lot of people on the ground, but so few of them are dead.
To put that in /m/ terms
>NO VAPE NO KILL
>>14146150
Wait, Prof Data is still alive? Wonder how they'll explain that.
>>14145994
>Let's show some fireworks
as much as i dislike the current will smith, he really shouldn't have turned this down. what an assface.
>>14146159
>>14146150
My guess, something something, telepathic link, something something, kept him alive.
It seems like both he and the President ended up with some long term side effects from making telepathic contact with an alien.
mostly it looks like any other action movie these days but fuck it, it it's got future planes and space battles, I'm in
>>14145994
>ID is 20 years old
I feel so old.
Why the fuck do the captive aliens still have their biosuits?
>>14146385
looked like their normal bodies to me. also that scene of the alien sperging out is ps1-level cgi.
>>14146385
remnants from africa according to earlier sources.
THAT'S GREAT
IT STARTS WITH
AN EARTHQUAKE
BIRDS AND SNAKES
AND AEROPLANES
LENNY BRUCE IS NOT AFRAID
People actually like this terrible movie? It was bad even in the 90s.
>>14146576
Only thing I was most miffed by in the first one was the exclusive use of Hornets instead of mixing it up and giving us Viper love too.
>>14146655
Falcons will never be famous like Tomcats, Eagles or Hornets. It is the GM of the US jets
>>14146576
Nobody ever pretended that it was a masterpiece even then. But even the most stoic of men cannot deny the awesomeness that is alien invasions, high-tech fighter planes and stuff blowing up.
Why do you think people still watch Gundam?
>>14146655
i had the biggest tomcat boner as a kid and hated the hornet. only saw a squadron of 14s for a few minutes. i get that the whole two seater thing may have been an issue plot wise, but jimmie could've been steve's navigator i guess.
also as a kid, as mich as i loved jets, i thought it was weird that the air force got first crack at the city-ships rather than any g2a missile units/shelling from ships or ground. seems like the a2a missiles just wouldn't pack the same punch.
>>14146692
someone has never watched Iron Eagle
>>14146709
best part of that movie was the use of steve winwood. i know topgun had editing issues in regard to what the fighers were doing in certain shots, but iron eagle would straight up switch falcons with different paint jobs between shots like no one would notice.
Based Emmerich is back and he's here to save summer blockbusters
>>14146757
I've heard that before.
>>14146197
we super robot now
>>14146784
Huh?
>>14146159
The explanation is literally "they didn't say he died, so he didn't die".
The first film originally had a line that said he was dead, but they cut it. That's the only reason he's in this movie.
>>14146159
>choke a guy for a few seconds
>he falls to the floor
>check his pulse
>shake your head
He MUST be dead.
He's even wearing a scarf now to cover up his hideous neck scars from being throttled by alien tentacles.
Didn't Goldblum's character watch SDF Macross?
The first thing they should have done after the first alien war, was to build colony ships and spread humanity all over the galaxy.
>>14146576
It's Rocky 4 with aliens.
>>14147167
no Transformers music, though
>>14147159
Maybe they couldn't make FTL ships and couldn't make STL colony ships big enough?
>>14146576
>People actually like this terrible movie? It was bad even in the 90s
Yeah it belongs in the "it's so bad it's good" category.
>>14147285
Fuck that garbage mindset.
>>14146692
Eagles and Tomcats would have been nice too. IMO, Vipers were just as famous as Hornets in the public eye.
>>14147298
>Fuck that garbage mindset.
I adore ID4, but lets get serious here. Negotiating computer virus with alien tech ? It's one of the worst cop outs I've ever seen. The writers must have been out of ideas as to how to end the film. It's a silly film, but in its silliness stands its epicness.
>>14147325
There were Tomcats and Harriers in the background in a few scenes.
The reason for the Naval/Marine planes is probably because they took out the air bases on land. There was a scene where they attacked an air base, and you can clearly see some F-16s on the ground.
