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>>14052901


If you need help with any game try checking Akurasu for help:
http://akurasu.net/wiki/Super_Robot_Wars

Current status of the games availability in the English language as of the end of August 2014:
http://pastebin.com/Y1ND2asB

Detailed Version of Game Availability in English as of Late August 2015:
http://pastebin.com/crZFqXVk

Music Pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/sBUG6USX

Bring Stabity's Quick Guide to Katakana:
http://pastebin.com/x6FmxFGk

Game Modification Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/BpnabbiH

Translated Plot Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/mXTM5K5z

Art Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/FpW9zx0P

SRC Pastebin:
http://pastebin.com/NcDjhZjG

Make your own SRW character Pastebin
http://pastebin.com/DBj6Nknk

If you wish to help with the SRW fan game they are always in need of more musicians and artists
Please contact the following e-mail: [email protected]
You may also reach them in IRC at #SRWEternity on Rizon.

You can also visit their website at: http://srw.eternitychan.org/

Moon Dwellers Preview PV English Sub:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6AJdzboXmso

Moon Dwellers PV1 English Sub:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4-PL1dQWeU
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65% wrorg.
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>>14057538
>that blatant cut line where UX's cut-in ends in his hair
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you know, I've been sitting on the PSP Linebarrel game for years, I remember running away from it after seeing the first stage and its atrocious layout and animations.

Tell me /srwg/, am I missing much?
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>>14057538
SRW series list generator you stupid nigger faggot
https://shindanmaker.com/610381
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>>14057538
reminder
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voiced srw when
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WHAT DOES IT MEAN
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>>14057596
>People literally thought this foreshadowed Crowe
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>SEA english translation
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>>14057596
Is that female Cobray?
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>>14057599
something something years of semen something glop
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>>14057596
>show sperm wyrms
>not give us said sperm wyrms
For what purpose
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>>14057602
No it's Shiro and Kuro 100% confirmed for sure because there are two of them and one is black and one is white which we know for sure even though the fucking picture is black and white to begin with
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>>14057605
So we can get them in OG later.
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>>14057598
Don't underestimate the power of Debt.
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>>14057608

>Pisces sphereholder shows up in OG for literally five seconds away from everyone else in order to job to Asakim

I'd take it
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So are the Ruina coming back? Pic related.
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So, who gets to be stuck with Touya on an island this time?
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>>14057628
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>>14057578
>PSP Linebarrel game

This is a thing?
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>>14057634
Glorified dating sim.
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>>14057580
You can insult me all you want anon bu I'm not in charge of that pastebin, TE is.

Good luck getting them to update that for us.
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>>14057623
Yes as Ruina Remnants alongside Dark Brain's minions and fifteen Duminas clones also Cobray and Ingram are tTime Divers and Valzacard is powered but all sides off Solomon's Triangle
Source: my fanon which you can read about on my tvtropes page
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>>14057637
So I'm not losing much, I had a sneaking suspicion it was going to be shit.
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>>14057647
It does have 3D maps though.
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>>14057649
Very funny anon. I'd chuckle if my lungs weren't so out of shape right now.
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>>14057654
Get well soon, buddy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOdkxebJQkA

RASTER EDGE
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>>14057658
I try.
Damn pollen fucked me up bad, these are the time I really wish I was a robot.
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>>14057659
I'll give you an unpleasant bliss.
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ZAGI AND VILE
FRIENDS FOR EVIL REASONS

Surprised they don't let you attach Estelle to a pair when you snap her out of her mind control.
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>yfw they put gacha into regular SRWs
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>>14057708

So, they're friends FOR NO GOOD REASON?
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>>14057725
Good one.
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It's Gaia Sabers. They call themselves the new sword to protect earth.
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>>14057606
Except one of the cats is male you nitwit.
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>>14057586
Reminder of what? Is the Moon Dwellers English release going to be like that? Backstroke of The West style?
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>>14057596
I'm still pissed this went fucking nowhere.
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>>14057793
Reminder of a shitty meme
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>>14057793
Check your privilege, cis scum
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>>14057795
I always thought the Asakim thing was just Terada and Midorikawa messing around and having a laugh.
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>>14057804
I could have accepted that if he only showed up for one game, not five of them.
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>>14057795
Z series in a nutshell
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>>14057596
It means the factors have gathered.
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>>14057793
>Backstroke of The West style?
Son, here at /m/ we have a name for that.

