Currently playing Front Mission 3, and I will say I am enjoying it. Will we ever get more Front Mission besides evolved?
>>14058733
>Will we ever get more Front Mission besides evolved?
Will Ryogo ever not spam ROFUP I and Zoom I?
>Will we ever get more Front Mission besides evolved?
http://www.gamespot.com/articles/front-mission-being-revived-at-square-enix-report/1100-6427922/
At least they're trying.
>>14058738
Why would you ever NOT want him to spam ROFUP1? It chains with itself.
FM5 was fun, squad tactics are fun, shame Launchers are basically worthless.
>>14058733
Is it true that the english scripts of the front mission games were heavily edited to be less grimdark and more of a T rating?
>>14059176
FM is one of those things that unfortunately got the short end of the stick in localization.
3 got the worst of it, because they edited out all references to the other games. Also they censored it.
>>14058754
>the Armored Core producer
Oh neat, I wonder what game he was behind
>V, VD
FUCK.
Well, I guess slow and plodding can work with a turn-based game
>>14059479
V and VD are only slow and plodding if you're not playing with other players, who are just zooming around the map like cunts and kicking people in the face
>>14059485
>V and VD are only slow and plodding if you're not playing with other players
Front Mission isn't really supposed to be a 2-player game. Only Evolved is really like that.
>>14059517
I know, I'm just saying that V/VD are closer to the cutscenes of Front Mission, with a bunch of faggots zooming around and firing billions of missiles, than the relaxed pace of the turn-based strategy
>>14058754
>http://www.gamespot.com/articles/front-mission-being-revived-at-square-enix-report/1100-6427922/
Oh, sweet! I'll be keeping an eye on this.
>>14059527
FM4 and 5 intros were great.
>>14059527
In fairness, Gun Hazard was pretty good, and that's a platformer.
>>14059176
The Front Mission series was actually created with a western release in mind. If I remember correctly Toshiro Tsuchida actually had large portions of the games in English and ready for an easy localization when Square was like "Nah" and just decided not to go through with it.
That's the reason most people never heard of Front Mission in the west until 3 randomly appeared because he finally pushed it through.
And 3 actually did well! Well enough that Square, in their infinite wisdom, set WAAAY too high of a goal for Front Mission 4 and considered it a flop when it didn't sell like crazy.
That's the reason we also didn't get 5, even though 5 was very good.
Front Mission: Evolved was a travesty and Toshiro Tsuchida left Square when he wasn't even allowed to participate in it's development. I have low hopes for a new Front Mission game now that the creator of the series is gone.
>>14058754
>June 9, 2015
Don't do this to me, anon.
RiP Angelo Pineda, at least you tried.
>>14059573
It takes more than a year to make a game
>>14059598
Yeah but has there been a single bit of news about it since this article? Seems more like a baseless rumor.
I've inly played 3 and 4, both are some of my favorite games. I really enjoyed 4 the most and it is still one the best turn based strategy games I've played. 4 defiantly felt a lot different then 3 as well.
>>14058733
I bought a Front Mission Zenith action figure from suncoast movies with I was 12. I could never find the game it belonged to, and I just randomly found a copy at a used video game store about a year ago.
>>14058836
Sometimes I want to capture something, like that extremely rare Ho Qibing 0 I think it has more value to me in one piece than as a scrap heap.
>>14059569
>The Front Mission series was actually created with a western release in mind.
>every game exported is gimped for localization in some way
>the only FM thing that wasn't was Dog Life & Dog Style, of all things, and even then it only came out in Europe and French-Canadian regions
Tsuchida just can't catch a break. Wonder what that new company he's working at is...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GREE
>pay-to-win
A fate worse than death.
Something that always bothered me was pilots not having hard numbered stats, just seems like it shouldn't be missing for a mecha game.
>>14058733
I was playing this until my game started freezing.
I suppose this is what I get for emulation
>>14059767
It freezes because of the electricity effects, turn the animations off.
![art15[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/qwunU3e.jpg "art15[1].jpg")
>>14059767
http://emulation-general.wikia.com/wiki/PlayStation_emulators
Were you using pSX? I had the same problem; It would freeze and crash once a Wanzer lost a part.
Use ePSXe or PCSX-R. It may be daunting at first with the plugins and all. Don't miss this game out.