>>14147342
So what you're telling me is I should rewatch ID4 and slow-mo through the explosions. Sounds like a solid plan.
>>14145994
This looks like high quality cheese. Will watch.
>>14146701
I still have a raging Tomcat boner. Everytime I see one in real life, my heart races. Raptor is my runner up jetfu.I believe the Eagle to be overrated, but not undeserving of prestige.
>>14147399
>overrated
>literally has zero deaths to 100 kills
Its got the best combat record of any 4th gen fighter aircraft and it can fly with only one wing.
>planefags
AA HELs can hurry up and get the fuck here. Any day now!
>>14147399
>every time I see one in real life
Iranian detected
>>14147412
>zero death
Actually not true. A couple of F-15Es were shot down in the Gulf War.
>>14145994
EDF! EDF!... I mean, ESD!
>>14147298
To be fair, I don't think ID4 is "so bad it's good". Too many people use that phrase since on the internet the rating scale only has a 1 and a 10, with no numbers in-between. (Plus people love using "so bad it's good" as a kafka trap to keep being from defending the shows they like.
If anything it ID4 is more camp, or "popcorn flick" than it is a horrible, horrible film that people watch for unintentional comedy. It's not high art, it doesn't make you think, and it's not complicated. But it isn't trying to be any of those things, it would seem silly to judge it by those standards. It's a very simplistic story about "AMERICA FUCK YEAH!" defeating aliens.
I think it's better to grade the flim for what it's trying to do. Did people boo the aliens when they blew up shit? Did they cheer when the aliens got blown up? Did they laugh at the cheesy one liners?
People watch cheesy campy shit like the first season of Power Rangers, or Adam West Batman and like it for what it is. Not that they think it's a bad show that's so horrendous, they like it.
I can understand why people think ID4 is a bad show, but I can understand why people legitimately enjoy it.
>>14147412
I thought we were talking aesthetics, hence the not undeserving of prestige. I had hoped I wouldn't garner that reply or those like your, but I should've been more clear.
>>14147418
No.
>>14147423
Read again that line.
Those pilots ejected. So zero deaths to I think 105. That's an oldish number so Killcount is probably higher now.
>>14147446
Aesthetics wise I think it holds up damn well to the Tomcat.
Sure it might not have sexy swingwings, but those dynamic airflow scoops are pretty cool.
>>14147446
That's not how it works. If the plane was shot down, it's a kill. It doesn't matter if the pilots eject.
Over a hundred F-15s were lost in collisions, accidents, and due to mechanical failure. Many of those pilots didn't survive.
>>14147399
F-15 was the uber fighter back during Cold War and still superior to 95% of military fighters that exist today.
>>14147467
I think its still got the most AtA kills out of active US fighters
>>14147298
You're on /m/. 90% of the shows/movies talked about here, whether they are anime or live action here are toy commercials.
F-15 is a beast, though I'm still a Viperfag through and through. I blame Strike Commander.
>>14147552
Oh man, strike commander was amazing.
>>14146166
>current will smith
what happened?
>>14147582
He became a no-fun limp wristed faggot who cried to his wife when he didn't get an oscar nomination because "muh racism"
>>14146161
I enjoyed that line.
>>14147474
Considering it's the oldest it should.
>>14147582
90s will smith v. 00/10w will smith. think about it.
>>14147582
Never got to his barbecue.
>>14147582
He just ain't fresh
>>14146012
>horns
>not the most based instruments
Kill yourself woodwind fag. Besides, there is as much strings, if not more, in that as horns.
>>14147638
Not necessarily, its only 2 years older than the Falcon and there are way more Falcons out there than Eagles. I'm still lost on why the Falcon was called a Fighter and not a Multirole
>>14146166
Theres Rumors of Will wanting bring his son to act in the movie.
>>14147836
unfounded rumors. he just thinks he's above this type of movie now.
>>14147836
>Rumors of Will
My old high school band name.
