>tfw Gundams start fighting in your home city
feels good
That's cool as fuck.
>mfw live in a cave in the middle of the amazon jungle and gundam already fought in my home
>>14059584
So if Money Marts hand out payday loans and cash cheques, what the fuck does a MONKEY MART do?
>>14059580
>>14059584
>>14059591
Those building would have to be thousands of years old in the PD era.
>>14059611
How the fuck do you figure
>>14059580
>living in edmonton
My condolences.
>>14059628
PD takes place after UC and AW era. It probably after CC, too, which makes it even older.
>>14059652
>PD takes place after UC
>>14059660
A huge chunk of Australia is missing in PD. Unless Australia has a habit of having millions of years of geological movement take place within a few hundred years, PD most definitely takes place after UC.
>>14059692
It's not like a franchise can have alternate universes unrelated to one another right? Unless mankind also keeps resetting its technology and then destroying the planet only to rebuild it perfectly (while keeping real-life locations restored to their original form) over and over.
>>14059596
>two gundam series has taken place in your city
feels good man
>>14059692
When are we going to drop this all the gundams take place in the same timeline thing?
>>14059732
>>14059702
Okay so Australia is missing a piece because a colony didn't fall on it.
>>14059580
Yep.
>>14059732
When we stop shitposting.
>>14059702
>Unless mankind also keeps resetting its technology and then destroying the planet only to rebuild it perfectly (while keeping real-life locations restored to their original form) over and over.
Why not? That's certainly the case in Turn-A and even within IBO.
>>14059740
They crashed a gendum instead.
Ever see an Ahab reactor go tits up?
>>14059740
Yes. It happened during the Calamity War which was serious enough to warrant a change of calendar. Go look at Gundam X's maps and tell me PD happened after AW again, retard.
>>14059702
>>14059732
To be fair, there is no official confirmation to argue neither for nor against a unified timeline.
>>14059756
>Go look at Gundam X's maps and tell me PD happened after AW again, retard.
Animation errors aren't canon, dummy.
>>14059746
Turn A is a special case.
IBO is completely different. It's about the power consolidation of a 300 year old institution and people rebelling against it. The theme is change through revolution and everyone uses stagnant technology. No constant cycle of war.
>>14059776
Black_Knight is that you?
>>14059702
>alternate universes
That hasn't been a thing since 99. Turn A was made specifically to unify Gundam.
>>14059758
The MG Turn X manual lists every calendar era except SD and GBF in its description of the "Black History".
>>14059780
>Turn A is a special case
That's also a central element of Gundam AGE. And it's also the meaning of the title of Endless Waltz.
Also one actually could make a case for that in IBO since the organization that stopped the Calamity War has, over time, become corrupted to the point that open rebellion against it is occurring. Also the technology is not stagnant, MacGillis says that Gjallarhorn continued to develop the AV technology until recently. And back to the "constant cycle of war" there is also the fact that Gjallarhorn is shown/said to regularly incite small rebellions in order to stave off a full-scale war. And in ep25 you have McMurder and Nobliss Gordon talking about how spreading distrust of Gjallarhorn will now lead to increased militarization everywhere. Not to mention the fact that the main character group are mercenaries who've spent their whole lives in a constant cycle of war.
>Your hometown was only mentioned in one stop-motion Soviet cartoon.
>It was licensed by Japanese.
>>14059838
Which one?
>>14059848
it's so obscure not even the anon born in it knows the name of his town
>>14059838
You've got it better than me, anon.
An alternate-reality knock-off of The Flash (in a Marvel comic) ran from Georgia to Washington DC once, which means he most likely ran through my state (SC) and that's the closest my city has ever come to being mentioned in anything that isn't about the Revolutionary or Civil War.
>>14059820
In any case, putting the universes in any kind of order is retarded. I refer to them as universes because drawing any connections between them will bring up countless errors. If you can fix the whole world after AW or FC era, who is to say that Sydney doesn't get crater'd anew every timeline?