>>14059809
>People actually like Pham
>People actually use the Recson
>People don't make the effort to capture Imaginary Number wanzers
>Someone, somewhere actually painted their Zeroes white and renamed it Tallgeese
>>14059809
It was ePSXe170, to be exact.
It keeps freezing after a stage I recall being close to right after the battle with the Extended mercenaries, with the Indian, Black and Carzy guys, I'll have to look up the stage again.
The issue is, that for some reason, ePSXe won't save on the memory card, and all of my attempts to recreate one have failed (unless I was just doing it wrong), so I can't exactly transfer emulators either.
>>14059809
>>14059836
You should be using Mednafen running through Retroarch at this point.
>>14059647
I don't understand the context of your image
>>14059828
That's so guy who captures more Wanzers than he destroys.Me
>>14059656
So use a missiles/rifler unit?
![870102182[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/7TTm994.jpg "870102182[1].jpg")
>>14059828
>Snotty brat that slightly matures as the game progresses.
>Comes with a butler.
>Specializes in melee, so you know you're gonna start wrecking shit with Stun Punch, Eject Punch, Tackle...
>It's not a jobber like Emma.
You have Grade A+ waifu material Miho, Yun Lai Fa and her L33T H4xxx0R charm, but i just keep choosing Pham again and again, always deplying her in missions. Must be the only one.
>>14060001
>Emma
>Jobber
Think again, she's the anchor. Launcher with a shield and machine gun, solid setup
Favorite weapon combination?
Even though shotty/machinegun destroys everything every game, I find baz/machinegune more fun.
>>14060024
DOUBLE. FIST.
>>14059843
Do you have instructions on how this works, kind sir?
>>14060019Not after Lukav leaves her like a potato after taking out the MIDAS activation information from her with his Übermensch dick
Are there melee weapons in this game?
If so, how viable is a melee only robot?
Or is it one of those games where you HAVE to start with a slow shitty robutt who only uses guns and if you want to make a fast choppy unit you have to wait until the end game cause that's where all the good robots are?
>>14060076
DOUBLE.
FIST.
Have you ever punched an enemy machine so hard HIS TORSO CAME OFF HIS BODY?
>>14060076
You can you your mech's 'bare fist', their equivalent of a brass knuckle, piles, shield bashing, robo maces, and full on mecha tackles.
>>14060076
Yes
Incredibly
No. You can start smacking people in the face within maybe 1 or 2 missions.
>>14060024
Gun+shield or melee+shield, 9x ROFUP1 and 9xTackle1, never needed more than that.
>>14060064
>Alisa's route
>going the inferior route
>>14060084
I would rather have swords than maces
>>14060095
>I would rather have swords than maces
But that's stupid, how can you effectivelt cause blunt trauma bashing mechs with a sword?
>>14060081
>>14060084
>>14060085
Yes. This pleases me.
>>14060085
>within maybe 1 or 2 missions.
Excellent.
>>14060095
These games have never had swords, which is frankly dumb
They have pilebunkers and rods, why not sharp rods
>>14060019
No you give her two launchers.
![Augsburg_Cod.I.6.4º.2_(Codex_Wallerstein)_107v[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/aAkPF6u.jpg "Augsburg_Cod.I.6.4º.2_(Codex_Wallerstein)_107v[1].jpg")
>>14060098
>But that's stupid, how can you effectivelt cause blunt trauma bashing mechs with a sword?
Same way they've always done it
If it's good enough for knechts, it's good enough for mechs
>>14060100
Because the games at least attempt to keep an air of realism. There's no way a sword would be sharp enough or strong enough to be wielded against a big ass robot, unless you made it so thick it was a club. A pile and a club are both more feasible in terms of durability and ability to damage a heavily armored opponent.
>>14060104
So you're saying... put swords in... even though the only effective way to use them would be to wield them like a club? At that point all you've got is a smaller club with a flimsier handle.
>>14060130
>Because the games at least attempt to keep an air of realism
Bipedal war machines
So no
>>14060104
>>14060134
Even in the first argument about this the pic shows that it's more effective to use blunt attacks on a heavily armored enemy which is what mechs are.
>>14060144
No the other guy is halfswording, which is also an effective method of attack against armor
Which means that swords and clubs should go fuck themselves, where the warhammers at
>>14060151
>bashing with the handle
>not blunt
And clubs and hammers do the same thing.
