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What do you want on the next Armored Core games? Me, I want re-mastered classic Armored Core games.
>>14134284
Yeah give us shitty ports made quickly for a cash grab that's what everyone wants
>>14134284
waifus.
Nineball is a better posterboy than White Glint
Now that Dark Souls is over, I hope From will make AC games again.
>>14134284
I want FromSofts legitimate attempt at making AC into a strong franchise like souls.
>>14135179
Aaliyah is best 4-era design.
postan
>>14135291
Visually maybe, but it can't withstand its own power drain and it's pretty garbo basically
>>14135179
Same. I just want them to capitalize on what is already great about the series. More territory stuff, more ai/unac customization, more parts, more tuning, bigger maps and of course better matchmaking and a satisfying campaigns with good bosses. Having pilotable transports for the operators and making it a 8 v 8 or 16 v 16 game would be pretty sick. Did they scrap the arena concept? Should be a fun thing to do inbetween mercenary work/missions. Bring hover legs back definitely. Possibly have the Risk elements again, control all the continents on Earth then do the same thing in space and on Mars. Keep the 3 faction thing. Love having a war on two fronts at all times.
>>14134274
The only reason I haven't bought a next gen system yet is because No Mans Sky isn't out yet and I still want to squeeze out a few more months of VD since it's oddly active lately.
>>14134274
What's everyones favorite weapons, characters, tropes in AC?
I love gattling guns, machine guns, shields and battle rifles. Chemical howitzers are cool. I'm a softie for anything 9 Ball related and I always enjoyed that theres a "America Corporation" in every game.
>>14135179
>I want FromSofts legitimate attempt at making Chromehounds into a strong franchise like souls.
fixed that for you
>>14135678
>weapon
Hi-laser in gen 1, bazooka in 3-universe, rifle and those stupid wing laser cannons in 4-universe, kicking people in the face in 5-universe
>character
Whichever variation on the AI God is around in this cycle, although I'm fonder of Sera Cross than Lana Nielsen
Also Wynne MUH IDEALS Fanchon in 4
>>14135678
>weapon
Machine guns, bazookas, sniper rifles.
>character
Amazigh, Roadie, Jack Batty.
>>14135816
Admit it you just like Roadie because of his accent
>>14135820
Yes.
>>14135654
1v1 me son and see what happens.
For real, though, replace the generator with an Omer one, and the stock Hitmans with Motorcobras and it is one of the best close range NEXTs available.
Rayleonard made the single fastest targeting system by a pretty wide margin, and it's PA rectification will keep it safe from the occasional shot you'll take during your constant quick-boosting.
Anyone remember when AC's looked like humans? And not offshore oil rigs?
Show me your greatest designs from any series.
>>14135654
>hating aaliyah
>>14136745
Merrygate is a sweet girl.
>>14134274
Firepower > aesthetics >>> practicality
The only way to build an AC.
>>14134284
I want the next Armored Core game to exist
>>14136404
That's the worst shop i've ever seen in my life
Alright bitches
Whos gonna win, Gundams or NEXTs?
>>14137796
The machine is just a tool in the hands of a pilot.
Ravens are probably some of the most skilled mecha pilots ever created, only a few Gendums could keep up with Ravens, even by having a superior machine.
I mean, AC MCs always took on impossibly stronger enemies that had extreme tech advantage. Phantasma, Nineball, the martian mechs in 2, IBIS, Pulverizers, you name it, unless you're going to bring the Turn A or Quanta, chances are your average gendum is getting rekt by a tin can.
>>14136404
Why Singapore, though?
Background is plain as bread..
do ACs have names or what? because i've never heard of another named AC that isn't nineball or white glint
>>14137899
Well, there is Banshee, Clown Face, Blue Magnolia, Oracle, Heaven's Ray, and the list goes on.......
>>14137918
so where exactly do you find the names? i've been wanting to know the names of the cover ACs for a while.
>>14137921
Just google AC wiki or Forums man
Best husbando.
>>14138006
Get rekt son.
>>14137918
Blue Magnolia is the name of the pilot, her AC name is R.I.P.3/M
>>14138040
Oops, sorry mate, its 3 am in here soo got my head tanked a bit.
Also, post your favourite core anon/anonetes
>>14135172
>Now that Dark Souls is over,
Heh you wish, From is gonna ride that gravy train for the next decade at least.
>>14137921
Anybody ranked has a name in the games' registers, and that makes almost every character with a robot. And in V era games I believe the scan mode tells you the unit's name along with its stats.
>>14135678
Weapon wise I like having a wide range available, with a particular preference for full automatics and grenade launchers.
I like any character that's colourful, which is most of them, though I'm one of those people who can't help but go all gooey for May Greenfield.
Oh! And Serene Haze, the best operator by a mile.
Behold the ultimate edgelord.
>>14139649
>There is no place for me other than the battlefield. To live as I please, and die a senseless death. That is who I am, not a mere man of flesh.
You're not kidding.The beam magnum/kojima rifle is a nice touch.
>>14139657
Man that's pretty.But as if there'd ever be that much wildlife on the surface anywhere by the time they rolled the Latona out.
AI did nothing wrong. Humans are scum.
>>14139722
Nineball is the hero the world deserved.
>>14139738
It's true, they always fuck it up.
AC2 ended with one major clusterfuck of a war and then it immediately resumed in AA.
AC3 ended with unambiguously happy ending only to be shat on with Nexus.
Don't even need to mention to what happened after FA.
>>14139777
And in spite of everything humans do to fuck themselves again and again, Nineball still does his best to protect them from themselves, the ungrateful bastards.
Koto White Glint restock fucking when.
>>14134321
i second this. waifus simulator with multiple story routes just like Fire Emblem please.
>>14135678
personally I'm a fan of the "Missile Boat" concept, still remember back when Tips & Tricks magazine had a dedicated Armored Core column, so many cool designs showed up there, still remember the International Armored Core tournament they did(which is where I first heard of the Missile Boat concept as that was what Mexico's entry was built as)
>>14135179
this design is pretty damn awesome,there are no fancy wings, just very nice edges and good complex machinery underneath the armor.
>>14134321
>>14141307
This would probably assure great success. Just make half the game a dating sim and people will flock to it at the cost of your franchise's dignity.I've never even seen anybody talk about the gameplay of FE Fates, just their waifu petting simulator.
>>14141596
Because FE got hijacked by fat otaku scum. Waifus are cancer.
>>14141596
>not having corefus
>>14138098
White gurin corefu, forever and always
>>14137899
Every core had a name. The arena tells you their pilot's and AC's name.
>>14134284
Instead of playing as a pilot, have us run an entire PMC.
>mfw using full human+ and activating LIMITER RELEASE ON TOP OF IT HOLY SHIT
GOD DAMN so much fun. Such a cheesy and animu ability but it oddly fits. I didn't even know about it the first time I played AC2.
Pity they took it out after AA. I mean I get it not being there for Nexus and Last Raven seeing how these were trying to achieve the best balance without even the H+ but not seeing this feature in 3 and SL is a real pity. Hell not having overweight-ignore in 3/SL is also kinda disheartening seeing how they give you OP-I and break your balls to achieve maximum usefulness out of it.
Oh well, this way every entry and its expansion is somewhat unique with its features. AC2/AA had traditional H+ with Limiter Release, AC3/SL had Extra Arena and awesome customizable AI and Nexus/LR had the best overall balance and new controls.
>>14145203
I miss Limiter Release more than I miss Plussie shit, even if it was basically unlimited energy for a few seconds, I'm just a sucker for releasing limiters on mechs.
Besides, it's not like Human+ would have much use today besides weight limit restrictions, you already have shitload of energy since AC4, you can fart overboost and use shoulders weapons almost completely freely as opposed to classic AC, I don't see Human+ returning since it would only mean some global stat boost and weight limit removal.