And to answer your question, probably not. It's just a meme that some guy has been trying to force.
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>>14057809
Asakim living that long is a because of Midorikawa.
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>>14057809
Yes because Asakim inexplicably vanishing for the rest of the series wouldn't have led to any backlash whatsoever.
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>>14057820
Would've been better than what they did with him in Z3
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>>14057816
I think it's funny. You guys are just too damn sensitive and possibly a bit too far I'll your own asses. Case and point, being so butthurt over 31
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>>14057828
Please don't bring up 31.
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>>14057828
Who the hell is getting butthurt over the singlish thing? I just find the guy posting the same images every thread boring and repetitive, it's not something worth getting mad at.

And really, if the translation actually does turn out to be terrible, I could just play the japanese version. Being multilingual is a wonderful thing.
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>>14057828
Shit gets old when it's clearly one guy spamming something that was never even funny in the first place. Case in point, 31.
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>>14057823
And what did Z3 do to him that was so bad?
Gave him a new toy?
Made him as antagonist again?
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>>14057841
31 was clearly at the least three people.
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>>14057828
The Singlish thing was funny at the beginning.

Now it's just spam.
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>>14057843
If I'm not wrong, he joins for 1 stage and it isn't even the last stage, wasn't it? And for the lamest reason too

So basically pulling an OG Gaiden Shu
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>>14057848
Pot
Kettle
Black.
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>>14057848
>cuntjuices calling anything spam
iron E
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>>14057850
He's a guest ally at least twice: in the stage where you get Suzune back, and the Diebuster finale. He doesn't stick around for any intermissions but at least unlike Fagvent he doesn't glue himself to the MC.
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>>14057850
Wasn't he just showing off Shurouga Sin with the added feature of beating up Excelio and the Space Terrible Monster Crowd?
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>>14057848
>Now it's just spam.

Damn, that's rich coming from you old man.
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>>14057843
They tied him in with the retardation that was the whole Angel plot
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>>14057850
Wow, Asakum is a double-crossing cock.
Who would have think it!
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>>14057843
They revealed the mystery of who Asakim is and that he simply just doesn't exist. A figment of the Shurouga's imagination if you will.

Asakim is just a projection/image of the Shurouga's old pilot as the machine seems to remember it however most of the data is corrupted so the avatar came out kinda wrong.

tldr; Asakim IS Shurouga.
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>>14057840
We'll just have to wait and see with the translation.

Even if it's translated bad, I'll still play it since I cam at least understand it.
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>>14057840
I can perfectly understand extremely broken English anyway.
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>>14057860
The plot that he was tied to in the beginning.
Angels had been mentioned as far back as Z.
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>>14057851
>>14057853
>>14057856
Well, if it isn't my loyal followers from the VF-Boys Brigade.

Get on your bicycles and let's go fight shit posting together, chums.
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>advent eats up asakim and earns his immortality
>but asakim wants to die really badly so this somehow cancels out advent's other 3 immortalities (4 including his own) and then he gets to die because
bideogaem lojic
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>>14057866
Being mentioned in a good game doesn't make everything about them in Z3 not shit.
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>>14057816
Oh I see, thank you for not yelling memes.
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>>14057868
I don't have the health to do that old man.

Did you get the Romancing SaGa 2 remaster by the way? It's on promotion at 1800 Yen until the end of April on the Vita, if you're interested you better get it.
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>>14057880
>Romancing SaGa 2 remaster
I don't own a Vita and I don't think I'll be getting one anytime soon.

You may enjoy it in my stead. As you play, know that my invisible hand is at your side.
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>>14057874
And? The shitty writing doesn't change the fact that it was Z that involved him in that plot line and not Z3, which contradicts your argument
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>>14057828
I don't care if you think it's fucking funny and really most are indifferent to it because anyone can pretend to be a retard.

What we don't fucking need is recycled one image posts every damn thread ad infinitum with absolutely nothing to say, it just pushes up the thread count killing it faster.

That goes the same for that piece of shit lewdposter, if we want to see any of those old pics we can literally just click that old thread link at the top of the page and check the archive ourself or the multiple booru's.

Recycled shitposting is brand new level of utterly stupid.
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>>14057892
>d-don't post images in the imageboard!!
hello gamefaqs

by gamefaqs I mean reddit by the way
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>>14057868
Can't. Too busy marathoning anti-drug episodes from 80s and 90s after school and Saturday morning programming.
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>>14057900
While drunk/high?
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>>14057891
And Z3 wasted any potential that had for being good, what's your point?
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>>14057886
Well, you can still buy it for your smartphone since it has an android port, or emulate via bluestacks, or play it on an IPhone, whatever.