Turn A is special specifically because it is the unification of Gundam. The endless war between eras is different from a war followed by a rebellion that you see in other series, barring maybe Endless Waltz's specific reference to mankind's tendencies.
>>14059869
Christ you're autistic
>>14059867
I'm not talking about the town, I'm talking about the cartoon.
>>14059886
But if you view the various shows as different eras in the history of the same planet, then the endless cycle of wars is very apparent. Even as far back as MSG you had the fact that the newtype, which was supposed to be the next evolution of humanity to a higher form capable of understanding, was used only for war. And this is in a setting where a unified world government exists, which should preclude any and all regional conflicts. And mankind has the bloodiest war in human history for the purpose of getting *out* of this unity. Zeta's "just because you understand someone doesn't mean you can get along with them" solidifies this message that conflict will always exist. ZZ had the children of the losing side rebelling against the Federation over a glorified candy-coated version of what their parents died for. CCA has the psycoframe sample focus the collective will of all of humanity to avert destruction, then they turn around and have Cosmo Babylonia and Zanscare. You don't even have to leave the second century of UC to see the endless cycle of war that is inherent in human behavior. The existence of the other eras having conflicts which are not directly precipitated by events in earlier shows reinforces the idea that man will *always* find something to go to war over.
>>14059848
https://anidb.net/a7885
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheboksary
>>14059867
Kek.
>>14059869
According to Wiki, SC was in Full Metal Jacket and several other movies.
>>14059609
Fling poopon monthly doses, backed by contracts
>>14059580
>tfw colonies start dropping on your home city
My city (Fortaleza, in Brazil) was were Gundam Stargazer was developed, and the first OVA is all set in the city. They show a few scenes of the city during the Break the World operation, like explosions around the stadium, the big bridge being hit by a flood, etc.
It seems kinda random for such a city that is magnitudes less known than Rio. I guess someone from the production staff was either from Fortaleza or toured the city once.
>>14059580
>>14059584
>>14059591
this is so fucking lazy
when is IBO meant to be set?
>>14059961
>>14059991
>Anime set in Straya
>A character is dying from a heart failure
Easy escape.
>>14059580
>Guys we're losing 6-18 demographic! What do we do??
>Well transformers is popular
>>14059580
>>14059584
>>14059591
I'm pretty sure they picked this place with the most boring architecture you can imagine simply because it was easy to draw
>>14059991
>ef is in Australia
Wait what, Otowa is in Australia?!?!
>>14059991
Where's Japan?
>>14060035
Half of the series takes place in Australia where that violin guy and the blond girl live.
>>14059991
>Germany
>Not Tekkaman Blade II
One job
>>14060045
if it were a mecha specific chart, sure.
>>14059838
My hometown was mentioned once in an episode of Sienfeld and again in 30 Rock.
>giant robots will never battle in your city because its downtown skyline is kinda dull
Columbus escapes destruction again!
JIBUUN WO!
>>14060040
No it doesn't.
>>14059991
India when>?
>>14059941
But the same is true if you simply acknowledge that this is the theme of Gundam. Each one is about wars after wars after wars, especially throughout UC, G, X, and Turn A. They don't need to be connected because they (with a few exceptions, like 00 Ayywakening and kind of Destiny) never solve the root of the problem. Once the heroes are gone from the spotlight, war will return. Usually even sooner. It is just mankind's fate and each universe reinforces it separately.
>30m from Anaheim
>easy drive to LA or Hollywood, somewhat longer drive to SF
Not me specifically but Southern California gets plenty of screen time.
>>14059820
The MG Turn X's manual literally says "Every Gundam show but BF took place in the same universe, even the ones from shows after Turn A. This is possible because history is bullshit and people believe what they want to believe."
You'd have to be a complete idiot to get "ALL OF THE SHOWS HAPPENED EXACTLY AS THEY WERE TOLD IN SOME SPECIFIC ORDER WOOO LET'S ZELDA TIMELINE THIS SHIT" out of that.
Sadly, most of /m/ really is that dumb.