And in certain games like 4 it didn't have much sense anyway, everyone was plussie scum in there.
>>14139649
AC6 should just pick up after the 4-4A, V-VD timeline.
As the Closed Plan is canon, have descendants of those who departed return to Earth a couple years after VD to see how things are going.
Maybe have the whole environmental contamination issue with Kojima particles eliminated, or at least drastically reduced to still make NEXT (and Arms Fort!) usage viable by these advanced space-faring humans. The shitters on Earth can still use the Normals of V-VD and other large-scale weapons.
Then just set it up as a much more peaceful faction of humanity coming to check on the welfare of Earth/those who stayed behind, and being summarily greeted by their rock-banging asshole descendants. Aside from being grossly outnumbered by these fucking cavemen-tier people with their gay Normal ACs, maybe have the NEXT users be stranded on or above Earth by an accident on their spacecraft (or intentionally stuck in Earth orbit as part of a recolonization plot by some cunt (s)).
The Numeric disadvantage can be explained by it being a small expeditionary force.
Numeric inferiority should balance out allowing these refined NEXTs to fly forever, carry vastly superior weapons, have vastly superior sensors and mobility, and be much more durable.
>>14145672
>play as super speshul elf humans killing undeveloped underdogs by the millions
No sir I don't like it. Thematically AC is about humans struggling against greater forces and only temporarily prevailing, not about Dynasty Warriors Gundam.
I think fans are clinging to 4/FA timeline too much. It was there to highlight the peak and fall of humanity both with technology and with planet itself seeing how the countries were still recognizable. Playing in ruins of once great empires is where it's all at anon. Remember, from AC4 and onward it was all Miyazaki's idea, who continued the AC trend of "paradise lost", much like FROM's other popular franchise.
Not strictly Armored Core related, but I'm designing a VR mech game.
What are your favorite gameplay elements you'd want to see carried over from AC?
And how can I improve this mecha design?
>>14145672
>gay Normal ACs
Get out, Plussie.
>>14145700
>>14145672
>Thematically AC is about humans struggling against greater forces and only temporarily prevailing, not about Dynasty Warriors Gundam.
Well then flip it around, you play as the underdogs who gundamjack an AC and go full Turn A versus the superadvanced moonrace.
>>14141562
I know right?!
I legitimately love the NEXTs, particularly the Aaliyah/Rayleonard designs, and think they're some of the best 'plausible' sanic-speed mecha.
The Aaliyah in particular, looks like something that spent time in a wind tunnel. It's a fighter jet crossed with an F1 racer, given limbs and weapons. All those vanes, the intakes, the swooping lines which look purposeful rather than some artist going "gotta be pointy and edgy looking".
I love the stabiliser system in 4/FA: the best way to rationalise all the pointy greebles that usually hang off mecha, as control surfaces and counterweights to balance out things like additional weapon systems. The fact that all these things enable the NEXT to turn on a fucking dime out of a 1000km/h boost.
Plus, I love that in the lore the Aaliyah is the first gen of NEXT: and that by For Answer it's considered an outdated design that can nonetheless hold its own in the right hands. It's like the early Migs.
>>14145716
That would make the main character a super speshul somebody.
Give me corrupt politicians, warmongering corporations, allies who are destined to fuck something up or get fucked and bunch of nobodies please.
Less super robots more real robots.
>>14145708
Make its legs shorter, or give it some reason to have long legs
>>14145720
>I love that in the lore the Aaliyah is the first gen of NEXT: and that by For Answer it's considered an outdated design that can nonetheless hold its own in the right hands. It's like the early Migs.
I liked this too. In 4 they're considered these unorthodox but still soundly designed machines that take up a lot of skill to truly utilize and by FA they're powered solely by going "FUCK YOU I STILL GOT THIS".
>>14145728
>That would make the main character a super speshul somebody.
If you want to look at it that way, most of the AC protags are special, wouldn't be changing anything. Goes all the way back to AC1.
>Leos Klein, takes out Nineball and 9Seraph, tries to recreate the Axis Drop
>MC of 2 takes out Klein and his faction
>Phantasma MC stops uberspecial Stinger and Phantasma
>4 MC is skilled enough to solo 4 NEXTs on his own (Hardmode for 4 is the canon route)
>FA MC kills literally everything, Arteria Carpals (HARD)
You get the picture.
>>14145743
I think the difference would be between 'some everydude who pulls off the craziest feats' and 'here is the gundam protagonist'. The protags of those games have nothing special about them to start with, nothing that differentiates them from their allies or rivals.
>>14145746
Not >>14145743 but isn't the VD MC apparently a special someone? I think it was one of Fatman's conditions for choosing his partner is that they had to be really good or show signs of being really good/special.
>>14145743
They're not THAT special nor are they important enough for a plot to revolve around them. It's always a greater conflict and you just choose a side that will prevail, albeit a little. They're always a drop that spill the cup, just edging out by the end of the game. None of those feats are acomplished by somebody who suffered an animu protag power bestowment and did it all by himself with his super special magic robot.
AC main ravens are just good enough pilots who happen to be on the right side in the right time by the end of the games.
>>14145743
Klein was an exception and an experiment in the series, all the other MCs were literal whos Ravens who got too gud for the competition.
>>14145749
You have a point, but on the other hand that's one guy using his intuition; your VD protag is still for all intents and purposes some shitheel using a junker AC. It's a world away from 'here is the guy with his stolen super robot fighting against the technologically advanced villains with their super robots'.
>>14145749
Yeah in a sense that you passed the qualification or are just recognized as someone with potential. Much like when they test you in almost every beginning. It's still a grand conflict with greater powers involved and a bunch of people fighting in between.
There's a difference between MC snowflake overpowered center of attention harem master and a nobody with decent skills who is on equal footing like everybody else around them.
>>14145751
>Last Raven
Where the entire ending revolves around you
>4A
Where you literally murder everything because you felt like it, prompting them to actually stop you and form a plan around you
>AC main ravens are just good enough pilots who happen to be on the right side in the right time by the end of the games.
And Nexus where you fucking die at the end of it.
>>14145762
>And Nexus where you fucking die at the end of it.
Well the Nexus pilot wasn't that good then.
>4A
I'll give you that one because AMS and the whole NEXT thing is just psychic shit. I mean just look at that special son of a bitch CUBE, taking out White fucking Glint, the Protag of 4.
>>14145762
You're not getting it.
Those are all nobodies who happen to emerge victorious against their peers. In LR you're the last one standing but other than that you're a literal who and that's the point. A literal nobody with no Human plus modifications beat his superiors. The conflict would still move without you. The war would've waged and ended without your influence. LR mc just upset the balance in one way or the other. Play the missions in other path and read the battle statistic of how other missions played out without your or other people's involvement; LR is Butterfly effect: the game. Much like 4A and even then you're not alone nor that important, at least not until the very end.
>And Nexus where you fucking die at the end of it.
Yeah, exactly. You die much like everyone else around you.Although if you import the save you can take it as you surviving the suicide drones, same as Jack-O. The screen only faded to black.
>>14145762
>Where the entire ending revolves around you
It doesn't?
Most endings haveyou fight against other factions that survived the ordeal or some raven, the only ending that really revolves around you is the one where Jack, Evangel and Zinaida die, aka the Final Pulverizer ending, all the rest has someone else being the star of the show, be it Jack, Zinaida, Evangel or whatever.
Besides, this>>14145777
In every AC you're a literal nobody with no special tricks, hell, the whole reason why everyone is either scared of you or treat you like an absolute madman is BECAUSE you're a nobody who's too good for his own good, no Human+, no special snowflake AC like Stinger, no big, secret organization backing you up, you're just a fucking Dominant who shits on everyone because of SKILL.