Mind that it's a remaster that uses the old Mobile version as base so the sfx are a bit different from the SFC original version and some of the sprites are worse that the SFC original, luckily the music is high quality for some reason though, unlike the old Mobile music.
So far it's a pretty decent remaster with much needed bugfixes and some neat extras for new players, if you can do grab it.
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>>14057862
How did he make Setsuko impure if he doesn't exits?
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>>14057892
>posting images is now shitposting

This is some next level retardation
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>>14057899
>d-don't post images in the imageboard!!
People now post shit like >>14050682
>>14050669
and report 150 mech threads for "spamming"

Apparently /m/ no longer values imageboards for images, and instead values anonymous discussion. Or shit posting.
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>>14057906
It only means that Setsuko's purity didn't exist in the first place.
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>>14057903
My point is that you have no argument?
You argued that Z3 attached him to a certain plotthread.
I argued that Z was the one to attach him to that thread.
You are now arguing that it was a shitty plot thread, which has nothing to do with the argument at hand.
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>>14057904
I've got an iphone (jailbreak), so do I have to swap my store to Japanese somehow so I can buy it or what?
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>>14057915
I'm saying that Z3 attached him to a SHITTY plot thread, dumbfuck. Before that it was just a mystery plot thread. Kill yourself.
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Which Original would you Generation?
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>>14057906
Is there a translation of that scene?
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>>14057922
You.

Get over here, love muffin.
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>>14057919
It is still the same fucking plot thread, you blithering retard.
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>>14057931
Go sit on a horsecock
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Oh god, Daitarn's attack animation are silly
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>>14057904
>bluestacks
Is there a place to get the APK for free?
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>>14057944
Just call me Farmer Brown cause I'm about to plow your ass.
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>>14057964
http://vocaroo.com/i/s1fziTxEkqwC
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>>14057924
Think the Z1's LP got to that point
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All this Z3 talk is just reminding me of all the things i hated about it.

I mean, i certainly enjoyed the game, but there was just so much disappointment in how a lot of things were handled.

>You wanted that unit? Here, you can have it as an attack.
>Those asakim visions? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. We won't even let him join you.
>Portaits are cheaper.
>Gadlight is back and he's on your side! Just kidding, we'll kill him right here for you.
>We already blew our load for wing on Z2. Here are some animations that just barely look like we put work in it.
>We promise we'll have full on OG plot for Z3.2. Infact, you'll be fighting them for almost every other, if not every mission. Enjoy your recolored mooks.

WHY.
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>>14057992
Kind of a shame her standard rifle attack isn't teleport and shoot from both sides anymore.
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>>14058038
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>>14058038
I had zero luck with the Valks in the Alpha series, they kept on getting shot down left and right no matter what I did. Almost as bad as my luck with Seolla in OG, but at least that can partially be attributed to her being a meh pilot. I have no idea how Max and Isamu kept on getting nailed by attacks with single digit hitrates.
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>>14058045
Probably should have pumped a few more items or upgrades to drop it down to 0% then
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>>14057977
it just makes me so sad
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@3 MCs currrent plot
Selena not started yet will be the MC of it
Touma and Kushua got replaced with a new plot
Cobray already finished just needs factors
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>>14058048
I gave up on trying to deploy the valks in @1 and @G before I had that much money to throw around.

They did better in @3 but still randomly got shat on hard.
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>>14057899
Posting images is great. Posting the same image in every single thread is just pointless and unfunny.
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>>14058038
Didn't it not even have Micro Missiles in B form until @3?
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>>14058056
They kinda suck in @G - Guld's machine is probably the only one usable by end-game and that's cutting it really close.

It really doesn't take that much money to make them useful in @1 though... that being said, @1 enemies are honestly pretty pathetic overall - they must be like the least aggressive SRW AI ever, usually moving towards your units without even attacking.
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>>14058070
need to check
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>>14058094
You'd think they could at least manage to dodge as well as Garrod, but Garrod was fucking untouchable despite minimal upgrades for most of the game, while the RNG took a big steaming dump on the entire Macross cast every time I tried to use them, or was forced to use them.
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>>14057804

Honestly it seemed just because for the first time in years Midorikawa wasn't going to have a regular role in that game and they didn't want to leave him out.

So they invented Asakim.

He was entirely pointless in the following games because Heero was back, but I guess they felt they had to do something with him.
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>>14058102
At least they gave Heero a "Target Lockon" quote for Asakim.
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>>14058098
well, the X and the DX are reasonably tanky seeing as they're Gundams, so Garrod can safely take one or two hits to trigger Guts and be forever untouchable

Isamu has guts too but the VF-19 isn't exactly getting into red health from anything besides vulcans. You may as well throw him in the Armored Valkyrie or something if you want to abuse his guts
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>>14057850

Yeah. Also they actually have him sort of make up with everyone in the end, but he gets nommed by Advent two seconds later because the game adamantly refuses to give you any originals permanently other than the 4 sphere's and the ship.