>>14059652
Wrong. Then we must have beam weapons and newtypes. Much autism bro.
>>14060737
The infamous Black History scene in features a scattershot of various clips from various shows. For a long time, people used this as an argument that all of the shows took place in the same timeline, because how else could all of that footage have been compiled?
The MG Turn X manual throws this theory completely upside its head by instead saying that all of those scenes really did happen in the same timeline, but the shows they're from aren't necessarily the truth. There /is/ some true timeline out there that features elements from every single Gundam show, but we've never watched it. It is a nebulous past (a "black history", if you will) that we only have some snippets of data from, and from these snippets various interpretations of history created numerous stories: the Gundam shows we know and (arguably) love.
That is the in-universe explanation for why every single Gundam series ultimately tries to tackle the same themes and often feature similar plot elements. Because they are all just different interpretations of the same basic story that to this day we still don't know the whole truth of.
>>14060784
Incidentally I would love to see some in-universe debate where some historians get into a spat over whether the Future Century theory makes more sense than the After Colony theory.
oh wait
that's /m/
>>14060743
>Then we must have beam weapons and newtypes.
Neither of those things have ever been consistent in Gundam
Stay cross.
>>14059991
I thought Black Lagoon was Somalia.
>>14060792
What's the After Colony theory?
That G is connected to UC and Wing since Crossbone and Wing both appear in it?
>>14060070
>implying the entirety of Ohio wouldn't be a wasteland by then.
>>14060815
Wing's timeline is called After Colony.
>>14059704
Enjoy your corrupt as fuck, pocky-munching leader
>>14060825
>Implying the entirety of Ohio isn't already a wasteland.
>>14059991
>Mexico
>South Korea
>China
what ainmus
>>14060743
Not consistent?
Beam weapons? Really?
It's because some are in different universe. Like UC and CE that came after AD timeline. Much like what your PD, it in another universe not in UC, CC amd Reguild.
>>14061007
China's CANAAN, Mexico is El Cazador de la Bruja. South Korea looks familiar but the name escapes me.
>>14060808
No. PD belongs to completely different universe. Look for CE amd UC
>>14061007
South Korea is Winter Sonata. It's a super boring romance story.
>>14061020
[citation needed]
Zeon chased the White Base over Lake Mead, Nevada, which is within 30 minutes driving distance or less from where I live.
That's kinda cool, I guess.
>>14059580
That buildings logo is suspiciously similar to Anaheim Electronics.
>>14060737
>>14060784
Just for the record.
http://pastebin.com/DPLgZy5Z
>BLACK HISTORY
>"Black History" in Turn A Gundam is the records of wars that were sealed away, but also has another meaning- That of the concept that all Gundam series shows, starting with Mobile Suit Gundam in 1979, exist in a single timeline. In other words,1979's Mobile Suit Gundam's UC marks the beginning of humanity's space age, and 1999's Turn A Gundam's CC is its final stage. The timelines broadcast up to that point, G's FC, Wing's AC, and X's AW, as well as 2002's Seed's CE, 2007's 00's AD, and 2011's Age's AG, and all other Gundam series to come are a part of black history as well (Gundam Build Fighters seems to be an exception). The gimmicks that made this possible are nanotechnology and black history. In real life, history is filled with numerous different perceptions and interpretations, and there are countless cases of fabrications gaining momentum and being treated as fact. In the end, it may be that people only believe what they want to believe.
Pretty sure the parenthetical part is just a translator note that GBF wasn't mentioned in an otherwise pretty explicit list of AUs to that point.
>>14060737
This, just this.
I swear trying to put all the Gundam series in a linear timeline its one of the most retarded things ive seen here.
Even more knowing the different aproach that westerners an Japan have about what we consider canon.
>>14061015
>in different universe
Nice fanfic.
Problem is that CC already includes FC. And if there's ever been anything in Gundam that you *might* exclude because it can't be explained, it's G Gundam's super powered kung fu. Dismissing any other show because of some inconsistency in the setting pointless when you have one show where people can kick skyscrapers into the air which is confirmed to be part of the canon UC->CC timeline. You cannot get rid of that, so you might as well overlook the absence of beams in in PD.