In AC you're basically a no name Char, or better, a no name Jenius.
>>14145782
>aka the Final Pulverizer ending,
Isn't that the canon one/the one considered canon for LR though?
>>14145787
>Isn't that the canon one/the one considered canon for LR though?
Ask FROM.
>>14145782
>the whole reason why everyone is either scared of you or treat you like an absolute madman is BECAUSE you're a nobody who's too good for his own good
This nails it. Really visible in LR and FA. In LR, Evangel goes full inferiority complex if you don't go into his faction and start killing his guys early on. This is because YOU the nobody did all this on your own accord. A random fuck getting in his way one way or the other. He and Zinaida, both overpowered H+ recognize the LR as a true dominant if you, yourself, took the hardest missions for the hardest path.
In FA, you're regarded as a mindless animal because that's all they see in you. You have no characterization other than people going "this mute asshole goes around killing everybody" if you choose that path.
>>14145787
It's FROM so it's up to your interpretation, as always. They just like implying and hinting shit leaving it up to the player which is why their protagonists are usually nobodies.
Alright guys, tell me. What did you choose? Destroy or Defend Line Ark?
>>14145801
Shit, forgot to add "And why?". Stupid phone.
>>14145801
Destroy of course. That's what they get for taking in all immigrants.
They gets dissolved because of that anyway so might as well pull out the cancer right away.
>>14145801
Defend.
Because I'm not a cunt like Oatsdarva.
>>14135654
Fashion Core, bitch.
>>14141596
Because royals destroy any difficulty the game has and your lord is a ubermensch no matter how you build them, jam a couple of people like Effie on the team and you win, actual difficulty comes from using characters that weren't blessed with good bases and backdrawless 1~2 range swords.
Oh and online was unkillable knights and their pegapony delivery service last I played so have fun with that.
>>14135179
Impossible, giant robots just aren't marketable.
>>14145845
We need to make mecha great again.Or just time travel back into the 80s, that would be easier.
>>14134304
>I don't know what remastered means please fuck my faggot face.
>>14145762
>And Nexus where you fucking die at the end of it.
Fuck that, I OBed right off the side of the city. They can die on their own.
>>14134321
>>14141307
You people disgust me to no end.
>>14134884
>>14134887
>>14134891
I wish somone could translate those books.
>>14141562
>no fancy wings
Pardon?
>>14145708
Different type of legs, and by the love of GodPut those core with gun barrel on it, like the one in Last Raven coverLove those.
>>14145720
>, I love that in the lore the Aaliyah is the first gen of NEXT: and that by For Answer it's considered an outdated design that can nonetheless hold its own in the right hands. It's like the early Migs.
Yeah that's really cool, but despise that, the Aaliyah is still a good frame, just get a better generator for the Energy issue.
I wish Rayleonard survived 4 so we could get a second model from themLAHIRE is heresy.
>>14146409
I'm thinking about putting giant ducts in the legs for pic related.
Weapon loadouts will be player-customizable, so you can have chest cannons or Macross missiles.
>>14145728
>super speshul somebody
In a way, this is a theme in the serie, Last Raven and V-VD adress this. But is no handle in the way like gundam.
From time to time a really skilled pilot will appears, he will dominate in the battlefield, and whoever manage to get him in his side, probably have the war in the pocket (Last Raven), but usually this pilot is a wild gun and is rare to him to take a side, this makes him a really dangerous factor in the ongoing conflict, to the point that is better to kill him before is to late than allow it to make a impact (Verdict Day and until some point V)
AC have the theme of the existance of this dominants, usually normal pilots (on Last Raven everyone minus the player have H+) humans that have a huge potencial when put on a AC, and no matter what you will only kill him with another Dominant (Leon and Anatolias merc)
>>14145770
>CUBE, taking out White fucking Glint, the Protag of 4.
For me, seeing how OMER and Aspina have a lot of things in the shadows, while no explicit stated in the game, they did something to take down White Glint, like somekind of special weapon or something.
>>14137796
NEXTS are pretty big and have flight capability in atmo, something Gundams tend to lack until later in the timeline
But that's F91, so Gundams
>>14146457
Nah, CUBE fucked him in the eyesocket.
you guys have something against the destruction path of FA, right?
>>14146464
>NEXTS are pretty big
They aren't. They're around 10 meters.
>>14137796
Even with the super powers that gundams have, a NEXT have the quickboost sytem, probably allowing it to evade melee without much problem, also even the medium ranks pilots on AC are really skilled pilots, while many gundams are just regulars soldiers with a advanced machine, in terms of pure skill a AC or NEXT will win HARD.
>>14136753
There is a reason Merry is usually used as a waifu for nips ACfags, she is just so damn nice
So what will happen if you put a AC protag on a Gundam? World domination by himself?
>>14146466
But how the hell CUBE manage to take down white glint in a second?
Usually after Otsdarva death he just says
>Initiating plan D
and WG goes down, theres something there, and rememeber that in the hard mode against White Glint he revives after killing him once!
Kasumi Sumika best operator and Sensei.
>>14146516
He's just that good nigga.
>>14145734
In 4A they're practically antiques. No one produces parts for them anymore, so what's in circulation is all that there'll ever be, which is why it's the only machine your operator can afford if you go independent.
Of course, 4A era parts can be used to rectify the Aaliyah's design flaws and really make it shine.
>>14146525
> A pilot usually used for test and using just machineguns takes down a previous protagonist in a second without using anything special
There is something fishy there.
>>14146543
He literally gave him the D.
>>14146536
>Your operator is a ex-Interior pilot
>Still have her mech
I bet the interior craft is the canon one since she could call for some favor to get a shiny new NEXT to her new student.
>>14146558
Yeah, but the trade off is that you'd have to pilot an Tellus, and who wants that? Besides, corps don't do freebies. Come to think of it, does Sumika sound like the kind of person who gives out freebies? I doubt it, she's a fan of tough love.
>>14146521
No doubt.
>>14145700
> It was there to highlight the peak and fall of humanity both with technology and with planet itself
4/FA actually serves as a thematic prequel to the classics, on the classics you usually were in a world after a war destroy it and everybody is living getting the scraps they can, and is clear that with those super weapons you fight, that the past civilization had a greater tech than the current time.
On 4 time, you are living that era, you are a pilot of those super weapons, and you are part of the war that is destroying the world, even if you don't realize.
>>14146578
Yeah, 4/FA was the "Great Destruction" that pushed the humanity underground in separated AI controlled layered. It's obvious from the sheer scale of it all and from what they did to the surface.
Come V/VD everything is in the gutter and after IX was defeated Nine-Ball was formed seeing how that one lady AI and him have the same Japanese VA of dual voiced Nine-Ball/Seraph in MoA.
>>14146604
Actually, considering how badly fucked things were prior to AC1, it's actually possible there were *two* great destructions. One caused by Kojima pollution, and once that pollution receded one caused by a conflict (the Verdict War?) where someone built and fired off a really big satellite weapon and drove everyone underground again.
>>14146604
>Come V/VD everything is in the gutter and after IX was defeated Nine-Ball was formed seeing how that one lady AI and him have the same Japanese VA of dual voiced Nine-Ball/Seraph in MoA.
Why people try to unite VD timeline with the classics? Is not the same
>>14146616
There's material that suggests it could be possible, and you know how FROM likes to hint at things.
>>14146616
It's fun to speculate when Miyazaki is at helm. IX being 9-ball is a pretty strong case. This is also his team's DLC theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E5vup40fUl4
>>14146622
then please share that material, one thing is having similar elements, like constant during different works (like char and his clones) and one thing is being the same continuity.