Kind of like how Gadlight miraculously survives only to die two stages later because fuck you MCs only.
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>>14058112
>so Garrod can safely take one or two hits to trigger Guts and be forever untouchable
That's the thing, he never even took a hit
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>>14057931

Not him but the point is that Z3's revelations of everything they'd been hinting at was a massive massive letdown.

Yes it was a legit way to resolve that, but it also fucking blew ass.
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>>14058117
Did you ever go into the save editor and see how much stat exp he had on his Evasion? If you took X routes a lot you ended up using Garrod frequently, so all the evading he'd do early on would make him better at it.
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>>14058102
It was more the culmination of multiple circumstances.

There was also that one story about Midorikawa wanting Demonbane in a SRW (long before UX) and constantly bugging the staff about it. It's also known Midorikawa does enjoy playing chuu2 characters like Master Therion. Shurouga itself was a old discarded concept that had been lying around since the Granzon/Cybuster days of the series so they just all sort of melded together into a stage for Midorikawa to just be silly.
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>>14058122
Doesn't @G only do the stat EXP thing for Melee and Range?
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>>14058124
Nope. All six stats. @1 was just Melee and Shooting.
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>>14058112
Man, DX is such a beast once you get Tiffa and G-Bits.

So good.
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>>14058130
I could've sworn it was the other way around, oh well.
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>>14058133
I've looked in the save editor for both games. In addition, the stat cap in @1 is in the 600s, but in @G your Melee and Shooting pretty much can't get past about 260-270 unless you have a way to directly-modify the values otherwise. At least there's a code that changes the amount you get per weapon upgrade block.
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DGG final special when
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>>14058137
>At least there's a code that changes the amount you get per weapon upgrade block.
Seriously?
That'd be fucking great for units stuck in the +900 tier

Like Hi fucking Nu
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyA6okMIC-c

Why is G Compatible Kaiser the best Banpresto Super Robot?
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>what's going on in the thread toda
>oh

>>14057948
They fixed them in Alpha Gaiden.

Then Impact did a funny thing where your Daitarn had Alpha Gaiden animations, but the enemy MP Daitarns had Alpha 1's.

>>14058137
>At least there's a code that changes the amount you get per weapon upgrade block.

That's actually fucking amazing, considering in AG it starts at +800 as the lowest and I think fucking Neo could do better than that.
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I'm still pissed about 1 P.
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>>14058269
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>>14058269
Man, we all warned you about that. I know you don't like to listen to us after the whole mess with Ingram, but we fucking warned you about Brad and his 1P.
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>>14058269
Don't fucking pick Male Super in 64.

Like, we warned you about that shit, but you didn't listen.

You know what's worse though? In 64, you get like 4 more attacks as you level for your MCs. Three of those are 1P, the fourth is a MAP with basically no range.
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>>14058269
You brought that on yourself.
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>>14058269
Go back to Compact 3 until you get Sirbine, I think it's around stage 20.

Mad doesn't even begin to describe the wild ride that is Sirbine a mech so singleminded that its attacks are literally Sword, Sworder and Swordest
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>>14058204
>>14058248
You guys want it?

D00F1B64 000A
800F1B64 000F
D00B4D70 0012
800B4D5C 000F
D00B4D70 0012
800B4D68 000F
D00B4D70 0012
800B4D98 0032
D00B4D70 0012
800B4D9A 2403

This not only sets it to 500 points per block, but gives you 15 upgrades. Yes, it goes outside the normal visual thing, but as far as I know it doesn't cause the game to shit itself. So if you don't want things to get too crazy you can limit yourself.
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>>14058269
Not our fault you picked the worst OG in SRW history.

You should have gone with Elegance, but noooooo.
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>>14058269
You literally had a 75% chance of not picking a shit MC mech, it's your own damn fault.
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>>14058292
>Elegance

Space Woman.
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>>14058288
I still brought it to the end because it was like the strongest Dunbine unit for most of the game. At least until when Marvel gets Aura Warrior Lv3 and they can pull off Twin Aura Attack.