Axes are obviously the better option if you want an old cutting implement
>>14060134
Anyone with half a brain knows how a fictional setting can have it's own established rules. Just because there is one area that defies traditional logic, doesn't mean that every rule just goes out the window.
>>14060151
I don't think wanzers are really dexterous enough to effectively utilize them any differently from a club. So not really much point.
>>14060164
>I don't think wanzers are really dexterous enough to effectively utilize them any differently from a club
But it's got a spike AND a hammer end
And if you really wanted to mechanize things, you could have the spike end be a pilebunker, thus providing you with a reach advantage superior to that of actual pilebunkers
>>14060062
You need the bios and I forget what else. I think Retroarch's site tells you how to set it up.
>>14060160
No, hammers are vastly superior to clubs for the same reason pilebunkers are superior to fists or bullets are superior to pretty much anything
Same amount of force concentrated in a smaller area means armor penetration, meaning you're more likely to hit the vittles, like the articulation, the power plant, or the pilot
>>14060100
You can get swords in the 5th game, they're treated as rods.
Hey guys, any of you know wtf is Driscolls´ Wanzer name (Mir Orlen) means in english? I can get Mir (World or Peace) but Orlen is not translatable lol
>>14059698
Not only that, the Front Mission series Translation Project is down, so if you're willing to translate 2, Alternative, and every other games, sans the mobile phone ones, and all light novels and manga, we're all out of luck.
>>14060076
Back in Front Mission 1 my Yang was the biggest BAMF on my team. She punches everything to death. Every now and then she'd proc double multiple times and just literally punch the enemy to bits.
I just had to give up on FM3 I am 40 hours in the Chinese campaign on a mission where you had to split up your party unfortunately I mostly focused on leveling 4 members of my team which worked perfectly together but now I have to split them up and the 2nd mission where I use my b team is so hard I doubt my best men could do it. Shit
>>14060285
IIRC sword rods were introduced in Second.
>>14060352
It's just gibberish, no adequate Russian meaning.
>>14061856
Grind in the emulator. Strangely Alisa route has no such issues (in Emma route you even get the split on like second to last mission), if you don't count Liu's bullshit.
>>14060076
Darril Stonk
>>14060101
mah nigga
>>14061953
Had him with the Blackrock and Orgon rod lategame, Double Assault abuse is fun. The Russian lady from Elsa's route is probably the only pure melee in the game and boy is it fun to have her linked with everyone, you haven't lived until you do like 3k damage to Svinets and Wagner just by hitting them with a stick.
>>14059809
Use the more up to date one:
http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Playstation
You can use mednafen and it plays fine.
>>14061910
It is the 2nd to last mission I am stuck on so infuriating
>>14061970
Latona a best
EMP was fun, but pure melee build a funner
>>14061994
EMP took away from her punching power so I removed it.
>>14060062
There's a whole fucking general on /vg/ about emulation you retard.
We were going to, but nobody fucking donated, even people who constantly bitch about Front Mission being dead.
>>14062022
a glib fascimile
Why does Elsa's official art make her look so fucking weird?
>>14062108
fm4 art tends to do that to everyone
Shame best wanzer only popped up in the survival sim and Evolved.
So, Zenith or Frost?
>>14061985
And I guess you have overwritten the save file before the split? Try getting and abusing some skills for your second team that cripple enemies/boost your survivability like Eject Punch, Escape, Arm Smash, Defence II etc.
>>14062269
Frost master race.
>>14061910
I seem to recall Emma's route having a lot of team splits including one in the Philippines, and two or three for some Hua Lian Rebel stages. Also that the Hua Lian Rebel sub-commander looked like Chun Li.
>>14058733
Well that's it.
I will use cheat code and win both 1 and 2.
Sorry ,when ti comes to games like this where one has to choose the combo for win,I totally suck in that.
>>14062283
>He bought America
I bet your Recson falls apart just sitting in the hanger.
>>14062303
Yeah but having it just before the final boss is a dick move (especially when you can beat Alisa route with same 4 people). Like the game basically demands you to grind for cash and exp 2 times more.
>>14062326
I grind a lot either way, either for points, parts, or learning battle skills may as well keep everyone leveled. Except Lenny, fuck that guy and his fart powered Wanzer.