>>14146626
Sure.
http://pastebin.com/Y4AMbSPv
This material was translated from an official website, and appears to imply a few links between V/VD and AC1
>>14146642
Pity how these things tend to go missing in the west due to shoddy localization. At least a more lore heavy Souls series is handled better.
>>14146475
That's big anon
f91 and Victory, both small gundams, are both only 1.5 the size
That Armored Core 6 april fools joke fucking hurt me like nothing ever has
>>14146741
Japs are fucking cruel for their April fools.
>>14146732
Of a regular gunda, yes. F-91 and Victory are ~15m, most mobile suits are ~18m. NEXTs and ACs are both in the 10 meter range. In terms of comparison, they're about the same size (if slightly bigger) than an arm slave.
>>14146750
April Fools being a shit "holiday" doesn't help anything either.
>>14137796
Who will win, NEXTs or VFs?
>>14146785
VFs. Same reason a Genudm would win.
>>14146741
tell me about it.
At lest there is enough fandom there for such joke. I guess.....
>>14146572
>corps don't do freebies
Call some favors? is more, since is a tellus, she could give you her spare parts, and just get the weapons, I doubt Sumika wouldn't have someone in the corporation that like her, after all she was a LYNX and while soldiers, they are really important for the corps.
>>14146521
We need more character like her on /m/ stuff.
>>14146572
>she's a fan of tough love.
How? she looks to really likes you and likes seeing you getting better, and no saying how angry she gets when the VOB is busted.
>>14146508
a if you put a AC pilot on a gundam universe, give the local Zaku clone and he will end all conflict by himself.
>>14146828
Giving out a NEXT to a totally independent operator/pilot (she has no qualms whatsoever accepting missions against interior) is kind of a no-go. If you don't literally own them why would you give them that much power? She might have worked for Interior (well, Leonemechanica) once, but that was a long time ago. Now she's just some operator.
>>14146850
It's more that she doesn't want to be too soft. So she'll do things like tell you your first performance was okay, but nothing special. There's a visible arc where she gets more and more willing to express genuine approval and eventually admiration.
As for tough love...
>"Oh, and I neglected to mention this, but your support has been completely wiped out."
>>14146869
Her sarcasm when the intel is wrong is hilarious or when the "support" never came, like on cabracan on hard. if you dind't bring blades with you, you will spend half of your ammo getting out of the metal skirt.
>>14146881
>if you dind't bring blades with you, you will spend half of your ammo getting out of the metal skirt.
You can actually catch the treads in a grenade blast without even going under.
AC anime when?
>>14146895
Fuck anime I just want a god damn game.
>>14146869
>eventually admiration.
You probably are doing stuff she never could hope on doing, seeing your student growing so fast will sometimes cause that.
Sumika clones when?
>>14146898
I know your pain anon, since the PS4 appeared, I want a new game, I know VD doens't have that much time out, but seeing the jump of gen, I really want a AC game for this gen.
>>14146904
>Sumika clones when?
>Wanting to ruin a perfect character with a legacy of shit-tier waifu stuff.
>>14146516
Magic. No matter how much AP WG has, he immediately drops to zero when CUBE so much as grazes him with an MG round after Otsdarva goes down.
>>14146604
The problem with this is the fact that AC1 source material says ACs and MTs were created AFTER the Great Destruction.
Also, the JUSTICE cannon is openly stated to be the reason humanity was forced underground.
There's plenty of little things that reference the games' other timelines throughout the series, but the only numbered games with an official link are the 1 series and 2.
>>14147094
> AC1 source material says ACs and MTs were created AFTER the Great Destruction
Wasn't the exact wording somewhat ambiguous? Like that they were "developed", not "created" or something? Something that could suggest that the technology already existed.
And there's really no reason why JUSTICE can't just happen later. No-one went underground in the Kojima apocalypse, they just retreated to habitable areas to wait it out.
>the only numbered games with an official link are the 1 series and 2.
I'd say 4 and V are kind of indisputable at this point, what with the blatant Kojima tech and reference to it bringing destruction on the world.
Reminder that Old King did nothing wrong
>>14147160
So how did they get anything into space if the assault cells are still up there without the ORCA ending happening?
Besides, trying to reconcile 1-2AA and 3-LR in the same timeline is a moot point since the 10 Works Complete File already says they're not related at all.
>>14147172
OldKing was a true friend
>>14147303
>I'm glad we got to know each other better...
>>14147315
that line sounds so sincere, he could be a crazy terrorist, but he was a friend.
>>14146895
They did start an OVA for it. Look up Armored Core: Fort Tower Song. I think the company shut down so it's been axed. However, Armored Core: Tower City Blade is a manga that exists, so there's that.
>>14147277
3-RL is the one series I couldn't fit neatly into a timeline, actually. At best it would just be some random events in a couple of the underground colonies.
>So how did they get anything into space if the assault cells are still up there without the ORCA ending happening?
All three endings lead to the same point. Cradles down, arteria facilities freed up, assault cells destroyed by whoever's left.
>>14147589
>assault cells destroyed by whoever's left.
false, in both the league and destruction the anti-sattelites cannons are destroyed.
>>14147618
Actually, he's partially right.
ORCA ending involves defending the Anti-Sat cannons and the Destruction ending has nothing to do with the Anti-Sats, implying they are still active. (It skips the Anti-Sats and goes straight to Arteria Carpals)
>>14147618
>>14147645
Not to mention those were only the cannons ORCA was able to get a hold of way out of the way. Given that Rayleonard were operating at least one in 4 there's really no reason there couldn't be more, or that more could be built. The important part is that clearing orbit would need so much power as to require the use of the arteria facilities.
>>14147645
you take the attack on cradles instead of defending the anti-sats, while you are destroying the cradles the anti-sats were destroyed.
>>14147720
>the anti-sats were destroyed.
see >>14147694
Only SOME of the Anti-Sats were destroyed. There could easily have been way more.
I miss the long story missions of V
How well do the games emulate PS2 games emulate? I don't think I've played AC since V like five years ago.
>>14138233
fromsoft has confirmed that das3 is going to be the last souls title.
>>14148568
I don't believe them.
>>14145700
Why not roll with getting to play as a member of either faction? Maybe even some faggot ranumb mercenaries as a side, third storyline.
Personally, being able to play as the latest generation NEXT-using Master Race but also having the option to play the nigger caveman wall-hopper trash fodder V-VD Normals sounds great.
>>14148568
Last Dark Souls title. They'll still keep making them, but under different names and settings like Bloodborne
>>14148661
Miyazaki explicitly stated that "last Souls game" included Bloodborne (and technically Demons' Souls), and that he wanted to work on a sci-fi IP
Basically he's going to bring back King's Field and put it in space
>>14148687
>he wanted to work on a sci-fi IP
AAARRRMOORREEEDD COOORREEEE 6!!!I CAN DREAM ;-;
Hey, I've been wondering... Anyone here know about Deadlink? It's really wierd. I crossed three people so far who recognised the name IRL. Which really shouldn't happen. Did we actually dominate ACV that much? /humblebrag&seriousquestion
>>14148592
nobody does, but we will have to wait until their next game is announced. if is not a souls/bloodborne/same-gameplay, remember we told you.
>>14148687
he also explicitly stated that last raven is the hardest game he had play.
>>14148806
He really said that? I mean, that's the case for me too.
>>14147172
>>14147371
I love Old King, bless his heart.
>>14148405
Armored Core 2, Another Age, 3 and Silent Line emulate really well. Armored Core Nexus, Nine Breaker and especially Last Raven are more demanding. With the latest updates though and a strong PC they too are playable.