>>14058286
Its a rather flexible MAP since like VMAX it doubles as movement.
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>>14058288
>its attacks are literally Sword, Sworder and Swordest
At least Sword and Sworder finally got some range in BX.
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>>14058303
And all the Swordest combo attacks got some decent range too.
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Am I the only one who picked Arklight?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXvwo8v6V5o
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>>14058298
Fuck yeah space woman. Coolest mech and best music. Also best rival.
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Could someone explain the MC's backgrounds to me?
More specifically Elegance and Space Woman since you all seem to love them so much.
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>>14058310
Ark's alright, he's pretty much the standard Real hero.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBXLpCx48rU&t=32

>1 range

HAHA OH WOW, HORY SHIT
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>Tiny Guns
>Sword
>Gun
>Bigger Gun
>Even Bigger Gun
>Many Tiny Guns
>All the Guns

which mech am I talking about /srwg/
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How would you fix it?
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>>14058298
Her, right? She seems to be the most forgotten of the 64 OGs, who aren't the most memorable of characters to begin with.
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>>14058315
>Male Super
A guy who trained in robot kungfu. Worst OG by far.

>Female Super
A rich girl who made her own mech and funded the anti Muge effort. Strongest OG in the long run due to two pilots and decent ranges.

>Real Male
Suffering the character. Second strongest of the 4 OGs post upgrade due to broken map and no will reqs on anything.

>Real Female
Army girl or something. I can't remember. Her mech's good but Ark and Manami shit all over her gameplay wise.
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>>14058300
>Its a rather flexible MAP since like VMAX it doubles as movement.

That's true, but it can't be used for counters.

>>14058288
>a mech so singleminded that its attacks are literally Sword, Sworder and Swordest

You know what the worst part is?

It has those claw things on its arm like Bilbine, but because it never actually uses them in the OVA because its pilot is a fucking idiot, they never get in SRW. Also, THIS IS A THING:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11ug7Jp3y3I

IT COULD BE USED AT ANY TIME.
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>>14058327
For starters, don't split Z2 and Z3 into two games where almost nothing of substance related to the OG plot happens in the first half.
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>>14058327
Remove Gargantia
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>>14058327
Merge them back into one game and pace it and its prequel better.
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>>14058319
There's a pretty nicely made so far SRC scenario that uses 64 as one of the SRW series playing a part among other licensed series (those being 2, C3 and R), and Ark's the chosen 64 main to head the story and essentially be the MC.

A lot of things fun with that scenario, honestly, though on the 64 side of things the only things I can really note is that after Ark upgrades, the rival character upgrades into the A mech related to their line of robots. Also one of the 64 villains is the one to off Duminass before she forces Despinis to be absorbed.
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>>14058330
Because outside of her theme, she's kind of just there.

Brad has the no range meme, Minami's filthy rich and brings a second waifu with her and Ark's story involves suffering.
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>>14058345
>Splash Breaker got its range dropped to 1-3
Does it still keep the IFF feature?
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>>14058333
>Army girl or something. I can't remember.
She's a sort of proto-Selena, really. Starts off as a guerilla fighting against the Muge forces, then ends up on a revenge trip after her squad gets killed.
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>>14058348
I'd have to re-check and piece some moons together, what's IFF? No Friendly Fire or something?
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>>14058327
Stop fucking dragging every single plot completed series to the finish.
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>>14058357
Yeah. Ignore Friendly Fire.
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>>14058362
Yeah, I think it still keeps that aspect there.

Here's the last 64 original in SRC form to round things out.
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>>14058346
>she's kind of just there
And poor Rathgrith is the only 64 original that had literally every single one of its gimmicks stolen by its A counterpart (or its upgrade, rather), and then added a few more.

Like a better MAP and a better design and theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXWhvaXpolQ
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>>14058038
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>>14058441
Note that his Gerwalk actually works on Earth. It's still inferior to Fighter on Earth because Flying is a free Focus in Alpha 1, but still.
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>>14058441
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>new Dragonar release, with more possibly coming until Gunlord is busy IRL again
Still hasn't gotten past NETHERLANDS yet, but at least this might help the GC translation crew (and by proxy the one for MX).
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Calvina x Selena Al-Van can suck Touya's cock
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>>14058543
Good thing the endgame is in space.
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>>14058557
Good thing that Gunbuster kicks ass.
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>>14058557
B Air isn't that bad, it's actually 15% dodgier than A Ground. Now, all those BBCA attacks are more of a problem, but Gunbuster still hits like... like Gunbuster.
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>>14058567
Is B Air better than B Ground if there's defensive terrain involved?
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>>14058564
It always does.
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>>14058581
If they need to dodge, not unless it's 20% terrain or better. If they don't need to dodge, then probably yeah.
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>>14058623
EMPEROR ZUUL
IS
JUSTICE
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>>14058623
This is a really clusterfucky sprite right there.
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>>14058632
I'm glad they redid a lot of sprites for @G. Some of the stuff in @1 looked a bit dinky.