>>14062321
look Hua Lian we told you not to use them as Assault Wanzers, that's on you
didn't original front mission got a ported in DS why nobody is talking about it?
>>14062022
it looks like shit to be honest
>>14062321
Recson are literally made to just sit in one place and do nothing but shoot. I remember the Recson H being so fucking heavy you couldn't even put the thing together without a turbo BP
>>14062350
Does Diable Avionics have 2 launcher-types, or just the Drake? I know the Frost and Blizzaia can be used as launchers, but they're more or less Assault-types with the armor of a Striker and movement of a Gunner.
>>14062384
Frost HW is a fucking beast and Frost C is basically a launcher.
>>14062384
Grapple could pull the launcher role theoretically
>>14062393
So what is the Drake supposed to be, a one off or something?
>>14058738
You can swap his mech with MC's ASAP if you really want that. I mean it's all customisable.
>>14058733
Wait for translations?
>My feels that FM2 translations are netdead.
>>14059444
I thought FM3 got bretty gud banter , at least for Ryo le pimp.
>>14062393
>will never contemplate complex GEOPOLITICS in the war wind blowing through your genetically modified slavic/aryan hair while perched on your fierce steed's arms
>>14060888
AFAIK, it's pretty easy to get the whole damn team to learn double punch with some grinding. But that'll make the game more than easy. Alternatively, put missiles on everyone and watch the fireworks.
>>14062022
Er. I dunno. Mechwarrior mod for Crysis Warhead looks 100x better than that, and it's "free" minus the price of buying Crysis. It's not turn-based though.
>>14060001
>Snotty brat
Flip Asuka clone is a shit.
>Emma jobber.
Missiles are OP as fug. Asuka-fags are retarded.
>>14059828
Rifle arms are okay...
Capturing the numbers was easy for me as I had the whole team learn pilotkill, and I could force surrenders with grenades. I don't like their mech parts though.
>>14062447
Gunners were shit until 5 made them good, even with 4's links they weren't stellar wanzer types.
>>14062456
Ziege was fun in 4 but I didn't bother with more than one gunner on either side. Shame Launchers were pointless in 5, missiles don't do nearly enough damage to justify taking up a slot, instead I ended up running 2 gunners. Zoom with a good gatling does some mad damage since Zoom makes every bullet hit, even better if you're running the gatling on a assault type pilot which gives you access to Speed I/II/III and Barrage for true bullet hell action.
>Emma route ends with the MC banging Emma
>Alisa route doesn't end with the MC banging Alisa despite him being a blatant siscon
boo
>>14062682
Well what can you do, Square-Enix's US branch is afraid of incest. The same thing happened to Drakengard's mentions of incest.
>>14062696
It's literally the second purest form of love, though. Why are they so scared of it?
>>14062557
Gatling on Assault types? Sounds crazy
>>14062682
What's to say that he doesn't? Emma and I guess his dad just happen to also be there in that scenario, Kazuki can make it work though
>>14062682
Emma is hotter is why
>>14062702
They don't want to incur the wrath of parents, although that would be silly since those games aren't meant for kids anyways.
>>14062682
>>14062786
That's a cheeky edit to the Etymology section that someone stuck in there
>>14062696
Except in Drakengard she outright kills herself because her brother doesn't want to put his sword in her. It's a plot point.
Alisa is such a mary sue compared to Emma.
>Super genius 22 year
>Head USN scientist somewhere
>Accomplished pilot equal to aces
>Invented a nuclear bomb that leaves no background radiation
>>14063261
Well, she isone of those genetically modified Imaginary Number superhumans, isn't she?
>>14063266
She is, but so is Alisa. Between the two I still like Emma more, she has a lot more character to her. She's also in FM5 too I believe.
>>14063274
She is, has a nice voice, tries to bed Walter while his wife is away.
>>14062786
Was ir rape?
>>14063337
What a slut. I almost made her muh waifu.
>>14062360
Original was always the best
Something about the 2d appealed more
http://www.dualshockers.com/2016/03/10/square-enix-teases-another-classic-crossover-with-front-mission-first-x-figureheads/
Was this the "new Front Mission" we were waiting for?