>>14147499
That has nothing to do with that mindset.
>>14147582
He literally joined the Church of Scientology.
>>14147855
i hope you did a bunch of post-hardcore covers of 'willenium'.
>>14147849
Thank goodness, the fewer movies Will Smith is in, the better.
>>14147868
We covered Will 2K but it wound up as a straight run through of Rock the Casbah.
>>14147878
>>14147849
>tfw no Wild Wild West 2
>>14147849
No, he just wanted too much money.
Roland was the one who rejected him, not the other way around.
>>14147932
i've also heard he turned it down because he was weary of sci-fi movies after 'after earth' bombed so hard, which is actually admirable, whether or not you agree with him.
>>14146757
I refuse to give him my shekels because he wants to reboot Stargate.
>>14146576
Bruh, I watch it every time it's on cable. Shit's entertaining as fuck.
>>14148324
I liked the Stargate movie, but Stargate is better off without Emmerich.
>>14147944
instead he goes into capeshit.
>>14147167
But they never taught the aliens that EVERYBODY CAN CHANGE
>>14148381
Same, it's one of my favorite scifi adventure movies along with the tv shows.except for universe, we don't talk about that one.
>>14148436
HEARTS ON FIIIIIIRE
>>14148452
DRAGOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
>>14148398
Least that makes reliable money
>>14145994
Wow I was expecting a horrible train wreck but instead got something that looks really fun.
Damn it we just rebuilt everything.
>>14149510
It's a fun horrible train wreck.
BUGS CONFIRMED
>>14146784
STAY TUNED FOR THE CROSSOVER SEQUEL
>INDEPENDENCE DAY ON THE PACIFIC RIM
>>14145994
well that looks like shit
What if the planes turn into mechs, Macross style, like halfway through the movie? That's certainly unlikely, but who knows, maybe they're keeping it under wraps.
>>14146012
HORNS
FADE IN AND OUT NON-STOP
HOOOORNS
FADE IN AND OUT NON-STOP
HOOOOOOORNS
jesus fucking christ I hate this fucking trend
>>14149643
It's [current year]. Horns are epic. Female singing while the world is destroyed in slow-motion is epic. Get with the times.
>>14149637
>Plane mech punches one of the organic alien walkers in the face
>Pilot says "Welcome to Earth!"
/tv/'ll go apeshit, just you wait.
>>14149578
>the Kaiju dimension tries to invade the Independence Day universe
Oh baby I'd pay to see that movie.
>>14149656
Would she happened to be singing about how her boyfriend is a pilot?
>>14149699Kyun kyun?
>>14149699
Nope, about how he'sa very Messiah.
omg is that jaden smith?
>>14149774
no.
How the fuck did Brent Spiner survive ? he was confirmed dead in the original movie
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCqaElFZUIw
Why is Jeff Goldblum so kawaii?
>>14149805
>tfw Jeff will never be the main HQ commander in the next EDF video game.
>>14149822
His loyalties would always be in question, seeing how he's 1/3rd housefly.
>>14146047
kek
>>14149637
Harmony Gold and Sony would sue them
>>14147826
Because those memesters the "fighter mafia" wanted their pure lightweight air superiority craft instead of an actually useful aircraft.
>>14150409
The Falcon is a useful aircraft, its just arbitrarily called a Fighter when its a Multirole
>>14150450
That's literally what I just said.
Boyd and company wanted some lightweight no frills fighter aircraft, and the Falcon was what they came up with.
Its just later on when everyone else realized that it also needed to drop bombs and provide CAS.
>>14149796
They didn't say he was dead, so he wasn't dead.
That's the explanation.
>>14147325
Main reason you only see Hornets in the foreground and others in the background in ID4 is because they had to CGI all the planes. They had the military's support (à la Top Gun) at first but they lost it when they wouldn't give up at mentioning Area 51.
>>14149578
YES! MAKE IT HAPPEN, BASED DEL TORO!