>>14058623
Let me guess: pointblank Vulcan, pointblank Beam Trident, 1-2 or 1-3 Dragon Fang?
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>>14058634
Yeah, it's kinda messed up.

Like >>14058659 said, I'm happy they fixed the sprites in Gaiden.
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>>14058659
I just realized that @1 doesn't use just "Altron" to refer to the EW version. So that's actually the TV upgrade, meaning it probably has the beam cannon, right?
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>>14058695
Yeah and Dragon flame.
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Might show up OG some day.
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>>14058543
>this is bullshit, you can't ground Gunbuster
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>>14059203
ayy lmao
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>>14059274
So what's the power discrepancy between that and Gunbuster's strongest attacks?
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>>14059291
I dunno, I picked the Ra-Cailum route so I won't get Gunbuster for a while.
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>>14058327
Trim out Eva. It was clearly included because they thought 3.0 was going to be full of cool shit to use and then they were just as fucked over as the rest of us. That's three playable units given the boot plus one more in Tengoku.

Cut Dai-Guard (one unit), God Mars (two units), Trider (two units in Jigoku and two in Tengoku when Zambot and Daitarn get the boot). Geass is a maybe, cutting four units, but I'm inclined to keep it.

For fuck's sake don't include Macross 7 if you want the game to be anything other than absurdly piss easy. That's two units.

If Macross Frontier gets the boot that's another eight units out.

This still leaves us with well over sixty playable units. Let's use some of the space to put in Eureka Seven Ao so that we can at least say we did the whole franchise in one take and make up for the Angel battle maps with that story. Do whatever rewrites are necessary to make it good, make some use of the retcon gun regarding dimensional fuckery.

Slip Original Dancouga back in as well as King Gainer, the latter was a core fixture of Z1. Sol Gravion and God Sigma Gravion can reappear in Tengoku, but that's my personal favoritism at work.

OG story-wise, the only thing that really needs doing is to strip out all the stuff about the Angels and just focus on Advent. Advent on his own is interesting. He's a villain who makes you ridiculously happy all the time when you're around him, who himself is unable to be anything but happy even when he doesn't want to be. Doctrine and Tempti are fucking imbeciles and Sacrifi I think gets one scene in the whole game. Cut them, cut the words "beyond human comprehension" from everything, and you have a more focused antagonistic force that doesn't go into the absurdity of Space Godzilla allegedly being less comprehensible than the DAMONs in Z2, monsters that actually succeeded at being weird horrifying alien creatures.
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>>14058327
I wish I had time, but all those fucking changes I would make.
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Is Four in the Doven Wolf a good idea?
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>>14059408
>Geass is a maybe, cutting four units, but I'm inclined to keep it.

I'd personally keep by virtue that it grants you Zero. Considering the scope of the game, having multiple characters in a designated Tactician role (as opposed to characters who sorta just fall into that role by virtue that they are the smart character or they are the veteran character) goes a long way to the world.

>OG story-wise...

I agree somewhat completely. You're right about Advent; however, I wouldn't count the Angels out. I guess the problem with fixing the Angels is fixing them would require reworking Jigoku and a tad bit of Z2. Sacrifi plays a vital role as an Angel (or at least, she should, but Tengoku being Tengoku) due to being the only one particularly against the other Angels, as well as having been convicted by the Angels. This gives you two things to work with that help from a narrative stand point: she's a force against the force and there is the incentive to convince her to work with the players.
As a rough idea, Jigoku could have been about the fight against Vildark's gang with a direct revelation of the Angels at the end, as well as the revelation of Sacrifi. Cue Tengoku giving you the incentive to recruit Sacrifi, which would/could lead into the Angels, Shinka, and so-on.
The other two Angels are pretty inconsequential, though. You could probably just play Doctorine as the token character genuine in his faction's cause. But that's just a quick and rough idea on how an alternative solution could be presented through that.
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>>14059626
>This gives you two things to work with that help from a narrative stand point: she's a force against the force and there is the incentive to convince her to work with the players.
The slight problem with this is your guys hate Sacrifi, like REALLY hate her though I don't really remember why though just a bunch of characters in a few scenes getting hateboners for her. I think at that point in the game I was zoning out as the game just kinda died stillborn.

Also the whole everyone punches Ji Edel/AG bit was really overblown as hell, they weren't even the same entity as the one who caused the events of Z and helped you for the most part. It just made the characters/story seem, disjointed.