>Testing my sweet ass brand new sekrit Hoshun and it's beam gun
>Body Smash activated
I feel like Amuro picking Zakus with Gundam's beam rifle
>>14064413
>Amuro
>Zaku
So wrong. A first or 2nd gen zaku shouldn't have enough power to fuel a beamgun.
>>14064228
PS1 version sounds okay with improved graphix. Too bad about annoying PS1 loading times.
>http://www.mobygames.com/game/playstation/front-mission-1st/screenshots
>>14065344
>So wrong
Anon, by 'picking' I mean like Amuro IN Gundam WITH beam rifle SHOOTING Zakus around
Man, being a fan of Front Mission sucks so much. We never get any love.
>>14059569
>Square shat on everything
I can't say I like them very much.
>>14060019
>machine gun
No. Never. Shotguns.
ガハハハハハ
>>14065414
>Shotguns
Enjoy your inferior range you redneck
>>14063337
Hot. Didnt darril end up fucking elisas french baguette hole?
Why ever use Grenades?
>>14058733
So basically my choices are:
>Emma Route: join America and party with real bros, get best waifu, and be an up-right japanese citizen
or
>Alisa Route: get a harem of women, never bang anyone like an actual harem protagonist, still grovel before dad
Tough choice.
>>14065966
>Emma route has rebel shenanigans
>Alisa route has Chinese army bureaucracy
>>14059613
the new saga game for the vita had no news for almost a year
>>14066001
EMMA
ALL
DAY
>>14065928
Why ever use Flamethrowers?
>>14066001
Plus that old guy who can kick wanzers in half.
>>14066770
To burn time.
>>14067368
It was a Recson that hardly counts
>100 years in the future
>Australia is a superpower with half of Asia under its control
What the fuck happened
>>14069754
Geopolitics.
>tfw I picked Alisa route becauseI like that damn name
M-maybe I'll restart.
Right just finished Emma's campaign in front mission 3 on my psp went to start on a fan translated version of FM2, I downloaded forever ago and discovered none of the in-between battle dialogue has been translated Isozone the website I got It from said there was a translated script for all the story on the translator's website but the site is down and it looks like the translation will never be completed. Don't suppose anyone has that script
>>14069754
They let the emu lose on others
>>14069944
Im sure I have it somewhere on my PC, Ill post it if I find it anon
>>14069958
HOLY SHIT I never imagined someone would have it. Thank so much.
>you will never play Front Mission alternative or 2089 in English
Damn you, frontmission.info
>>14070083
No English Front Mission 5 either
My name is going to be a USN Striker pilot
>>14069903
>>14070106
Yes there is I have been playing it on my ps2 with swap magic works perfectly.
http://www.theisozone.com/downloads/playstation/ps2-isos/front-mission-5-scars-of-the-war-eng-patched-jap/
>>14070106
>No English Front Mission 5 either
How are you people still so incompetent, is anything that requires a modicum of effort to do on your own too hard for you?
What does /m/ think of the manga?
>>14070423
fucking loved it does anyone have a download link for all of it?
>>14070083
If only there'd be Alternative script on the net... There's not a lot of text in the game and it's kinda simple so I was thinking about doing it, but making screenshots with that fucking autoscroll thing is a pain.
>>14070637
GM gained some weight
>>14069903
I feel like the game meant for you to do the Emma route first.
http://pastebin.com/jxzU2yuE
For all the anons who missed the Front Mission 2 translation
>>14071012
I remember I went Emma's route first, that first blind playthrough where you put Striker legs with a Launcher body and Assault arms
>>14070423
Enough to warn to you the translation is unfinished.
>>14071268
That's just the script for that earlier anon I take it? Good luck to anyone who would try to combine it with the whole game, I read they hit some killer encryption for 1997, or whatever year 2 released.
>>14071012
Yeah, I remember Alisa route has Lukav with big spider Wanzer thing while in Emma route Lukav only has that big orange Wanzer with wings in final battle (which I kill in one shot with body smash in turn 1).
Are there any model kits for Wanzers out there that arent the shitty FM Evolved ones?
I love the mech designs for this series so much, its a shame its so obscure
>FM5
>You're partnering up with Hell's Wall
>Think I will get to fight against the FM1 cast
>Opening cutscene is them getting murked and you mopping up some remnants
welp.