>Nerds complaining about copy-paste from reality.
Shame.
>>14060784
Thank you for finally spelling that out. I admit that Black History always confused me.
>>14059991
>China and Mexico
>blonde girls
Yeah, okay.
No Gundams for me but I've got to roll with Oshii's stuff instead.
>>14059580
I live in the town where Amuro lived as an instructor for the MS pilot academy between 0079 and Zeta.
I can understand why Amuro was so miserable there.
>>14059635
Stuff it Calgarian.
>building in question irl is associated engineering
>logo is AE
>Anaheim Electronics
PD after UC
>>14059580
It's amazing how they managed to make Edmonton look even blander than it actually is.
30 years ago Tomino was blowing up Hong Kong.
>>14059596
greetings from jaburo, man
>>14059580
I just realized there was never really a sense of MS scale in IBO. Most scenes with MS were either hangars, space battles or open fields until they got to Edmonton.
>>14061387
The difference being that Tomino made all of UC, CC, and RC mainline. If you want to talk about inconsistency, why don't we talk about the inconsistency of Gundams and wildly different technology based on totally different science 90% of the time? AUs are AUs faggot. They're glorified fan fiction. As it turns out, kicking a skyscraper into the air isn't a setting inconsistency. The absence of Minovsky tech, wildly different space colonies, and any other change like this breaks any connection between the timelines outside of some oblique background reference the artists put in for a quick giggle.
>>14059584
I know, i'll try spinning! That's a good trick!
>>14059580
>tfw gunpla battles hosted in your home city
feels good
>>14062103
Cheyenne? I live in Fort Collins and have been there a few times
so are the timelines connected or not I dont really understand it seems to contradict each other. Also trying to wrap my mind around Wing being the same timeline as UC.
>>14063889
1. Lurk moar.
2. Who gives a shit?
3. UC, CC and RG are for sure. These are the only ones that are 100% fact and non-negotiable.
4. Yes, but there's so much conflicting info and leaps of logic you have to go through that they're basically separate universes. Trying to draw connections between them is insane. Not to mention that the series are extremely far apart in time.
>>14063841
I driven there plenty of times since Cheyenne is such a wasteland for shit to do. Ft Collins is like a half-hour away, but weather is so different.
>>14063912
Huh So what your saying is each timeline Likely restarts with the creation of a God Gundam that repairs the world and starts fresh...
Kinda sad no one will every have a gaint mecha fights ware I live Boston always steals the show in tv or movies
>>14059584
>monkey mart
toppestkek
>>14063918
No, that's not what I said.
why fucking edmonton of all places?
>A FUCKING LEAF
>>14062309
>It's amazing how they managed to make Edmonton look even blander than it actually is.
They should've traced more of our brutalist buildings.
>>14064178
dude i ask myself that everyday
>People STILL think there's a literal timeline you can piece together for every Gundam show
Turn-A's use of it was THEMATIC you massive fags, you weren't supposed to piece together a literal timeline of what shows take place after or before others. Any attempt to do so is absolutely stupid because there is no way every show can fit together on a straight timline without there being massive holes.
>>14061387
Is this a fanfic ?
>>14064562
Edmonton has some pretty Orwellian-brutal architectureFellow U of A fags, look at the Rutherford and FAB buildings, for example
>>14065169
I don't think Rutherford works, but don't forget forget SUB and the Humanities building.
>mfw
>>14065143
>not the updated version
>>14065143
Yes, actually.
It's that timeline isn't officially endorsed by BN nor Sunrise. It looks like something somebody posted on Reddit.
>>14060011
>I'm pretty sure they picked this place with the most boring architecture you can imagine simply because it was easy to draw
A Canadian suggest that a Sunrise employee might have went to a business meeting in the area, and that it why most of the streets used are around the area he would have seen.
>>14060784
so gundam tried to be macross. bravo tomino.
>>14065747
macek you crazy jew.