If you want to play Last Raven you can also emulate the portable version with PPSSPP. There are some new parts and enemies and you can reconfigure the controls to have analogue aiming. Sure the graphics lack some effects and shadows but I feel like they injected some colors to counterbalance that.
Which PS2 armored core has dual-analogue stick usage?
>>14149561
Nexus, Nine Breaker and Last Raven.
>>14149571
Thanks mate
>>14134284
I want there to be absolutely no Dark Souls influence on the next project. It ruined V + Verdict day for me.
Have a squad based AC4A-style game with next gen graphics, a tournament mode, fun story and good multiplayer.
Reminder that RD did nothing wrong
>>14146642
>Sirius was founded by Rosary
>EGF was founded by Fran
Fuck me I don't know who I like moreProbably Sirius, Rosary was a best
>>14149715
That wanker shot down my transport, he deserved what he got.
>>14146642
>"As for the mercenary who worked with Fran, there are no remaining records of their existence."
Confirmed VD MC is the V MC who faked his death
>went to check out my pixiv mecha bookmars
>half of them deleted
o-okay
>>14146398
Baller.
>>14149741
VD is 100 years apart from where V ended.
In the BEST case scenario, Maggy is the related to Fran and the V MC.
>>14149758
those wings are a masterpiece on mecha design. they are just 3 laser cannons together, but with a simple arc and the desing manage to invoke a wing motif without being somekind of gigantic piece of metal in the back.
>>14134954
And dont you forget it
>>14151919
>Maggy is the related to Fran and the V MC.
But anon Maggy is literally related to Fran.
Magnolia Curtis
Frances "Fran" Batty Curtis
Maggy even states in the level you fight her that her ancestors passed down the story of a legendary pilot
>>14135654
Sometimes you have to close the throttle to do well. Y'know, take a step back and make sacrifices so you're better overall?
Aaliyah is knowing when NOT to boost.
Demonstrate some fucking self-restraint. I bet in combat you hold shoot buttons down instead of timing the shots to strike based on your movements.
>>14152998
>hold shoot buttons down instead of timing the shots to strike based on your movements.
That's how you use machineguns and chainguns though. /closecombat/ lads report in
>>14137796
NEXTs pretty much run on fairy dust, so I'm pretty sure only Anno Domini universe Gundams could even compete.
White Glint is so fucking cool.
>>14152998
A stock Aaliyah can't even do standard boost across the ground without actively lowering its energy meter. Its energy output/consumption are appalling.
>>14152940
Nineball is the devil of AC
White Glint is the angel of AC
>>14152993
I know, that was poor wording, what I wanted to say is that in the best case, the V MC is also a ancestor of her, in other words Fran and MC got together.
>>14153144
Kojima particles have their uses really well defined, they work as a energy source and as the primal armor.
>>14153512
Reminder that his artist is the the same from Eureka seven.
ORE WA FATOMAN
SENJO NO HAKOBI YA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYWo84D2-L0
>>14156701
Why can't we get more things like this?
what about a stain with vocals made by Chief? or Fallen made by Joshua?
>>14156897
Now I want a track where Old King just counts and hums.
>>14156187
>the V MC is also a ancestor of her,
With the way she got shot the fuck down? I dunno.I hope my V character made out with Rosary
Is it just me or did the voice acting take a massive drop in quality in V/VD?
>>14157081
>Massive drop in quality in V/VD
>Forgetting Chief
>>14135678
tank treads
>>14156187
>Fran and MC got together.
>shipperfaggotry
>Reminder that his artist is the the same from Eureka seven.
Well yeah it's Kawamori's guest design for FA. He was designing Armored Cores up to 4.
>>14157610
>>Fran and MC got together.
>>shipperfaggotry
Is it shipperfaggotry if I say that the 4 MC and Fiona Jarnefelt got together?Its implied in-game
On another note: How the fuck does every other pilot die when their NEXT/AC goes up but somehow there's these two fuckers (That one AC in VD and White Glint 4A) who survive?
>>14157632
WG dies in FA.
>>14152998
>Aaliyah is knowing when NOT to boost
Specifically never, because it's awful and you should get yourself a better frame
>>14137332
all my keksand sadness
>>14157650
WG gets blown the fuck up in FA, yes, but the infobooks for FA imply the pilot (4's MC) survived the NEXT going up and just sat out the rest of the war
>>14157283
I also liked the Foundation man.
Should I get 4 or its expansion?
Where can I find it in England?
>>14157779
Nigga buy everything.
>>14157610
Is not much Shippperfaggotry, and is more because since the "forgotten day" story ends that there is no records of the merc, I reach the conclusion that he left with Fran, since they decide that they need to stop Venide and prepare for the coming of Isaac. Rosary basically just returned to Man of Honor and took control, but Fran decides to go with a small group of migrants to the far east, after all that happens I doubt the V MC will just go his own way, I think he goes with Fran seeing the lack of resource and manpower she has, since Rosary have a whole organization waiting for her. Becuause of the small group and any time it will take them to find a place where to put a base, they probably didn't have much records of their early days, any resistance was destroyed by the V MC and so no records from their enemies exist, when Evergreen finally start becoming a thing in Asia, V MC is probably old and retire fron the front line.
Maggy talks that her ancestors saw the dark raven, but her parents die when she was young and her grandmother raise her, since VD is 100 years apart from V, her grandmother is the daughter or grandaugther of Fran, She could have this "cool uncle" that was V MC IF not outright her dad, when she tells the story of him to Maggy she call him with the title Fran probably used for him one time or something. Like I said in the BEST CASE Fran and MC got together, but not neccesary, but also, if they got, the legend of the dark raven could be more as a "family story" for Maggy and that could be one of the reasons she wants to be like the dark raven. Could go from just fascination to the "hero" of the story to "upholding the family the story".sorry for long post and bad english.
>>14157684
Not only sat out, but also that was waiting for a new NEXT, we could return to FA time, with him being the MC againa man can dream, right?
>>14158083
Thankfully it won't happen.
>>14157790
I'm poor. Where do I start?
Trying to find a good entry point. Remember playin 4's demo back in '07. V isn't that good from what I hear and I just want to know whether to dig out my PS2 for bargain bins.
Is MoA and ps1 games good to emulate on a shitty pavilion?
>>14158265
Get FA then?
>>14158272
Some guys at /vg/ have games during sundays.
>>14158272
Alright, thanks though.
A shame there hasn't been a game in 3 years.
>>14158292
Bamco fucked FROM somehow.
>>14158294
they have the IP hostage, if they are stubborn and don't want to publish a new AC game, our best hope is a spiritual succesor "fighting cores", Armored nucleus"?
>>14158306
Isn't FROM making some JRPG now that Souls ended or something?
>>14158306
Is it bad if I want a soulsy mech game? I like FA from what I've played so far, but I feel underpowered in it and like something isn't clicking for me. Any idea what i'm talking about? I feel like I'd enjoy things a lot more otherwise.
>>14158321
FA is weightless.
>>14158327
It looks like there is some sort of stat attribution system? I don't know if it's just that I'm not piling on enough guns, I feel like there's something I just fundamentally don't get. Like I'm playing Gran Turismo and I'm just doing things that make the car perform worse. Any tips?
>>14158314
No idea.
>>14158377
Be sure to not overload the mech with guns, it will slow it down and make it an energy hog, which brings me to the next point:
Every piece has a passive energy consumption that limits energy regeneration. The more energy your mech needs, the slower it regenerates. Also, every booster has active energy consumption. Be sure that your build can stay on the air indefinitely as long as you don't quickboost or strafe. Use low consumption boosters if needed, and don't spam quickboost.
If you want speed, being light is better than having powerful boosters, because those are heavier and need heavier generators.