>>14072543
It also pissed me off that the USN and OCU stories in FM1 never connected.
At least there was some decent cameos though.
>>14071822
Nah, I was talking about the Alternative script. It'd be actually okay with only the script translation since menus can be switched to English and there are no basically dialogues with random people and stuff, just storyline.
Second seemed kinda meh storywise to me, what with the abnormal survivor Wen and whatnot.
>>14072526
Yes there where some front mission 2 kits but they are so rare if you ever see one on sale expect to spend around £200.
What exactly is Hell's Wall?
>>14073195
They are an elite group from USN who participated in the Huffman´s conflicts. The final boss of FM1 was their leader, Driscoll.
>>14073235
From what little info there is, they all use customized Frosts? They any good?
>>14073268
Frost HWs are great, auto repair on something that's not a zenith is pretty rare in 5.
>>14073287
What do they use them for? Assaults? Strikers?
Eh, I got stuck on like the last or second to last mission on the second playthrough with the moving platforms (Alisa storyline) but I got like 50 hours out of the game and beat it once so that's good enough for me
>>14073365
Assaults.
>>14071268
Thank you so much
>>14073365
>not Assaults
>>14073062
there was one for the Frost on ebay for a hundred
and it got sold
>>14066001
>Emma route has rebel shenanigans
Sponsored by taiwan rethugicans!!!
>>14066770
They're almost as OP as grenades once you max AP and get some accuracy upgrades.Double assault or DoubleShot2 works too.
Too bad only Alisha's route has one guy who can do maximum damage with them.
>>14071012
Wasn't Alisha's the easier mode?
>>14075687
Well Alisa's route has less team splits, and you don't fight the Imaginary Numbers as many times but you're also locked out of the Qibing 0.
>>14075687
Emma's route has you fight harder enemies, but Alisha's route generally requires more strategy
>>14075718
Hardly, Alisa's route you just get more deadweight like Lui or Miho. Fucking useless rifle users
>Final Fantasy XV and 7 remake are huige of succesful and make loads of money
>Square uses the money to bring back Front Mission
Could it ever happen, guys?
>>14076812
No, instead they use the money to remake Xenogears.
>>14076812
Even if it did happen, no way would the modern SquareEnix make a proper turn based Front Mission we will never get a new FM game again.
>>14076227
>Miho
>rifle user
What.
She runs the same SG/melee setup as Kazuki by default.
Though I always make her SG/MG, because I don't need another Kazuki.
>>14076812
They would use said money to remake various other early FFs instead, more like.I honestly wouldn't mind this, since I have a friend who prefers action RPGs.
>>14076970
I'd personally settle for sophisticated Alternative style too.
>>14076227
I think I had one run with Miho as rifle/missile user, it actually works.
>>14077093
Her Rifle ranks up faster than anything else, she's a Rifle pilot. Thus she's deadweight for the purposes of minmaxing, in the end I just use her as another launcher.
>>14076812
If it means revitalizing the franchise, bring it over to the Anglosphere the way Tsuchida wanted it.
>>14077093
>>14077292
She does?I thought all pilots start with the weapon/mechs they specialise in? Kyokei is clearly made for both burst and melee weapons.
>>14077878
Nope, pilots have their own weapon preferences reflected in how quick they can rank up in a weapon. True that most are equipped with their preferred weapons, but Miho seems to be an odd case.
>>14077892
>http://www.gamefaqs.com/ps/250588-front-mission-3/faqs/22149
Well ,you're right. And Ryo seems to be able to get best damage out of flamethrowers too. I should have trained him up in that right from the beginning.
>>14077895
Old Square tactics games have a surprising amount of mechanical depth to them, like Tactics Ogre and FFT
>>14058733
OH man the best was stacking Pilot Eject with shield bash 3 or flame-thrower. Absolutely fucking unethical, that or Pilot Eject with Pilot target, sometimes i felt kindah bad for those poor bastards reduced to a 9mm and then eating 30mm slugs to the face.
>>14078076
Tactics Ogre wasn't even made by Square, and FFT had pretty much the save dev team with Square's name stamped on the box when it was finished. It would be folly to try to claim the "mechanical depth" has anything to do with Square.
>>14078076
FM3 has no tactical depth, just stick everyone with machineguns/shotguns, teach them all ROFUP1 as many times as possible, proceed to win the game.