>>14146576
I love it on a technical level. It's special effects are still impressive today.
>>14146566
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEYc8ar2Bpw
>Goldbum's in the seqeul
On one hand, I'm glad. On the other hand, I fear they might have to kill him off.
>>14150578
Pfft, he can't even get PR2 happen.
>>14150578
>It's done by Michael Bay
>>14155622
It'd be the same either way.
>expected the worst of the worst because of the remakes of meme movies are bad meme
>actually looks like a fun watch
>even removed the Will Smith from cast
Absolutely did not see that coming. Very excite.
>>14149557
>when it hovers around the corner and then instead of chopping the father and son it shoots a laser instead
>>14151887
To be fair the whole fucking world has it out for him in terms of things he wants to make.
>>14155890
>whole fucking world
Seems to be mainly the execs. His movies of late tend to have really bad advertising. For instance, despite having Hiddleston playing a major role in Crimson Peak, there wasn't much of a hype and promotions for the film.
![ROTF_Jetfire[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/PPe0iKL.jpg "ROTF_Jetfire[1].jpg")
>>14149917
Neither of them own the rights to transforming planes.
>>14147426
You
I like you
>all this returning cast
But will it have Harry Connick Jr as a pilot again?
>They pretty much set up a flashier XCOM after the first alien attack
VIGILO CONFIDO, FUCKERS
>>14149917
Not only do Harmony Gold and Sony NOT have any real copyright on transforming planes (anything Transformers), Sony doesn't have any real leg to stand on anyway; Absolutely nothing is being done on the proposed Robotech movie except that everyone's waiting on some no-name bum to finish a script.
That's what happens when you buy distribution rights to a near-death franchise that's filled with copyright quicksand in some mad grab of starting your own franchise, only to find out that the company you bought it from has no script or real plans of making any movie. Not to mention that their hired producer is someone you fired and disowned years ago because he costed you millions over a cinematic clusterfuck that was supposed to be your company's grand entrance into the cinematic business.
The planned director, james Wan, has already moved on and is signing deals to do real green-lit projects. Meanwhile, Sony themselves are too busy reeling from the loss of their Spiderman Marvel universe, dealing with damage control on Ghostbusters, and the only things they're planning to make bank on in their pipeline is Angry Birds, more Underworld, and more Bad Boys. Nobody gives a shit about Robotech.
>>14157192
The yids at HG must be using some serious black magic to keep the Robotech IP chugging along.
>>14147627
god forbid he should be faithful to his wife, no matter how stupid she is
>>14147582
iirc the rumor was that he said he would be in the movie if his son was in it, so their answer was to kill him off
>>14157206
Good call on Rolands part.
Jayden is box office poison.
>>14157213
still it's just a rumor, but it sounds too great not to spread it like a fact
>>14157192
what about resident evil?
>>14157192
>reeling from the loss of their Spiderman Marvel universe
They didn't lose Spidey, they made a deal with Marvel Studios. Sony still has rights to make and distribute Spider-Man movies. Marvel can use him in team-ups and Sony agreed to use the actor that Marvel cast so their new reboot can be tied in to all that MARVEL box-office.
>>14157247
I never said they lost him, only that Sony had to toss their original plans for their own Marvel universe in the garbage because because their own Spiderman movies weren't making enough money, and this deal they made is their only real solution of 'saving' what they have. They have to split profits and piggy-back on someone else's work; A pretty big far cry from Sony's intentions of creating their own franchises to bank on.
>>14157218
That too, and Ratchet and Clank, come to think of it. All the more reason why Sony is focused on more important matters than trying to resurrect Robotech from the grave.
>>14157196
They've been selling toys and comics for nostalgia money from incredibly gullible fans at unreasonably high prices for years. Why break tradition now?
>>14147878
Hey now, he isn't Adam Sandler bad just yet.
>>14146001
Nah, thats actually their queen.