>>14065143
>Invasion of the Zancascar
>Cosmo Babalion
Ok, it got a chuckle out of me.
>>14065734
Humanties maybe, but SUB just has the stark, out of place tower thing going
Rutherford North is pretty brutal
The way it is tacked on to Rutherford South reminds me of Combine architecture in HL2
>>14060196
When they need to take a shit on the street.
>>14059652
"One Timeline" theory aside, even if you take the show at face value, the big war everyone always talks about took place like 300 years prior, which would make those buildings absolutely no newer than 300 years old. I wish Sunrise thought a bit more about what they were doing here.
>>14068019
>the big war everyone always talks about took place like 300 years prior, which would make those buildings absolutely no newer than 300 years old.
That's under the assumption that the original buildings have been destroyed and identical ones reconstructed in their place.
>>14068019
>which would make those buildings absolutely no newer than 300 years old
Why would it? There are buildings still standing today after multiple wars that are older than 300 years.
>>14068339
Really, someone would reconstruct a fucking liquor store in the exact same place because why exactly?
>>14061955
While indigenous peoples and those of mixed heritage make up the majority of Mexicans, there are a good number (at least 10-20% or so) who are "more European". You see them *all* the time on Mexican TV in much the same way Americans focus on lighter skinned black people or red heads to the point where you'd think they're more popular than they really are.
They aren't the face of Mexico in America because Americans focus on immigrants, and most "White Latinos" are generally better off and have no need to immigrate, and even if they did, people in America wouldn't be able to tell them apart from American white people at first glance.
But yeah, there are blonde people in Mexico.
>>14063081
this is very true of a lot of Gundam though, especially 0079.
I'd say the ones that are good for it are Turn A, F91, 00 and maybe Wing.
>>14059611
Did you see any beam sabers in IBO?
Neither did I, not even sure if the weapons were firing projectiles but it seems like they were.
What does this tell you?
>>14065747
hold the fuck up
>No crossbone
I wouldn't be so proud if a shitty anime blew up my city.
>>14063914
You can drive through the countryside in an antique car with your girlfriend
I know it's not /m/ but the mall in the Amazing World of Gumball uses pictures of the mall near where I live
>>14059741
>yfw the House of Soviets of the RFSFSR was moved into a colony
Goddamn you, Yeltsin. You always get the last laugh.
>>14060196
Wasn't one of the episodes of the first Read or Die OVA set in India? It was alluding to Journey to the West.
>>14060319
there are like 10000 variations of this shot
>>14059741
>>14078568
>No Swan Lake in the OST
They missed a great joke.
>>14059991
>Venezuela
What show?
>>14059961
>Muh hometown Sydney never even got a chance to see gendums, wiped off the planet right from the get-go.
>>14060813
naa, too much buddhism iconography for Somalia, definitely SEA. plus they have to be near-ish to both Japan and Russia
>>14065747
...Robotech....
Go die in a fire.
>>14068374
You tell me.
I personally believe that that the buildings are much >300yo.
>>14080682
This is an +18 site.
>>14060011
1 - they went to google for images of Edmonto to trace
2 - they had someone who was already at Edmonton take pictures to trace
This show consistently had crap layouts anyway so they really sure didn't feel like bothering.
>>14080974
>+18
WTF, I'm 50 now.
>>14082079
What was your first car and what age did you buy it?
You're just making yourself look new, don't dig the hole deeper.
>>14082083
What if I never owned a car? It's 18 +, not + 18.
>>14082229
If you're a 50 year old American, you will have owned a car, especially growing up in the 70s. If you aren't American, you have no reason to hate Robotech. Fuck off retard.
>>14082238
70s/80s, that is.
>>14082238
>If you're a 50 year old
32 + 18 = 50. It was the joke.
>If you aren't American, you have no reason to hate Robotech.
Never said I hate it. Btw why can't I?
>tfw New Zealand
>tfw too irrelevant for gundams to ever come in and smash up the hipsters Wellington
At least we got those Kangaroo fuckers.