>>14078134
Do Emma's route, buy grenades for everyone ASAP, assplode your own team to get to B Rank fast, win.
>>14078103
Eject punch doesn't really synergise well with Pilotkill. When EjectPunch works, you just need a mate nearby to board the enemy mech and the enemy pilot is too damn stupid to steal your other mech in return. After that you don't need PilotKill.
Even Pilotkill 3 still requires at least 2 hits to kill the pilot,so it's really underpowered compared to EjectPunch(which takes up only 1 computer slot).
Alternatively you can try to combo 6x of PilotKill1, but that would require even more luck to work better than EjectPunch.
>tfw you'll never get to use Minotaur Arms 2: even more bullshit without hacking the game
Pretty sure FM5 didn't have any way to easily beak the game, shame it made launchers even more pointless thanks to being incompactible with the link system.
>>14078161
It was more so a combo of Eject punch and Shield bash.
>>14078161
>the enemy pilot is too damn stupid to steal your other mech in return
this never happened to me. in fact i once abandoned kazukis mech for a generic shitty JSDF one for some reason, next turn i'm getting wrecked by my own wanzer
>>14075687
I personally think so.
>>14075715
I thought you could get the Qibing 0 in that email chain online shop?
>>14078161
Personally, I prefer Eject Punch.
Gets the pilot out of the Wanzer, and if it's something I can afford to shoot down, that's one less enemy to deal with, or at least, I can attack a helpless Wanzer and deal with the pilot later.
What is everyone's favourite Fm for me it was 3 I loved the ability to steal enemy mechs and I really enjoy the pixelated low poly look of the ps1
>>14081033
I think 3 wins probably based on nostalgia. But 5 is pretty awesome as well. Not a huge fan of 4.
>>14081033
>>14081046
Yeah, 3 is my favorite too. First game I spent more than 100 hours on, I think.
>>14078134
FM in general has problems with tactical depth, it's the usual Japanese deal where you can resort to grinding to win any battle (it's not as bad as Nippon Ichi "tactical" battles but still)
>>14081090
FM5 did it fine, the placement of your units actually mattered there.
>>14081128
Well, I thought all this pilot personality and friendly fire stuff would be important too, but somehow i ended up just linking everything and not caring at all cause, you know, repair backpacks fix all the collateral damage.
Placement matters but your upgrades/remodels matter so much more it feels just trivial.
>>14078849
You can't buy the Imaginary Number wanzers anywhere, and the Qibing 0 is a lot better than the Shunwang 1 as an Assault.
>>14081033
3 is my favorite and my second most played PS1 game after FFT.
I think 4 suffered from splitting your attention between 2 different parties too much. And they were still working out the kinks with the links system.
5 was great and had the best battle system.
>>14081836
MINOTAUR ARMS, FM4 took a while to let you play with nice toys on both sides but once it did it was fine. 5 had me do janky shit like make custom gunner wanzers out of a Eidos torso, Kyoyun arms and Frost legs because the basic gunner wanzers they had in stock couldn't handle the weight of a good rifle, took me until endgame once I got my Grille Sechs H+Grapple FS2 legs on it till I had a non frankensteined gunner wanzer.
>>14081836
is it me or where the mechs in fm3 the ugliest in the series I really prefer the wanzer designs of fm 2 and alternative.
>>14081161
Meh. Only Qibing's Arm skill is any gud.
>>14082291
I like it. Looks like a Battletech mech except it still has pointless hands.
>>14082291
Reminded me of the trusty Bushwacker
>http://www.sarna.net/wiki/Bushwacker
>>14082291
FM3 mostly only had shitty chink wanzers to choose from
superior German engineering coming through
>>14082535
Grille Sechs was pretty nice in 4 and the H variant was a joy to use in 5 once you replaced the legs with something that has 8~10 mov.
>>14082465
FM is basically western mechs but with arms and anime head cameras
>>14082558
>FM
>western design sensibilities
Pffft.
>>14082465
Lots of Battletech designs have pointless hands, though. Some are even more pointless than normal since their fingers don't extend past the barrels of their arm-mounted weapons.