Best weapons for your first time dual machine guns/rifles on the hands and missiles or a grenade launcher on the back. If you have to kill big things use laser blades, if you need to kill enemy NEXTs use either big cannons or machineguns.
Learn how do strafe around enemies, and learn how to do quickturns (quickboost + turning camera) in case they get on your back.
Never stop moving.
>>14158392
Not him
I want to add something if you are interested on the multiplayer, the best option is missiles in the back and machine/rifle combo in the arms, grenades only works if you close or the enemy is in the ground, that is rare, Blades are worthless.
>>14157667
The frame is perfectly fine (if on the light side), it's the internals that are a problem. Gut the thing and give it a generator/booster set-up that actually works and you've got an entirely serviceable machine.
>>14158321
>I felt underpowered in FA
I don't know how someone does this.
>>14158480
FA is the game most close to super robots in the serie.
>>14158477
Even the own Aaliyah generator can work, just change the boosters.
>>14158477
Aaliyah was my first frame in 4A since I came straight from 4.
The best way to experience the game. You have to learn how to maneuver and control your energy.
Just change the weapons to double machinegun with Grenade launcher or AS missiles and a good.
Also I'm finishing my PC build and I will emulate Nineball, Nexus and Last Raven with Dual Joystick Setup.
This is as close as I will get to pilot a mech.
>>14158529
There is a effort to make a PvP Last Raven community if you are interested.
>>14158541
How would that work ?
>>14158572
PPSSPP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaLdJyvGBug
>>14158592
Okay this sounds pretty cool :O
>>14157684
I was really hoping WG would come help you out in the final battle of the ORCA path.
>>14158480
It's my first AC, I got it used with no manual. i literally have no idea what i'm doing.
>>14135678
Best girl.
>>14158899
Well, it was my second AC and it has a serviceable tutorial for the basics. You'll get the hang of it eventually.
Which company did you pick to start with?
>>14158925
Vomit inducing pilot suit.
>>14134321
There are already waifus though, you just don't get to see what they look like.
>>14158939
I think the unaffiliated one, I wanted more levels to do. That said, it might be why I was having trouble.
>>14158925
Shamir is the dominant mistress that all /m/ wants
>>14158941
Sadly is the style of the artist, since he is one of the few that makes a lot of pilot fanart.
>>14158962
the only waifu material is Fiona, May, and Maggy for the ones obsessed with katawa.
![Game control and screen test 2 [Armored Core Cockpit Gundam pod].webm](https://i.imgur.com/pD6kHld.jpg "Game control and screen test 2 [Armored Core Cockpit Gundam pod]")
>>14159743
>>14159749
Merrygate is my waifu.
Karasawa is my waifu
>>14159801
SL had a dope cockpit.
For Answer is not for everyone, but I love the high speed battles and battling giant Forts.
"There is no place for me other than the battlefield. To live as I please, and die a senseless death. That is who I am. Not a mere man of flesh. War is part of my existence." - J
>>14159858
>beliving May won't friendzone you.
>>14160050
Truly the most animu antagonist of them all.
>>14160050
>To live as I please, and die a senseless death
Words to live by, can apply to any lifestyle.
>>14160051
I'm a harem protagonist.
>>14160060
>still beliving May won't friendzone you
Anon please, don't make this to yourself.
>>14160056
>What is Chief
>What is Evangel
>What is Zinaida
>What is Nineball.
>>14159858
>>14160051
>>14160057
>>14160060
>>14160067
Now I'm imagining Celebrity Ash trying to work up the courage to ask Merrygate out on a date
>>14160071
None of those are as animu as J and Stinger.
>>14160067
I'm going to impregnate her while you watch anon.
>>14160083
I played 4A again, Man Celebrity Ash is so funny, seeing how he get scared each time the mission is harder is enjoyable,
Also he could try, but I doubt Merry will accept him, she is the "nice girl" type, so nice to everyone to the point that people get the wrong ideas.
>>14160085
what makes "animu" J? I mean what does that even mean?
>>14157610
>Well yeah it's Kawamori's guest design for FA. He was designing Armored Cores up to 4.
So, that is why the White Glint kept reminding me of the Devilfish
>>14160087
>Impliying I wont enjoy it.
And rember that your anus is defenseless while you do that.
>>14158736
Wasn't he originally supposed to comeback later and open a Line Ark storyline?
>>14160118
Yeah, looking back his mechs really do look like ACs
>>14160139
>The zaku of armored core
>>14160139
Especially the core.
>>14138006
No, he is a screaming retard, who is eternally butthurt at being humiliated by the Last Raven that makes he literally stop thinking in some paths and he goes after you with the most braindead plans he could
>>14160143
I fucking LOVE monoeyes
>>14160161
AC have the best cyclops in mecha, or at least the head.
>>14160143
>>14160148
Aside from the KLFs being a bit fatter, along with the backpack and the cockpit near the should its pretty damn similar to the Oracle, also doesn't Obari design some ACs too or am I thinking about the wrong person?
What was your first experience when facing White Glint for the first time?
>>14160184
>wow he went down like a bitch
>>14160157
I know. Cute right?
>>14160184
tough for a reason, becasue when I tried to S on normal he was a push over, same with hard, hard the first time, pushover later. And one time I decide to make a fresh new game, and find him hard again JUST the first time, once defeated he somehow drops on difficulty.
>>14160190
you mean otsdarva right?
>>14160184
>Previous main character
>Rank 9
Pottery
>>14160213
The cycles man! Bravo Miyazaki.
>>14160213
You know what? I really like it when Otsdarva announces his rank as part of his name.
THE PERSON STANDING BEFORE YOU
IS RANK 1, OTSDARVA!
I bet he tries to find ways to work that awkward fucking comma into casual conversation all the time
>>14160213
that was probably a refernece to Nineball, also consider that the companies control the ranking, he manage to go top 10 because he is truly dangerous, but they will rank him higher because why would you rank your common enemy better than any of your pilots?
>>14160226
>that was probably a refernece to Nineball
Bullshit
>>14160226
>>14160213
>>14160225
You know I'm almost 100% WG is on a rank of his own, just judging off his past accomplishments (Berlioz's squad) and the fact that CUBE is literally engineered to fight him and win.
>>14160247
Taking out four crippled NEXTs is hardly an achievement, anon.
>mop the floor with this one when vs friends designs
>japs always ravage me with their zippy light designs
Good times.
>>14160232
>White Glint is a rank 9 NEXT, but it is considerably more powerful than its rank suggests.
> is considerably more powerful than its rank suggests.
Holding the 9 number while being called powerful.
>>14160255
>Crippled
How do you know that though? Taking 4's Hardmode as canon 4's MC did still win a 4v1 with no support.
Alternatively we can see the fact he took out a prototype top-end (at the time) NEXT, and again if we take hard mode as canon, a top ranked OMER NEXT back to back as an achievement too.
>>14160264
No way
>>14160255
they aren't so crippled on hard, and that is the canon route.
Strayed top him anywaysIF destruction path is canon
>>14160264
anon he's being sarcastic
>>14160276
>How do you know that though
They were all smoking and sparking and shit and I killed two of them before I even touched down, they had to have been crippled mayne
Noblesse Oblige did some fucking work down there
>>14160277
9 is the strongest.
>>14160276
>How do you know that though?
They're literally not at full health and near death.
>>14160284
>Noblesse Oblige did some fucking work down there
And its further implied there were more than 4 NEXTs there too. The reason we don't see some of the other NEXTs is most likely because they all died in that fight before we arrived and we basically just cleaned up.
>>14160289
Yeah, Marche Au Supplice is nowhere near as fucked as the battle for Arteria Carpals.
Berlioz and his crew got fucked up by Leonhardt and Mido Auriel. We're just cleaning up some walking corpses.