>You could probably just play Doctorine as the token character genuine in his faction's cause
That would've required the character to not have been a flaming idiot. Here you have some ancient all encompassing sentient supposedly higher being and intelligence incapable of even thinking that they'd be betrayed by one of their own who has been exiled for eons.

Stretching my disbelief a bit too much there.

@3 did such a better job of making the STMC this horrifying unstoppable natural disaster as the endgame. It is just awkward in Z3 when they end up as <insert evil space lord/s> generic pet attack dogs.
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>>14059694
>like REALLY hate her though I don't really remember why

It's been a while since I played and my moon is pretty bad, but wasn't it something like she acted like she cared about what would happen to humanity and stuff, but didn't REALLY care? Like it was more of a self-serving woe-is-me for the poor pitiful creatures that can't understand these things that were to occur?

>>14059694
>Ji Edel/AG bit was really overblown as hell,

Well, even if we discount those from back in Z1 that probably really wanted to punch his face in, AG was putting some mind-control on the entire force of good while he was being the little shopkeep everyone thought of him. That's a sour subject for some, I'm sure.

I can't remember if that reveal comes after the reveal of Advent being someone who ostensibly does the same thing, but that might be another aspect to it. The only Edel that wasn't a douche was apparently the one from Z2, thanks to not going totally bonkers in some way from the knowledge he got.
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>>14059408
>Sol Gravion and God Sigma Gravion can reappear in Tengoku, but that's my personal favoritism at work.

Not really, they flat out fucked up on this one, it's such bullshit
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>>14058511
>Al-Van can suck Touya's cock
Please. That'd be hot.

It can be a NTR doujin and do it while Jua-Mu is watching.
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魔装I一章→OG→OG2→OG外伝→ACER→第二次OG/OGDP→魔装I二章→魔装Ⅱ→魔装Ⅲ→魔装F→OGMD
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>>14058335
Isn't game material semi-canon/non-canon.

I would love if Gundam Wing used music from Endless Duel in SRW, but someone would have to explain how Tallgeese is making sword beam waves, and how Epyon is channeling the powers of time and space.
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>>14059762
Game material sometimes gets utilized, same as the unmade stuff like Final Dancouga and Great Zeorymer.

BX is actually a prime example of that, given that it uses different colored Zwarths that I believe were exclusive to the came, so Sirbine having the cannons would have been easily used, but unnecessary since they gave its attacks some range this time. BX also used Silverion Hammer from a GGG game, though left out the Goldion Magnum.
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>>14059761
>those bedroom eyes
why is Quess so lewd
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>>14059774
>BX also used Silverion Hammer from a GGG game, though left out the Goldion Magnum
Oh yeah, that's right. But isn't that GGG game a rare-case of actually being canon?

Oh well, it's not like I mind, I'd love to see more game material drawn in. I've always hoped that Macross or Mazinger would pull in enemies from the SHMUP games.
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>>14059408
Frontier actually had plot in Tengoku unlike the other series that you cut.

7 could go, but Frontier actually had a meaningful contribution. You'd get more out of it by adding Plus over 7 so Isamu's cameo is more than just a cameo.
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>>14059774
I remember someone pointing out that the Red Zwarth is actually in the show, but are very easy to miss since they only show up in a single scene in the background.
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>>14059709
Sacrifi was behind the Stigmata and the Time Prison in Jigoku, as she considered it a mercy that would protect those within from Sidereal. But she was annoyed that Z-Blue kept fighting against their fate. This and her tone pissed-off Z-Blue, but that doesn't mean much seeing as Z-Blue gets pissed at fucking everything for no fucking reason.
After they fight Asakim, Sacrifi changes her ways but is eaten by Advent.

> AG was putting some mind-control on the entire force of good

He did literally nothing wrong. He worked behind their backs to save their asses, and not only did it work, but half the rest of the cast have also worked behind their allies backs for their own good.
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>>14059694
>The slight problem with this is your guys hate Sacrifi

Well, they came to hate Sacrifi after she revealed all she did to them and how she continued to treat them. She gets character development later on, but woe is Tengoku.

>That would've required the character to not have been a flaming idiot

I figured that would have been implied.
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>>14059787
I dunno, She no scope'd Gyunei
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>>14057862
>Asakim is just a projection/image of the Shurouga's old pilot as the machine seems to remember it however most of the data is corrupted so the avatar came out kinda wrong.
So Asakim is a Zegapain character.
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>>14059804
Fair point. What about the white one, though? And on that regard, there's a blue Dunbine or Bilbine I've seen once before that's specifically for Todd, is that from side material like the game? Anyone know?