>>14082460
Its mostly the stats that make me like the Qibing, its like a Zenith RV
>>14082564
>western design
>sensibility
sticking legs and weapons on a trash can isnt sensible
>>14078203
>next turn i'm getting wrecked by my own wanzer
Not him but that literally never once happened to me in my Emma run. My common strategy if I caused an ejection was to jump right in theirs, knowing the enemy pilot would just run around like a retard now.
>>14075715
The Qibing is dumb though
>>14082574
That can be bullshitted/handwaved as "otherwise useless hands are there just to help salvage teams take stuff back to HQ after a fight."
>>14089592
But it has a Hygogg body.
>>14089592
Get out.
>>14089870
Some people don't like great wanzers
>>14089910
I bet he also dislikes the Grapple.
>>14089870
>that image
Good taste anon
>>14082535
Wulong had some pretty sexy machines, I must admit.
>>14081033
>
I like 5 the most but the battles felt like they really dragged out
>>14089910
Wasn't Qubing this ridiculous patriarchal thing with massive bulge?
>>14089962
Maybe it gave that impression because it had reversed kneecaps.
>>14089957
I liked that, even if later on I basically deleted stuff with the power of teamwork.
>>14090201
What?
right I can't afford one of those Front mission 2 model kits but I want to make something similar any suggestions? I was thinking maybe assault suit leynos or Valken
oh just found frame arms
>>14090208
Long fights are nice.
>>14090253
Reminds me of a Uisk, wish Uisk were more viable in 3/4/5.
>>14090253
it really looks like a Uisk
which FM has the best plot?
>>14092578
1 or 2.
>>14090570
>>14090253
Why the weird head?
>>14059585
Here's what he told me by e-mail:
>>Thank you for your interest in the Front Mission series and in our project. We regret to inform you that our project manager as well as the other founders left the project some time ago. We are in the process of shutting down the project as per our founders' instructions, hence why the video page has been taken down. We are looking at options to host the patches, videos, and articles somewhere online for archiving purposes. Should the founders return to do any future work, then we will let the fans know if that time arrives (Pineda, Angelo. "Re: Your Status." Message to Angel Esguerra IV. 1 Jan. 2016. E-Mail).
And here's what he told me on why the project was abandoned:
>>The decision to abandon the project is up to the founders to discuss, if they wish to make it public. All we can say is that interest in Front Mission is virtually dead given the official end of the franchise (the rumour of a new FM is still a rumour and even then, no one from the FM development team remains at Square Enix) and that the founders never planned to go beyond FM5 initially. We can say that they at least wanted the five main numbered FM games to be accessible in English and we have done that. This would be a different story if we were getting paid, but we are not.
>>The site, the blog, and everything else related to the project will be shut down, including this email. Hence the note we are looking at online options to put our content on for archiving purposes (Pineda, Angelo. "Re: Your Status." Message to Angel Esguerra IV. 2 Jan. 2016. E-Mail).
If you are interested in finishing where they started, by way of translating all light novels and manga, as well as finding copies of the FM1 and FM Gun Hazard movies, good luck.
>>14092880
by movie you mean these live action adverts right?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfWzonnY1cI&list=LL3rI2zlIbB_Km1uZ2JCAiaA&index=150
>>14092945
Not really. That was a scene from the Gun Hazard movie used for Gun Hazard game commercials. Same with the FM1 movie using scenes from it used to promote the video game, IIRC.
>>14092997
wait a minute you are telling me there is a FULL MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>14093021
There was. Can't access any more information. I'll see if I can contact Angelo if he's managed to preserve everything so far.
>>14093021
I wonder if it fell into the same void hole that the Xevious movie vanished into
At it's core I don't think Front Mission Evolved was the worst idea in the world and I think there is a place for action focused Front Mission games. Sure, evolved turned out bad and its failure was one of the final nails in the Front Mission coffin. This wasn't unexpected considering the team they hired to make it, so plenty of people predicted this long ahead of release. However; I think too many people bang on the it's bad because it's not turn based strategy drum. Gun hazard wasn't a strategy and that game turned out great and in that way I think the idea of a 3D Front Mission action game also has the potential to be fun as well.
Found a cool fan sitehttps://sites.google.com/site/fmzaftra/home
Is Front Mission 3 a good introduction to Mecha if I want a more grounded/realistic mecha story?
>>14093632
it's a great game and kinda grounded, but the story is not great.
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