>>14160284
>nobless Oblige
>got used in promo material
>doesn't even appears on canon route
Just why?
>>14160300
And then we kill our best buddy. Thank you FROM for your optimistic story-telling.
>>14160300
Man I still wish we could know Berlioz under a different situation, he seem like a cool guy.
>>14160302
It's okay, you get to ride alongside based Gerald Gendlin (and/or kill him) in For Answer
>>14160314
the AC game most close to a happy ending is V, and that only if you don't read forgotten day.
>>14160318
still what a waste of a beautiful mech.
>>14160302
Berlioz was much more marketed.
Also NO appears in non-hard mode. Hard mode being canon is just interpretation.
White Glint was promoted to hell and back only to appear in one mission and die like a bitch.
>>14160328
Don't worry, I've put together some simple steps to get Noblesse Oblige into the canon route
>Shank him
>Salvage his parts
>Rebuild it
>Pilot it down the canon route
>???
>Profit
>>14160323
I funpost but I actually like it that way. Gimme the grim shitsack of a world and giant robots shooting each other in it any day.
>>14160330
>Hard mode being canon is just interpretation.
>Is the mode where you see more pilots and special weapons.
Also remember that we know that OMER is the one blackmailing Joshua since their top pilot is there to be a cleaning crew in the hard mode of the final mission.
>>14160342
Now that you mention it didn't one mission in 4 got butchered in the west? I can't recall but it was something with Joshua and his new prototype AC.
What is your favorite theme in AC plots?
>>14160352
Disgusting. This is much better >>14139005
>>14160349
I don't remember wich mission, but is the one that explain that is Joshua the one in the ARETHA and that is getting blackmailed by OMER.
>I guess there is little need for words
>>14160355
I'm a big fan of MUH IDEALS like Wynne D Fanchon. Shiftless, morality-lacking wretches like Zinaida and Stinger don't even rate.
>>14160360
Post May. before thread dies.
>>14160360
I'm probably the only person in this thread who likes Wynne arn't I?
>>14160355
I like the "I'M DOING THIS FOR YOUR SAKE YOU SHITLORDS" crowd.
>>14160372
You are not alone brother!
>>14160382
I want to hug her.
>>14160372
Wynne is literally perfection. Anyone who believes in the strength of their justice is waifu-tier.
Of course, that includes Leos Klein andRANK 1, OTSDARVA.
If anybody here saw Heavy Object please tell me I wasn't the only one that tought on something like Pic related.
>>14160382
>piloting in business casual
Top tier
>>14160388
Who helds more his ideals? Wynne or Otsdarva trying to make the closed plan a reality because he doenst see future in a world ruled by the coorporations?
>>14160390
>Heavy Object
>>14160382
I have a few more.
>>14160390
That some serious Kojima there.
>>14160355
how a literal nobody just appears and fuck everyones plans by just being skilled enough, no super weapon, no special upgrade just a normal pilot using the same mecha as the others.
AC is dying.
>>14160432
Nineball showed up in ACE:R so it counts for something, right?It was the worst ACE game who am I kidding its over for AC
>>14160432
No my first time seeing it, but damn It always hurts.
Did someone of you suffer the april's fool AC6 joke?
>>14160429
See, that would be impressive if the MCs were piloting normals or MTs. IT's not, they're piloting NEXTs/ACs.
>>14160445
VD kills a NEXT with a super up AC
>>14160446
suped-up*
I hate posting from a phone some days.
>>14160432
RIP
Let's be honest though, all mecha is in the gutter. At least AC had a good and long run.
>>14160445
if you put it on gundam terms, everybody is using a "Mobil suit" but of course the protags and some major villians have this "gundams" super advanced/powered/designed mobil suits, on AC you are using the regular AC, no a special one or a different kind of mech, you are not a super soldier made to have great skills, you are a normal human on a normal AC, that anybody can get, and you destroy veterans, H+ pilots, super weapons, H+ pilots on a super weapons, small armies, while using, let say, a zaku that you just swap its weapons.
>>14160451
>suped-up
I think that is open to discussion.
>>14160461
>on AC you are using the regular AC
A "regular AC" is a shitwrecking machine with the capability to stomp every other thing that gets fielded if the pilot isn't a piece of shit. ACs ARE the Gundams.
The Zakus, the Jims, those are MTs (or Normals in 4niverse). Which are piloted by the actual grunts. None of the AC pilots are grunts, nor are they piloting grunt machines. Some of them just happen to be more retarded than others.
>>14160476
Ooh and of course there's the "mobile armor" equivalents like Phantasma, the Devastator, the Massive MTs, Stigro, etc.
>>14160472
Well isn't it basically a reverse-engineered normal with NEXT-level weaponry? Normals with Grind Blades are fuckin' sweet.
>>14160452
If the pilots aren't a bunch of moe shit, people wont care.
>>14160492
Wynne is a cute though
>>14160476
To add: it gets worse in 4A, of course. The intro mission of 4A makes it explicit that only a NEXT can stand up to a NEXT, although Arms Forts mix it up later on. A single NEXT comprises the actual bulk of Line Ark's military power, and the Normals left as guards don't even rate.
ACs and NEXTS are expected to go up against superior odds and trash everything in sight, whether it's tearing apart a whole shipyard, shooting down an airfleet, shooting down bombers and transports from GROUND LEVEL, something I still don't know why so many AC games have missions centered around, and so on.
If "anybody" could get a normal AC, then you'd be fighting ACs every mission instead of lots of MTs piloted by rank and file goons.
>>14160507
>If "anybody" could get a normal AC, then you'd be fighting ACs every mission instead of lots of MTs piloted by rank and file goons.
But they did this in V and VD, mostly seen in UNACs
>>14160512
Mate despite being made out of actual garbage UNACs are treated as such a big threat in their intro that Reaper Squad intervenes.
Whether they're actually a threat to the given player depends on the player, of course.
>>14160512
>mostly seen in UNACs
Let's also not forget that the world map PvP was actually "canon" to V/VD too, it was basically you taking part in the background wars and what not and as we all know that was a shitfest of ACs, so it counts right?
>>14160485
OW are huge and can't be used for more than 2 minutes, and after that, the AC becomes crippled for a good while. Laser rifles requiere you to charge them, you can't fly, and no back weapons, the only improvement is the quickboost system, and clearly isn't at the same level of a NEXT.
Compare all that to a Classic (PS2 and before) AC, and the is some problems.
I am not saying V era ACs aren't cool, but I doubt they are at the level of a normal. Even NWG-IX is a downgrade NEXT.
>>14160521
>despite being made out of actual garbage UNACs are treated as such a big threat
Have you seen some of the crazy shit that people build their UNACs to do in the world map? My mate had one set up completely for piling things and holy fuck was it amazing. Lightweight, 2fast2furious, 60k damage a pile-salvo.
>>14160529
Storymode UNACs man. Proper player UNACs are just straight up proper ACs of death, just like player ACs.
>>14160525
>you can't fly
No, but you can glide for a good while, so that counts for something, right?
>and no back weapons
I never really liked orbit weapons anyways, what I miss the most in V/VD though are the Linear Rifles. Those were so nice.
>Compare all that to a Classic (PS2 and before) AC, and the is some problems.
At least the V and VD ACs don't have a rampant overheating issue. Fuck Formula Front.
>>14160535
>just straight up proper ACs of death
Only if you have good programmer skills.
>>14160535
>Proper player UNACs are just straight up proper ACs of death, just like player ACs.
>Running into an F- squad in VD 360 world map
>Oh ok this will be easy
>It's all UNACs with a human operator
>mfw they proceed to kick my shit in
>>14160564
What could make a operator position more fun when having a full human team?