>>14059805
But mind control, man! You don't screw with a person's brain, it's the worst possible thing ever!

Not actually disputing your point here, just being facetious since I have no counterpoints thanks to lack of knowledge.

I still found Z3 fun enough despite all the things wrong with it, though.
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>>14059831
They had made quite a few of them for the Dunbine villains. Musee had her own custom one that she used for like a couple episodes.
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>>14059831
>blue Dunbine
It's Todd's.

Shou, Todd, and Todd's Pal all had Dunbines at the start of the show.
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>>14059492
Is anyone in Doven Wolf a good idea? Doesn't it basically have a single P attack? I remember it being pretty decent defensively, so maybe Sleggar or Burning since they have Guts?
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When using SRX, Do you lose expert points?
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>>14059895
No but it can only combine a total of 10 times.
Also keep in mind that the last stage consists of 3 sections where you have to recombine.
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>>14059922
What happens if you don't have enough times to recombine exactly?
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>>14059922
OH.

Then why the fuck don't I have the HWS parts for Nu?
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>>14059930
Life hates you or you didn't equip the frame parts
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>>14059930
You went through the required route splits, triggered all the correct flags and had the necessary points right?
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>>14059935
Shouldn't they be on right from the get go?
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>>14059948
I hope so.
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>>14059950
Ahahahahaha _no
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>>14059950
Early games aren't always the best, just check to see if the frame parts have them.

If it bothers you enough you can just stick them back on in the save editor.
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>>14057538
no cttgl because it sucks
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Do the SRWs fix Gundam Age's plot like they did with SEED Destiny?
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>>14059997
Didn't Kio man the fuck up in a Raijin-oh event?
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>>14059997
Well they let you spam Plasma Diver Missiles like there's no tomorrow, that's fixed enough for me.
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>>14059997
Not much so far, though you get to save every Vegan in Gen 3 that has a chance to be convinced from insanity/blind loyalty.
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>>14059927
You don't get the option to combine if you move the R-series next to each other. I don't know if they specifically make mention of it in-story or not.

Note that there's a stage where the SRX starts off combined. If you uncombine and recombine on this stage, that counts as a combination. HOWEVER, if you just uncombine and recombine on any stage that's not that one, it does not use up one of your uses. So on a normal stage, if you combine the SRX, decombine for whatever reason, and recombine, then that recombination doesn't count towards your ten combinations. But if you move to a different map (like on the final stage), that does count as a separate combination.

But there's not as much reason to uncombine the SRX once it gets going as there is in OG, so.

combine
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>>14060017
Not really, no.
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>>14058415
Didn't the Raven gear in OGs steal literally everything it had left to offer?
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>>14060210
Yes.

Flight? Check.
Shield? Check.
Anti-ship missiles? Check.
Focused Particle Cannon? Check.

Only thing it didn't quite steal is the Linear Gun, which the Randgrith has mounted on the shoulders (Linear Cannon, but it's really the same shit), while the Laz Raven has 2 (Twin Solid Cannon, which again, is the same shit), so it gets outshadowed twice as hard on that one.

The EF should just massproduce the motherfucking Laz Angriff Raven, fuck Lions, fuck Gespenst, fuck everything that's not a LAR
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>>14060218
What they should've done is made 10 Barrelions for the same cost as every 1 useless MP Huckebein and created the ultimate defense force for the Earth Sphere.
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>>14059709
>thanks to not going totally bonkers in some way from the knowledge he got
...wasn't his response to assholes like Cohen and Stinger to do things like kick in the door and start shooting them in the face with a pistol? While otherwise being this dinky old normal man?

Elgan was many things, but I wouldn't put 'not bonkers' at the top of the list.

That being said it's just weird how much time Ji Edel spends helping you after the first game.
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Why are the Steel Dragons allowed to exist? Aren't they too dangerous, being literally the strongest unit on earth?
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>>14060259
Fuck off Lee, you're supposed to be dead.
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>>14060259
fuck off Titans
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>>14060269
I did nothing wrong. In fact, Adamatron would've killed us all if not for me
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>>14060259
So what you're saying is that they should just restructure themselves into a brothel?

You're pretty smart, anon.
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>>14060284
Now this is a plan I can get behind
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>>14060284
>Rim will never whore herself exclusively for you

Why live?
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>>14060284
Does this mean we can have Sanger dressed up as a bunny girl whilst serving booze?
Because that sounds like a fantastic idea
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