>>14160502
Personality wise yes, but without a character portrait, otakus won't even look at the game. But like anon said >>14141596 It won't be AC if that happens.
I fear the day that on a AC thread, I ask ideas for a good build, people bash me for being try hard and no talking about the lolis.
>>14141596
Oh man I would love an AC dating sim
>tfw Hogire route
Best girl next to Crest monoeye
>>14160578
Watching that full human team getting wrecked by superior AI mini-nineballs while they are screaming over the chat
>>14160601
So, AC girl? or the actual mechas?
>>14160622
What, are you gay? Of course the machine.
Girls don't have enough moving bits.
>>14160622
Cancer.
>Armored Core Spinoff game based around MS Girls (Technically would be AC Girls)
Would you enjoy it or not?
>>14160617
I mean the operator FOR the human team, being the overloard of your personal death squad is always fun.Posting cancer
>>14160648
No and fuck off.
>>14160648
how about we lynch you and you >>14160650 for this.
>>14160650
>p0_master1200.jpg
>newfags still don't know how to use pixiv
>>14160648
From what I have see in /m/ and /v/ AC is one of the few serie people really don't want anything that could pamper the otakus from coming.
>>14160660
>>14160655
>>14160670
Woah calm down you lot, was only asking IF you'd enjoy it or not, was not suggesting one being made in any way.
>>14160650
Human teams can suck a dick sometimes I mean just listen to some of the chats
>FAGGOT SCAN THAT SECTOR
>GUIZ THEY'RE AT POINT A!!!11!
>SNIPARCANNON FUCKBOI
etc
>>14160685
Yeah, a squad of nineballs is a lot more useful than the average player.
>>14160650
>>14160685
>tfw encountering a full human enemy team
>All of them are using piles or shield+piles
>>14161002
>Everyone on my team has a pile just because.
>Always a team pile every other sortie.
>>14161007
>Special sortie with a full team of mates
>VS N-WGIX/v world map clusterfuck edition
>autocannon spam to take out his VOB
>The second he lands we rush forward
>Operator dies of laughter as he watches 4 ACs rape a pseudo-NEXT with piles
latest interview with miyazaki says he's interested in making an new AC sequel game but can't disclose anything yet.
>>14161055
Wasn't it something along the lines of "If you want a new AC game go pester Bandai Namco for one, but I really want to make one" though?
>>14161055
even then, it'll probably be only after DSIII's 3 expansion DLCs are released.
>>14161059
Yeah that's basically what he said. They literally got anally bum blasted by Bamco.
>>14161059
that was an older interview i think and bamco doesn't own the AC series anyway, not sure how harping on Bamco would result in anything.
can't link interview since system seems to think it's a spam
>>14161077
FROMSOFTWARE is owned by Bamco which is why they are limiting the IPs and what not
>>14161087
huh? From software is owned by Kadokawa Corporation.
interview at gnn gamer site
gnn dot gamer dot com dot tw/2/130902 dot html
>>14159444
Likely. Starting company doesn't actually affect anything besides starting robot, and the independent starting machine is probably the most fidly and technical one the most in need of well placed upgrades.
>>14160300
I'm actually fairly sure the enemies on that mission have full health from the start, no matter what that bloke on the radio said.
>>14160323
3 had a really upbeat and hopeful ending, until Silent Line came along.
>>14160559
>That moment where your UNAC defeats you
>The student has surpassed the master
Feels good man.
>>14160552
I think what he meant be back weapons were things like grenade launchers and such. Heavy weapons with dedicated back slots, rather than what V/VD has, which is heavier arm weapons that you can't switch without dropping.
I think battle rifles are functionally kind of similar to linear guns, are they not?
>>14161162
They're too slow. Sniper rifles are more akin to linear rifles. Battle rifles are just weaker grenade launchers based on the descriptions of chem weapons.
>>14161159
>Me overboosting and quickboosting like a fucking madman
>My UNAC manages to actually properly track me
>It fucking kicks me and staggers me
>fuck.png
>Switches to pile and proceeds to fist me
and then it got its shit pushed in online by a sawaquad. Ah well.
>>14161182
>It fucking kicks me and staggers me
Pic related?
>>14161173
I recall linear rifles being pretty slow. Slower than standard rifles at any rate.
>>14161182
>It fucking kicks me and staggers me
Not as big of an accomplishment as it seems, AI controlled AC's in that game were infamous for the laser precisions of their knee-charges.
>>14161257
I think the accomplishment was that I finally got the fucking thing's targeting to keep up with someone boosting around at what felt like mach speed
>>14161257
>AI controlled AC's in that game were infamous for the laser precisions of their knee-charges.
I can tell you now this isnt the case because that fucking boost charge chip gave me so much trouble programming, not to mention the layer upon layer of movement chips one must add to help it get that precision. In multiplayer maybe so, because everyone probably had their UNACs at optimum specs
>>14161265
I think he's talking about AI ACs in singleplayer. In that case
>>14161257
Not all of them have laser precision. I know that one fuck with the flash rockets can't kick for shit, same goes for Lilith in that crater. Off the top of my head I think the only AI AC kicker that gave me trouble was Aegis with the dual shields, and that was only because Iron Rose with her tank dual railguns was pissing me off.
>>14161270
>Aegis and Iron Rose
>Hard
???
Literally get quadlegs, Sniper cannon, Piledriver (60k damage one), Snipe Iron Rose till dead, Pile Aegis as he comes into melee range (which should be about the same time Iron Rose dies, if you can actually aim). Easiest level in that chapter for me. What I found hard was that one fuck with the sniper cannon with his squad of turrets and MTs who camped on the wreckage of Motherwill. That mission took me forever to get an S on.
>>14161265
>>14161270
My experience was that you never got anywhere near a non player AC because there was effectively an instant death radius around them. They always seemed to perfectly time their charges.
>>14161270
>flash rockets
Oh man those things. I remember me building a team of 4 UNACs to utilize piledrivers + Shields + Shotguns + Flash Rockets. Playing Operator and watching all those flashbangs go off was hilarious, even got a few messages calling me a fag. Great times.
>>14161280
>Trying to aim my 5-shot-burst Sniper Cannon to support my team by being that tiny spec on the horizon that can slam someone for 5k damage
>Scoping in
>Suddenly white screen
>WARNING SYSTEM ERROR
>what
>After match check replay (Operation Files)
>One of the fuckers on the enemy team had actually blind fired a flash rocket and crossmapped me with it
>Never played sniper again
>>14161286
Damn son did you win or lose because of that missed shot? I've had games come dangerously close because of situations where I just lose track of shit and miss a shot accidentally.
>>14161286
>Chain stunning some mook with the single fire cannon.
>Ally floats in front of you and dies.
>>14161289
Can't remember to be totally honest, It's been a while.
>>14161291
>Fire Giga Cannon at enemy
>Teammate quickboosts into the shot and dies
>Blames you for his death
>>14161298
>Fire Giga Missile at general enemy team direction
>4 kills
>2 were your team mates
>>14161087
FROM is owned by Kadokawa, BAMCO have a contract about publishing their games.
>>14161270
>Aegis and Iron Rose
I got tired of them and decide to use a OW (I transfer my save of V) and somehow manage to get bot in one shot, I was planning on taking rose first and then Aegis, when I attacked Rose Aegis wasnt in sight but somehow got close in the last part of the spin.
>>14161794
do you guys will like the OW returning even if not V era??
Hope rises only to cuck you once again.
>>14161823
source? ¡¿SOURCER!?!
>>14159743
I'd let her do some naughty things to me.
Shame she doesn't have very much art.
>>14161815
>OW on a NEXT
GIVE ME
Upgraded baby.
>>14163667
isn't that more like a downgrade? is the second prototype of a NEXT before 03-Aaliyah was made.
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